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Title: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 19, 2022, 04:36:23 PM
Slightly off topic, but worth discussing...

Was perusing though another fan board (texags.com) earlier and it was noted that A&M has not played a Big Ten team since 1975 at home.  We've had home/away with current B1G teams, but none that were actually in the B1G at the time we played.  We beat Penn St at their house in '80, and they returned the favor in '81 or thereabouts.  Apparently we've had home/home games scheduled but they either backed out, got cancelled, or for whatever reason never occurred.  Mich St and Indiana are mentioned as games that were scheduled but never occurred. 

Obviously we've played Big 10 teams in Bowl games over the years, but only once since 1975 has a current Big 10 team come to College Station to play.  It was posted that the 1975 Illinois game is the only Big 10 team ever to visit College Station.  If true, then Wow !

They said that the Penn St vs Auburn game is the first time Penn State has ever played at Auburn.  I know these games don't happen very often, but it sure would seem like there would be a few here and there.  Is this normal that the B1G teams just don't hardly venture south for non-conference games, and vice versa for SEC teams going north?  I remember Tx/OSU playing a home/home game in the mid 2000's, but I really don't recall if the SEC/XII/B1G ever mixing it up much? 

Throughout my time as a fan we've played the PAC multiple times, ACC, no B1G teams, not many SEC that I can remember, ND, as well as a bunch of Ball State/Kent State types.  

Just thought it was interesting. 



Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2022, 04:48:07 PM
I'd love to see aTm play in Madison. The favor would no doubt be returned.

SEC teams do not like playing up there. LSU was the last one, in 1971.

LSU did come to the state in 2016, but that was at Lambeau.

Bama is coming to Madison in 2025.

Big name schools generally just don't come.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 19, 2022, 05:05:42 PM
Cool site in case you're interested. 

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/txam/big10.shtml#games

So we've played in Ann Arbor twice, Columbus twice, and I think Purdue played at Kyle Field in the 60's.  Not sure why those were all away games, but possibly because A&M was really such a small school back in those days we probably didn't have the swag to get a return game. 

Not a lot of B1G/A&M history. 


(N) 2011/12/31  Texas A&M       33 - Northwestern    22 W    !! Meineke Car Care Bowl !!
     (N) 2007/12/29  Texas A&M       17 - Penn State      24 L    !! Alamo Bowl !!          
     (N) 1999/12/28  Texas A&M        0 - Penn State      24 L    !! Alamo Bowl !!          
     (N) 1999/01/01  Texas A&M       14 - Ohio State      24 L    !! Sugar Bowl !!          
     (N) 1995/12/28  Texas A&M       22 - Michigan        20 W    !! Alamo Bowl !!          
     (N) 1987/01/01  Texas A&M       12 - Ohio State      28 L    !! Cotton Bowl !!         
     (A) 1977/10/01  Texas A&M        3 - Michigan        41 L                              
     (A) 1976/10/02  Texas A&M       14 - Illinois         7 W                              
     (H) 1975/09/27  Texas A&M       43 - Illinois        13 W                              
     (A) 1970/10/03  Texas A&M       10 - Michigan        14 L                              
     (A) 1970/09/26  Texas A&M       13 - Ohio State      56 L                              
     (H) 1967/09/23  Texas A&M       20 - Purdue          24 L                              
     (A) 1963/09/28  Texas A&M        0 - Ohio State      17 L                              
     (A) 1959/09/26  Texas A&M        9 - Michigan State   7 W                              
     (H) 1931/10/10  Texas A&M       29 - Iowa             0 W             



So in over 100 years of football we've had Purdue and Illinois play at Kyle Field, and obviously the only other games were at Ann Arbor and Columbus.  

I stand corrected, I left out Iowa in 1931.  


Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: rolltidefan on September 19, 2022, 05:44:42 PM
I'd love to see aTm play in Madison. The favor would no doubt be returned.

SEC teams do not like playing up there. LSU was the last one, in 1971.

LSU did come to the state in 2016, but that was at Lambeau.

Bama is coming to Madison in 2025.

Big name schools generally just don't come.
hey, bama has played in madison before... in 1928. lost 15-0, shh don't tell.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 19, 2022, 09:15:13 PM
SEC teams played other P5 teams a lot more often (including B1G) before expansion in 1992.  That seems to have limited the practice a lot.

