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Title: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on August 18, 2017, 06:08:40 PM
UT's chances just improved.....


http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/georgia-tech-kicks-running-back-dedrick-mills-off-team-081817


I wonder how much that's going to move the line?
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 19, 2017, 12:38:12 AM
I love these regional games that never happen.  GT and TN could've played a lot over the years, but they haven't.  Good to see these 2 square off. 

Some similar potential games would be like Auburn-FSU, LSU-Texas, Ohio St-WV, etc. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: rolltidefan2 on August 19, 2017, 07:47:50 AM
Auburn FSU was very much a rivalry of sorts in the early 80's.  I went to several of those games
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: ALA2262 on August 19, 2017, 09:35:37 AM
UT's chances just improved.....


http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/georgia-tech-kicks-running-back-dedrick-mills-off-team-081817 (http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/georgia-tech-kicks-running-back-dedrick-mills-off-team-081817)


I wonder how much that's going to move the line?

South Point went to -4. Treasure Island took the game off the board. Sounds like a broken record. Both did the exact same thing with Michigan-UF when the UF players were suspended.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/2/?s=2200 (http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/odds/las-vegas/2/?s=2200)
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: ALA2262 on August 19, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
He's a Bad News Bear. The barn will take him.  :)
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 19, 2017, 10:34:57 PM
Ole Miss will pay him more....
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: AUauditor86 on August 21, 2017, 07:27:39 AM
He's a Bad News Bear. The barn will take him.  :)

We never get a chance at UAT players, because they get so many chance there and only get kicked off the team after they almost kill someone, then the "Barn" can't even take them.  :73:
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: gymvol on August 22, 2017, 05:33:18 PM
I remember the 1985 game when Daryl Dickey was getting his first start after Tony Robinson suffered a broken leg.

It was like Majors was playing not to lose by not letting Dickey do a whole with the offense and we barely ended up in a 6-6 tie. We should have beat them like a drum.

I hope we do better this year than in 1985.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Cincydawg on August 29, 2017, 10:06:09 AM
Usually, extra time to prepare for Tech is good (bowl games etc.).  I like Tenn in this one, but not by much.

Should be an interesting game.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on August 29, 2017, 11:05:54 AM
Usually, extra time to prepare for Tech is good (bowl games etc.).  I like Tenn in this one, but not by much.

Should be an interesting game.
i tend to agree with you... GT is hard to play sandwiched between two proset's or spreads... methinks that's half their strategy for winning. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Cincydawg on August 29, 2017, 11:25:52 AM
UGA practices getting off blocks and does better when they have two weeks to prepare.  They come at your feet obviously the entire game.  If a defender can hop back and hop over the blocks he can maintain his feet and make the play (obv).

It's not the kind of thing you practice much against routine offenses, and it means you are not practicing against other facets of their game.  The scout team will have a tough time emulating their offense at full speed.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on August 30, 2017, 08:52:17 PM
UT lost Kirkland today... pretty damn good linebacker... indefinitely... damn.




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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — Tennessee junior middle linebacker Darrin Kirkland Jr. underwent knee surgery on Wednesday and will not play Monday night against Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

Vols’ coach Butch Jones announced Kirkland suffered a torn meniscus at his press conference, saying there is not yet a timetable for his return.
RELATED: Butch Jones press conference live blog (http://sec.news/2xxTmHf)
Kirkland suffered the injury in Friday’s practice in what Jones described as “bizarre” fashion.
“It was one of those bizarre things that happens in football,” Jones said. “Somebody just fell over, it was non-contact.”
Tennessee’s newly released depth chart indicates senior Colton Jumper will start at middle linebacker in place of Kirkland, and senior Dillon Bates is listed as the backup.


Kirkland had underwent arthroscopic knee surgery in June and missed the start of fall drills. The 6-foot-1, 238-pound junior from Indianapolis worked hard to get back to 100 percent, and was starting to flex his muscle when the injury occurred.
“I give that young man a lot of credit, obviously football means everything to him,” Jones said. “I expect him to come back from this and be bigger and better and stronger.”
Tennessee defensive coordinator Bob Shoop said during the offseason that it would be a key for the defense to get Kirkland Jr. back healthy.
Kirkland Jr. suffered a high ankle sprain against Virginia Tech the second game of last season and was less than 100 percent when he returned for the South Carolina game on Oct. 28.
A solid offseason was slowed again in April, when Kirkland suffered a pulled hamstring and was one of 23 players who missed the Orange and White Game.
RELATED: Butch Jones suspends starting left tackle Drew Richmond for opener (http://sec.news/2vshk9z)
Injury Report
(unofficial)
• KR Evan Berry, knee (probable)
• WR Josh Smith, shoulder (questionable)
• DT Shy Tuttle, knee (questionable)
• DT Alexis Johnson, strain (questionable)
• DT Quay Picou, thigh (questionable)
• LB Darrin Kirkland Jr. knee (out)
• OT Chance Hall, knee (out)
• WR Jacquez Jones, knee (out)
• OT Drew Richmond, suspension (out)
• OT K’Rohjn Calbert, knee (out)
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 02, 2017, 11:23:20 AM
UT 24 GT 17.....
I flipped a rock this morning. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 04, 2017, 11:53:20 AM
Ok, UT....UF and TAMU have already claimed each division's allotment of losses for opening week.  

