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Title: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: Hawkinole on September 19, 2022, 07:13:18 PM
This is a good matchup. Iowa's defense and special teams are elite units.  Defensively, Iowa gives up 194.7 YPG (3rd in Big Ten); Rutgers gives up 240.3 YPG (4th in Big Ten). Iowa has given up one (1) offensive touchdown; Rutgers has given up six (6) offensive touchdowns.

Iowa and Rutgers have extremely good Australian punters.
Both teams are down in the quarterbacking department. Rutgers has the 13th best offense YPG in the Big Ten; Iowa's offense is 14th best YPG.
It is a primetime game in Piscataway, which gives Rutgers, an advantage.


Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0)
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on September 20, 2022, 07:44:45 AM
I can imagine that the final score will look something like 4 to 2. ;) 
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0)
Post by: Temp430 on September 20, 2022, 07:52:02 AM
As Abba suggested, if you watch this game your a masochist.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0)
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 09:16:32 AM
I'll probably have it on TV2.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0)
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 10:04:00 AM
I might watch, just so I can have some input with my neighbors after the game
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2022, 09:58:33 AM

Iowa Hawkeyes (2-1) at Rutgers Scarlet Knights (3-0)
7:00 - Piscataway, NJ - FS1
This one is for the sickos.  Rutgers and Iowa are both in the top 3 or 4 of the Big Ten in all of the traditional defensive stats, while ranking #13 and #14 in offensive ypg.  Spencer Petras showed some signs of life for the first time all season in Iowa's 27-0 win over Nevada.  The bar was low, considering he was completing just 45% of his passes, for 100 passing ypg, no touchdowns and 2 picks.  But he nearly doubled is ypa from the Cy-Hawk loss the week before, and considering how bad Iowa has been running the ball, Petras needs to at least be serviceable, particularly against the Rutgers front seven.  The Scarlet Knights lead the Big Ten in run defense in ypc, while the Iowa offense ranks #14 in the stat.  Getting back three receivers from injuries can't be overlooked as a factor either, there is something tangible to point to in Petras' performance.  While Rutgers' raw defensive numbers pop, their opponents can't be overlooked as a factor.  While Iowa sits #4 nationally in defensive SP+, Rutgers remains #38, which is actually 10 spots lower than a Mississippi State defense that just gave up 21 4th quarter points to LSU; 5 spots lower than a Michigan State defense that just got shredded; and 2 spots lower than Arkansas, which just gave up 27 to FCS Missouri State.  Rutgers' two FBS opponents (Boston College and Rutgers), actually put up more points against Rutgers than they did against their other FBS opponent.  And while Iowa's offense appears to be getting healthy, and trending in the right direction, Rutgers' offense is doing the opposite.  They failed to score an offensive touchdown in beating Temple 16-14, with three field goals and a defensive touchdown.  I questioned last week whether Schiano would eventually go from Gavin Wimsatt to Evan Simon at quarterback, but that he appeared to prefer Wimsatt's ceiling.  Well, Simon got more of the playing time Saturday, and 9-15 for 52 yards doesn't really signal that it was because he was doing anything to win it.  In fact, it was his worst game.  The play design has to help him.  Aron Cruickshank caught 5 passes...for 18 yards.  For an athlete with that talent and burst, that's almost impossible to design.  This one's in Piscataway, but that hasn't seemed to help Rutgers lately, who hasn't won a Big Ten home game in 5 years.
IOWA 20, RUTGERS 13

Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: RatTalksBigTen on September 21, 2022, 10:17:45 AM
Did seeing some of Iowa's offensive pieces come back and put up 27 against Nevada give them any hope? Or do you think it was sort of a fluke? Will returning wide receivers and an efficient game from RB Johnson be enough offense against another B1G defense? What are your guys' thoughts and what should I know about the Rutgers? 
feel free to start some discussion on my new twitter as well :)  thanks 
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Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 21, 2022, 10:19:04 AM
welcome aboard
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 23, 2022, 03:21:37 PM
https://twitter.com/RFootball/status/1573356960291889153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1573356960291889153%7Ctwgr%5Ef918265e45345547671448fbc58dd5a71e12a1f8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmichiganstate.boards.net%2Fthread%2F3112%2Ftofficial-college-football-season-thread%3Fpage%3D6
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2022, 03:32:10 PM
Iowa 6
Rutgers 4

in double OT ...
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 23, 2022, 03:46:00 PM
https://twitter.com/RFootball/status/1573356960291889153?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1573356960291889153%7Ctwgr%5Ef918265e45345547671448fbc58dd5a71e12a1f8%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmichiganstate.boards.net%2Fthread%2F3112%2Ftofficial-college-football-season-thread%3Fpage%3D6
everyone looking for a chance to watch the offensive fireworks!
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 23, 2022, 03:54:36 PM
Iowa 6
Rutgers 4

in double OT ...
I had to think about it but I'm fairly certain that is not mathematically possible. 

