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Title: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 03, 2022, 10:19:06 AM
In the B1G-E, unless there are multiple shocking upsets, these three games will decide the race:

The other four teams are each already a game or two behind, several of them already have have H2H losses to one of the Big Three, and none of them look capable of catching up. 

The B1G-W race looks like it will be the most exciting race in the P5 because, at least at this point, none of the teams looks substantially better or worse than the pack.

Right now there is a six-way tie for first with Wisconsin one game back in last.

Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: LittlePig on October 03, 2022, 10:41:35 AM
Upcoming games this weekend

Nebraska @ Rutgers on Friday

Mich @ Ind

Purdue @ MD

Wisc @ NW

OSU @ MSU

Iowa @ ILL

The most interesting matchup to me would be Purdue @ MD.  MD has played good the last 2 weeks.  Let's see if the can keep it up.  If Purdue can snatch a victory, they might be the new favorites in the west.

Also intriguing is Iowa @ILL.  Is Illinois for real or was that big victory over Wisc just a fluke?  This may be Iowa's last chance to show its still a contender. 

Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2022, 10:41:41 AM
Right now there is a six-way tie for first with Wisconsin one game back in last.


this was a problem for the coach
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on October 03, 2022, 11:03:46 AM
this was a problem for the coach
Not any longer. 
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2022, 01:06:21 PM

Michigan-Penn State game was rumored to possibly be a night game. Just got announced as a noon kickoff. Penn State catches a break with that. This one should have been a night game- will be a battle of top 10 teams provided Michigan takes care of business this week.


Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Temp430 on October 03, 2022, 01:13:40 PM
Michigan-Penn State game was rumored to possibly be a night game. Just got announced as a noon kickoff. Penn State catches a break with that. This one should have been a night game- will be a battle of top 10 teams provided Michigan takes care of business this week.



Glad that game is in Ann Arbor whatever time its played.  It will make or break the season for both teams.  The Nitts have been looking good.  Clifford has the QB edge with experience and Penn State has a couple of very good RBs.  Best RB situation since Barkley.  I would chalk up most of their fumbles on Saturday to it being a slop fest in the rain.  Can't over look Indiana though.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2022, 01:20:18 PM
Michigan-Penn State game was rumored to possibly be a night game. Just got announced as a noon kickoff. Penn State catches a break with that. This one should have been a night game- will be a battle of top 10 teams provided Michigan takes care of business this week.



I've not been told the Big House is an intimidating place to play anytime day or night
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2022, 01:20:40 PM
Glad that game is in Ann Arbor.  It will make or break the season for both teams.  The Nitts and have been looking good.  Clifford has the QB edge with experience and Penn State has a couple of very good RBs.  Best RB situation since Barkley.  I would chalk up most of their fumbles on Saturday to it being a slop fest in the rain.  Can't over look Indiana though.
yeah they have to take care of Indiana. do that and this game will be a HUGE game for both teams. Michigan is getting fortunate to play this one at home. Penn State has not beaten a ranked Michigan team in Ann Arbor since 1995 I believe. 

Aside from COVID year- which was a disaster year- Franklin has never won in Ann Arbor- even Brady Hoke beat him in Ann Arbor. Franklin has come into Ann Arbor twice when Michigan was ranked (2016 and 2018)- and got blown off the field both times, 49-10 and 42-7. 

Throw out the trash COVID year and Franklin is only 2-5 vs Michigan, with some bad blow out losses in Ann Arbor.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2022, 01:22:20 PM
the Hoosiers are not good

any decent effort at all should be enough to get a win
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2022, 01:24:20 PM
the Hoosiers are not good

any decent effort at all should be enough to get a win
never say never. Look at Georgia the last two weeks. Needed herculean efforts to beat some god awful teams. I've seen Michigan sh&t the bed way too many times over the years. Don't really care how they win, just win. Survive and advance.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 05, 2022, 05:16:05 PM
What if Ohio State, Penn State, and Michigan split with each other and otherwise win out to all finish 11-1/8-1?

In that case the first tiebreaker that could decide it is #5, cumulative record of non-divisional opponents. Penn State would appear to be the likely winner, here are the three B1G-W opponents for each:


Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: LittlePig on October 05, 2022, 08:01:31 PM
In that case the first tiebreaker that could decide it is #5, cumulative record of non-divisional opponents. Penn State would appear to be the likely winner, here are the three B1G-W opponents for each:

  • tOSU: IA, UW, NU
  • PSU: PU, MN, NU
  • M: IL, IA, UNL
Haha, the race for the Big Ten East will naturally come down to who wins the Iowa-Purdue, Iowa-Minn, Wisc-Minn and Wisc-Purdue games.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 05, 2022, 09:23:24 PM
What would have to happen in order for Rutgers to win it? 
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Cincydawg on October 06, 2022, 09:16:45 AM
What would have to happen in order for Rutgers to win it?
They would need to win out of course and for OSU to lose 3 games in conference.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 06, 2022, 09:32:45 AM
What would have to happen in order for Rutgers to win it?
A lot.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: LittlePig on October 06, 2022, 09:32:49 AM
What would have to happen in order for Rutgers to win it?
Well, you could have a major scandal in which OSU, Mich, PSU and MD are forced to forfeit all their wins. 

BUT seriously maybe we should start with baby steps.  Let's see if Rutgers can beat Nebraska this week.  If they do that, we can talk again next week.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 06, 2022, 09:47:06 AM
Well, you could have a major scandall in which OSU, Mich, PSU and MD are forced to forfeit all their wins. 

BUT seriously maybe we should start with baby steps.  Let's see if Rutgers can beat Nebraska this week.  If they do that, we can talk again next week.
Agreed, baby steps. These next two games are key for Rutgers' bowl hopes.

Rutgers had a solid OOC going 3-0 with two road wins including one over a P5 opponent (BC). They've lost their last two to drop to 3-2/0-2 but they've played Iowa which probably has the best defense in the league and Ohio State which probably has the best offense in the league. Over the next three weeks they play two of the worst teams in the league (UNL and IU) wrapped around a week off. Additionally, their next two games are both at home.

If the Scarlet Knights can sweep the Cornhuskers and Hoosiers they'll improve to 5-2/2-2 with a reeling MSU still remaining on the schedule. They would have, IMHO, a better than even chance of finishing .500.

If they lose even one of the next two they'll need to beat MSU AND pull off what would be a rather shocking upset of either MN, M, PSU, or UMD.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2022, 10:00:21 AM

If the Scarlet Knights can sweep the Cornhuskers and Hoosiers they'll improve to 5-2/2-2 with a reeling MSU still remaining on the schedule. They would have, IMHO, a better than even chance of finishing .500.

if they can't sweep those two bad teams, they've got no business playing in a bowl game
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Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 06, 2022, 10:51:44 AM
They would need to win out of course and for OSU to lose 3 games in conference.
Plus everyone else would have to lose twice. 
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 06, 2022, 11:14:38 AM
Plus everyone else would have to lose twice.
Once, Rutgers winning out takes care of the other one.
Title: Re: B1G Divisional races after week 5
Post by: Cincydawg on October 06, 2022, 12:53:29 PM
Yup, they win out, OSU has to lose three, and everyone else at least two.  The odds look low to me.