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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2022, 08:35:36 AM
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I think we did something like this in the past, maybe??
WISCONSIN BADGERS OFFENSE
QB: Russell Wilson
Honorable Mentions: Scott Tolzien, Brooks Bollinger, Darrel Bevell
TB: Jonathan Taylor
Honorable Mentions: Ron Dayne, Montee Ball, Melvin Gordon, James White, Anthony Davis, Brent Moss, Terrell Fletcher, Michael Bennett, Brian Calhoun, Corey Clement
FB: Cecil Martin
Honorable Mentions: Derek Watt, Alec Ingold, Mason Stokke, Chris Pressley, Brady Ewing, John Chenal, Matt Bernstein
TE: Lance Kendricks
Honorable Mentions: Owen Daniels, Troy Fumagali, Michael Roan, Jake Ferguson, Mark Anelli, Travis Beckum, Garrett Graham
WR: Quintez Cephus, Lee Evans
Honorable Mentions: Jared Abbrederis, Nick Toon, Brandon Williams, Luke Swan, Alex Erickson, Chris Chambers, Lee DeRamus
OT: Joe Thomas, Ryan Ramczyk
Honorable Mentions: Joe Panos, Rob Havenstein, Jerry Wunsch, Aaron Gibson, Chris McIntosh, Gabe Carimi, Ricky Wagner, Ben Johnson, David Edwards
Center: Travis Frederick
Honorable Mentions: Corey Raymer, Casey Rabach, Al Johnson, Peter Konz, Dan Voltz, Tyler Biadasz
OG: John Moffitt, Kevin Zeitler
Honorable Mentions: Chuck Belin, Bill Ferrario, Joe Rudolph, Dave Costa, Dan Buenning, Kraig Urbik, Beau Benzschawel, Michael Deiter
WISCONSIN BADGERS DEFENSE
DT/NG: Wendell Bryant, Anttaj Hawthorn
Honorable mentions: Keanu Benton, Mike Thompson, Beau Allen, Nick Hayden, Jason Jefferson, Ross Kolodziej, Jason Maniecki, Olive Sagapolu, Mike Newkirk, Warren Herring
DE: JJ Watt, Erasmus James
Honorable Mentions: Tom Burke, O'Brien Schofield, Matt Shaughnessy, John Favret, Tarek Saleh, Chikwe Obasih, Alec James, Connor Sheehy
ILB: Chris Borland, Leo Chenal
Honorable Mentions: Pete Monty, Nick Greisen, Alex Lewis, Jack Sanborn, Jack Cichy, Ryan Connelly, TJ Edwards, Chris Orr
OLB: TJ Watt, Joe Schobert
Honorable Mentions: Vince Biegel, Leon Jacobs, Nick Herbig, Andrew Van Ginkel, Zack Baun, Roger Knight, Deandre Levy, Tarek Saleh, Jonathon Casillas
To be continued...
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We did, and it's a nice OS exercise. And not that easy beyond some obvious ones.
QB - Aaron Murray I think.
RB - Nick Chubb
RB2 - Todd Gurley
WR - AJ Green
WR - George Pickens
TE - Bowers (I am amazed with this player)
Defensive players, I could just take the 2021 team, maybe sub in David Pollack and Greg Blue (safety).
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I think we did something like this in the past, maybe??
WISCONSIN BADGERS
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TE: Owen Daniels
Honorable Mentions: Troy Fumagali, Michael Roan, Jake Ferguson, Mark Anelli, Travis Beckum
To be continued...
Is this just favorites, or actually best?
Because I think you gotta put Kendricks at No. 1. You also gotta put Garrett Graham in ahead of Ferguson. (Jacob Pedersen is kinda borderline, as he was a very good receiver, but maybe not as much a blocker)
WR: Lee Evans, jared Abbrederis
HM: Nick Toon, Brandon Williams, Chris Chambers, Quintez Cephus, maybe Lee DeRamus?
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I thought about Graham. I will add him into the HM on my post.
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Is this just favorites, or actually best?
Because I think you gotta put Kendricks at No. 1. You also gotta put Garrett Graham in ahead of Ferguson. (Jacob Pedersen is kinda borderline, as he was a very good receiver, but maybe not as much a blocker)
WR: Lee Evans, jared Abbrederis
HM: Nick Toon, Brandon Williams, Chris Chambers, Quintez Cephus, maybe Lee DeRamus?
