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Title: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 26, 2022, 09:13:02 PM
The following clip by Hawkeye vlog From the Hawkeye of the Storm, does a nice job of distilling the growing controversy involving the Ferentz Family football syndicate. Doug Lesmerises has really gotten under Kirk Ferentz' skin:

https://youtu.be/c9qk_KxXaOY

Damn right it was a bad look from Ferentz with school yard comeback.His presser was nearly as bad as his kids scheme - unlike the regulars Lesmerises had the cajones to say it to his face.And Ferentz was backpeddaling until Doug Lesmerises wasn't there to roast him
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 27, 2022, 06:22:49 AM
So evidently Kirk back tracked and in a prepared statemnet apologized. Prolly realizing the guy was doing his job
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: bayareabadger on October 27, 2022, 07:47:59 AM
He’s right, it could be a lot worse than having. A job. I would like $211k to very pay period with little accountability.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 27, 2022, 09:07:23 AM
Kirk Ferentz is 181-114 as Iowa HC. He’s been the longest tenured coach in college football since 2017 and this is his 24th season at Iowa.

I’m thinking Ferentz’s plan is to reach 200 total victories before retiring. Then the plan was to hand the reigns over to his son who by all accounts is in over his head.

The Hawkeyes have finished the past 4 seasons ranked in the AP Top 25. With Illinois, Purdue, and Minnesota becoming tougher outs over the past few years, those 200 wins are suddenly harder to come by.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Mdot21 on October 27, 2022, 09:14:57 AM
notice the liked tweet...dude is an iowa asst coach. his father in law happens to be....kirk ferentz. lol. kirk really should just step down. time for some new blood there.

https://twitter.com/FromTheHawkeye/status/1585105524856475648?s=20&t=trjcyRddBG4f729Nx24BHw
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 27, 2022, 09:38:13 AM
As much as I hate Brian Ferentz being the OC and QB coach, which is a terrible idea, I have to stick up for Kirk Ferentz somewhat.  This is Iowa's record since Brian Ferentz took over as OC in 2017

2017:  8-5
2018.  9-4
2019.  10-3
2020.  6-2
2021.  10-4 (west division champs)
2022.  3-4

Overall  46-20

Iowa's offense has never been great, but that's Iowa's style.  It's a very boring style (if you like TD's scored).  So it feels like to Kirk Ferentz that the press is unfairly pouncing on Brian in a down year. 

But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa.  No WR wants to come to Iowa now.  The only way to fix it is to fire Brian Ferentz as OC.  Since Kirk will never fire Brian, the program is stuck until Kirk retires.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 09:47:09 AM
notice the liked tweet...dude is an iowa asst coach. his father in law happens to be....kirk ferentz. lol. kirk really should just step down. time for some new blood there.

https://twitter.com/FromTheHawkeye/status/1585105524856475648?s=20&t=trjcyRddBG4f729Nx24BHw
typically mild mannered and extremely respectful?

that's an exaggeration, especially the past 4 or 5 years
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Abba on October 27, 2022, 09:48:26 AM
I thought the issue with Brian is more so that he is taking on the role of QB coach also.  He's not a great OC, but what is he doing coaching QBs?  Has he been doing both since 2017, or is coaching QBs more recent?
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 10:09:30 AM
As much as I hate Brian Ferentz being the OC and QB coach, which is a terrible idea, I have to stick up for Kirk Ferentz somewhat.  This is Iowa's record since Brian Ferentz took over as OC in 2017

2017:  8-5
2018.  9-4
2019.  10-3
2020.  6-2
2021.  10-4 (west division champs)
2022.  3-4

Overall  46-20

Iowa's offense has never been great, but that's Iowa's style.  It's a very boring style (if you like TD's scored).  So it feels like to Kirk Ferentz that the press is unfairly pouncing on Brian in a down year. 

