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Title: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 10:56:44 AM
I was jealous, so there.

We have a LOT of new coaches.  UF LSU USCe  and probably somebody else.  This is on top of four new coaches last season, so half the league basically.

One can pencil Bama in to win the conference, duh.  UGA is going to lose a lot, they should still be able to fill the holes, but may drop back a bit.  Tennessee runs that fast paced offense that will give somebody problems but they still need more talent.  I don't know where Florida is.  LSU made a splashy hire of course, interesting to see how they recover.  A&M is on the button with some recent elite recruiting, this could be their year to take the West but they play Bama away.  I remain impressed with Kentucky.  I think they will have 8-9 win seasons with Stoops.

I don't know when OU and Texas will join, "not soon" I suspect.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 16, 2022, 11:05:53 AM
What about the Rebels, Hawgs, Cocks, Mizzou and the other Dawgs? 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 16, 2022, 11:11:25 AM
A podcast was questioning UGA's QB for next year, suggesting it's unlikely Bennett would start.

What more must he do? lol
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 11:46:47 AM
Bennett may not be back next year.  And they have a crowded QB room with another 5 star coming in.  I suspect someone will portal out.

The Hogs should be very good again, I think, folks there are excited by this past season.  Pittman is a very good coach IMHO.  He is building them the right way.

USCe will be 6-6ish.  Mizzou will lame it up at 6-6.  Miss State will probably be 7-5 and upset somebody like A&M.  Ole Miss will be similar, maybe 8-4ish, give or take 4 wins.  LSU I have no clue.  Florida has some issues I think with mindset.  I expect that to take a year or so to sort out.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 11:53:52 AM
I'm most interested in LSU. Brian Kelly is a good coach, but usually takes a few years to get going. Not sure LSU is big on giving guys a few years to get going, and the media is going to be on them like crazy.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 16, 2022, 12:03:11 PM
Trying hard not to feel too bad for purple face
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 12:06:49 PM
Saban started out 8-4, 10-3, 8-5, before the 13-1. That is 20 years ago of course, hard to believe it's been that long.  I think if Kelly manages 8-4, 10-3, 9-4, he would survive but feel some warmth.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 12:18:08 PM
Saban started out 8-4, 10-3, 8-5, before the 13-1. That is 20 years ago of course, hard to believe it's been that long.  I think if Kelly manages 8-4, 10-3, 9-4, he would survive but feel some warmth.
Saban also had the advantage of not having to coach against Nick Saban
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 12:29:59 PM
Folks dislike Saban generally, I don't completely get why other than that his teams win a lot.  I suppose folks disliked Urban nearly as much?

I can't find it in me to dislike a coach just because he's a winner, if he is all mouth, OK, I get that, if he has no class, sure, I'm not a fan of Kelly for some reasons, I don't really dislike him, I don't admire him much though.  Harbaugh is a bit annoying at times.  I don't see anything bad about Day or Smart.

I guess folks disliked John Wooden?  Maybe?  No SM back then.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 16, 2022, 04:39:21 PM
A podcast was questioning UGA's QB for next year, suggesting it's unlikely Bennett would start.

What more must he do? lol
Alabama won the SEC and played for a national title in a "down year" for them.

Bryce Young was a RS Frosh. Yeah, I've got them winning it all next year.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 16, 2022, 04:41:56 PM
A podcast was questioning UGA's QB for next year, suggesting it's unlikely Bennett would start.

What more must he do? lol
does Bennett have eligibility left? I thought he was a 6th year guy in 2021.

The kid made huge plays vs Michigan and Bama in the playoff. Downfield big-time throws. He wasn't just game manager. He made big plays to help Georgia win a national title. I'm with you, if he's got eligibility how the hell is he not the starter?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 04:56:57 PM
He has a year left.  I think he may transfer, really.  JT Daniels is still around, so far, along with Brick Vandegrift and this new kid named "Gunner" Stockton who is supposed to be a something.  This is an amusing post from last year expecting JT to be the Guy.

