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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Drew4UTk on August 14, 2017, 10:53:16 AM
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[member=58]OrangeAfroMan[/member] , How big a splash is losing those 6 players in the opener going to cause?
I figured it would be a close game before that... I don't know enough about either team, really, but it seems to me Harbaugh would have the advantage over McElwain simply based on perception of who gets their team better prepared... but... UM is also in a bit of reloading, no? UF is going to be rock solid on D again...
what is your opinion on the matter?
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I'm going with Michigan. Florida should have been able to win this game with all the personnel losses by Michigan. However this seven player suspension indicates that they are not focused. I think Michigan by 10.
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i'm inclined to agree with you, Joe. even before the suspensions i'm leaning more toward UM. Harbaugh is a tactician, and this game is much more akin to a bowl game than a regular season game with time to prepare... the difference being lack of sync and gel early on- which i wager is something UM has the edge on with types of O.
I surely don't mind being wrong, though. I don't have a dog in the fight with this game, except i've got this dream bordering on fantasy of both UF and UTk being undefeated when they meet up a couple weeks later.
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Losing your best WR is never good. None of the other players matter much.
The way I look at it is either Florida has a competent QB or it doesn't. There are plenty of able bodies at WR, but yeah, Callaway is the best of the bunch. The slot guys should stay in the slot or take turns manning the outside in Callaway's absence.
The other guys suspended:
backup DE
3rd string DE
2 LBs not on depth chart
FR possible backup/3rd string OT
like 4th string DT
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UF wins by 2 TDs instead of 3. :)
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Guys, Michigan lost TWENTY STARTERS. TEN on defense. SEVEN on offense. ONE P. ONE PK. ONE LS. 10+7+1+1+1=20.
tOSU proved in the CFP they weren't all that hot. Harbaugh could not beat tOSU with those 20 players. He is not going to beat UF without them.
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More food for thought. Phil Steele's #1 Surprise Team in 2016 was Washington. His #1 Surprise Team for 2017 is Florida.
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UDubb started out ranked pretty high last season as I recall.
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Florida isn't going to win unless it gets some QB play. And Michigan's DL will be just as good this year as last year.
Points should be hard to come by for both teams.
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UDubb started out ranked pretty high last season as I recall.
Washington was ranked 14th in the 2016 AP Preseason Poll. Florida is projected to be ranked about the same this year. Which will be released 8/21. Florida was ranked 16th in the Preseason Coaches Poll.
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[member=58]OrangeAfroMan[/member] : what the hell is going on with your team? are they that undisciplined? i mean, this is nuts, no?
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Well hold up....it's 2 more suspensions, but the same issue. The PD simply hadn't uncovered that they were in on the same scheme as the previous 7.
10 players suspended gets the headline, but it's actually only 2 events - 9 players in a cash-making scheme and 1 player with a weed arrest.
It's just stupid and now I'd be surprised if Florida is on par with Michigan.
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hate to see kids with such talent do bone headed crap and destroy their prospects... i realize that hasn't happened yet, but... if they've nfl ambitions (i'm sure they do) they just dropped out a parachute they now have to get themselves detached from.
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FL doesn't look impressive at all. Their QB play and run game is horrible. The D shows up every now and then.
Or is Michigan that good?
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their D has flashed for certain... they'll be exceptionally good by the time UTk meets them. but offensively? they aren't good, at all... does two key players make the difference? maybe... dunno.. [member=58]OrangeAfroMan[/member]?
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Callaway is an alright WR but a better thug. He shouldn't be on anyone's team. I believe he's had 2 sexual assault charges and now a charge that is essentially theft in the last 2 years. I wouldn't want him playing for UT, that's for sure. With all of that said, he will make a difference when he returns but not that big of an impact because the FL QB's appear to be horrible.
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they damn sure do, Rage... and that isn't the kind of thing that improves in three weeks... which makes my orange ass happy!!
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Yeah, looks like the same old offense as last year. At the same time, Florida won't see another defense like that until FSU. But while Callaway might've caught a few passes, neither he nor Scarlett would've blocked that UM front 7. The OL needed to be strength and it wasn't.
When no one blocks, it doesn't matter who is throwing it, catching it, or running it.
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the UF O didn't score a single point against a defense that returned no starters.... that is pretty wild.
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the UF O didn't score a single point against a defense that returned no starters.... that is pretty wild.
Don Brown is seriously awesome.
And that D has plenty of guys that will be in the NFL some day. Especially that DL. Chase Winovich will get drafted somewhere between rounds 3-6. Only thing he really lacks is prototype size as he's 6'3, 255 on a good day. Maurice Hurst and Rashan Gary both look like 1st round talents to my eyes. They do things that don't show up in the stat sheet just bc they are both so freaking disruptive and in the offensive backfield as soon as the ball is snapped. Both those guys have no business being as quick as they are at their size. I mean Gary is fricken 6'5, 290 and looks like he weights about 250 and can move like no 290 pound man should be able to. Hurst's first step off the snap is about as quick as it gets for a 6'2, 285 pound man. He doesn't get enough love. He's a damn penetrating machine on the interior- he was last year too. He is a bad MOFO.
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I asked a few lady friends of mine, and they assured me a "damn penetrating machine" would get plenty of love.
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OrangeAfro, it's a good thing I wasn't drinking or eating anything when I read that.
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Welp, at least I'm not a Texas fan or a Baylor fan, right? We lost to a good team at least.
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This was my ugly uniform game of the week. All that reloading that Michigan did, and they still wore uniforms that made them look like Power Rangers. Ugh. I also don't like the white helmets for Florida. UF should wear orange helmets, otherwise they just don't look right.
Florida D gonna be very good again. They just got zero help from their offense. This was cute for a few years, but now it's just getting ridiculous. It's Florida. There should be offense.
I wouldn't count on not seeing a defense like that again until FSU. I'm not saying you will, but it's possible LSU could get there. We looked pretty stout for 11 guys suspended and out for medical reasons. By mid-season this could be a great unit.
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Yeah, looks like the same old offense as last year. At the same time, Florida won't see another defense like that until FSU. But while Callaway might've caught a few passes, neither he nor Scarlett would've blocked that UM front 7. The OL needed to be strength and it wasn't.
When no one blocks, it doesn't matter who is throwing it, catching it, or running it.
it's Doug Nussmeier. He's got to go. McElwain either needs to start calling plays himself or go out and get the best offensive co-ordinator possible. Not one of his coaching buddies in Nuss. Harbaugh lost Durkin and he called around and went out and found the best DC he could- he had never met Don Brown before.
Scarlett and Callaway are NFL talents. I think both will get drafted somewhere. They definitely would've helped out- but you're right- the issue was the OL. They've got to fix that. I did not get Florida rolling with Zaire. I thought it was a mistake. Franks was playing well up until that fumble. He was a tough kid- taking big shots and still coming back for more. And his arm is big-time. That's an NFL arm.
Florida has enough talent to win the SEC East this year. They need to re-tool the coaching. Immediately. The offense won't take a step forward as long as Nussmeier is around coaching the QB's and calling the plays. I saw him ruin the considerable potential of Devin Gardner. Franks is still young enough to have a shot. Have to dump Nuss. Asap.
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2 things I'm happy about:
1 - the suspended players weren't the reason Florida lost
2 - looks like Mac is doing what I'd do - playing the talented youngster and sticking with him, for the long-term good of the program (Franks).
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Don't you worry about anything Afroman, TN suuuccckkksss. Florida will have zero problems beating TN. All you have to worrry about is Georgia. TN WILL NOT be a threat to anyone to include Vandy. We are the new SECE bottom feeders.