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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: MikeDeTiger on October 19, 2022, 10:17:54 AM
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Tennessee is playing...not many will be watching.
Ole Miss @ LSU Vegas has the Tigers -1.5....that is surprising to me. Ole Miss' offense looks like too much for the Tigers imo. I guess if the offense has found something we could try to make it interesting in a boat race. Probably the Gator defense made LSU look better than they are. I'll be there to see it in person, however it goes, but I'm expecting to leave disappointed.
Vanderbilt @ Mizzou Pillow fight of the week? I'd pick Missouri at home, but not confidently
Clanga @ Bama Bama won't play so undisciplined two weeks in a row, and will be home. Could get ugly for the cowbells
A&M @ SCar I don't know what to make of this game. USC seemed lifeless, then they go beat Kentucky at their place. Both teams have at times shown signs of life and also signs of being put on hospice. When I don't have any ideas about how teams will match up, I'll take the more talented team, which is the Aggies. But on the road and with their ups and downs, I could be wrong.
UGA and Florida both rest up for next week. Good thing, they need to be at their best because I'll be at my UGA buddy's house for our 4th annual Cocktail Party Viewing. Depending on the weather, it'll either be meat of choice on the grill OR chili in the giant pot. I demand a good show from these teams while I eat my food.
...I am assuming I am not banned from his house. We did watch the SECCG game and that didn't go well, I wasn't able to make the NC rematch, and that worked out better, so you never know how these fans are with superstitions.
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Kinda of a boringish Saturday:
Tenn 51 MarTenn 16
Ole Miss 38 LSU 27
Mizzou 26 Vandy 13
Bama 47 MSU 20
A&M 31 USCe 21
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A&M is under a ton of pressure due to the much hyped recruiting class and our Jumbo sized contract for Jimbo. Obviously we’ve had a rough start to the season, and in reality we should be 5-1 or maybe a more palpable 4-2.
For A&M, our defense is extremely talented, but flawed. We have some youth on the line and in the defensive backfield but 8 games in they are playing much better. I have not watched SCar, but if their OL is suspect we will pressure their QB a lot and either flush him out of the pocket or force him into bad throws.
Our offense is in shambles. The OL is like Swiss cheese, the QB is mediocre at best, and our WR are hot and cold. Our RB, Achane, can be good to great if the OL can make space for him.
We’ve won all our games vs SCar so far in the SEC. I’m not under any impression that the Bama game would have still come down to the last play if Bryce Young had played, but I think we will play much better on offense than we have all season. I think we can score at least 28-35, and I see SCar being held to 17-21 points.
I’m going with A&M 31 SCar 17 with the game being close until the late 3rd quarter.
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That is almost my prediction.
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Somebody gave me free tickets, which is why I'm going to this cluster.
I haven't been to a game since the A&M game to close out the regular season in 2013. I got to see a handful of NFL stars do their thing, including Odell Beckham Jr., Jarvis Landry, Tre'Davious White for LSU, and Mike Evans for A&M, among probably others I'm forgetting. Manziel was their QB at that time also.
It's actually depressing to think of all the great players since then that I missed....Fournette, Chase, Jefferson, Burrow, White, a slew of ridiculous DBs.....never saw them play in person....
....and now I'm going to watch this shipwreck. Maybe we'll do better than I think, or at least maybe Ole Miss will have some guys who'll be NFL stars and I'll be able to say "neat, I saw them play in college."
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Ole Miss is kinda due for a slip.
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Clanga @ Bama Bama won't play so undisciplined two weeks in a row, and will be home. Could get ugly for the cowbells
it's going on 6 weeks now at least. arguably going on 2 years.
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For some reason the line went from slightly favoring A&M to slightly favoring USC. It may be that we’re starting Connor Weigman, our untested 5* QB because King got injured at Bama.
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Well, I missed two entirely of course, I had said elsewhere Ole Miss seems to lose one like this between now and Bama.
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Did we learn anything this past weekend?
Ole Miss is not a juggernaut and LSU is not that bad. LSU "could" be 6-1. The Kelly experiment seems to be at least pretty good so far.
A&M, well, what can one say? Expectations.
Bama did about as expected, perhaps better on D than most predicted.
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So the bama D is pretty good after all? They just fell flat in kville? Unlike every other game? Two 20s, one 26, the rest single digit and then just that one time they slept and let UT score 52?
That makes a lot more sense than UT having a pretty good O and stretching teams out, forcing them into shootouts.. sure.
UT has 10 games straight scoring 30+... that didn't have anything to do with it either...