But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa.  No WR wants to come to Iowa now.  The only way to fix it is to fire Brian Ferentz as OC.  Since Kirk will never fire Brian, the program is stuck until Kirk retires.
wins and losses are the most important stat, obviously
but, fans and media like offense - also with a decent offense it's likely there are even more wins vs fewer losses

2017 - 329 ypg
2018 - 375 ypg
2019 - 366 ypg
2020 - 368 ypg
2021 - 303 ypg
2022 - 227 ypg
____________________________
the former O-coordinator was relieved because of a bad offense

2013 - 377
2014 - 400
2015 - 386
2016 - 325
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: GopherRock on October 27, 2022, 10:45:49 AM
Bitter, party of one. Bitter, party of one...
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Temp430 on October 27, 2022, 11:00:48 AM
I doubt firing the OC at this time would be the magic bullet that fixes the offense. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 11:26:55 AM
takin away his playcalling and the coaching of the QBs might help a little

demoting him to O-line coach might help the O-line
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 27, 2022, 12:25:45 PM

wins and losses are the most important stat, obviously
but, fans and media like offense - also with a decent offense it's likely there are even more wins vs fewer losses
the former O-coordinator was relieved because of a bad offense
You make a good point the former O.C. had a statistically higher YPG than BF.Last week both defenses scored more points than BF's offense.That's problematic from a recruiting P.O.V. I'm guessin' the O.C. has a big hand with recruiting,so what prospect would go there right now with seemingly a dearth in both talent and scheme? Unless it locals or lower rated kids looking for opportunity - that could be coached up but it doesn't appear they have the guy to do that.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 12:49:23 PM
offensive players in the program are hitting the portal - see Purdue
Ferentz family not using the portal to bring in offensive players to fill gaps

can't imagine new recruits aren't aware or being made aware of the many issues with Brian, including the local and national media calling for his firing
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 27, 2022, 01:35:25 PM
I doubt firing the OC at this time would be the magic bullet that fixes the offense. 
Ehhhh....someone else calling plays might be.  Hire the guy from the Broncos.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2022, 01:37:36 PM
I don't know who he's trying to impress. Hawkeye Nation largely agrees with the reporter, and wish that their own media would ask some of these questions. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 27, 2022, 02:11:28 PM
But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa.  No WR wants to come to Iowa now.  The only way to fix it is to fire Brian Ferentz as OC.  Since Kirk will never fire Brian, the program is stuck until Kirk retires.
This, exactly this.

If Iowa's offense was merely not good or even just bad the Hawkeyes would still likely be the favorite to win the West because their defense is that good. That is Iowa's style, fine.

That isn't the case though. Iowa's offense would need to improve substantially to get to bad. I refer to them as the comically awful embodiment of nepotism and that is not an exaggeration.

The Hawkeyes only scored seven points against their FCS opponent in their opener. Since then South Dakota State has played seven FCS opponents and six of them have scored at least 10 points. It is actually worse than that because the seven points that Iowa scored against SDST came on a FG and two safeties. All seven of SDST's FCS opponents have scored at least a FG against SDST so Iowa's offense is actually really, really bad even compared to lower division teams.

Bad doesn't cover it. Pathetic is closer. Comically awful seems about right.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 02:13:43 PM
IOWA CITY, Iowa – Iowa head football coach Kirk Ferentz issued an apology to the Iowa media on Wednesday for comments he made during his weekly press conference on Tuesday about a reporter from Ohio.

“I had hoped to join the zoom call this morning, but practice lasted longer than anticipated. I wanted to take a moment to apologize for my comments during the news conference yesterday. I should not have been dismissive of one of your colleagues – his questions were fair. I have a high respect for the work that you do, and I am appreciative of how you cover our team. You ask tough and pointed questions but do so with a high degree of professionalism. I tell our players to take the high road and yesterday, I did not do the same thing.

“I look forward to seeing you on Saturday.”

Ferentz referred to his post-game press conference after last Saturday’s 54-10 loss to Ohio State as an interrogation and he singled out a reporter that covers Ohio State, but without naming him.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Riffraft on October 27, 2022, 06:41:21 PM
IOWA CITY, Iowa – Iowa head football coach Kirk Ferentz issued an apology to the Iowa media on Wednesday for comments he made during his weekly press conference on Tuesday about a reporter from Ohio.