I guess if Rutgers somehow gave up a safety on a drive that started at the Iowa 25.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2022, 03:59:16 PM
It is possible, though obviously unlikely.  You can give up a safety starting at the oppo's 25 yard line.  Think about a fumble that gets dived on repeatedly and simply ejected further backwards after perhaps a 15 yard sack.

Finally it gets covered in the end zone by the offense ...
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 23, 2022, 04:16:36 PM
and it happens twice in both overtimes

I don't think 6-4 is possible in double OT
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2022, 04:46:39 PM
Sure it is, they don't score at all in OT One.  They tie after regular 4-4.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 23, 2022, 05:13:23 PM
there ya go

I was thinking 0-0 tie after reg

was never good with math - was a hindrance whilst in the College of Engineering
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 23, 2022, 07:34:15 PM
I had to think about it but I'm fairly certain that is not mathematically possible.

I guess if Rutgers somehow gave up a safety on a drive that started at the Iowa 25.

It is mathemagically possible, but very unlikely. That said, consider:

2004/10/23  Iowa 6 - Penn State    4
1939/11/04  Iowa 4 - Purdue    0

Iowa has been involved in some defensive baseball score battles.

 











Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2022, 07:41:53 AM
I would guess a safety has never been scored in OT in any football game.  
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2022, 07:43:29 AM
gee, I don't know

I might have to take that wager

some pretty wacky things happen 

we are on the Hawkeye/Knights thread
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2022, 08:28:07 AM
Maybe in high school?
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Kris60 on September 24, 2022, 09:00:33 AM
Maybe in high school?
Be pretty tough in HS too.  When I played in HS possessions in OT started at the opponents’ 10.  I was at a game a couple weeks ago and they now start at the OPP 20.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2022, 09:04:35 AM
HS would be a much larger universe obviously.  I still doubt a safety has ever happened on the record in OT.

It would be neat if one had though.

Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2022, 09:05:39 AM
Only three regular-season NFL games have ever ended in overtime with a safety: in 1989 when the Minnesota Vikings defeated the Los Angeles Rams 23–21 when Mike Merriweather blocked a punt into the end zone, in 2004 when the Chicago Bears defeated the Tennessee Titans 19–17 when Billy Volek fumbled in his own end zone ...

I forgot the NFL rules are different.

Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2022, 01:56:59 PM
the Norse division rules
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2022, 11:41:43 PM
The Iowa defense outscored the Iowa offense 14-13, and outscored Rutgers 14-10.
Rutgers had 361 total yards which was a lot for the Iowa defense to give up.
Iowa's offense had 277-yards, which is not bad considering this offense is one of FBS's worst offenses. But it is still bad considering other offenses in the FBS.
Iowa's kicker, Drew Stevens, started the year as 2nd team kicker. Today, he kicked 2 field goals, and for his final field goal used the entire width of the goal posts to bank it in off the left goal post from 51-yards. Iowa has a history of winning games the past 40 years thanks to late field goals, so this is a good omen for Iowa.
Coming into this one, I thought Rutgers had about an even chance of winning. By the 4th quarter you would not have known it was a sell-out in Piscataway.

Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 25, 2022, 12:01:39 AM
Technically a scoreless tie could reach a third (+) overtime under the new rules where you just alternate 2-point conversion tries after that, so you could score a 1-point safety, and win 1-0.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: LittlePig on September 25, 2022, 07:54:10 AM
This game reminded me a lot of the Iowa-MD game last year.  Iowa heading to east coast early in conference play with a solid defense and doubts about offense.  Defense has key takeaways and scores early.  Iowa's offense looks surprisingly effective when it gets a lead,  and Iowa goes on to dominant victory.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: LittlePig on September 25, 2022, 07:58:22 AM
I think on the Iowa message boards there was a pre-season poll how many games would the defense actually out-score the offense.  I think the consensus was 2 games,  but some were arguing it could be as many as 4 games. 

Now I am thinking it could be as many as 6 games this year where the defense outscores the offense.
Title: Re: Iowa (2-1) at Rutgers (3-0) Game Week - Post-Game
Post by: FearlessF on September 25, 2022, 09:36:13 AM
Technically a scoreless tie could reach a third (+) overtime under the new rules where you just alternate 2-point conversion tries after that, so you could score a 1-point safety, and win 1-0.
well, in that case it's easy to get to.......


Iowa 6
Rutgers 4
but, not in double OT ...