DeRamus for sure. I'll also add Jonathon Orr. How about Donald Hayes and Errickson?
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DeRamus for sure. I'll also add Jonathon Orr. How about Donald Hayes and Errickson?
I'm definitely in on the first two, and probably Orr.
Orr was so weird. Awesome numbers as a freshman for a kinda so-so offense given the play-makers. Then 294 yards in those middle years, 20 total catches. Then Stocco ascends and a nice 688 as the No. 2 WR to close out.
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Skipped Orr and Hayes, but added Luke Swan.
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Skipped Orr and Hayes, but added Luke Swan.
Solid one. Very small window of contributing, but quite strong.
I think we've hashed out Cephus vs. Abby, but just an agree to disagree spot there.
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so 30 years would be 1991 to 2021?
I’ll go….
QB - Drew Henson
RB - Tyrone Wheatley
RB - Mike Hart
WR - Braylon Edwards
WR - Desmond Howard
WR - David Terrell
TE - Jake Butt
LT - Jake Long
LG - Steve Hutchinson
C - David Baas
RG - Jon Jansen
RT - Jeff Backus
DL - Aidan Hutchinson
DL - LaMarr Woolley
DL - Brandon Graham
DL - Glen Steele
LB - Jarrett Irons
LB - Devin Bush
LB - David Harris
CB - Charles Woodson
CB - Ty Law
NB - Marlin Jackson
S - Ernest Shazor
S - Dax Hill
that pass rush and secondary is filthy. Hutchinson, Woodley, and Graham all elite pass rushers. Not sure teams would even be able to complete a pass on Woodson & Law with Marlin Jackson as your 3rd corner lol.
That OL and WR crew real nice too. Big time twin towers with Braylon & DT and Desmond Howard in the slot to carve everyone to pieces. That OL would open holes you could drive a truck through. Wheatley got that 4.3 speed in a 230 pound body and Hart just the jack of all trades do it all who can move the chains and has a nose for the end zone.
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that pass rush and secondary is filthy. Hutchinson, Woodley, and Graham all elite pass rushers. Not sure teams would even be able to complete a pass on Woodson & Law with Marlin Jackson as your 3rd corner lol.
That OL and WR crew real nice too. Big time twin towers with Braylon & DT and Desmond Howard in the slot to carve everyone to pieces. That OL would open holes you could drive a truck through. Wheatley got that 4.3 speed in a 230 pound body and Hart just the jack of all trades do it all who can move the chains and has a nose for the end zone.
That sounds a bit like your comparison of UM and UGA in their bowl game. Of course, in any hypothetical, they'd be up against all stars from another program.
So, maybe that other team could pass and run a bit too.
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QB - Tim Tebow
Others: Danny Wuerffel, Rex Grossman, Kyle Trask
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RB - Fred Taylor
RB - Percy Harvin
Others: Earnest Graham, Errict Rhett
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WR - Jabar Gaffney
WR - Ike Hilliard
WR - Jacquez Green
Others: Kadarius Toney, Reidel Anthony, Chris Doering, Jack Jackson
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TE - Kyle Pitts
Others: Ben Troupe, Aaron Hernandez
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T - Mike Pearson
T - Jason Odom
G - Donnie Young
G - Mike Pouncey
C - Maurkice Pouncey
Others: Kenyatta Walker (T), Jeff Mitchell (C)
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DE - Alex Brown
DE - Carlos Dunlap
Others: Kevin Carter, Jarvis Moss, Derrick Harvey, Dante Fowler Jr
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DT - Sharrif Floyd
DT - Gerard Warren
Others: Ellis Johnson, Ed Chester
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LB - Brandon Spikes
LB - Mike Peterson
LB - Jevon Kearse
Others: Brandon Siler, Jarrad Davis, Channing Crowder, Johnny Rutledge
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CB - Lito Sheppard
CB - Keiwan Ratliff
Others: Fred Weary, Ryan Smith, Joe Haden, Vernon Hargreaves III, C.J. Henderson, Janoris Jenkins
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S - Matt Elam
S - Reggie Nelson
Others: Marcus Maye, Ahmad Black
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K - Caleb Sturgis
Others: Eddy Pineiro, Jeff Chandler, Judd Davis
P - Johnny Townsend
Others: Chaz Henry, Kyle Christy
RET - Brandon James
Others: Andre Debose, Antonio Callaway
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That sounds a bit like your comparison of UM and UGA in their bowl game. Of course, in any hypothetical, they'd be up against all stars from another program.