“I had hoped to join the zoom call this morning, but practice lasted longer than anticipated. I wanted to take a moment to apologize for my comments during the news conference yesterday. I should not have been dismissive of one of your colleagues – his questions were fair. I have a high respect for the work that you do, and I am appreciative of how you cover our team. You ask tough and pointed questions but do so with a high degree of professionalism. I tell our players to take the high road and yesterday, I did not do the same thing.

“I look forward to seeing you on Saturday.”

Ferentz referred to his post-game press conference after last Saturday’s 54-10 loss to Ohio State as an interrogation and he singled out a reporter that covers Ohio State, but without naming him.

Just a replay of his verbal "apology" on Big Ten Radio.  It is was a pretty non-apologetic apology.  It was, yes I shouldn't have said what I said, but the tone of the questions were inappropriate.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 27, 2022, 07:39:06 PM
IOWA CITY, Iowa – Iowa head football coach Kirk Ferentz issued an apology to the Iowa media on Wednesday for comments he made during his weekly press conference on Tuesday about a reporter from Ohio.

“I had hoped to join the zoom call this morning, but practice lasted longer than anticipated. I wanted to take a moment to apologize for my comments during the news conference yesterday. I should not have been dismissive of one of your colleagues – his questions were fair. I have a high respect for the work that you do, and I am appreciative of how you cover our team. You ask tough and pointed questions but do so with a high degree of professionalism. I tell our players to take the high road and yesterday, I did not do the same thing.

“I look forward to seeing you on Saturday.”

Ferentz referred to his post-game press conference after last Saturday’s 54-10 loss to Ohio State as an interrogation and he singled out a reporter that covers Ohio State, but without naming him.



He didn't author a single word of that. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 27, 2022, 07:54:16 PM
if he can be persuaded to make an apology

he might be able to be persuaded to relieve his son of some coaching duties.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: bayareabadger on October 28, 2022, 12:45:45 AM

He didn't author a single word of that.
True. But he OKed it. Probably begrudgingly 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 07:55:08 AM
probably???
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 28, 2022, 08:11:17 AM
At least it's not as ridiculous as when, say, LeBron has such a statement, clearly written at a literacy rate that far exceeds his own. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 08:13:35 AM
I am going to give Kirk Ferentz the benefit of the doubt here.  I believe his apology was sincere in the the sense that he regrets saying it and it sets a bad example for his players.

I have done the same thing and I sure eveverybody has too.  Get mad and say things I regret and apologize the next day after thinking about it.  It does not matter if I was wrong or right.  I could have handled it better. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 28, 2022, 08:14:15 AM
But ultimately I feel Kirk is missing the point.  Iowa's offense is not just bad this year, it's historically bad, to the point that the whole country is laughing at Iowa. 

As a side note, this story has all the drama and scandal of what should be national story across the sports world. The historically bad offense, Ferentz coming across out of touch and trading barbs with the media, and especially the nepotism. But in flipping through the mainstream editorial shows such as First Take or PTI and the national radio shows from Fox Sports and especially ESPN, it’s evident the mainstream talking heads only make room for dramatizing the NFL and NBA’s dirty laundry (not even the actual gameplay).

In just these past two weeks alone college football has delivered plenty of its own noteworthy drama that’s barely touched on across the more national channels. Brian Kelly trolling Lane Kiffin, Texas A&M’s locker room meltdown amidst a losing season in which the Aggies are financially tied to Jimbo Fisher for quite some time, Harbaugh trading barbs with James Franklin over their teams squabbling in the stadium tunnels.

