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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on November 01, 2022, 08:59:54 PM
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1. Tennessee
2. Ohio St
3. Georgia
4. Clemson
5. Michigan
6. Alabama
7. TCU
8. Oregon
9. USC
10. LSU
11. Ole Miss
12. UCLA
13. Kansas St
14. Utah
15. Penn St
16. Illinois
17. North Carolina
18. Oklahoma St
19. Tulane
20. Syracuse
21. Wake Forest
22. N.C. State
23. Oregon St
24. Texas
25. UCF
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Oh yeah, let's just jump right into Christmas after Halloween, with the red and the green.
Thanksgiving doesn't exist, or anything. :111:
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If the playoff was today:
1 Tennessee vs 4 Clemson in the Peach Bowl
2 Ohio St vs 3 Georgia in the Fiesta Bowl
NCG in Sofi Stadium, Los Angeles
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Fictional 12-team playoff today:
Byes:
1 Tennessee
2 Ohio St
3 Clemson
4 TCU
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5 Georgia
6 Michigan
7 Alabama
8 Oregon
9 USC
10 LSU
11 Ole Miss
12 Tulane
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First Round:
Tulane @ Georgia............winner vs TCU
Ole Miss @ Michigan........winner vs Clemson
LSU @ Alabama..............winner vs Ohio St
USC @ Oregon...............winner vs Tennessee
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Clemson at 4 and Michigan at 5 is LOL.
Tennessee at #1 is questionable. OSU or Georgia should've been #1.
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I'm good with Tennessee at #1, but Georgia, OSU, and UM should round out the top 4. I'd put Clemson behind Alabama and TCU
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I'm good with Tennessee at #1, but Georgia, OSU, and UM should round out the top 4. I'd put Clemson behind Alabama and TCU
Exactly. I also understand Tennessee because since they play Georgia this week, that will work itself out. I’d put the Buckeyes at 1, but I understand the Tennessee argument. Clemson at 4 makes no sense at all.
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Oh yeah, let's just jump right into Christmas after Halloween, with the red and the green.
Thanksgiving doesn't exist, or anything. :111:
https://youtu.be/hLf0-lro8X8
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So we have to root for the Domers against Clemson?
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Exactly. I also understand Tennessee because since they play Georgia this week, that will work itself out. I’d put the Buckeyes at 1, but I understand the Tennessee argument. Clemson at 4 makes no sense at all.
And for all of the "if Michigan beats OSU it works itself out" people, yes. But if they don't. This ranking tells me that an 11-1 UM team with a loss to OSU is behind a 12-1 Clemson team with a loss in the ACC Championship. Which is ridiculous
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Ya clemson should be behind UM,Bama maybe even TCU
So we have to root for the Domers against Clemson Dabo?
FIFY even though marcus freeman is dead to me
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So we have to root for the Domers against Clemson?
unfortunately, yes. feels gross.
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Rooting against Dabo is as easy as it gets
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Tennessee will beat Georgia, but then blow a game against South Carolina, or some such.
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Beyond providing some insight as to what the PC weighs in ranking order, does any of this matter in the real world?
I think any team in the top ten has a shot at the CFP, some of them "control their own destiny". If Oregon goes 12-1, they likely are going to make it unless Clemson is 13-0, for example. One key is the lower ranked teams and whether they were defeated by those upper level teams. If say Wake Forest loses again and drops out, it damages Clemson.
Anyway, it's something to talk about, which is fine. That Bama-LSU game is looking important.
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I guess I'm surprised Alabama didn't make the top 4.
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They could well make it of course down the road, but there are too many unbeatens at the moment.
I don't think the committee has any bias for Bama beyond the obvious recent history (which probably is an influence).
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Beyond providing some insight as to what the PC weighs in ranking order, does any of this matter in the real world?
I think any team in the top ten has a shot at the CFP, some of them "control their own destiny". If Oregon goes 12-1, they likely are going to make it unless Clemson is 13-0, for example. One key is the lower ranked teams and whether they were defeated by those upper level teams. If say Wake Forest loses again and drops out, it damages Clemson.
