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Title: #4 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Iowa (1-1, 3-2) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on September 26, 2022, 05:30:43 PM
Better Michigan squads than this one have gone into Kinnick turtled up and found ways to lose games that they shouldn't have. That place is cursed. F that place. Michigan catches a break in that this one is a noon kick off and not a night game.

This game scares me, but will say I am glad they had that poor performance vs Maryland last week. Lots of teachable moments for some young guys and a reality check for some players that maybe didn't come to play.

Donovan Edwards should be back in time for this one. That will help the offense out tremendously. They'll need that help as Iowa plays sound fundamental defensive football. Also glad they got that Maryland game out of the way because Iowa will do exactly what Maryland did in terms of defense- drop 7-8 into zone every snap and play little to no man- try to keep everything in front of them. Michigan should have a plan for flooding those zones- you'd think- which they didn't vs Maryland- and they should have teachable moments for McCarthy- if nothing is there check it down, take off, or throw it away- don't try to play that hero ball crap.

As far as Michigan's defense is concerned...this won't really be a test. Iowa is bad at offense. Everyone knows this. Their offense scored just 13 points vs Rutgers. Their defense scored 14. Iowa's best offense = their defense.

This will be an ugly game...and it scares me. McCarthy oozes with talent but last week vs Maryland he was all over the map and tried way too hard. He needs to just settle his ass down and take what the defense gives him and live to fight another down. If he does that- Michigan should win. If he tries to be a hero- could just wind up being an ugly ass game that Iowa wins by a late last second FG.

Regardless it will be a low scoring snooze fest imo in large part bc Harbaugh will do what he always does...go conservative and turtle up. This one is a real test for Michigan's offense. If they pass this test they'll likely roll into Columbus 10-1 or 11-0.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 26, 2022, 11:10:31 PM
I doubt Michigan is as good as one-year ago. Iowa is about as good, and bad as last season. Michigan won by 39 in 2021. It will be closer this season. Michigan prevails by 18. Game will be over by early in the 3rd quarter, and it won't seem like much of a contest. 

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 26, 2022, 11:12:34 PM
Very nice nice summary but I think this will be a fairly easy win for Michigan because of many of the reasons you stated.  Michigan got its wake up call against MD.  They won't get caught napping again.  

Plus I  just don't see Iowa's offense doing anything at all.  So Michigan knows the only way they lose is to beat themselves by making stupid turnovers.  So no need to force things early.  Just be patient.   The game will probably still be close at the half but eventually Iowa's defense will wear out and Michigan will pull away in the 3Q and 4Q.  Pretty much a repeat of last year's Big Ten CHampionship game.  
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 27, 2022, 07:14:11 AM
Michigan's offense was a bit underwhelming last Saturday and now gets tested against the nation's #1 defense.  Iowa finally got their offense humming last weekend by actually scoring points.  I think the key to the game for Michigan is to keep Iowa's defense from scoring.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 27, 2022, 09:29:25 AM
A lot may depend on how healthy Iowa's DB's and LB's are that have been hurt at times this year.

Iowa's original starting CB J. Harris is out for the year.  His backup Terry Roberts was out for the Rutgers game.  Not sure what the story is there.  His backup Copper DeJean was the guy who had the pick-6 against Rutgers.  DeJean is a young fantastic talent who already has 3 picks total and he has future all Big Ten written all over him.  But there was a reason Harris and Roberts were starting in front of DeJean.  DeJean is still learning. Also Iowa's starting LB Justin Jacob's is probably out. 