Finebaum and the fan podcasts go into all of this in depth, but that’s kinda my point. For better or worse college football coverage has gone the way of baseball, where it’s own intense following generates its own coverage and carves out its own fan spaces while the national coverage turns away to obsesses over the NFL and NBA, which draws a fraction of college football’s ratings.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 28, 2022, 08:50:38 AM
Yeah, I'm sad that Franklin let Harbaugh have the last word. I was hoping that the drama would consume him this week. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 09:05:22 AM
from Tom Shatel - Omaha World Herald...........

https://omaha.com/sports/college/shatel-modern-college-football-is-no-country-for-old-coaches-and-that-may-include-kirk/article_7e3691b8-54b8-11ed-b624-2f9d574dbe4a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Omaha_World-Herald_Huskers&fbclid=IwAR3levGWtZEudKU0TEnQD-sHn-lQsSW3yux8cnRqf3AWA9KkL1ES5pTtaBo (https://omaha.com/sports/college/shatel-modern-college-football-is-no-country-for-old-coaches-and-that-may-include-kirk/article_7e3691b8-54b8-11ed-b624-2f9d574dbe4a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_Omaha_World-Herald_Huskers&fbclid=IwAR3levGWtZEudKU0TEnQD-sHn-lQsSW3yux8cnRqf3AWA9KkL1ES5pTtaBo)

In any case, it feels like Iowa football is headed toward some sort of dramatic decision.

Ferentz is a powerful coach, one of the last of the emperors in college football.

He’s survived controversies around his strength coach, charges of racial tension in the program, and his promoting his son Brian to offensive coordinator and now quarterback coach.

And now that power may be tested.


If Iowa falls short of a bowl, would athletic director Gary Barta fire Brian Ferentz? Barta is Brian’s supervisor, because of Iowa’s nepotism policy.

What would dad say about that? Who’s the boss?

Would Kirk Ferentz consider stepping down? Or would he fight to return and take another shot?

Ferentz doesn’t strike me as the walk-away type. But he also doesn’t appear to be the transfer portal type, either.

This modern college football world is no country for old coaches, grinders who live by prehistoric words like loyalty and development.

Many college coaches of older generations, in both football and basketball, have retired in recent years because this isn’t the job they signed up for.


Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 09:10:40 AM
Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

2006-2007 : problems with several Iowa football players getting arrested.  Ferentz adjusts by changing the type of player that Iowa recruits.  Downside of this approach is it limits the number of players available to recruit.

2011:  13 Iowa players are sent to the hospital after an extreme off-season work-out.  The players had rhabdomyolysis, a stress-induced syndrome that can damage cells and cause kidney damage and even failure in severe cases.  This became known as the rhabdo scandal.  Ferentz adjusts by changing Iowa's workout routine and nobody gets fired.

2020 :  several ex-Iowa players accuse the Iowa coaching staff of racism.  Long time strength coach Chris Doyle is fired. Other Iowa assistants including Brian Ferentz are fingered, but survive.  Iowa adjusts by forming a new diversity panel made up of current and former Iowa players.  In Jan 2022 Kirk Ferentz decides on his own he will disolve the diversity group, saying he will replace it with something better.

2022:  Iowa is accused of nepotism when Kirk Ferentz refuses to consider firing his son Brian Ferentz as the OC and QB coach.  Ferentz adusts by....


Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Temp430 on October 28, 2022, 09:15:55 AM
What's changed since last year when Iowa went 10-2 and won the West?
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 09:22:40 AM
What's changed since last year when Iowa went 10-2 and won the West?
The OL got worse.  Last year's starting center was drafted in the 1st round of NFL draft.  This year's OL has no juniors or seniors starting.
The WR's got worse.  Iowa lost 2 WR's, including Charlie Jones, to the transfer portal.   Then lost its 2 starting WR's to injury.
The schedule got worse. Instead of Ind, MD, PSU,  Iowa got Rut, Mich and OSU as crossovers.
Long time Iowa assistant Ken O'Keefe retired.  He was Iowa OC from 1999 to 2011, then QB coach from 2017 to 2021.
Brian Ferentz was made the new QB coach.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 09:34:31 AM
WRs got worse cause the #1 option transferred to Purdue
cause he could see the offense wasn't a good fit
maybe he wasn't impressed with the pick for the QB coach
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2022, 09:35:21 AM
I am going to give Kirk Ferentz the benefit of the doubt here.  I believe his apology was sincere in the the sense that he regrets saying it and it sets a bad example for his players.