Not Florida, as we play FSU every year and up to 1987, Miami as well.  When those are 2 of your OOC foes, you don't go looking for home-and-homes with Michigan and Ohio State.  But the Gators did play @ Syracuse in '91 and hosted Oklahoma State in '90.  

But it was a different world back then, with at least a dozen big-name programs being independent back then.  

The SEC teams with OOC rivals tended to host 1-offs post 1992.  Especially the programs with a secondary OOC rival (like Florida....and Georgia with GT and Clemson).  Another reason UGA and UF didn't partake was their annual neutral site game.  In doing some research, it looks like UGA hosted Texas Tech a few times in the 90s, but didn't return the favor.  Once you have an OOC rival, a secondary one you want to play as often as possible, and forfeit half a home game every season, you're not signing up to go to Iowa City.  

As for other SEC schools, I'd have to do some more research.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 19, 2022, 09:19:20 PM
This made me think of a go-to regional OOC opponent teams tended to utilize more often than their fair share.  In the SEC, through the 80s and 90s, it was Southern Miss.  
Everyone played Southern Miss, every few years, it seemed.  They were a decent program - wouldn't usually threaten to beat you, but would always put up a good fight.  They even beat a highly-ranked FSU team in one season-opener.  
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Was there a program like that for B1G teams?  A particular independent or G5 midwestern school that everyone seemed to schedule a little more often than one would assume?
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 19, 2022, 09:30:16 PM
This made me think of a go-to regional OOC opponent teams tended to utilize more often than their fair share.  In the SEC, through the 80s and 90s, it was Southern Miss. 
Everyone played Southern Miss, every few years, it seemed.  They were a decent program - wouldn't usually threaten to beat you, but would always put up a good fight.  They even beat a highly-ranked FSU team in one season-opener. 
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Was there a program like that for B1G teams?  A particular independent or G5 midwestern school that everyone seemed to schedule a little more often than one would assume?
Notre Dame.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 19, 2022, 09:35:15 PM
It was certainly an interesting dynamic back then - having independents needing to fill 11 scheduling spots every year.  ND had their infamous series with Miami, but also played an exciting pair of games with Tennessee, LSU, and even a home-and-home with Vanderbilt in the 90s.
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I hadn't considered ND, thanks.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2022, 09:35:35 PM
since 2011 when the Huskers joined the 10

Washington, Oregon, UCLA, So. Miss, Miami, Colorado, Oklahoma

As I said on another thread - probably won't see the Sooners again, unfortunately
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 19, 2022, 09:39:26 PM
Nebraska has historically wedded itself to a H&H w Pac 12 team.  They've played a Pac12 team about 40 times over the past 40 years.   I think Stanford is only Pac 12 team they have not played in that time.

Last SEC reg season games were Bama late 70s and Auburn early 80s.  A couple ACC sets w VT and Wake this century.

otherwise Nebraska loved playing all those old Independents, especially FSU and Penn St and So Car.  They have played USM a bunch too, even once at Hattiesburg. 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 19, 2022, 09:43:22 PM
We played Southern Miss a few times in the 90’s. I think we even played them when Favre was there. 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2022, 09:48:58 PM
Huskers have to go back to 75 & 76 LSU, 77 & 78 Bama, 81 & 82 Auburn

4 - 1 -1 in those 6

beat South Carolina in 1964
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2022, 09:50:43 PM
Nebraska has historically wedded itself to a H&H w Pac 12 team.  They've played a Pac12 team about 40 times over the past 40 years.  I think Stanford is only Pac 12 team they have not played in that time.

Last SEC reg season games were Bama late 70s and Auburn early 80s.  A couple ACC sets w VT and Wake this century.

otherwise Nebraska loved playing all those old Independents, especially FSU and Penn St and So Car.  They have played USM a bunch too, even once at Hattiesburg.
and a bunch of Big Ten programs
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 19, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
Just for grins I looked up the same info for UT. Very similar results. 