Stick it to the bees or you're out of the conference.  
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 04, 2017, 07:00:12 PM
It's going to be an ugly game tonight me fears. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: VolRage on September 04, 2017, 07:41:29 PM
Me too. I haven't had a ton of confidence in TN since 2007. Butch has made some good hires and recruited well but I haven't seen it translate well on the field. They have had flashes of excellence but then they lose to teams like Vandy which is a bottom feeder program.

We shall see shortly. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: VolRage on September 04, 2017, 08:55:31 PM
So far, I'm not impressed with the TN's O or D. Borderline pathetic. Hopefully they get their shit together before it's too late.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 04, 2017, 11:49:51 PM
That was crazy! 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 05, 2017, 12:02:04 AM
wow.... i need to unwind before i call it a night... a cigar and pappy van winkle is in order. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 05, 2017, 12:57:47 AM
I thought it was dumb for Tech to go for 2.  UT can't stop you all night, the longer the game goes the better the chance you outlast them.  I mean you're gonna score in 3OT.  Why force it to come down to one play where anything can happen, which it did? Your chances of a third TD in OT are better than UT's. 

Gutsy game by the Vols.  Callaway (sp?...#1) made some clutch catches and blocked like a damn rock star away from the ball all night.  Every time a back got free he was out on the perimeter cleaning some db out. 

I'd still be very worried about both lines, but I suspect fans won't let that suck the wind out of their sails this week. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 05, 2017, 08:05:44 AM
benson (tech rb) is a dang bowling ball... it's not that he is easy to stop in terms of pure running power, it's that there seems to be no way to get a grip on him from the side... either you meet that guy head on, and his power/center of gravity/low profile makes that difficult, or you go along for the ride.  he doesn't seem to have legs- he just rolls.  

the UT D was winded last night by halfway into the second.  The O was fresh pretty much all night.  that is a good thing most weeks, but weeks like this yo kinda want them to get their reps in- they did, ultimately, but it wasn't pretty. 

Dormandy (sp?) played better than i expected him to- his completion percentage was down, but that was all on the receiver seemingly afraid to catch the ball or something.  he seemed to maintain poise throughout the game.  five things though:  he throws into traffic (if that were UF's d, there would have been at least four picks last night), he stares down the receiver, he doesn't check off but instead targets the first option, and he doesn't screen the hand off too well.  ..... but he's def something to 'work with', and i think he'll be fine as the season progresses. 
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: Cincydawg on September 05, 2017, 06:06:25 PM
Tech would have had the ball first in third OT, which is a disadvantage, so going for 2 made sense to me.

Both teams seemed able to move at will, so being able to covert the two seemed like a decent option to me.

Imagine Tech had a holding penalty or somesuch in OT3 and kicked of FG or worse.
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 06, 2017, 12:14:41 AM
The team with less talent/depth should go for 2.  That's GT.  It made sense.

Watch a replay of that 50 yard TD by Callaway.  Look at the GT safety's angle as Callaway starts down the sideline.  WTF?!?!?!?  I can't even begin to understand it.  
Title: Re: UTk vs GT
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 06, 2017, 11:48:01 AM
I see your points, built on general axioms, but given the actual game that transpired, I have a lot more faith in GT to score another TD than UT.  UT caught fire at the end, but it felt a lot more tenuous than GT who flat out dominated UT on offense all night, and never stopped.  If you're GT, you're going to score another TD in OT.  That's not even a question, and it's why having the ball first in 3OT is meaningless.  At that point you go for two, when you have to.  But make sure you get to that point, rather than gambling that UT finally makes their one play on defense all night.  UT might accidentally make a good defensive play in 3OT, but they're not going to make 3 or 4, being the number of downs GT has to pick up a first or get in the endzone.  

Letting it ride on one play was a gamble, and I don't think there was a need to gamble.  Tech played them fine all night straight up.