I have done the same thing and I sure eveverybody has too.  Get mad and say things I regret and apologize the next day after thinking about it.  It does not matter if I was wrong or right.  I could have handled it better. 
Good Post but you haven't been the highest paid employee of the State for two decades.Ferentz simply isn't coming clean about the problem IMHO,apology or not.That's okay because if he doesn't cut Junior loose it'll benefit the opposition not only on the field but in recruiting
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 09:41:48 AM
WRs got worse cause the #1 option transferred to Purdue
cause he could see the offense wasn't a good fit
maybe he wasn't impressed with the pick for the QB coach
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 09:44:05 AM
I like to give folks the benefit of the doubt as well.
Perhaps Kirk was sincere in some sense.  I'll give him that.

He certainly didn't say the statement out loud.  Especially with a microphone.
Seems like the statement was aimed at the local press.
I doubt he sent this note to the writer from Cleveland, columnist Doug Lesmerises.

“I had hoped to join the zoom call this morning, but practice lasted longer than anticipated. I wanted to take a moment to apologize for my comments during the news conference yesterday. I should not have been dismissive of one of your colleagues
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 10:11:09 AM
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
Jeez. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
see Badge,

Things could be much worser in Madison
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 10:14:56 AM
Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

agreed, but there comes a time when the old dog is just to tired to fight any longer
too tired to learn new tricks, like the portal and NIL
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 10:15:37 AM
That Jones kid played very well in Madison last week, albeit too little too late. Still, I'd take him in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 10:16:28 AM
agreed, but there comes a time when the old dog is just to tired to fight any longer
too tired to learn new tricks, like the portal and NIL
This is part of why CPC is not on the sidelines anymore.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 28, 2022, 10:33:29 AM
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
Pretty sure you're not the only Fan to catch this,quite damning.If Capt Kirk doesn't make the switch before next season then I'm guessing the pitchforks/torches will be coming out in I.C.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 10:36:56 AM
especially if the Cyclones make it two in a row
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 28, 2022, 11:17:37 AM
especially if the Cyclones make it two in a row
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 28, 2022, 11:37:32 AM
Kirk might encourage PArker to put the clamps on a certain WR
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 28, 2022, 12:00:01 PM
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
Easy to predict:

Purdue probably wins because while all four of the above comparisons are somewhat exaggerated the comparison for Purdue's defense is the most exaggerated. 

Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 28, 2022, 01:41:34 PM
How about what could happen when Iowa visits Purdue next week?
Hmmm...
It will be the battle of the offensive coordinators named Brian that are closely related to the head coach.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: ELA on October 28, 2022, 02:44:14 PM
Easy to predict:
  • When Purdue has the ball it will look like an NFL offense against an NFL defense.
  • When Iowa has the ball it will look like a Pee-wee offense against a Pee-wee defense.

Purdue probably wins because while all four of the above comparisons are somewhat exaggerated the comparison for Purdue's defense is the most exaggerated.


Per SP+, Purdue's offense (#30) and defense (#43) aren't that different
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 28, 2022, 03:27:36 PM
Per SP+, Purdue's offense (#30) and defense (#43) aren't that different
I definitely exaggerated especially wrt Purdue. I was mostly thinking of the stark difference between Iowa's CFP level defense and their not-even-FCS level offense. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Hawkinole on October 29, 2022, 12:01:56 AM

The OL got worse.  Last year's starting center was drafted in the 1st round of NFL draft.  This year's OL has no juniors or seniors starting.
Actually, there is one junior starting. Here is this week's O-Line depth chart:
LT: Mason Richman (6-6, 308), RS sophomore;  Jack Plumb (6-7, 297), RS senior