Texas vs. Big Ten: BY BIG TEN TEAM (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/tx/big10.shtml#opp) : BY DECADE (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/tx/big10.shtml#dec) : BY YEAR (http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/tvc/tx/big10.shtml#year) : GAME RESULTS
      -- home(H) / away(A) / neutral(N) from the perspective of Texas --

                                        BIG TEN TEAM
     (N) 2018/09/01  Texas         29 - Maryland      34 L                     
     (H) 2017/09/02  Texas         41 - Maryland      51 L                     
     (N) 2009/01/05  Texas         24 - Ohio State    21 W    !! Fiesta Bowl !!
     (N) 2006/12/30  Texas         26 - Iowa          24 W    !! Alamo Bowl !! 
     (H) 2006/09/09  Texas          7 - Ohio State    24 L                     
     (A) 2005/09/10  Texas         25 - Ohio State    22 W                     
     (N) 2005/01/01  Texas         38 - Michigan      37 W    !! Rose Bowl !!  
     (N) 1997/01/01  Texas         15 - Penn State    38 L    !! Fiesta Bowl !!
     (N) 1984/12/26  Texas         17 - Iowa          55 L    !! Freedom Bowl !!
     (H) 1966/10/01  Texas         35 - Indiana        0 W                     
     (H) 1965/10/02  Texas         27 - Indiana       12 W                     
     (A) 1951/09/29  Texas         14 - Purdue         0 W                     
     (H) 1950/09/30  Texas         34 - Purdue        26 W                     
     (A) 1942/10/03  Texas          0 - Northwestern   3 L                     
     (A) 1940/10/05  Texas         13 - Indiana        6 W                     
     (A) 1939/10/07  Texas         17 - Wisconsin      7 W                     
     (A) 1936/11/14  Texas         19 - Minnesota     47 L                     
     (A) 1904/11/05  Texas          0 - Chicago       68 L                     






Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 19, 2022, 09:55:46 PM
Iowa, Mich St, Minnesota often, and IL in the 80s/90s.

Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 19, 2022, 09:58:24 PM
I did a query from 1980-1999 for Florida.
These are the only P5-level home-and-home instances, aside from FSU and Miami:
Syracuse
Georgia Tech
USC
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Some 1-offs:
Rutgers
Maryland
Louisville (twice)
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That's it.  But again, Florida had a unique situation with 2 big-name in-state OOC rivals plus an annual neutral game.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 19, 2022, 10:52:20 PM
Pretty sure OSU had one on the docket vs Tennessee, but it never materialized for whatever reason. Or maybe it was Georgia. 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2022, 11:01:26 PM
Yeah it's definitely been pretty rare for Texas to schedule the B10, historically we tend to schedule a lot more PAC and SEC schools.  And of course we played OU as an OOC game for almost 100 years before 1996.

But coming up we have:

2024: Michigan
2025: Ohio State
2026: Ohio State
2027: Michigan

I'm definitely looking forward to those.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2022, 11:04:35 PM
I suppose it's possible some of those go away with SEC scheduling
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 19, 2022, 11:09:17 PM
What? Texas scheduling Texas Tech out of conference on the final week of the regular season, after an FCS game and a bye week the two weeks before? 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 19, 2022, 11:11:18 PM
no

the UTSA ROADRUNNERS
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 20, 2022, 01:05:02 AM
Ok, I'm bored and curious: Nebraska OOC games since '80

Big Ten as NC games 19
Illinois 85, 86
Iowa: 80, 81, 82, 99, 00
Mich St: 95, 96
Minn: 83, 84, 89, 90
PSU: 80, 81, 82, 83 (Kickoff Classic) all as Independent, 02, 03 as BIG

misc MAC/ND: 9
Akron: 97
Ball St: 07
No Ill: 89, 90, 17, 19
Notre Dame: 00, 01
WMU: 08

SWC: 4
Baylor: 90
Tex Tech: 93, 94
A&M: 88 (Kickoff Classic)

WAC/MTN/etc.: 30
Rice 01
TCU 01
SJSU 00, 08
Wyo: 83, 84, 94, 11, 13, 16
Pacific: 94, 95 (dropped football)
Utah St: 87, 88, 91, 02, 03
Nevada: 07
New Mex: 85
NMSU: 82, 08
BYU: 15
Colo St: 91, 93, 96
Fresno St: 11, 14, 16
Hawaii 82
UNLV: 88

Pac:  39 excluding two bowl games
AZ: two recent bowl games only
ASU: 87, 88, 91, 92, 95, 96, 02
Cal: 98, 99
Colo: 18, 19
Oregon: 85, 86, 16, 17
Oregon St: 89, 90
Southern Cal: 06, 07
Stanford: none since '41 Rose
UCLA: 83, 84, 87, 88, 93, 94, 12, 13
Utah: 87, 88, 91, 02, 03
Wash: 91, 92, 97, 98, 10, 11
Wazzu: 95