This happened to Iowa last year when they lost 2 of their top 3 corners for the Purdue and Wisc games,  games that Iowa lost badly.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2022, 09:30:05 AM
Michigan's offense was a bit underwhelming last Saturday and now gets tested against the nation's #1 defense.  Iowa finally got their offense humming last weekend by actually scoring points.  I think the key to the game for Michigan is to keep Iowa's defense from scoring.
Ed Zachery

So, does Jimmy play the game manager QB in Iowa City?
maybe after the first turnover
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 27, 2022, 10:23:46 AM
Who is calling the plays for Michigan?  I now feel confident in saying its not Josh Gattis who seems to be rapidly wearing out his welcome in Miami.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Abba on September 27, 2022, 10:28:20 AM
Ed Zachery

So, does Jimmy play the game manager QB in Iowa City?
maybe after the first turnover
I think he's still out.  It's do or die with JJ.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 11:08:42 AM
Michigan's offense was a bit underwhelming last Saturday and now gets tested against the nation's #1 defense.  Iowa finally got their offense humming last weekend by actually scoring points. I think the key to the game for Michigan is to keep Iowa's defense from scoring.
turnovers will be the key for Michigan. JJ has got to take care of the football. He threw one bad ball out of 22 attempts that should've been picked vs Maryland but the defender couldn't get a foot in bounds. It was a very late bad throw across the field that he forced into double coverage. He can't do something like that vs Iowa- those basterds will intercept that. His other 21 throws were not in harms way. He needs to stick with those 21 and ditch that 1. I think he can do that. 

What concerns me MORE with JJ is his desire to play hero ball and try and run around behind the line of scrimmage and try and be Houdini and pull off magic tricks. He almost got himself decapitated and he almost lost 2 fumbles vs Maryland doing that sh*t. CANNOT do that vs Iowa...they will fall on the fumbles or scoop them and score them. If nothing is there JJ needs to take off immediately get positive yards then slide, or just roll out and throw the ball away 50 yards into the stands with his rocket launcher arm. 

To me this game all boils down to JJ's maturity and growth. If he can learn from last weeks mistakes and not force any balls (he really only forced 1 vs Maryland) and not try to be a freaking hero behind the LOS and just throw it away or tuck, run, & slide- Michigan should be OK. He's going to have to just run the offense, take what the defense will give him, and learn to throw the ball away if nothing is there to live to fight another down and to protect the football. IF he can show that growth this week, Michigan should be OK.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2022, 11:37:42 AM
yup, Michigan doesn't allow Iowa's defense or special teams to score, they win easily
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 11:41:15 AM
yup, Michigan doesn't allow Iowa's defense or special teams to score, they win easily
Michigan has excellent special teams units themselves. I think that unit will show up to play, they normally do. JJ HAS to take care of the football this game or else Michigan is in trouble.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 27, 2022, 12:36:17 PM
yup, Michigan doesn't allow Iowa's defense or special teams to score, they win easily
You don't need to be nearly as good as Michigan for this to be a winning formula against Iowa. Both Rutgers and SoDakSt would have won if they had kept Iowa's D from scoring. 

It is easier said than done though so there is that.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: ELA on September 27, 2022, 03:48:23 PM
If Michigan goes up 7-0, they should just punt on 1st down like it was 1918
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 04:09:57 PM
If Michigan goes up 7-0, they should just punt on 1st down like it was 1918
might not be a bad idea lol. seriously though they should just try a lot of quick smoke screen passes to Bell and Wilson, some outlet swing passes to Edwards, maybe a reverse or two with AJ Henning, and tons of Blake Corum & Donovan Edwards rushing the football. Nix the stupid f'ing trick plays like they tried to run last week with Ronnie Bell and don't throw the ball over the middle of the field like at all and stay away from the sideline throws- those are dangerous bc they can go for 6 in the wrong direction. Want to throw some 40-50-60 yard deep shots with JJ- by all means have at it. Even if those are picked, long as you make the tackle they are kinda like punts.