They scored 45pts before halftime, and after retiring hooker for the game 3/4 through the second. They could have scored 90+ with ease... im glad they didn't. The second and third string- extremely young- needs all the reps they can get.
Like bama, UT can't do anything without their starting QB at the helm. Even against a div1aa school. (I still refuse to use fbs and fcs)..
That matters and why I bring it forward. An injury to hooker and this unexpected dream season turns into a nightmare.
I'm tickled about the UGA fans... they act as if they've always been there and are par with dynasty teams... theyre good, for sure, but they are Johnny come lately's.. theyre looking down their short snouts at UT in one breath, and then the same people are putting out social media posts demanding none of their fan base sell tickets to UT fans, going as far as to say "don't let them stay with you and if you do destroy their tickets".. what a bunch of clowns- either theyre worried or they aren't....
I'm worried about UK. It's going to be a dog fight... that rivalry has heated back up in the last few years with UK climbing as UT fell... basketball rivalry doesn't help it much either. Theyre going to be tough.
LSU did UT no favors taking Ole miss out of contention. A rematch, if there could be one with bama, is going to be painful. Saban won't let that happen twice. However, ypu can't help but like Kelly and that team... theyre starting to really click like somebody predicted they would (and was stomped down by a LSU fan for suggesting such)..
UF is last in the nation on 3rd down stops. Dead. Last. This coach ain't gonna work out. He's a blowhard. UGA should mop the floor with them- but these rivalry games are a different sort... I'm hoping it's a dog fight that hangs over uga...
USCe is starting to click, too.. question is "at what level" and that's hard to say. They made a worn down and limping aTm look pretty bad. Jimbo just plain sucks. Whats happening to them, as a program, is similar to what happened at UT- too top heavy- too many prima donnas- too much arrogance backed by reputation instead of production... you can only get so many miles out of beating bama the year prior.
The Texas OSU game was a good one. I like Texas, and I like the cowboys. I dont have a dog in the fight but will say Texas is one decent QB away from being a damn good team.
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UGA fans should be worried about the Vols, but I doubt a few thousand possible tickets sold to their fans would be decisive. The Vols certainly can put up points and that probably is the best overall approach to beating UGA this year. They haven't had a shoot out kind of game in a long time. Stetson Bennett has been a bit sporadic at times (Missouri). I think Oregon just hit a perfect storm and got knocked down so fast they couldn't play their game.
UGA basically has Florida, Tenn, and at UK, and then at MSU, so even a pretty good team might well not win out. Sure, they are large favorites over Florida, but Dawg fans know how that can go.
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...theyre starting to really click like somebody predicted they would (and was stomped down by a LSU fan for suggesting such)..
Are you feeling oppressed? Is "the man" keeping you down?
Man, you Tennessee guys have gotten sensative after being down for a decade.
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Hehehehee I talk smack my brutha Mike. Same as with cincy. I gotta say, it's nice to have a voice in the room again. However short lived that may be. ...... may be.
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UGA is currently a 23.5-point favorite over Florida. It would mark the most favored the Bulldogs have ever been over the Gators.
The most favored UGA has been for the history of the game:
21- 1971
14- 2021
13’- 2017
11- 1970
10’- 2014
10- 1949
10- 1950
I know many here think you throw out the records when rivalry games are played, and that could be true here again.
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Cuzzin Billy seems to be getting worse, not better. I don't think it's him so much as just a bad team, but... he'll catch the hell for it all the same.
UGA "should" shred them. This game will say more about UGA than any other this far- and whether they go to work or get into the weeds where BS lives, and roll around in it like the kids they are.
Rivals have a tendency to do that far more in college than any other level and I'm guessing it a charge to the maturity level of players and coaches who exploit it.... hence the weirdness that happens. I just don't see Florida having the ability to move the ball nor hold back UGA.
Rivalry will play a lot more of a role when UF and USCe play. There isn't such a delta between those two as there is with UGA and UF.
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Hehehehee I talk smack my brutha Mike. Same as with cincy. I gotta say, it's nice to have a voice in the room again. However short lived that may be. ...... may be.
fwiw, I root for a strong Tennessee team as a weak Vols program only helps Alabama in our divisional race each year.
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What a weird weekend. Halfway to Baton Rouge my wife got a call that her grandpa passed. We were riding with friends and there was nothing we could do. We weren't going to drive up to north Texas that day anyway, so there was no point in not continuing on. But she was understandably kinda zoned out for the rest of the day. I tried to enjoy the game as best I could, but it doesn't seem nearly so important or even fun when when your wife is right there and you know she's having a crappy day.
