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Title: #4 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at Rutgers (4-5, 1-5) Postgame
Post by: Temp430 on October 31, 2022, 11:59:16 AM
The game is on the Big Ten Network at 7:30 PM EDT Saturday.  Michigan is favored by around 25 points.  Lots of stuff for Michigan to work on like the passing game and scoring TDs when in the red zone. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 31, 2022, 11:35:13 PM
https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1587097310399455233?s=20&t=14HZPyKRHbWvs9ohQFngeQ
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 31, 2022, 11:39:23 PM

Come on. 

56-0, or thereabouts. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 31, 2022, 11:40:15 PM
Come on.

56-0, or thereabouts.
it's a rivalry game, so throw the records out. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 01, 2022, 06:20:23 AM
https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1587097310399455233?s=20&t=14HZPyKRHbWvs9ohQFngeQ
That's way too many carries. Gonna burn the kid out.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 01, 2022, 08:16:37 AM
That's way too many carries. Gonna burn the kid out.
he's built like a brick shit house, but I agree. It's too much. Especially when you have a more than capable Donovan Edwards right behind him. 

My hope is they are able to give him a lot of rest the next two games vs Rutgers and Nebraska.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 01, 2022, 09:26:41 AM
they will be able
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on November 01, 2022, 09:46:35 AM
he's built like a brick shit house, but I agree. It's too much. Especially when you have a more than capable Donovan Edwards right behind him.

My hope is they are able to give him a lot of rest the next two games vs Rutgers and Nebraska.
He's a great back too. Use him, or risk Corum not at 100% for OSU.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 01, 2022, 10:21:21 AM
He's a great back too. Use him, or risk Corum not at 100% for OSU.
well, my hope is they can work on the vertical passing game and get McCarthy a lot more reps doing that and give Edwards majority of the carries and give Corum a rest these next two games before ramping it up in for the final stretch of Illinois at home and then on the road at Ohio State. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 02, 2022, 06:59:23 AM
Rutgers to start red shirt freshman QB Gavin Wimsatt.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2022/10/rutgers-gavin-wimsatt-will-start-at-qb-vs-michigan-greg-schiano-says.html (https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2022/10/rutgers-gavin-wimsatt-will-start-at-qb-vs-michigan-greg-schiano-says.html)
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2022, 08:36:19 AM
rivalry week! it's on! 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 03, 2022, 08:54:48 AM
the final stretch of Illinois at home and then on the road at Ohio State.
If they beat tOSU then the final stretch is most likely Illinois/tOSU/Illinois 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on November 03, 2022, 09:41:47 AM
Does Rutger have much of a shot here?  I mean 5%?  Probably not that high, unless UM turns the ball over 4-5 times, and even then ...

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 03, 2022, 10:01:23 AM
Does Rutger have much of a shot here?  I mean 5%?  Probably not that high, unless UM turns the ball over 4-5 times, and even then ...


I think Michigan wins this handily.  Rutgers has been switching between three mediocre QBs behind five new offensive linemen.  
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2022, 10:01:38 AM
Does Rutger have much of a shot here?  I mean 5%?  Probably not that high, unless UM turns the ball over 4-5 times, and even then ...
it's a rivalry game, so throw out the records. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2022, 10:31:08 AM
Mel Kiper debuts Michigan EDGE Mike Morris at #22 overall on his big board and a 1st rd pick in the upcoming NFL draft. I always kind of thought he reminded me of a more athletic Chris Wormley- who was a damn good player and a 2nd or 3rd rd pick I think.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 03, 2022, 10:35:40 AM
if you're OSU or MICH who do you root for this weekend?

Think you have to root for LSU to beat BAMA, give them a second loss and eliminate BAMA from playoff. Have to root for ND to knock off Clemson and eliminate them from contention, don't think Clemson gets in unless they're undefeated. And then Tennessee over Georgia. IF Tennessee beats Georgia, that really hurts Georgia's resume. Think there's an actual scenario if things fall into place that the B1G can get two teams in. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 04, 2022, 08:35:31 AM
Since September Michigan has only thrown one pass over 30 yards including YAC.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 04, 2022, 09:23:08 AM
Since September Michigan has only thrown one pass over 30 yards including YAC.
They haven't really attempted to open the passing game up down the field, nor have they actually needed to. They've been able to suffocate and bludgeon teams to death with their OL and run game and then use their front 7 on defense to smother.

Harbaugh wants to play the style of football that used to be popular back when George Washington was President. Dudes offensive philosophy is stone age. I'm convinced he's a retard when it comes to the passing game. It's honestly kinda weird af that a former high level QB hates the passing game. But that's Harbaugh in a nutshell: a fkn booger eating WEIRDO.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 04, 2022, 01:49:49 PM
if you're OSU or MICH who do you root for this weekend?

Think you have to root for LSU to beat BAMA, give them a second loss and eliminate BAMA from playoff. Have to root for ND to knock off Clemson and eliminate them from contention, don't think Clemson gets in unless they're undefeated. And then Tennessee over Georgia. IF Tennessee beats Georgia, that really hurts Georgia's resume. Think there's an actual scenario if things fall into place that the B1G can get two teams in.
I agree that this is not impossible although not all that likely either.