Priority #1 needs to be take care of the football and play the field position game. Iowa's offense is coming off a showing where they put up only 13 points on Rutgers. Rutgers.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: ELA on September 27, 2022, 04:19:15 PM
Edwards with the ball in his hands is terrifying.  He's a total cheat code.  Is he the best RB?  Not sure.  But he's a dangerous RB, while also being arguably the best pass catcher in the conference.  Harbaugh should just steal an entire Madden play book, just to get him the ball.  He's what Le'Veon Bell was, once he was a pro, but while still in college.  Bell wasn't that dude when he was in East Lansing.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 04:23:30 PM
Edwards with the ball in his hands is terrifying.  He's a total cheat code.  Is he the best RB?  Not sure.  But he's a dangerous RB, while also being arguably the best pass catcher in the conference.  Harbaugh should just steal an entire Madden play book, just to get him the ball.  He's what Le'Veon Bell was, once he was a pro, but while still in college.  Bell wasn't that dude when he was in East Lansing.
hate to sound like a homer, but can't say I disagree. I have never seen a RB at Michigan as good as he is running routes and catching the football. He could legit play WR at a high level. He barely played last year as he was a true frosh behind two really good RB's- and this year he's been injured- he has yet to be unleashed. JJ McCarthy said in his presser the other day that he's glad to be getting #7 back this week. I believe they are like room-mates/BFF's. Good to know, and definitely way more info on an injured player than you'll ever get outta Harbaugh. 

Michigan's offense goes to another level with a healthy Edwards. You have another explosive RB to spell Corum and you have maybe the biggest mismatch in the passing game in the nation- Edwards on a LB in coverage is mismatch of laughable proportions- he's going to win that battle like 110% of the time.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2022, 04:38:13 PM
If Michigan goes up 7-0, they should just punt on 1st down like it was 1918
hah, they beat the hawks by 50
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 04:40:35 PM
hah, they beat the hawks by 50
no way. Game is in Kinnick and Iowa is too good at defense for that.

IF JJ protects the football and Donovan Edwards is full-go 100% - I think Michigan wins by like 10-14, but it'll be maybe a 21-7 or 21-10 type of game.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 05:03:24 PM
Ferentz says starting OLB Jestin Jacobs will miss the rest of the year- having surgery, starting WR Keagan Johnson will not play against Michigan, and rotational DB Terry Roberts is questionable. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: SuperMario on September 27, 2022, 05:06:14 PM
If Michigan goes up 7-0, they should just punt on 1st down like it was 1918
Ha. This genuinely made me laugh because it may be true. This will be an interesting game.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 27, 2022, 05:06:25 PM
advanced analytics gives Michigan an 85.28% win probability and predicts Michigan will score 17.53 points and Iowa will score 3.06 points.

https://twitter.com/statsowar/status/1574765600794374146?s=20&t=9SDajlOPrxG5DZxCKCSZRw
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 27, 2022, 05:11:33 PM
no way. Game is in Kinnick and Iowa is too good at defense for that.

IF JJ protects the football and Donovan Edwards is full-go 100% - I think Michigan wins by like 10-14, but it'll be maybe a 21-7 or 21-10 type of game.
if Michigan punts on 1st or 2nd down, they win by 50
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 28, 2022, 12:24:43 AM
On a personal note: I am in rural NE Iowa. My mom (age 88), dad (age 90), my sister, my brother, are in Tucson, and my other sister is moving this week - to Tucson.
I am flying down Saturday and will arrive (to surprise mom and dad) at about the start of the 4th Qtr. when Michigan is burying Iowa in place to surprise my geriatric but active parents. Michigan: Don't bury us too early. Thanks. (https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/football/2022/09/24/big-noon-kickoff-broadcast-live-iowa-city-iowa-michigan-football-fox/8105739001/?fbclid=IwAR0LeqGqciz-HWMlMxrqlVcZyheYOskJQ00IrmKnH7MdPrznrr5wsx3yqAE)
Hope to have some video for you.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 28, 2022, 07:15:46 AM
Besides RB Edwards starting OG Keegan and LB Hill-Green should be back for the Iowa game.  I assume backup QB McNamara is still out with an injuries since I was not able to find any speculation otherwise.  And I could swear I saw backup OT Barnhart dressed on the sideline last Saturday so I assume he's good to go as well..
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 28, 2022, 07:47:38 AM
Iowa is about to break out their fun and gun offense and put up 50+ ...
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 28, 2022, 07:50:56 AM
Iowa is about to break out their fun and gun offense and put up 50+ ...
LOL.  Right
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 28, 2022, 08:35:30 AM
Brian F. has been hiding offense so far this season just to spring the trap on Harbaugh!
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 28, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
Iowa is about to break out their fun and gun offense and put up 50+ ...
Well, stranger things have happened.