Georgia Football 2022 QB Battle Just Got a Bit More Interesting - Sports Illustrated Georgia Bulldogs News, Analysis and More (https://www.si.com/college/georgia/news/georgia-football-2022-qb-battle-interesting)

If Stetson Bennett IV is running it back, what does that mean for UGA's QB room? (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/if-stetson-bennettiv-back-what-does-mean-uga-qb-room-2022/)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 16, 2022, 08:24:26 PM
Saban also had the advantage of not having to coach against Nick Saban
His start was also before LSU was LSU, which he, of course, started.  They were rubbish before him.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 17, 2022, 04:32:37 PM
And look how good Michigan State is now after he left.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 17, 2022, 04:39:41 PM
JT Daniels reported to be in the portal.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on January 17, 2022, 05:03:12 PM
JT Daniels reported to be in the portal.
makes sense. he's just not that good imo. he already lost his job at USC, then Georgia. does he have to sit out a year? I thought the portal was a one time no sit deal. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 17, 2022, 06:45:47 PM
These QBs making 2+ moves......it's sad.  Everyone needs to start, everyone needs to get to the NFL, everyone's the exception.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 17, 2022, 09:16:05 PM
He lost his jobs due to injuries 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 17, 2022, 10:04:49 PM
Gotta love ESPN headlines:

STAR PASS-RUSHER RETURNS TO UGA

Who?  Nolan Smith.

3.5 sacks.............in 15 games


FFS
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 18, 2022, 12:01:20 AM
Gotta love ESPN headlines:

STAR PASS-RUSHER RETURNS TO UGA

Who?  Nolan Smith.

3.5 sacks.............in 15 games


FFS
They're impressive. 

No pass rusher with more than six sacks ... in 15 games. But 20th in sack rate. 

(The ESPN headline game is perpetually interesting. A fun exercise in reading things into other things, when the reasoning is usually mundane. That said, not a great headline.)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 18, 2022, 12:02:23 AM
Gotta love ESPN headlines:

STAR PASS-RUSHER RETURNS TO UGA

Who?  Nolan Smith.

3.5 sacks.............in 15 games


FFS
Did you click on it?

Job.Done.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on January 18, 2022, 12:20:18 AM
 :D  OBE WAN BWARB
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 19, 2022, 01:25:56 AM
Did you click on it?

Job.Done.
No.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 19, 2022, 09:58:33 PM
Fun update on the "The SEC is only Bama" narrative:  3 different SEC national champions in the past 3 years.

How far back do you have to go for 3 B1G NC winners?  Try 56 years.  And it's still 24 if you want to count Nebraska in '97.
ACC?  31 years.  (20 if you count Miami in '01)
PAC?  67 years. (31 if you count CU in '90)

It's a joke. 
3 different NCs in the past 3 years.
4 in the past 12.
5 in the past 14.
6 in the past 23. 

The "All Bama" narrative is literally the opposite of the reality of it.  Every other conference suffers from a lack of variety at the top, not the SEC.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 19, 2022, 10:12:24 PM
well, it was all Forida back in the 80s hayday of Miami, FSU, and the gators

plenty of MNC's but then it all fell apart

not saying SEC dominance will fall apart soon, just saying,..........

 like Nebraska in the 90s and the state of Florida in the 80's and 90's, ........... nothing lasts forever
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 20, 2022, 09:26:29 PM
I agree.
BUT
all those kids aren't moving up north
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 20, 2022, 10:05:11 PM
they moved north from florida to Georgia and Bama
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 27, 2022, 07:24:33 AM
UGA will be interesting in 2022 with the QB situation and rebuilding the defense.  I expect a step back obviously, it could be a rather largish step, though they will be favored to win the East again.  I don't know where Florida will be in Year One, probably a threat.  Bama has shown how to reload, and UGA has recruited at a high level, so they can reload, they also play younger folks in rotations like Bama does.  Kirby is obviously trying to mimic Saban's methods.

As noted there is a lot of upheaval elsewhere with half the teams with new coaches (counting those with one year in already).  The Vols seem to be on an upswing, but from a low level and they need to restock talent.  They could upset someone next year with that offense.  UK seems solidly "good" now, but not great.  Arkansas is trying to do the Bama thing as well, Sam Pittman, and is building another solid team that lacks elite talent at this point.  LSU?  Whew.