LG: Nick DeJong (6-6, 300), RS junior, Tyler Elsbury (6-5, 308), RS sophomore;
C: Logan Jones (6-3, 283), RS sophomore; Mike Myslinski (6-3, 287), RS freshman
RG: Beau Stephens (6-6, 307), RS freshman; Matt Fagan (6-5, 296), RS senior
RT: Connor Colby (6-6,  308), sophomore; Jack Plumb (6-7, 297), RS senior
Sophomores Connor Colby, and Mason Richman are two-year starters. Junior Nick DeJong is a two-year starter. Coming into the 2022 season, I expected the line to improve because Colby, Richman, and DeJong had a year of experience, and Logan Jones was well-regarded at center.
When he was a player, and Brian Ferentz was injured unable to play, it seemed the O-Line performed much worse. I thought he would have a career coaching O-Lines.
Former Colo. State O-Coordinator and past Wisconsin QB, and pas Wisconsin QB coach Jon Budmayr serves as Analyst on the staff. Iowa would do better (a) moving the O-Line coach to Analyst, (b) moving Brian Ferentz to O-Line coach, and (c) moving Jon Budmayr to O-Coordinator/QB coach. Perhaps not a problem solved, but an improvement made.



I thought the issue with Brian is more so that he is taking on the role of QB coach also.  He's not a great OC, but what is he doing coaching QBs?  Has he been doing both since 2017, or is coaching QBs more recent?
This is the 1st year Brian Ferentz was QB coach. He has been tight ends coach, RB coach and now QB coach at Iowa. From Wikipedia:
On his year as a running backs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_back) coach, Ferentz stated in 2020 during a coaching clinic "I'm like the worst running back coach in America. I was a shitty running back coach... I did it for a year, and I quit. It was too hard. I was no good at it."[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Ferentz#cite_note-20) After taking over as quarterbacks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterback) coach in spring 2022, Ferentz told media "man, I got a lot to learn."[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Ferentz#cite_note-21)


Kirk Ferentz is the ultimate survivor.  He manages to make it through mini-scandals that would get other coaches fired.  But to his credit, he learns and adjusts to each mini-scandal

2006-2007 : problems with several Iowa football players getting arrested.  Ferentz adjusts by changing the type of player that Iowa recruits.  Downside of this approach is it limits the number of players available to recruit. This was not a mini-scandal. It was really bad. Very serious offenses were alleged, but I don't think any were convicted of very serious offenses. Some players were shown the door, and this came out of the greatest recruiting class Iowa either ever had, or had ever had since the 1950s when Alex Karras and his classmates were brought in.

2011:  13 Iowa players are sent to the hospital after an extreme off-season work-out.  The players had rhabdomyolysis, a stress-induced syndrome that can damage cells and cause kidney damage and even failure in severe cases.  This became known as the rhabdo scandal.  Ferentz adjusts by changing Iowa's workout routine and nobody gets fired. This was not a mini-scandal but somehow Kirk Ferentz shook this off too, and in the process created a new award for assistant coaches.: "Three months after the rhabdomyolysis incident, Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz named Doyle the recipient of the team’s inaugural assistant coach of the year award. [After 2020]  Doyle was the only staff member removed from the program as a result of allegations from former players. Chris Doyle, former Iowa strength coach accused of racism and bullying, hired by Jacksonville Jaguars - The Daily Iowan (https://dailyiowan.com/2021/02/11/chris-doyle-former-iowa-strength-coach-accused-of-racism-and-bullying-hired-by-jacksonville-jaguars/#:~:text=Three months after the rhabdomyolysis incident%2C Iowa head,June 7%2C Doyle denied ever making racist comments.)

2020 :  several ex-Iowa players accuse the Iowa coaching staff of racism.  Long time strength coach Chris Doyle is fired. Other Iowa assistants including Brian Ferentz are fingered, but survive.  Iowa adjusts by forming a new diversity panel made up of current and former Iowa players.  In Jan 2022 Kirk Ferentz decides on his own he will disolve the diversity group, saying he will replace it with something better.






Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 29, 2022, 07:48:22 AM
Yes,  ultimately Urban Meyer tried to hire former Iowa strength coach Chris Doyle as his strength coach for the  Jacksonville Jaguars.  But that ended up blowing up for Meyer, and the Doyle hiring was reversed after 1 day.

Doyle is now considered toxic and unhirable.  The racism charges against Doyle are not going away as easily as first thought.