Iowa did it to Ohio State in 2017, wining 55-24 in a late afternoon game in Iowa City.  And this was a year where Iowa went 7-5 and OSU went 11-1.

Only that was Iowa's TE version of the fun and gun offense.  OSU just could not stop Iowa's TE's that day. And of course Iowa's defense got a pick-6 on the first play of the game.  That helped too.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 28, 2022, 03:08:25 PM
Besides RB Edwards starting OG Keegan and LB Hill-Green should be back for the Iowa game.  I assume backup QB McNamara is still out with an injuries since I was not able to find any speculation otherwise.  And I could swear I saw backup OT Barnhart dressed on the sideline last Saturday so I assume he's good to go as well..
Edwards and Keegan coming back healthy will be a big boost to the offense. Keegan is one of the best guards in the B1G. Edwards completely changes that offense. He's an explosive RB that can also run between the tackles and he allows them to give Corum a break and keep Corum fresh, and Edwards completely changes the dynamic in the passing game- he is a complete mismatch in the pass game- he runs routes and catches the football like a WR. Pretty obvious they don't trust the true frosh RB CJ Stokes after he put the ball on the turf when Michigan was in the red zone. Never saw him again after that. Michigan needs Edwards back asap- glad to hear he'll be back this week.

TE Erick All not being able to play really hurts though. I am not a big fan of their other TE's. Don't see any explosion from Schoonmaker whatsoever. Not only is All a better blocker than Schoonmaker- but he's much more dangerous with the ball in his hands after the catch. See: Penn State game last year.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 28, 2022, 06:12:18 PM
Pro Football Focus top rated defenses through first 4 weeks of the season? Iowa (93.5) and Michigan (93.1). 

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1574853130126139392?s=20&t=8oV-SXQNtulLdi3pjX8iMA
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 28, 2022, 06:18:47 PM
Iowa isn't going to blitz anyways, they'll stay in that cover 4 and play zone and drop 7-8 into coverage all day long and keep everything in front of them, but JJ has surprisingly done great this year vs the blitz. Highest passer rating vs the blitz in CFB so far through 4 weeks with 154.9, CJ Stroud is in the top 3 at 150.5 vs the blitz.

https://twitter.com/PFF_College/status/1575200418795339795?s=20&t=Xe1xlbfr1z9OLPc1LbazGQ
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 28, 2022, 08:20:22 PM
On a personal note: I am in rural NE Iowa. My mom (age 88), dad (age 90), my sister, my brother, are in Tucson, and my other sister is moving this week - to Tucson.
Ha I've been helping a friend pack two moving cubes/storage containers since sunday and will finish tomorrow(he has had neck/back operations and will need a knee replaced).His house just sold for 500K and they are moving to Phoenix to be closer to family but he wants to stay in Ohio - can't stand the heat. But his wife is working all week (dumb move)
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 29, 2022, 09:33:24 AM
On a personal note: I am in rural NE Iowa. My mom (age 88), dad (age 90), my sister, my brother, are in Tucson, and my other sister is moving this week - to Tucson.

If predictions about climate change are true, everybody will be moving from Arizona to the Midwest in 50 years.  I think I will just stay here when I retire.  I can just stay inside when it gets cold out.