A&M oddly enough is also doing a Bama, or trying.  They are amassing talent and the NIL thing is large there.  They play Bama in Tloosa next season.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: rolltidefan on January 27, 2022, 10:40:58 AM
kirby needs to do what saban did few years back and unleash the offense. kirby, like saban, will rarely if ever have a bad defense, but the game has changed and even a great defense can't stop great offenses the whole game anymore. not for a whole season. gotta have both.

uga is typically more adept at getting high quality qb's, though bama/saban have been highly successful at that as well the last 3-5 years. but uga has always had good qb's come to play for them, so should only help them transition.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 28, 2022, 09:14:47 AM
I'm not sure how UGA could "unleash the offense" more than they have.  They do pass the ball, perhaps not enough.  This hinges of course in your QB, WRs, and OL.

When you have good RBs and get a lead over mediocre teams, it makes sense to me to run a lot.  I do think that doesn't work against elite teams.  I still don't see UGA getting into shoot outs like Bama did a few times this past season, but they have Bryce Young.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 28, 2022, 01:42:46 PM
With UGA's WR injuries the past few years, they've done what they had to do.  That FR TE was a godsend.  

UGA has signed more 5* QBs the past 5 years than anyone else, and I think it's like double anyone else.  But they all also leave Athens to go elsewhere, so there's that.

Smart simply needs to keep those guys between the hedges.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 01, 2022, 01:10:41 PM
Can Bryan Harsin get Auburn off the mat or is it already too late? (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/College-football-Auburn-Tigers-Bryan-Harsin-hot-seat-transfer-portal-181921619/?fbclid=IwAR3MCoZF-UvBMJxlibw4uKQzS8LZpIWI2S8JWLOeW4YfNvEzjvY9LoCJXQQ)

Not a good look if true.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 02, 2022, 12:10:01 AM
Kind of a big day tomorrow.  

If Napier gets Florida's class into the top 20 from where it was when he was hired, Florida won't be down for long.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 02, 2022, 08:05:08 AM
247 had UF's team talent at 7th last season.  I think they have been recruiting top 20 or higher for a while.  They were at 9 in 2020.  I don't expect they will be down for long either though.

It was a one off season, not a trend.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 02, 2022, 10:05:52 PM
and A&M might not rise to the top next season

could be 3 or 4 seasons or not at all
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2022, 10:31:04 PM
I agree.
BUT
all those kids aren't moving up north
don't need them all. just a handful. Ohio State has been recruiting Florida at a high level since Tressel. Urban just kicked it into a higher gear - like he does everywhere he goes except the NFL apparently - and Day has for the most part sustained Urban's recruiting in Florida.

great thing about Florida kids - even the 5* and 4* ones - they'll go anywhere. very small percentage have any kind of loyalty to the state schools. ain't like it is at Ohio State where every god damn Ohio kid lives and dies and dreams of Ohio State or USC where every god damn LA kid automatically goes to USC- when they have even a halfway competent coach in place that is.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on February 02, 2022, 11:33:24 PM
Can Bryan Harsin get Auburn off the mat or is it already too late? (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/College-football-Auburn-Tigers-Bryan-Harsin-hot-seat-transfer-portal-181921619/?fbclid=IwAR3MCoZF-UvBMJxlibw4uKQzS8LZpIWI2S8JWLOeW4YfNvEzjvY9LoCJXQQ)

Not a good look if true.
To answer the question: No. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 03, 2022, 03:19:27 PM
and A&M might not rise to the top next season

could be 3 or 4 seasons or not at all
Yeah, I wonder why they work so hard for no reason.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 03, 2022, 03:20:09 PM
247 had UF's team talent at 7th last season.  I think they have been recruiting top 20 or higher for a while.  They were at 9 in 2020.  I don't expect they will be down for long either though.

It was a one off season, not a trend.
Top 20 isn't good enough in the SEC.  If you're 20th in the country, you're likely 8th or 9th in the conference.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 03, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
You said if they got in the top 20 they wouldn't be down for long.  That struck me as a low bar for success, and they have been top ten fairly often of late.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 03, 2022, 06:27:12 PM
You said if they got in the top 20 they wouldn't be down for long.  That struck me as a low bar for success, and they have been top ten fairly often of late.
19th is a far cry from 50th and recruiting classes tend to be low in HC transition years...which is why many of them get a "pass." 