I think we have to understand that a 1-loss non-Champion SEC team is almost certainly getting in ahead of a 1-loss non-Champion B1G team so anything that eliminates potential 1-loss non-Champion SEC teams helps.

In theory the SEC could produce two one-loss non-Champions:

I actually don't think LSU/Bama matters much because Bama either wins the SECCG and is in or doesn't and is out.

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on November 04, 2022, 01:56:13 PM
it matters to LSU
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 04, 2022, 03:54:59 PM
it matters to LSU
Yeah, I meant to B1G teams. Realistically that is only the tOSU/M loser because:

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on November 04, 2022, 03:59:40 PM
A 2 loss LSU as SEC Champion would make the CFP I think.  That might well knock out a 11-1/12-1 SEC team, though I suppose it's possible the 12-1 CG loser might make it.  Is there precedent for that?

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on November 04, 2022, 04:27:10 PM
A 2 loss LSU as SEC Champion would make the CFP I think.  That might well knock out a 11-1/12-1 SEC team, though I suppose it's possible the 12-1 CG loser might make it.  Is there precedent for that?
Most direct precedent is 11-2 B1G Champion Penn State missing while 11-1 tOSU (that they beat H2H) went.

So let's say:
Who goes?

I think MoV would be a factor. Part of PSU's problem was that they got drilled by Michigan.

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on November 04, 2022, 04:37:57 PM
I think the most recent precedent is last year.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 04, 2022, 04:49:50 PM
I think the most recent precedent is last year.
what team with 2 loss has ever made a CFP? 

LSU with 2 losses- one in which they got DRILLED at home by Tennessee and another loss to pretty damn sorry FSU team ain't making the CFP, imo.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 05, 2022, 10:17:03 AM
https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1588654068167081984?s=20&t=Hs6iqgfsravxR11ltv14vw
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2022, 01:29:58 AM
JJ McCarthy on the season now....

1,615 passing yards, 71% completion, 12 TD's vs 2 INT's. Still has 3 regular season games to go.

Cade last year was 2,576 passing yards, 65% completion, 15 TD's vs 6 INT's - started in 14 games to accumulate these stats. JJ has nearly matched him in TD passes and he's started 6 less games.

Blake Corum is at 199 carries, 1189 rushing yards (6 YPC), and 16 TD's on the season now with 3 regular season games to go. Donovan Edwards is at 68 carries, 458 rushing yards (6.7 YPC), and 4 rushing TD's and 14 catches for 179 receiving yards, and 2 TD's on the season with 3 regular season games to go.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on November 06, 2022, 06:54:23 AM
I think its safe to say Michigan’s defense bailed the team out in this game.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on November 06, 2022, 06:58:23 AM
I think its safe to say Michigan’s defense bailed the team out in this game.
Here is what UM did:

they SMOKED a conference opponent on the road!   Period.  
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2022, 07:35:49 AM
JJ McCarthy on the season now....

1,615 passing yards, 71% completion, 12 TD's vs 2 INT's. Still has 3 regular season games to go.
13-27 last nite on the road,just sayin' >:(
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (8-0, 5-0) at Rutgers (4-4, 1-4) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2022, 07:39:46 AM
13-27 last nite on the road,just sayin' >:(
regardless, I think he's still played pretty well for a young first time starting QB. Comparing his raw #'s to Cade's a year ago...he's been better. He's also been better just going by the eye test. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at Rutgers (4-5, 1-5) Postgame
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2022, 07:45:57 AM
Michigan in the 2nd half of their last 4 games? 100-3. 

Indiana: 21-0 
Penn State: 25-3
Michigan State: 16-0 
Rutgers: 38-0
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at Rutgers (4-5, 1-5) Postgame
Post by: MrNubbz on November 06, 2022, 07:55:01 AM
regardless, I think he's still played pretty well for a young first time starting QB. Comparing his raw #'s to Cade's a year ago...he's been better. He's also been better just going by the eye test.
1st time,PFFFT! he rotated last season and has had the meat of the order this one.Sooner or later he might have to go deeper more often vs stiffer competition.....on the road ;D.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at Rutgers (4-5, 1-5) Postgame
Post by: Mdot21 on November 06, 2022, 07:59:15 AM
1st time,PFFFT! he rotated last season and has had the meat of the order this one.Sooner or later he might have to go deeper more often vs stiffer competition.....on the road ;D.
he didn't rotate last season, they brought him off the bench and sprinkled him in a few plays here and there. that's hardly starting or rotating. he'd get a handful of snaps a game if that.

he will have to start connecting on the deep balls. it's been very frustrating to see- they've been close many times but just off by a hair. you'd think eventually that would start to click.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (9-0, 6-0) at Rutgers (4-5, 1-5) Postgame
Post by: FearlessF on November 06, 2022, 09:23:51 AM
Michigan in the 2nd half of their last 4 games? 100-3.

Indiana: 21-0
Penn State: 25-3
Michigan State: 16-0
Rutgers: 38-0
wait till they play Nebraska