Anyway, it's something to talk about, which is fine. That Bama-LSU game is looking important.
Listen sir! They put numbers next to teams and it’s supposed to make you cranky.
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Listen sir! They put numbers next to teams and it’s supposed to make you cranky.
Yeah, I saw some umbrage expressed on FB by "fans" I found a bit hilarious.
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Clemson?
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Tennessee has the record right now. ....and this is just the first week for crying out loud.
South Carolina will beat clemson and take them down to 7 or beyond before it shakes out.
The strength of schedule is what locks B1G up every year, but instead of fixing that yall want to fix the system? That's pretty entitled of yall.
TCU under bama is where I lose traction. Yeah, they have some opponents I've never even heard of before- but they're still undefeated and after a four game run that would stress anyone.
The B1G should become, collectively, LSU fans this weekend. Remove bama from the mix, hope USCe can scalp Clemson, and there is a good shot at two teams in the playoffs for yall. Otherwise, it's the winner of the last game only, and who will have the weakest SoS and SoR of the bunch.
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So we have to root for the Domers against Clemson?
We, especially tOSU fans like you and I do because it would REALLY help tOSU's SOS and eventual CFP admission/seeding arguments if Notre Dame was a quality win and Clemson was NOT undefeated.
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unfortunately, yes. feels gross.
Sure does and I agree that you Michigan fans should be rooting for the Domers as well. If the tOSU/M winner is 13-0 and the tOSU/M loser is 11-1, I think said loser has a shot but it is a MUCH better shot if Clemson loses and specifically if they lose to a team that tOSU defeated.
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And for all of the "if Michigan beats OSU it works itself out" people, yes. But if they don't. This ranking tells me that an 11-1 UM team with a loss to OSU is behind a 12-1 Clemson team with a loss in the ACC Championship. Which is ridiculous
I hope you are wrong but fear that you are right.
That said, if Michigan ends up being left out in a close call they can blame whoever us responsible for their OOC schedule.
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unfortunately, yes. feels gross.
I have to root for Brian Kelly now.
Yeah.
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The B1G should become, collectively, LSU fans this weekend.
Trolling is one thing, but trying to set up an entire board for disappointment is just mean.
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Tennessee has the record right now. ....and this is just the first week for crying out loud.
South Carolina will beat clemson and take them down to 7 or beyond before it shakes out.
The strength of schedule is what locks B1G up every year, but instead of fixing that yall want to fix the system? That's pretty entitled of yall.
TCU under bama is where I lose traction. Yeah, they have some opponents I've never even heard of before- but they're still undefeated and after a four game run that would stress anyone.
The B1G should become, collectively, LSU fans this weekend. Remove bama from the mix, hope USCe can scalp Clemson, and there is a good shot at two teams in the playoffs for yall. Otherwise, it's the winner of the last game only, and who will have the weakest SoS and SoR of the bunch.
Huh?
SoS of contenders per Sagrin:
- 16, Utah
- 18, Bama
- 24, LSU
- 26, TCU
- 27, Oregon
- 29, tOSU
- 32, USC
- 47, TN
- 50, UGA
- 53, Illinois
- 55, Ole Miss
- 59, UNC
- 60, UCLA
- 65, Clemson
- 69, M
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Exactly. I also understand Tennessee because since they play Georgia this week, that will work itself out. I’d put the Buckeyes at 1, but I understand the Tennessee argument. Clemson at 4 makes no sense at all.
I really didn't and still don't care about the order of the top-3 because with UGA/TN playing the winner will go to #1 and the loser drops regardless of the order before that game.
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did you go out of your freakin way to find an SoS chart to support your argument? meanwhile, i used the one the freakin committee used.... which was posted right there beside the team- including the SoR...
it's real simple- schedule somebody with a pulse, do it regularly, and these things don't happen.