I also predict the next coming fad will be retirement communities built around old abandoned shopping malls.  Where you can walk from your home to the mall without ever having to go outside.  Too bad I don't have any money to invest in this idea.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 29, 2022, 09:41:55 AM
I have this idea about climate tourism where people from the South can visit and I charge them for the privilege to shovel snow off my drive.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 09:46:31 AM
If predictions about climate change are true, everybody will be moving from Arizona to the Midwest in 50 years.  I think I will just stay here when I retire.  I can just stay inside when it gets cold out.

I also predict the next coming fad will be retirement communities built around old abandoned shopping malls.  Where you can walk from your home to the mall without ever having to go outside.  Too bad I don't have any money to invest in this idea.
so, what's the attraction in an abandoned mall?

set up putt-putt golf?
bingo tables?
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 09:47:56 AM
Iowa isn't going to blitz anyways, they'll stay in that cover 4 and play zone and drop 7-8 into coverage all day long and keep everything in front of them, but JJ has surprisingly done great this year vs the blitz.
Iowa doesn't blitz often, but they do, and when they come, they are usually effective
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Temp430 on September 29, 2022, 09:50:50 AM
If I recall from December, Iowa likes to move it's LBs and DBs around to confuse and disguise.  This tactic may be somewhat successful as it was for Maryland.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 29, 2022, 10:37:15 AM
against a QB with limited game experience, you can count on it
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2022, 11:18:53 AM
I have this idea about climate tourism where people from the South can visit and I charge them for the privilege to shovel snow off my drive.
Lmao brilliant 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 29, 2022, 08:54:25 PM
Here is an interesting stat

Iowa's results in its last 6 home games against AP top-5 foes:
2008 vs. 3. Penn State, W 24-23
2010 vs. 5. Michigan State, W 37-6
2016 vs. 2. Michigan, W 14-13
2017 vs. 4. Penn State, L 21-19
2017 vs. 3. Ohio State, W 55-24
2021 vs. 4. Penn State, W 23-20

This week, No. 4 Michigan comes to Iowa City
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on September 29, 2022, 09:13:36 PM
All good things got to come to an end..........but hopefully not for another week ;D
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2022, 09:24:34 PM
Here is an interesting stat

Iowa's results in its last 6 home games against AP top-5 foes:
2008 vs. 3. Penn State, W 24-23
2010 vs. 5. Michigan State, W 37-6
2016 vs. 2. Michigan, W 14-13
2017 vs. 4. Penn State, L 21-19
2017 vs. 3. Ohio State, W 55-24
2021 vs. 4. Penn State, W 23-20

This week, No. 4 Michigan comes to Iowa City

like Jim said...Kinnick is a place where top 5 teams go to die. And he has ample experience in dying there- as both player and coach at Michigan. His 2016 team as coach when they were #2 in the nation and in 1985 as the starting QB of Michigan when they were the #2 team in the nation.

This game should scare the heck out of every Michigan fan. Michigan special teams need to be on their A game and JJ McCarthy has got to take care of the football. If the special teams comes to play like they normally do and JJ doesn't turn it over- Michigan absolutely should win this game. Iowa's only hope is if they get special teams TDs and defensive TDs/short fields. Which is very possible: lotta weird sh*t happens in Kinnick and JJ is an inexperienced guy making his first ever road start and really his 2nd real start- those first 2 starts might've well been vs the sisters of the poor.

To me JJ needs to protect the ball at all costs and not turn it over- play a clean game. Don't try that hero ball crap. Just play a clean game, protect the ball and get out with the W and he gets an A grade from me. He tries the hero crap and turns it over 2-3 times then he gets an F....and Michigan will be in serious trouble. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 29, 2022, 09:27:50 PM
All good things got to come to an end..........but hopefully not for another week ;D
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/DeepEthicalFrillneckedlizard-size_restricted.gif)
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: ELA on September 30, 2022, 05:11:05 PM

