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Title: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 17, 2018, 01:38:48 PM
We probably need The Bobs for this, but folks here have a lot of knowledge as well.

I'm going to note the 1971 season when three teams from the same conference ended up 1-2-3 in the final AP poll.

And that conference had only 8 teams.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 17, 2018, 02:22:55 PM
UNL
OU
CU
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2018, 08:29:01 PM
I don't mean to sound homerish, but the SEC winning 7 consecutive natties is something....the previous record was 3, I believe.  Add the fact it was accomplished by 4 different schools is also noteworthy.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 17, 2018, 09:36:47 PM
Some of those were gifts. At least one, anyway.


#Rematch


#Mythical
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 17, 2018, 10:39:25 PM
(https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-19-at-7.03.44-AM.png)
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2018, 11:32:06 PM
Thanks for keeping it mature, guys.  
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2018, 11:33:47 PM
Some of those were gifts. At least one, anyway.


#Rematch


#Mythical
Big believer in '11 Okie State and their 61st-ranked scoring defense are we?
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2018, 09:45:06 AM
If we're being homerish, how about 1946?

UGA finishes 11-0. the only undefeated team after the bowls in major CFB, and finished third in the AP behind two teams with a tie each.

Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2018, 10:09:44 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46610-strange-but-true-things-you-may-not-know-about-college-footballs-top-25

http://www.maysville-online.com/news/opinion/blogs/sports_perspectives_with_ron_bailey/strange-but-true-college-football-facts/article_f864e598-eb5c-11df-a331-001cc4c002e0.html

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-True-Football-Stories-Library/dp/0394801989

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13503957/college-football-stadium-oddities

Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: fezzador on February 19, 2018, 01:36:13 PM
I don't mean to sound homerish, but the SEC winning 7 consecutive natties is something....the previous record was 3, I believe.  Add the fact it was accomplished by 4 different schools is also noteworthy.
What's insane is that Georgia is not one of those schools.  It probably has the best recruiting advantage of any school in the country, but they still couldn't get over the hump.

That said, Kirby Smart is brewing something special in Athens.  He'll win a natty sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: rolltidefan on February 19, 2018, 02:35:14 PM
If we're being homerish, how about 1946?

UGA finishes 11-0. the only undefeated team after the bowls in major CFB, and finished third in the AP behind two teams with a tie each.


or 1966, 2 time defending national champ bama starts preseason #1, goes 11-0, end #3 behind nd and msu, who tied each other and didn't go bowling. only time a preseason #1 went undefeated, won bowl and didn't win title. also would have been first and only 3-peat.
another fun fact, with the ruling last week of nd vacating 21 wins, nd now will be able to break 900 wins for the second time. that's unique.
speaking of 900, texas (2 wins), alabama (9 wins), ohio state (2 wins), nebraska (7 wins), oklahoma (16 wins) and as mentioned nd (14 wins) all have a chance to break 900 next season.
also speaking of wins and win%, not counting vacations and forfeitures, but actual game results, bama is now 2nd in total wins (920) and 2nd in win% (mich leads both). and if bama finished just 1 game better than mich next season (11-1 vs 10-2, etc.) then bama will take over #1 in win% (actual results, not ncaa official).
i know, 'but you cheated, so count the official results', blah blah. as big of a problem as we had in the albert means case (the so called almost death penalty case), they didn't remove any wins. we lost wins because of a db drunkenly "signed with an agent" on a napkin the night after winning the 1992 title vs miami, and then again in mid 2000's for 4-5 kids sharing/buying girlfriends textbooks. both ridiculous, imo, similar to osu tattoo thing.
bobs or anyone else, correct those #s if wrong. most was based on memory and quick official record book search.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2018, 08:30:42 AM
What's insane is that Georgia is not one of those schools.  It probably has the best recruiting advantage of any school in the country, but they still couldn't get over the hump.

That said, Kirby Smart is brewing something special in Athens.  He'll win a natty sooner rather than later.

Georgia has been very close several times in the BCS era, but never over the hump.  It has been a bit frustrating, but for me personally, winning an NC doesn't change my life.  I try and enjoy the game for what it is.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: MrNubbz on February 20, 2018, 10:36:41 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/46610-strange-but-true-things-you-may-not-know-about-college-footballs-top-25

http://www.maysville-online.com/news/opinion/blogs/sports_perspectives_with_ron_bailey/strange-but-true-college-football-facts/article_f864e598-eb5c-11df-a331-001cc4c002e0.html

https://www.amazon.com/Strange-True-Football-Stories-Library/dp/0394801989

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/13503957/college-football-stadium-oddities


I read Strange but true Football Stories back when i was a kid.Wrong way Riegels,one college team winning 222-0,Rockne's win one for the Gipper.Good Book
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 20, 2018, 02:23:46 PM
The GT 222-0 win is remarkable indeed.  Apparently Cumberland was just punting every time they got the ball at some point.  I'd guess today the game would just be stopped at 100-0 or so, or the winning team would be taking a knee.