Ultimately I believe although the racism charges against Iowa have died down,  it still kind of lingers as an issue. Petty lawsuits are still pending.  Another reason Brian Ferentz will probably never be given the head coaching job at Iowa.

Although the logical choice if Iowa was going to hire a head coach from its own staff would be DC Phil Parker,  another good choice might be special teams coach LeVar Woods.  There are a lot of signs that Woods would make a good head coach, and to be honest,  he would be the best face for the program if Iowa wanted to make the racism charges go away for good.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2022, 08:21:09 AM
I'm guessing Iowa's offense will look not horrible today vs the terrible Cat defense and things will die down for a week
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 29, 2022, 09:23:06 AM
Either that, or Fitzgerald dunks on BF all day. 
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2022, 09:42:36 AM
if Capt Kirk is so set on handing head duties to Brian someday........ why in the "F" doesn't he put him in a position to at least look good?

give him some help on the offensive side or just make him assistant head coach with no real duties or something

anything!
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: MrNubbz on October 29, 2022, 09:55:59 AM
If Iowa let's the spoils of Kirk's loins take the head set then they deserve what they get
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on October 29, 2022, 09:49:21 PM
Well after Iowa scores 33 points against NW, I guess Kirk Ferentz can now tell all of us to just STFU. 

Spencer Petras started at QB and played the whole game, going 21-30, 220 yards, 1TD, no int.  Looks like it's going to be Petras the rest of the way.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on October 29, 2022, 11:02:43 PM
yup, things will die down for a week
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2022, 01:26:33 PM
Much of the criticism directed at the Iowa offense this year, besides the typical bashing of quarterback Spencer Petras, has been centered around offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz’s scheme and play calling.

Many see his offense lacking innovation and creativity, which is a completely fair assessment. In an age where we are seeing a mix of new, exciting offensive philosophies in football, Iowa’s offense has lagged behind in a bygone era.

While the rest of the college football landscape is a full menu of options, the Hawkeyes have been a scoop of vanilla ice cream in a styrofoam bowl.

Against Northwestern this past week, though, fans saw something new from the offense. More correctly, they saw the reintroduction of something that should’ve been used from game one.

Scott Dochterman of The Athletic wrote a feature on Iowa’s heavy usage of jet sweeps this past Saturday, and how it greatly impacted their best performance of the season.

On Saturday, the Hawkeyes (4-4 overall, 2-3 Big Ten) not only showed it was possible to do so; they proved it. Iowa blended motion on traditional zone runs and receiver sweeps with multiple passing plays. From the first offensive play to the last, Iowa used jet motion on nearly one-third of its plays. Of the Hawkeyes’ 65 snaps, they ran jet motion on 20. In a 33-13 win against Northwestern, Iowa totaled nearly half of its jet motions this season. – Dochterman, The Athletic.

Used very sparingly throughout the season, jet sweeps actually found success for the Hawkeyes this season. Per Dochterman’s research, in the Hawkeyes’ seven games prior to Northwestern, receivers ran four times for 27 yards and running backs had carried 11 times for 108 yards with jet motion. On passing plays accompanied by jet motion, Iowa had seven completions for 44 yards.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/finally-iowa-is-utilizing-another-layer-with-its-offense/ar-AA13FJ3a?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f59d200bf09a44519d3977d24e6880b5 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/finally-iowa-is-utilizing-another-layer-with-its-offense/ar-AA13FJ3a?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=f59d200bf09a44519d3977d24e6880b5)
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: LittlePig on November 03, 2022, 04:55:51 PM
Charlie Jones WR stats

3 years at Iowa. - 21 catches, 3 TD's

8 games at Purdue - 72 catches,  9 TD's

I would say he made the right call transferring to Purdue.
I heard a rumor that Charlie Jones was offered $650k by Nebraska and offered 7 digits to come play for Purdue.  Nothing wrong with that if it even is true.  It's all legal now (I think).  I wonder what Iowa's offer was.
Title: Re: Ferentz's bitter remarks
Post by: FearlessF on November 03, 2022, 10:39:34 PM
I have a pretty good idea that Iowa's offer was room/board & classroom