Then after the game I saw on fb that the wife in a couple who are old friends of mine passed sometime during the game from her long bout with an aggressive spinal tumor that had metastasized into her abdominal area. It wasn't exactly unexpected, but she had beat the odds for so long with various improvements along the way that the doctors at MD Anderson didn't see coming that I guess you kind of keep hoping somehow it won't finally happen. They have 4 kids all below age 12 or so and the whole thing just sucks.
In between all that, there was a game with Ole Miss, who I hate, so here's my thoughts on that:
It probably helped a whole bunch that their best rusher was out for the game and they lost their top two tacklers (best LB and best safety) during the course of the game. LSU's offense really started to pile on them as those guys were unavailable. I don't know that Ole Miss is as poor or LSU is as good as either looked. I don't know if having everyone available would've been enough for the Rebels to win, but common sense says they'd have been in better shape.
Still, the defense played one of the best games against an RPO offense that I've ever seen. Well....after the first quarter anyway, which of course featured LSU doing zilch to slow them down. The D still needs some roster-building, especially in the secondary, but they do seem well-coached overall. I admit at 14-3 I thought it was over, and at 17-3 I was sure of it. I guess the antidote to starting poorly is finishing on a 42-3 run.
The special teams went from horrible liability all season to.....really good. For the day, anyway. Amazing what can happen in a game when you don't give the opponent a few unearned scores.
The offense is still questionable. For all the numbers Daniels put up, it's hard to ignore that it doesn't look like his game would work against an excellent defense. I rewatched the game on tv last night, and I was reminded of how much you can't see on camera. There were two plays Ole Miss busted coverage badly...I mean we had a wr WIDE open, and Daniels didn't see them. I think he scrambled for positive yards, and I don't know if there was pressure keeping his eyes from staying downfield, but those were TDs. You really can't miss stuff like that. On the first TD pass he did make, that throw was way late and he was fortunate it wasn't intercepted. The WR was very open midway through the route, which is when the ball should have been coming. By the time he actually threw the ball, the receiver had stopped in the endzone, the corner had caught up and the safety had time to get over, so it was double coverage. The WR basically intercepted the ball from the DBs, which is more fortunate than good for the QB. Thing is, that play WAS there for an easy TD....but you have to throw the ball way earlier. That was kind of a theme I noticed. Early on LSU receivers didn't get much separation. As the game went on they got what I call "SEC separation" by which I mean they're not wide open but a decent QB has to pull the trigger on those plays and trust his accuracy and his receivers. But he's still scared of those plays. He also didn't get through progressions, that I could tell, he found his first read and if it wasn't there, he stared at it until he had to scramble. This may work against Arkansas and A&M, but I'd expect significantly less production against Alabama.
All that said, I maintain the team has made noticeable progress since the Florida State opener. Even one less special teams gaffe probably wins that one, and we "could be" 7-1. And I'll go to my grave believing if LSU had a game under their belt at the time as FSU did, we probably win that. This isn't a team ready to contend for anything, but the kids are playing hard, they don't quit, and imo there are signs the players are pretty well coached overall and starting to have some trust in the new staff. If things continue as they have this season, they could be "LSU" again in 2024, maybe pretty decent in 2023 depending on the QB situation. At any rate, considering where we started at the end of the Coach O era, I'm happy with the progress shown so far.
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Good post. Sorry about the loss of course.
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I've always like LSU except when they play UT... I've like UGA and USCe too- and even UK who i want to see do well... UF i've nothing but animosity toward.. Bama went from being a regarded rival to being hapless to rival to hapless, to saban era that has spawned an incredibly entitled generation of fans...
it seems everyone in the nation is a fan of 'their' team, and then either a clemson, bama, tosu, or oklahoma fan to boot... we've been groomed to expect 12-0 seasons and anything less being 'luck'... and we've lost respect for the game and each other along the way.
i tell people i am a fan of the game first, and the team second. i took this position in the early 2000's- and why? most likely because UT fell apart... and i found i still enjoyed watching the games even though it was frustration more often than not.
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sorry to hear about losing folks close, mike- that is never easy.
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Had a long post typed up that got zonked somehow, so here is the short of it:
A&M sucks. Our QB sucks, and our Oline sucks. The defense is ok, not great, but ok, sometimes good. We have one good WR, Stewart, and our great Running back Achane can't get anything going because the Oline looks like swiss cheese.
That is all.
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Maybe your backup long snapper is really good?
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LSU friend of mine said this about AD Woodward's hires so far for LSU, that they all look good but the best one may be hiring Jimbo while he was still AD at A&M.