What is the most unbalanced score in "modern" history?  Has anyone hit 100 since?

I think we just had a game with a very high total score with OT, right?  FCS?
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 20, 2018, 02:48:56 PM
I've curb-stomped GA Tech's 222-0 record on my X-Box. And that was with five minute quarters.

I have no idea what the final tally was. It stopped keeping track at 256-0. And that milestone was reached in the third quarter.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 20, 2018, 04:18:57 PM
I always like this "strange but true" tidbit (from Wikipedia):

Syracuse defensive back Diamond Ferri displayed one of the most impressive two way performances of the modern football era, playing on offense at running back and on defense at safety in a victory against Boston College in 2004. Playing in nearly every down he ran the ball 28 times for 141 yards and two touchdowns on offense and sealed the upset victory with an interception return for touchdown late in the game.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 20, 2018, 04:57:22 PM
The GT 222-0 win is remarkable indeed.  Apparently Cumberland was just punting every time they got the ball at some point.  I'd guess today the game would just be stopped at 100-0 or so, or the winning team would be taking a knee.

What is the most unbalanced score in "modern" history?  Has anyone hit 100 since?

I think we just had a game with a very high total score with OT, right?  FCS?
Teams scoring 70 used to be more common - top 10 schools vs. one of their directional cupcake schools about once every other season.  I know some of those UNL/OU wishbone teams would smoke someone outmanned and put up 80.  I think Florida beat CMU one year 82-6.  
In the modern game when things get stupid out-of-hand, they go with a running clock.  
Nebraska beat Minny 84-13 in the mid-80s.  I don't know how you'd prove it, but I'd bet someone a dollar that the worst P5 aggregate scoring average all-time is Kansas'.  They've been hapless for decades and year after year after year lost like 70-3 to UNL and OU.  Almost never competing with those big-boys and hardly ever competing with anyone else.  
If you found every P5 school's all-time conference (or vs other P5) margin of victory average, Kansas' would be the worst.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 20, 2018, 05:05:19 PM
This gives me an idea for a new thread.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: SFBadger96 on February 20, 2018, 06:30:16 PM
In the blowout department, I think of 2010, when the Badgers hit or cleared 70 three times, including putting 83 on Indiana and 70 on Northwestern (I was at the Austin Peay game, the first 70-point outing). They only scored 48 against Michigan, but leading 24-0 at half, they didn't attempt a single pass in the second half.

In 2011, the Badgers scored 42+ nine times. They were 2-3 in games they scored fewer than 42: Their lowest scoring game 28 (Illinois, 17) was a win, but they lost in games they scored 29 (Ohio State, 33), 31 (MSU, 37), and 38 (the Rose Bowl vs. Oregon, 45), and they beat Oregon State 35-0.

And of course, there's the 2012 Big Ten Championship Wisconsin didn't belong in, but still hung 70 on Nebraska (and also didn't attempt a pass in the second half, only attempting 10 for the game).

These kinds of scores are serious outliers for Badger teams. Side note: no Badger team since 1959 has reached the Rose Bowl in a season it didn't score at least 50 points against at least one opponent. In '59, the Badgers only exceeded 25 once (44 vs. Marquette).
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: rolltidefan on February 20, 2018, 06:54:16 PM
The GT 222-0 win is remarkable indeed.  Apparently Cumberland was just punting every time they got the ball at some point.  I'd guess today the game would just be stopped at 100-0 or so, or the winning team would be taking a knee.

What is the most unbalanced score in "modern" history?  Has anyone hit 100 since?

I think we just had a game with a very high total score with OT, right?  FCS?
ncaa record books list wyoming defeating northern colorado 103-0 in 1949 as highest scoring game. would presumably be the largest mov for a modern game as well.

for highest score vs a major opponent (fbs), they list houston over tulsa 100-6 in 1968. i'd venture it's also the highest mov for win over fbs opp, but not are sure as i am on the one above.

interestingly, the most points scored by both teams (non-overtime games) only top wyoming/n colo by 1 point (104): byu vs san diego 52-52 in 1991, akron v eastern mich, 52-52 (before ot) in 2001 and unlv vs wyoming 52-52 (before ot) in 2016.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: SFBadger96 on February 20, 2018, 07:00:47 PM
Among those Badger blowouts mentioned above, total points were 103 vs. Indiana, 2010 (83-20), and 101 vs. Nebraska in the 2012 BTCG (70-31).
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: MarqHusker on February 20, 2018, 09:26:17 PM
Houston beat SMU 95-21, right after the death penalty years in the SWC.   That's the only big conference team I recall scoring 90+ in my lifetime.