SEC 4
Auburn: 81, 82
So Carolina 86,87 as Independent
misc: Southern teams: 15
USM: 99, 03, 04, 12, 13, 15
Troy: 01, 02, 03, 06, 18
La Tech: 98, 06
UAB 98
UCF 97

Ind/Big East/
ACC: 15
Fla St: 80, 81, 85, 86, (all in Lincoln)
Miami: 14, 15
Pitt: 04, 05
Syracuse: 83, 84 (independent)
VA Tech: 08, 09
Wake: 05, 07
West Virginia: 94 (Kickoff Classic)

excluded: lower level FCS, etc. which noticeably didn’t begin to appear on schedule until 2004 when Western Illinois was on schedule.   a couple isolated UNT, and MTSU games appeared in 90s.  
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2022, 01:49:11 AM
UGA traveled to Atlanta this year …
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 08:50:12 AM
I suppose it's possible some of those go away with SEC scheduling

Doubt it.  We're already going to have to find replacements for home-and-home series scheduled against Georgia and Florida at the end of the decade.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 08:52:41 AM
Doubt it.  We're already going to have to find replacements for home-and-home series scheduled against Georgia and Florida at the end of the decade.
Howdy.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 09:03:14 AM
Howdy.
You know I'm all for it!

Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 09:15:31 AM
Will need to replace UCLA for 2029 and 2030.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 09:19:58 AM
Will need to replace UCLA for 2029 and 2030.
We'll be replacing Georgia in 2029 and Florida in 2030, so let's call our respective ADs and make it so!
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 20, 2022, 09:20:57 AM
Pretty sure OSU had one on the docket vs Tennessee, but it never materialized for whatever reason. Or maybe it was Georgia.
I'm pretty sure it was actually both. I was planning to go to the game in Knoxville but it fell through. I was considering UGA as well. 

Both are not too far:

Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 10:02:32 AM
don't think SEC and Big Ten are allowed to schedule

especially going forward
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 10:20:45 AM
don't think SEC and Big Ten are allowed to schedule

especially going forward
Which is a shame.  What a stupid direction college football has taken.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 10:23:07 AM
well, as show up thread

there's not a strong history of scheduling between conferences in the past

with TV rivalries and such, probably less chance going forward

but, as always, we have BOWL season!
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 10:33:02 AM
well, as show up thread

there's not a strong history of scheduling between conferences in the past

with TV rivalries and such, probably less chance going forward

but, as always, we have BOWL season!

Horns were actually moving the other direction though.  Home-and-home against Ohio State back in 2005/6, the more recent series against Maryland (ugh), and then 2024--2027 against Michigan and Ohio State.  But I'm afraid that after those series are done, the new conference stand-off btw B1G and SEC, will prohibit or limit further engagements.

Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 20, 2022, 10:38:14 AM
Horns were actually moving the other direction though.  Home-and-home against Ohio State back in 2005/6, the more recent series against Maryland (ugh), and then 2024--2027 against Michigan and Ohio State.  But I'm afraid that after those series are done, the new conference stand-off btw B1G and SEC, will prohibit or limit further engagements.
Wait, is that really a thing?  Conference stand-off between SEC and B1G?  

What did I miss here.  Besides, from a general glance, I don't think the B1G ever really played in the Southeast before either.  
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 10:39:32 AM
Ed Zachery

It's not good, because the PAC and what's left of the Big 12 don't lend to great recruiting
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 10:40:42 AM
Wait, is that really a thing?  Conference stand-off between SEC and B1G? 

What did I miss here.  Besides, from a general glance, I don't think the B1G ever really played in the Southeast before either. 
Well there's certainly a growing level of animosity between the two conferences, currently.  And speaking specifically about Texas, which has made obvious recent moves to schedule the B1G more often, I'm expressing concern that this animosity will affect our potential for scheduling B1G teams in the future.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 20, 2022, 10:46:57 AM
Well there's certainly a growing level of animosity between the two conferences, currently.  And speaking specifically about Texas, which has made obvious recent moves to schedule the B1G more often, I'm expressing concern that this animosity will affect our potential for scheduling B1G teams in the future.
I honestly didn't realize that.  I really felt like it was animosity between the B1G/SEC vs the ACC/PAC/Big 12.  Because we're going to the Power 2...and the rest.  So if anything, the SEC and B1G is set, what do they have against each other?  You can't possibly get any bigger or richer....there's nothing left on the table to take.  And I seriously doubt any schools will be switching from either conference.  
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 10:48:56 AM
money, power, and ego