So, maybe that other team could pass and run a bit too.
And their corners would bait a QB who almost started a whole season, but makes an all-time team! Pick Pick Pick Pick
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I think if you took an all time offense from an Ohio State or USC or Texas, you'd probably have a pretty good quarterback on said team.
And some good WRs as well.
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QB - Tim Tebow
RB - Fred Taylor
RB - Percy Harvin
WR - Andre Caldwell
WR - Ike Hilliard
WR - Jacquez Green
TE - Kyle Pitts
T - Mike Pearson
T - Kenyatta Walker
G - Jeff Mitchell
G - Mike Pouncey
C - Maurkice Pouncey
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DE - Alex Brown
DE - Carlos Dunlap
DT - Sharif Floyd
DT - Gerard Warren
LB - Brandon Spikes
LB - Mike Peterson
LB - Jevon Kearse
CB - Lito Sheppard
CB - Keiwan Ratliff
S - Matt Elam
S - Reggie Nelson
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K - Caleb Sturgis
P - Johnny Townsend
RET - Brandon James
Alex Brown is a cool guy. Have shared many of drink with him over the years.
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His 5-sack, 1-int game vs Tennessee is legendary.
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That sounds a bit like your comparison of UM and UGA in their bowl game. Of course, in any hypothetical, they'd be up against all stars from another program.
So, maybe that other team could pass and run a bit too.
GFY grandpa
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And their corners would bait a QB who almost started a whole season, but makes an all-time team! Pick Pick Pick Pick
I went most talented, not best numbers or best overall career. Henson was an adonis that would've been the #1 overall pick had he just stuck to football. That one year he started- he was phenomenal.
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I guess we just have different definitions of the word 'phenomenal.'
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I guess we just have different definitions of the word 'phenomenal.'
Michigan played a ball control pro style offense- none of their QB's were putting up big #'s back in the 80s, 90s, or 2000s. You clearly never watched the guy play if you didn't think he was phenomenal. I want to say he completed 62% for 18 TD's vs 4 INT's and ran for 3-4 more TD's in 9 games his final year at Michigan. He was 6'4, 230 with a ridiculous arm and ran 4.6's. Dude was closest thing to Elway college football had seen since Elway.
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I'm always amused at how all of these phenomenal players with such amazing abilities don't actually DO more.
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GFY grandpa
Oh yeah, that was a bad take you made emphatically.
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Literally.
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The All Star team from 30 years is going to look awesome on either side of the ball for any major program. I'm sure they would all vanquish "Vandy", but in this hypothetical, they should be compared, to the extent possible, with other All Star teams. Sure, the defense is going to look incredible, but it would be facing incredible offenses, with folks by Vince Young or Joe Burrough leading them. It stands to reason such an offense would find ways to score, maybe even more than 11 points.
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Wisconsin offense complete. Looking forward to more feedback, @bayareabadger (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1571)
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A few thoughts on the last batch of UW people
Strong agrees (from the new stuff): Martin, a damn truck from a strong group. When Bill Rentmeester is squeezed out, that's impressive.
Guards are good
Modest disagreement, but probably a matter of taste:
We went over the Cephus-Abby stuff
I would put Wagner over Ryan Ramczyk. I think Ramczyk was a better pass blocker, but I think Wagner was just mean as all hell in the run game. The fact Ramczyk played one year, and it's probably the worst UW running season of the modern era, I'd dock him for that, but it's a perfectly good choice (Carimi gets docked for his NFL work, unfairly, though his work before his last year was only just OK)
Main disagree
I love Owen Daniels, but he's not the best TE they've had in this era (he was quite good). Lance Kendricks is No. 1. Just a hellacious blocker, super mobile, and an explosive receiver. I think Fum was the best overall pure receiver at the position, while Backum was the most explosive.
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You know what's funny? Jake Rudock has better stats across the board, even in rushing.
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funny strange
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so 30 years would be 1991 to 2021?
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Technically it's 1992-2021. 1991-2021 would be 31 seasons.
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Technically it's 1992-2021. 1991-2021 would be 31 seasons.