UF's 22 class went from "shit sandwich" to "trending in the right direction."  That's all.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on February 04, 2022, 11:00:28 AM
Looks like Auburn may open again
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 04, 2022, 11:06:42 AM
Auburn cliff notes please. What's up?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: ELA on February 04, 2022, 11:17:33 AM
Auburn cliff notes please. What's up?
Bobby Petrino minus the motorcycle
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on February 04, 2022, 11:27:28 AM
Auburn cliff notes please. What's up?

Cliff Notes when you only need a "cheat sheet"

(https://i.imgur.com/q2XYAW1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on February 04, 2022, 11:41:50 AM
Bobby Petrino minus the motorcycle
But add a film room
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 11:43:40 AM
Cliff Notes when you only need a "cheat sheet"

(https://i.imgur.com/q2XYAW1.jpg)
(https://img.wattpad.com/699b1b592a6b8713fce876982f9d92e215a7b96c/68747470733a2f2f73332e616d617a6f6e6177732e636f6d2f776174747061642d6d656469612d736572766963652f53746f7279496d6167652f62536e507871386e2d5a417463513d3d2d3734352e313633656135393034323934663433313439363535363734333830382e676966)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 11:47:05 AM
https://twitter.com/joshteeter01/status/1489462242299031553?s=20&t=0tYVdk4B_aNp3wW8w1VrlQ
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 11:47:56 AM
https://twitter.com/Dylanhaugh/status/1489468734142042112?s=20&t=0tYVdk4B_aNp3wW8w1VrlQ
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 11:55:10 AM
not saying it's OK to cheat on your wife or to have sex with your employees....those are obviously big no's.....but I understand....

https://twitter.com/Phantastik6/status/1489606000579592193?s=20&t=0tYVdk4B_aNp3wW8w1VrlQ
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 04, 2022, 12:00:05 PM
Pretty damn hot.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 12:00:14 PM
https://twitter.com/pdreher53/status/1489619560621821955?s=20&t=0tYVdk4B_aNp3wW8w1VrlQ
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 12:06:28 PM
Pretty damn hot.
not saying it's OK...but I understand. 

if you're gonna go down in this kind of fashion...do it the Bryan Harsin way....go down 'cause of a smoke show. clinton was banging a chubby nasty lewinski, that chick petrino got caught with was kinda gangly & gross, arnold got caught banging the nanny who looks like a man...if you're gonna go out that way....go out the harsin way.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: utee94 on February 04, 2022, 12:09:08 PM
not saying it's OK...but I understand.

if you're gonna go down in this kind of fashion...do it the Bryan Harsin way....go down 'cause of a smoke show. clinton was banging a chubby nasty lewinski, that chick petrino got caught with was kinda gangly & gross, arnold got caught banging the nanny who looks like a man...if you're gonna go out that way....go out the harsin way.

Don't forget Hugh Grant and an unattractive street walker in LA...
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 12:14:38 PM
Don't forget Hugh Grant and an unattractive street walker in LA...
omg that one made zero sense. Hugh was trying to get a BJ from a street walking woman that looked like Dennis Rodman....when he had f**king 90s Elizabeth Hurley - one the baddest sexiest hottest bishes in the entire world at the time - at home. That is what makes it even worse. You're gonna cheat on that? With THAT? He must've been high on coke and drunk out of his mind or something.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on February 04, 2022, 12:38:16 PM
Pretty damn hot.
What I’m saying is, if you bring your mistress from across the country along with your family and you give her a job, you really should put a competent football product out on the field.

this is my analysis and I’m standing by it.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 04, 2022, 12:41:55 PM
Don't forget Hugh Grant and an unattractive street walker in LA...
And WTF was Tiger Woods thinking?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on February 04, 2022, 12:45:22 PM
And WTF was Tiger Woods thinking?
I mean, that man used every club in the bag. He had a few drivers alongside some pitching wedges. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on February 04, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
And WTF was Tiger Woods thinking?
that dude was on another level. he went crazy banging everything and anything that walked. it wasn't one mistress. it was about 150 of 'em.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2022, 12:57:17 PM
Some men are simply attracted to strange over known.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2022, 01:40:12 PM
a - You go from Boise, ID to the deep south, where the girls get dolled up for a quick trip to the grocery store....what did you think was going to happen?
b - no matter how hot they are, crazy will drive you away
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 04, 2022, 01:42:29 PM
I couldn't tell you how many times some cute young thing has come up to me down here wanting to "party".
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 11:04:50 AM
Early look at Georgia football’s quarterback room (usatoday.com) (https://ugawire.usatoday.com/2022/02/08/early-look-georgia-football-quarterback-room-stetson-bennett-brock-vandagriff/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3DltCKecN5x6Xh-gFu7PotOtvxe_McwrPMEp0QWu6rk9-dyXMhzyP-VzQ)