Besides the aforementioned 80+ games upthread,  I recall Clemson w 82 vs Wake in the early 80s, and OU w 82 vs Colorado once.  OU administered more than one 77-0 wins in my lifetime.  Vs Missouri and A&m. Penn st hit 80+ against somebody, maybe Temple.

Yes, the all time NU score vs KU is 2969 to 1199.  91-21-3.  The worst was 70-0.
However, vs KSU it is 2635-999, 78-15-2.

In Billy Cs final year , Nebraska gave up a school record 76 points to KU and the next week scored 73 vs KSU. The only school to do that in consecutive games. 

I witnessed N score 70+ on OU, Arizona St. Iowa St twice, and Pacific.   63 at half of that ASU game.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: DevilFroggy on February 20, 2018, 11:59:53 PM
Of teams that faced each other in consecutive seasons has there ever been a bigger point swing in points allowed than ASU getting dinged by Nebraska to the tune of 77 points one season ('95) to completely shutting them out the next season?
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 21, 2018, 11:23:29 AM
I've curb-stomped GA Tech's 222-0 record on my X-Box. And that was with five minute quarters.

I have no idea what the final tally was. It stopped keeping track at 256-0. And that milestone was reached in the third quarter.
LOL, so NCAA Football on Xbox only uses a single byte for each team's score. Good to know :)
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 21, 2018, 11:24:55 AM
In 2011, the Badgers scored 42+ nine times. They were 2-3 in games they scored fewer than 42: Their lowest scoring game 28 (Illinois, 17) was a win, but they lost in games they scored 29 (Ohio State, 33), 31 (MSU, 37), and 38 (the Rose Bowl vs. Oregon, 45), and they beat Oregon State 35-0.

(https://nbchardballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/nine-times.gif)
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: GopherRock on February 21, 2018, 03:33:10 PM
Minnesota has more Big Ten football championships than anyone not named Michigan or Ohio State. 

Considering how awful the program has been in the last 50 years, that's saying something. 
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on February 21, 2018, 04:18:25 PM
Minnesota has more Big Ten football championships than anyone not named Michigan or Ohio State.

Considering how awful the program has been in the last 50 years, that's saying something.
In all honesty it is longer than that.  Minnesota did win two league titles (60, 67) and a MNC (60) in the 1960's but that was a blip compared to their real glory years.  Minnesota just never recovered after WWII.  
In 1941 Minnesota won their 16th league title and their sixth MNC.  At that point they led the league in conference titles and they were second to Michigan in MNC's.  
League titles through 1941:

MNC's for B1G teams through 1941:
In the 76 seasons since 1941 the Gophers have managed only two league titles (both shared) and one MNC.  
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 21, 2018, 05:18:04 PM
Luckily OSU only played Minnesota five times before 1941, compared to 46 times since 1941. 
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2018, 12:39:46 PM
The ebb and flow of football powers is rather interesting, I think.  FSU of course used to be a zero.

Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 22, 2018, 12:41:06 PM
The Gophers had the first Cheerleaders.

(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.thecheerleadingsource.com%2Fuploaded_images%2F1949-Cheerleader-764563.jpg&hash=fadc2bc79d44b152f4ca37a714a7c794)
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 22, 2018, 04:59:18 PM
I remember when many of us met in Austin for a game with Nebraska.  I was strolling around when I noticed the Texas cheerleaders standing around in their chaps.  They were quite purty.  Then a bus door opened and the Husker cheerleaders got off the bus, they were even purtier it seemed to me.  I was trying to eyeball a bit without being noticed.

I ended up staying at the tailgate with Gator and watching the UGA-UF game on TV and watching a bulldog named Pearl with Gator.  The Dawgs won that time out and Gator referred to it as "Pearlgate", he blamed that poor dog we were dog sitting.

It was a good time.
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 24, 2018, 12:22:02 PM
The one point safety. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4TeP4rw0s
Title: Re: Strange, but True, Facts about CFB
Post by: Cincydawg on February 24, 2018, 02:56:29 PM
Wow, most cool, thread winner, unless ...