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I really didn't and still don't care about the order of the top-3 because with UGA/TN playing the winner will go to #1 and the loser drops regardless of the order before that game.
and same for UM/tOSU... the only problem with that game is it's the only REAL game either of those teams face.
if UT makes it all the way, they'll have beaten two top ranked teams this year and will face another. same with UGA... same with Bama (though they've dropped one of those already).... and even with those games removed, all three have played a far more difficult schedule than either UM or tOSU... the same complaint y'all have against clemson is what the rest of the nation has against UM/tOSU.
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did you go out of your freakin way to find an SoS chart to support your argument? meanwhile, i used the one the freakin committee used.... which was posted right there beside the team- including the SoR...
it's real simple- schedule somebody with a pulse, do it regularly, and these things don't happen.
Who are you aiming this schedule complaint at?
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did you go out of your freakin way to find an SoS chart to support your argument? meanwhile, i used the one the freakin committee used.... which was posted right there beside the team- including the SoR..
Where? What SoS do you prefer?
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The one the committee used that was printed across the screen last night? I'm guessing that one holds more water with them... just a guess.
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Michigan should’ve played UCLA at home, gotten that W and they’re 8-0 and the SoS and SoR isn’t torching them.
I hope I never see OOC slate that bad ever again. My HOPE is that with the expanded playoff well actually get to see awesome OOC match ups going forward.
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Huh?
SoS of contenders per Sagrin:
- 16, Utah
- 18, Bama
- 24, LSU
- 26, TCU
- 27, Oregon
- 29, tOSU
- 32, USC
- 47, TN
- 50, UGA
- 53, Illinois
- 55, Ole Miss
- 59, UNC
- 60, UCLA
- 65, Clemson
- 69, M
That is laughable.
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The one the committee used that was printed across the screen last night? I'm guessing that one holds more water with them... just a guess.
Well, let's see it then.
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Tennessee doing what it is doing has to give hope to Nebraska, yes?
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I dislike any SoS I've ever seen. I'd just look for quality wins and forget wins over "Kent State" unless it was unimpressive.
I'd count Penn State as a quality win, not an elite one, but pretty good.
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Tennessee doing what it is doing has to give hope to Nebraska, yes?
Or any down program, really, but this is one year, and it ain't over yet.
Find the right coach, duh. Then hope to find a QB somewhere near Bueller, or whatever his name is.
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and same for UM/tOSU... the only problem with that game is it's the only REAL game either of those teams face.
I don't agree with your assessment of PSU. They aren't chopped liver. At the least they're a quality team. Michigan drumming them at home and Ohio State handling them on the road is a quality point on their resume, imo.
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it can change fairly quickly with the right coach and a little luck
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Tennessee doing what it is doing has to give hope to Nebraska, yes?
I would like to think so but I'm not sure. Tennessee has a lot better proximity to recruits. The State of Tennessee itself isn't exactly loaded with 5* but they have a lot better quantity and quality than the State of Nebraska.
Tenneasee's bigger advantage is that they border NC, GA, AL, and MS. Nebraska borders . . . Missouri.
My theory is that in the modern era proximity matters a lot because guys don't have to go to a helmet to play on TV.
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I don't agree with your assessment of PSU. They aren't chopped liver. At the least they're a quality team. Michigan drumming them at home and Ohio State handling them on the road is a quality point on their resume, imo.
PSU is about like a clanga or maybe UK... they're pretty good team... and for reference, UK is likely the third best team UT has beat. LSU is better than PSU by eye test, maybe not at first but now- and that was a road game for UT.
now- trash talk aside (which is something i've not been able to do for YEARS- and it's with great misfortune y'all get to witness it) , UM and tOSU are obviously contenders and should be.. the only four spots that matter are the four spots that have equal opportunity and those four spots won't matter until December. it's not y'alls fault their competition to this point sucks. and it doesn't matter, that competition, that they're still contenders by anyone's measure... it's simply the placement to apply leverage for trash.... so... stand by for trash.
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I would put Clemson behind Oregon and bump everyone else up, same order.