(Looks up 1991)
Ha, suck it Kent Graham
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(Looks up 1991)
Ha, suck it Kent Graham
In the 30 years since Kent Graham it is difficult to come up with many QBs that were worse. Steve Bellisari? Justin Zwick? Joe Bauserman?
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In the 30 years since Kent Graham it is difficult to come up with many QBs that were worse. Steve Bellisari? Justin Zwick? Joe Bauserman?
I can tell you little about the man other than he was a senior that year. And he was on Ohio State, which was just 8-4.
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I left off some guys at the cutoff - the ones who played before it, even if their best days were after the cutoff.
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Added DT/NG for UW.
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Added DT/NG for UW.
Agree with this. The modern Badgers have just loaded up on. A- guys, but those two are the only A/A- types for this kind of discussion
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There will probably be fewer moving forward, with the 3/4 and the NG playing only 1/2 of the snaps in favor of a 5th DB.
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UW DE's added. Had a really hard time keeping Tom Burke off the top of the list.
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UW DE's added. Had a really hard time keeping Tom Burke off the top of the list.
Is he getting knocked just for the being a monster thing?
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I flipped a coin on JJ vs. Burke.
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92-21
offense - 11 personnel set
qb - mac jones - tua and young both got heavy consideration, and after next season young might take over, but mac was so efficient. tua injuries put me off him. that's my 3 deep, though. mac, young, tua.
rb - najee harris - shaun alexander, ingram, trent, and henry all got major consideration, but imo, najee is best all around bama back ever. alexander and henry would fill out the 3 deep.
te - oj howard - fairly easy pick here.
wr - smitty - this is gonna be tough to narrow down to just 3 wr's. but smitty was best of them all, so he's #1.
wr - julio - most freakish and would have loved to see him in a modern style offense.
wr - waddle - needed an electric, shifty type to complement the big target and speed options. cooper, ridley, jeudy, david palmer, prothro, freddie milons, and antonio carter were all considered. to get a 2 deep, for 6 wr rotation, i'd go with 3 above, plus cooper, juedy, and palmer.
lt - chris samuels - lot of good players here, but samuels was probably the best from this time frame. back up would be jonah williams.
lg - chance warmack - best guard for bama ever maybe. backup evan mathis.
c - ryan kelley - had tough choice between him and either dickerson or caldwell. all were really good. but kelley did it over multiple seasons and maybe a bit of recency bias. those other 2 is pickem for backup, though i lean dickerson.
rg - barrett jones - probably the most decorated bama player ever, one of cfb top decorated players ever. dude had a ridiculous career. also provides a ton of versatility, being all sec at guard twice and center his sr year. also started at tackle one season. backup is mike johnson
rt - fluker - just a huge mauler that was good in pass pro too. backup andre smith.
defense - 3-4 base
de - john copeland - one of the bookend de's on the 92 team, copeland was consensus aa. backup is ashawn robinson.
dt - marcel dareus - dude was a freak up the middle. back up daron payne, with heavy rotation. gonna get really good pass rush up middle with those 2, and not much if any run stopping ability lost either.
de - jonathan allen - mix between dt/de, just could play. eric curry, the other half of the 92 bookends, is backup.
sam lb - hightower - underrated lb for bama fans, one of my favorites. back up, keith mccants.
mike lb - cj mosley - dude could take your head off and still cover the pass. back up rueben foster.
will lb - demeco ryans - one of the few bright spots from pre-saban 00's, guy was a stud. back up, rolando mclain.
jack lb - will anderson - easiest pick on the list. broke/set ncaa records last season, hopefully just adds to that this year. will go down as top 2-3 lb/de's in bama history, right next to derrick thomas (who just missed this list by couple years). back up saleem rasheed or derrick pope. or mack wilson.
cb - antonio langham - all world cb from 92 team. backup dre kirkpatrick.
fs - minkah - can play anywhere along back line, but fs was my fav position for him. back up george teague.
ss - roman harper - another rare bright spot pre-saban 00s. back up mark barron, hootie jones, or landon collins.
cb - dee milliner. could go with dre kirk here, but i like dee. backup marlon humphrey.
star - eddie jackson - when needing to go to a nickle d. back up javier arenas.
p - jk scott.
k - reichard.
kr/pr - arenas and/or prothro. backup, freddie milons and/or kenyon drake.
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I flipped a coin on JJ vs. Burke.
Interesting. I’d probably have them both over James, just because his dominance was so short.