SEC vs Big Ten
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 10:52:17 AM
I honestly didn't realize that.  I really felt like it was animosity between the B1G/SEC vs the ACC/PAC/Big 12.  Because we're going to the Power 2...and the rest.  So if anything, the SEC and B1G is set, what do they have against each other?  You can't possibly get any bigger or richer....there's nothing left on the table to take.  And I seriously doubt any schools will be switching from either conference. 
This is my take too.

It's the Power Two sooner than later. I don't think schools which switch between the two, but I could see the Power Two kicking schools out.

Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 11:03:26 AM
Why would the B1G or SEC feel any animosity toward the PAC, B12, ACC?  There's no rivalry there.  There's no competition.

As a fan of a B12 school watching all of this unfold over the past decade+, I never felt like the SEC or B1G felt animosity toward the B12.  My perception is, they don't feel ANYTHING at all.  It's all just business, exclusive of emotion.  Those other 3 conferences are viewed by the B1G and SEC as being solely for consumption.

But I most definitely perceive a rivalry between the SEC and B1G.  Perhaps that will stabilize and go away, once the TX/OU and UCLA/USC moves are complete and the dust settles a little bit.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 20, 2022, 11:05:53 AM
You're right.  There is no animosity between the B1G/SEC to the power 3 (uncapitalized !).  There animosity is from the power 3 towards the Power 2. I should have clarified my statement.  

My take is that the power 3 server as buffer between the SEC and B1G.  Fodder for the CFP.  So far the only exception is Clemson, who will soon be part of the SEC.  I forget, how many teams in the new B1G?  I guess the SEC is up to 16 with OU/Tex, how many is in the B1G after expansion?  
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2022, 11:07:26 AM
You're right.  There is no animosity between the B1G/SEC to the power 3 (uncapitalized !).  There animosity is from the power 3 towards the Power 2. 
Well sure.  How could there not be?
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2022, 11:07:44 AM
UGA has a series with OSU
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 11:36:15 AM
possibly in jeopardy 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 11:38:48 AM
You're right.  There is no animosity between the B1G/SEC to the power 3 (uncapitalized !).  There animosity is from the power 3 towards the Power 2. I should have clarified my statement. 

My take is that the power 3 server as buffer between the SEC and B1G.  Fodder for the CFP.  So far the only exception is Clemson, who will soon be part of the SEC.  I forget, how many teams in the new B1G?  I guess the SEC is up to 16 with OU/Tex, how many is in the B1G after expansion? 
Same. 16.

Look at the logo below. B1G? B16?


(https://i.imgur.com/y0P5qV9.png)
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 20, 2022, 11:44:45 AM
so, Clemson and ND?

or is Clemson just left out

16 will be a good number until the number 18 is better
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 11:50:21 AM
It's gonna be 20.

B20

ND, Stanford, Washington, FSU, Oregon, Miami all possibilities.

Warren wants to be in Florida. This is known.

If you get Stanford, the B1G has a whole lot of ND's rivalries. Like, all of them. Except Miami.. and some G5 powder puffs.
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Gigem on September 20, 2022, 12:43:38 PM
I get the feeling ND will stay independent.  I don't know how and where they will get the money to compete, but IMHO if they were going to join a conference they would've done it already.  
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2022, 12:52:32 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ddm494n.png)
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: ELA on September 23, 2022, 10:06:53 PM
Right on cue

https://twitter.com/On3sports/status/1573470176883900426?t=BE9q_3v_Iyj-zU2hPCuSgQ&s=19
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: MarqHusker on September 23, 2022, 10:44:11 PM
Woo hoo.    Let's end the season with 4 Neutral site games in a row.   Fans can't wait for that spend. 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: FearlessF on September 23, 2022, 10:47:11 PM
slim pickins if the bowls are relegated to start with #13 vs #14 
Title: Re: B1G vs SEC Home Games
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2022, 07:38:52 AM
There will be a couple of decent teams left out because they'll include some pretty bad 12-1 G5 teams or so.  You could see a 11-2 Penn State left out with a solid team, for example.  Maybe.