BIG TEN GAME OF THE WEEK
#4 Michigan Wolverines (1-0, 4-0) at Iowa Hawkeyes (1-0, 3-1)
NOON - Iowa City, IA - FOX
Iowa City has been none too pleasant for Michigan football over the past two decades, losing 4 straight, going back to 2005, and 5 of 6, back to 2001.   Granted, during the 4 game home win streak, Iowa was favored twice, and the two times they were underdogs, it was by one score.  The big concern with Michigan this year was the front seven, and while its a one game sample size (the first three games could not mean less), the concerns seem validated.  The Maryland offensive line bullied Michigan, and opened running lanes all over the place.  They did a solid job, last drive against a prevent defense not withstanding, against the passing attack, but if Michigan can't win a trench battle, there are few teams that should concern them more than Iowa.  That said, this isn't just a bland Iowa offense, it's a bad Iowa offense.  They couldn't run on Rutgers last week, and thankfully Spencer Petras had his best game of the season, low bar acknowledged, and Iowa finished +3 in turnovers.  The fact that J.J. McCarthy is facing his second hostile road environment, the first being in limited duty in East Lansing last year, when he fumbled the ball twice, means that is not off the table.  But Rutgers doesn't have the offense to survive 3 turnovers, particularly when they generate none themselves.  Even if, worst case scenario, Michigan turns the ball over 3 times, I have to believe their secondary can bail them out a few times, and unless those turnovers are actually scored upon, I'm concerned just how much Iowa can do, even with a short field.  It was certainly a little surprising how well Maryland ran the ball against Michigan, but it was certainly not surprising that Maryland did move the ball.  Iowa hasn't moved the ball on anyone, even Rutgers.  And while Kinnick is certainly nasty to opposing teams, thanks to Big Noon Kickoff (which for the record, I like), it certainly doesn't give home teams the same type of edge that have fueled a number of those wins for the Hawkeyes.  I think Iowa's run game works, and they generate more offense than expected, but unless their defense can score, those turnovers to touchdowns, turn into turnovers to punts.  J.J. McCarthy probably makes a couple of mistakes in his first road start, but he also makes enough throws to beat an Iowa defense that hasn't faced a legit NFL quarterback since???  Josh Allen in the 2017 opener.
MICHIGAN 27, IOWA 21

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on September 30, 2022, 07:10:44 PM
I seem to recall the Iowa defense did pretty good against Josh Allen in 2017..  Allen's stats for the day.

174 yds passing, 0 TDs, 2 ints,  3 points tota. In a 24-3 Iowa win.

Also Kirk Cousins threw a career high 3 interceptions against Iowa in 2010, in a 31-6 Iowa win over MSU.

Going way way back,  I believe Ben Roethlesberger also had his worst game ever in college against Iowa, getting intercepted 4 times in a 2003 game that Iowa won 24-3.

Future NFL studs at QB do not necessarily scare Iowa's defense.  It's when future NFL QB's are teamed up with future NFL WR's, now that's more of a problem.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: GopherRock on September 30, 2022, 08:03:34 PM
If Iowa has a chance in this game, it's going to be a 9-7 or 10-9 stinker rank with punts, fumbles, missed field goals, and squabbling teammates. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on September 30, 2022, 10:02:14 PM
If Iowa has a chance in this game, it's going to be a 9-7 or 10-9 stinker rank with punts, fumbles, missed field goals, and squabbling teammates.
yeah, I'm kinda with you. I don't see how Iowa gets more than 10-13 points unless Michigan has special teams gaffes and/or turnovers on offense that go the other way- pick 6s, fumble scoop and scores. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: LittlePig on October 01, 2022, 08:17:16 AM
Yes, there are just too many things working against Iowa this game.  An iowa offense incapable of scoring and an Iowa defense just banged up enough that it will get tired in the 2nd half.

Feels like a 34-3 Michigan win.
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (4-0, 1-0) at Iowa (3-1, 1-0) Game Week Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 01, 2022, 10:00:32 AM
similar to last December
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Iowa (1-1, 3-2) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 02, 2022, 01:38:23 PM
JJ played a really clean game. Gets an A- from me. Would’ve gotten an A if he hit that deep shot he had open for the TD but over threw it by a few yards. He’s GOT to fix that timing issue and start hitting the deep bombs. Michigan has WRs that can get deep. 