Schofield is a guy who wouldn’t stand out at top two, but shout out to him. Hard worker and nice kid. Shame that knee limited his career.
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92-21
offense - 11 personnel set
qb - mac jones - tua and young both got heavy consideration, and after next season young might take over, but mac was so efficient. tua injuries put me off him. that's my 3 deep, though. mac, young, tua.
rb - najee harris - shaun alexander, ingram, trent, and henry all got major consideration, but imo, najee is best all around bama back ever. alexander and henry would fill out the 3 deep.
te - oj howard - fairly easy pick here.
wr - smitty - this is gonna be tough to narrow down to just 3 wr's. but smitty was best of them all, so he's #1.
wr - julio - most freakish and would have loved to see him in a modern style offense.
wr - waddle - needed an electric, shifty type to complement the big target and speed options. cooper, ridley, jeudy, david palmer, prothro, freddie milons, and antonio carter were all considered. to get a 2 deep, for 6 wr rotation, i'd go with 3 above, plus cooper, juedy, and palmer.
lt - chris samuels - lot of good players here, but samuels was probably the best from this time frame. back up would be jonah williams.
lg - chance warmack - best guard for bama ever maybe. backup evan mathis.
c - ryan kelley - had tough choice between him and either dickerson or caldwell. all were really good. but kelley did it over multiple seasons and maybe a bit of recency bias. those other 2 is pickem for backup, though i lean dickerson.
rg - barrett jones - probably the most decorated bama player ever, one of cfb top decorated players ever. dude had a ridiculous career. also provides a ton of versatility, being all sec at guard twice and center his sr year. also started at tackle one season. backup is mike johnson
rt - fluker - just a huge mauler that was good in pass pro too. backup andre smith.
defense - 3-4 base
de - john copeland - one of the bookend de's on the 92 team, copeland was consensus aa. backup is ashawn robinson.
dt - marcel dareus - dude was a freak up the middle. back up daron payne, with heavy rotation. gonna get really good pass rush up middle with those 2, and not much if any run stopping ability lost either.
de - jonathan allen - mix between dt/de, just could play. eric curry, the other half of the 92 bookends, is backup.
sam lb - hightower - underrated lb for bama fans, one of my favorites. back up, keith mccants.
mike lb - cj mosley - dude could take your head off and still cover the pass. back up rueben foster.
will lb - demeco ryans - one of the few bright spots from pre-saban 00's, guy was a stud. back up, rolando mclain.
jack lb - will anderson - easiest pick on the list. broke/set ncaa records last season, hopefully just adds to that this year. will go down as top 2-3 lb/de's in bama history, right next to derrick thomas (who just missed this list by couple years). back up saleem rasheed or derrick pope. or mack wilson.
cb - antonio langham - all world cb from 92 team. backup dre kirkpatrick.
fs - minkah - can play anywhere along back line, but fs was my fav position for him. back up george teague.
ss - roman harper - another rare bright spot pre-saban 00s. back up mark barron, hootie jones, or landon collins.
cb - dee milliner. could go with dre kirk here, but i like dee. backup marlon humphrey.
star - eddie jackson - when needing to go to a nickle d. back up javier arenas.
p - jk scott.
k - reichard.
kr/pr - arenas and/or prothro. backup, freddie milons and/or kenyon drake.
Weak-ass team :57:
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Iowa
QB1 - Brad Banks. 2002 Heisman runner-up to Carson Palmer
QB2 - CJ Beathard
QB3 - Ricky Stanzi
RB1 - Shonn Greene - 2008 Doak Walker winner
RB2 - Sedrick Shaw
RB3 - Ladell Betts
3rd down RB1 - Akrum Wadley
3rd down RB2 - Tavian Banks
FB - Mark Weisman
WR1 - Marvin McNutt
WR2 - DJK
WR3 - Tim Dwight
WR4 -Kevin Casper
WR5 - ISM
Center1 - Tyler Linderbaum
Center2 - Bruce Nelson
OL1 - Marshal Yanda
OL2 - Robert Gallery
OL3 - Riley Reiff
OL4 - Bryan Buluga
OL5 - Eric Sienbach
OL6 - Tristan Wirfs
OL7 - Brandon Scherf
OL8 - Ross Verba
TE1 - Dallas Clark
TE2 - T.J. Hockeson
TE3 - Noah Fant
TE4 - George Kittle
TE5 - Scott Chandler
TE6 - Tony Moeaki
KR1 - Tim Dwight
KR2 - Charlie Jones
Kicker1 - Nate Keading
Kicker2 - Kieth Duncan
Punter1 - David Bradley
DB1 - Bob Sanders
DB2 - Desmond King
DB3 - Micah Hyde
DB4 - Josh Jackson
DB5 - Amani Hooker
DB6 - Tom Knight
DB7 - Amari Speivey
DB8 - Tyler Sash
LB1 - Chad Greenway
LB2 - Josey Jewell
LB3 - Pat Angerer
LB4 - Christian Kirksey
LB5 - Anthony Hitchens
LB6 - Abul Hodge
DL1 - Jared Devries.
DL2 - Adrian Clayborn
DL3 - Matt Roth
DL4 - Jonathon babinox
DL5 - A.J. Epenensa
DL6 - Mike Daniels
DL7 - Davion Nixon
DL8 - Christian Ballard
HC1 - Hayden Fry
HC2 - Kirk Ferentz
DC1 - Norm Parker
DC2 - Phil Parker
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That'd be a good team.
Weisman worked out at the gym I used to go to, before it got locked down for Covid.
Good guy.
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That'd be a good team.
Weisman worked out at the gym I used to go to, before it got locked down for Covid.
Good guy.
Cool, Weisman was always one of my favorite players. He started out at FB and got converted to Halfback due to injuries to Iowa's other RB's. Then ended up starting at HB for 3 years.
When Weisman was healthy he could actually show some surprising speed bursting through a hole, and was pretty dependable at always picking up that extra yard needed for that first down. He must have incredible strength I am guessing even still today when he works out at the gym. Too bad he always got worn down by the end of season but he legit was Iowa's best option at RB at that time.
His final stats were not too shabby either. 2602 yards total, 4.3 ypc. 32 TD's
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Definitely a beast in the gym, and did not skip leg days.
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Cool, Weisman was always one of my favorite players. He started out at FB and got converted to Halfback due to injuries to Iowa's other RB's. Then ended up starting at HB for 3 years.
When Weisman was healthy he could actually show some surprising speed bursting through a hole, and was pretty dependable at always picking up that extra yard needed for that first down. He must have incredible strength I am guessing even still today when he works out at the gym. Too bad he always got worn down by the end of season but he legit was Iowa's best option at RB at that time.
His final stats were not too shabby either. 2602 yards total, 4.3 ypc. 32 TD's
airbhg liked him cause he wasn't really a rb, but a fb in disguise.
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UW ILB's added.
OLB is gonna be a bitch to do.
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airbhg liked him cause he wasn't really a rb, but a fb in disguise.
It's amazing to think about. The Angry Iowa Running Back Hating God (AIRBHG) cursed many a RB over the years.
Just leading up to the game when Weisman finally took over as starter in early 2012, the previous starters and back-ups from 2010-2012 left because
One guy got his girlfriend pregnant and dropped out as a sophomore.
One guy got a career ending ACL injury as a sophomore
One guy failed a drug test and had academic problems and transferred as a sophomore
One guy got accused of rape, the girl ended up dropping the charges, but his career at Iowa was still over, and he transferred out as a sophomore.
Another guy had frequent injuries but finally made it back to starting in 2015
Another guy had academic problems and transferred after his freshman year.
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This would be a fruitful exercise of program strength/depth through the eras to do a 5th-team all-time team.
It would be a big job, actually mapping out your top 4 teams of all-time first, then who is next one up?
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I think the QB quality across programs would vary wildly. Some school's 5th-best were all-american caliber guys and other's were Joe Schmoe.
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Plus, they wouldn't all be super-teams. That's a prediction, but I think we'd be surprised how weak the 5th-best-DE pair-ever winds up being for some programs.
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This would be a fruitful exercise of program strength/depth through the eras to do a 5th-team all-time team.
It would be a big job, actually mapping out your top 4 teams of all-time first, then who is next one up?
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I think the QB quality across programs would vary wildly. Some school's 5th-best were all-american caliber guys and other's were Joe Schmoe.
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Plus, they wouldn't all be super-teams. That's a prediction, but I think we'd be surprised how weak the 5th-best-DE pair-ever winds up being for some programs.
This is kinda why I'm listing honorable mentions. Probably gonna stop at third team.
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UW OLB's added.