I blasted him for fumbling…but on rewatch that wasn’t 100% his fault. Trente Jones the RT completely whiffed in pass protection and let a free rush come untouched and blow JJ up. It was on his right side so JJ should’ve seen him coming out his peripheral and maybe just tucked it and taken the sack- but that’s more on Jones imo. Jones continues to have major gaffes in pass protection - and that’s very concerning. 

Not a fan of the new DC Minter- he was playing way too much prevent and dropping back leaving huge holes and not trying to pressure Petras. Their pass rush was so inconsistent but it came alive in the 4th QTR. Mike Morris looks like an Adonis- he’s every bit his 6’6, 290 and he’s cut from granite- all muscled up no fat no gut. He flashes moments of serious ability but he goes stretches where he’s invisible. It’s maddening. Not saying he has to be Hutchinson- no one can be- but dude needs to step it up and bring it for 60 mins- not turn it on in spurts. Eyabi Okie was terrific when they put him out at edge and let him loose and just go get the QB. He may wind up being their best pass rusher by the time the season is over. He legit looks like an Ojabo clone- and Ojabo didn’t have his breakout party til Oct last season…maybe this Oct will be Okie’s breakout. One can hope. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Iowa (1-1, 3-2) Post Game
Post by: LittlePig on October 02, 2022, 03:24:57 PM
A couple of thoughts

I was really impressed with Blake Corum and his ability early in the game to find little holes in the line where the typical RB might only get a short gain.  A few more games like he has had the last 2 weeks and he will definitely be in the Heisman discussion.

Iowa did not lose the game just because of penalties.  It was pretty obvious Mich was the dominant team start to finish,  but some of the penalties called on Iowa did not help its chances if they ever were going to come back.

Title: Re: #4 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Iowa (1-1, 3-2) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 02, 2022, 03:37:40 PM
A couple of thoughts

I was really impressed with Blake Corum and his ability early in the game to find little holes in the line where the typical RB might only get a short gain.  A few more games like he has had the last 2 weeks and he will definitely be in the Heisman discussion.

Iowa did not lose the game just because of penalties.  It was pretty obvious Mich was the dominant team start to finish,  but some of the penalties called on Iowa did not help its chances .  Iowa probably needed to play a perfect game  to beat Michigan, which includes  getting no penalties.  If Iowa was ever going to come back,  it had to play penalty free to have a chance.
Corum is the best back in the B1G imo. He reminds me of a jacked up Mike Hart with home run speed- which is basically the only thing Hart lacked- Hart was slow as sh*t. Corum is a complete back, he can protect the passer and catch the ball as well- he runs hard between the tackles effectively and picks up the tough yards- and then when he's got any daylight he's got the legit 4.4 speed to hit the home run.

Donovan Edwards had some nice plays- and he's just getting worked back into things. By the end of the season that 1-2 punch at RB for Michigan should be phenomenal. 
Title: Re: #4 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Iowa (1-1, 3-2) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 02, 2022, 03:48:24 PM
another thought: pretty disappointed with the development of DE/OLB Braiden McGregor. Thought he'd at least show something during these first 5 games- and he's basically shown nothing. Had a couple of nice pass rushes that didn't lead to hits or sacks vs the cupcake OOC slate- but that's about it. He's basically done next to nothing whenever he's been in the games.

This kid was an early OMG 5 STARZ who fell in the rankings because of an injury which caused him to miss his entire SR year of HS- but still wound up a top 100 recruit in the 247Composite- which if you're inside the top 100- you're a big-time recruit imo. Obviously the OMG 5 STARZ! are the cream of the crop- but if you're in that top 100- you're suppose to be pretty damn good. So far- nothing. Not a good sign for him- or for Michigan's defense. They really needed him to step up and be the player everyone thought he could become coming out of high school.