[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.72)]Bennett’s excellence in 2021 should not be overlooked. He finished with the [/color]40th-most efficient (https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/pass-rating-player-season.html)[color=rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.72)] passing season of all-time.[/color]

I think if he were 6'1" or more, there would be a lot less doubt about him.  It's a strange situation.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 09, 2022, 12:43:19 PM
I couldn't tell you how many times some cute young thing has come up to me down here wanting to "party".
Heh, my dental hygienist today, who is very pretty, told me she broke up with her bf and wanted to find a "gentleman".
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 10, 2022, 10:19:23 AM
Returning production numbers show Georgia will need offense to shine early in 2022 (dawgnation.com) (https://www.dawgnation.com/football/connor_in_coverage/georgia-football-returning-production-2022/W7NMGJQPY5BRTKHIEPRI2T2UME/?fbclid=IwAR03FuTU2CqynTUY0MxFaGmVJsjlegZYccaP9VL2nmqGDuDeBFnCjeGaxbM)

UGA is losing a lot, so we'll see if Smart has indeed built a Saban like program and can reload.  My guess is they will be good but no repeat, might get a NY6 bowl game.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2022, 07:35:43 AM
So, new coaches around the league and status of their program:

LSU - I lean to thinking Kelly will be a bust by LSU standards, but they will get back to 9-4ish soon.
Arkansas - Pittman building an Alabama kind of team, but with less talent.  Should be consistently 9-4ish.
Ole Miss - All over the place.
MSU - All over the place.
A&M - Time to do something serious with all that recruiting, if ever it is to happen.  NIL?
Auburn - Troubles on the Plains.  Real troubles.

South Carolina - Huge talent challenge.
Tennessee - Fast tempo offense will give opponents fits but need to build more talent, 8-5ish
Florida - I have no idea.  Should be enough talent to be pretty decent.
UK - Not a new coach, but similar to Arky, doing it the right way I think.
Mizzou - I think they are still around.
Vandy - Had the worst Vandy team last year I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on February 18, 2022, 10:37:07 AM
Whatever happened with Harsin and that smokin' assistant? I kept waiting to hear something come out after the day when it "broke", but it's been crickets. 

Was it all BS?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 18, 2022, 10:49:01 AM
Whatever happened with Harsin and that smokin' assistant? I kept waiting to hear something come out after the day when it "broke", but it's been crickets.

Was it all BS?
Auburn is retaining him, I don't know the story about the assistant that was made public.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 19, 2022, 09:23:02 AM
How Auburn, Bryan Harsin move forward as soap opera ends with Tigers coach returning for second season - CBSSports.com (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/how-auburn-bryan-harsin-move-forward-as-soap-opera-ends-with-tigers-coach-returning-for-second-season/)

The story reminds me some of Mullen at Florida, and could well have the same ending.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2022, 04:10:11 PM
College football attendance continues decline, but 1 SEC team stands as an outlier (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/arkansas-football/college-football-attendance-continues-decline-but-1-sec-team-stands-as-an-outlier/?fbclid=IwAR3mKzgawFwXuyXXeQwOQWPmXT480S-dKbrabzA8kbghkPKiMxk8L2_vZ2s)

Warning clouds for CFB?  Arky was the outlier.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on February 25, 2022, 04:28:43 PM
Soooie!
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 25, 2022, 05:22:25 PM
I like what Pittman is doing at Arkansas, a lot.  I've seen it before.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on February 28, 2022, 11:52:13 AM
SEC football quarterback rankings: Athlon Sports slots Hendon Hooker near top spot (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/SEC-football-quarterback-rankings-Athlon-Sports-slots-Hendon-Hooker-near-top-spot-183599041/#183599041_14)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 03, 2022, 07:01:02 PM
We could have a UGA-Bama rematch, twice, next year, again.  UGA's schedule:

Oregon (Atlanta) - A testy game to be sure.
Samford - Duh
At South Carolina - Can be tougher than is should be, but nope
Kent State - meh
At Mizzou - probably not
Auburn - I don't think so
Vandy - geesh
Florida - always a question mark of sorts
Tennessee - could be a stumble, but at home
At Miss State - more cowbell, probably not.
At Kentucky - They play tough usually.
Tech - Yech

Only six true home games, two of them pastries, really three with Vandy.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 04, 2022, 11:33:05 AM

Date OpponentTime/TVTickets
Saturday
Apr. 16
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/alabama-2021.png)Golden Flake A-Day GameBryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETBuy Tickets (https://fbschedules.com/2022-alabama-football-schedule/)
Saturday
Sep. 3
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/utah-state-2021.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-utah-state-football-schedule/)Utah State Aggies (https://fbschedules.com/2022-utah-state-football-schedule/)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-9-3-2022/event/105131120/)
Saturday
Sep. 10
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/texas.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-texas-football-schedule/)at Texas Longhorns (https://fbschedules.com/2022-texas-football-schedule/)DKR-Texas Memorial Stadium, Austin, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-longhorns-football-austin-tickets-9-10-2022/event/105130369/)
Saturday
Sep. 17
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ulm-warhawks-2019.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ulm-football-schedule/)ULM Warhawks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ulm-football-schedule/)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-9-17-2022/event/105131121/)
Saturday
Sep. 24
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/vanderbilt.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-vanderbilt-football-schedule/)Vanderbilt Commodores (https://fbschedules.com/2022-vanderbilt-football-schedule/)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-9-24-2022/event/105129439/)
Saturday
Oct. 1
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/arkansas.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-arkansas-football-schedule/)at Arkansas Razorbacks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-arkansas-football-schedule/)D.W.R. Razorback Stadium, Fayetteville, ARTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/arkansas-razorbacks-football-fayetteville-tickets-10-1-2022/event/105129470/)
Saturday
Oct. 8
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/texas-am.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-texas-am-football-schedule/)Texas A&M Aggies (https://fbschedules.com/2022-texas-am-football-schedule/)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-10-8-2022/event/105129441/)
Saturday
Oct. 15
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/tennessee.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-tennessee-football-schedule/)at Tennessee Volunteers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-tennessee-football-schedule/)Neyland Stadium, Knoxville, TNTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/tennessee-volunteers-football-knoxville-tickets-10-15-2022/event/105129514/)
Saturday
Oct. 22
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/mississippi-state-2021.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mississippi-state-football-schedule/)Mississippi State Bulldogs (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mississippi-state-football-schedule/) (HC)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-10-22-2022/event/105130883/)
Saturday
Oct. 29
OFF
Saturday
Nov. 5
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/lsu.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-lsu-football-schedule/)at LSU Tigers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-lsu-football-schedule/)Tiger Stadium, Baton Rouge, LATime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/lsu-tigers-football-baton-rouge-tickets-11-5-2022/event/105129570/)
Saturday
Nov. 12
(https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ole-miss-2020.png) (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ole-miss-football-schedule/)at Ole Miss Rebels (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ole-miss-football-schedule/)Vaught-Hemingway Stadium, Oxford, MSTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Ticket (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/ole-miss-rebels-football-university-tickets-11-12-2022/event/105131146/)

The only team close to them is A&M and they get them at home, Arkansas on the road is a possible stumble.  LSU?  Nah.  I set O/U at 11.5.




Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 04, 2022, 11:38:29 AM

2022 Texas A&M Football Schedule
Date OpponentTime/TVTickets
Saturday
Apr. 9
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=Texas A&M Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/texas-am.png[/img][/color]Maroon & White Spring GameKyle Field, College Station, TX2:00pm ETBuy Tickets (https://fbschedules.com/2022-texas-am-football-schedule/)
Saturday
Sep. 3
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=Sam Houston Bearkats Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/sam-houston-helmet-2021.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-sam-houston-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]Sam Houston Bearkats (https://fbschedules.com/2022-sam-houston-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-9-3-2022/event/105129520/)
Saturday
Sep. 10
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=Appalachian State Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/appalachian-st-helmet.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-appalachian-state-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]Appalachian State Mountaineers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-appalachian-state-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-9-10-2022/event/105131175/)
Saturday
Sep. 17
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=Miami (FL) Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/miami-fl.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-miami-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]Miami (FL) Hurricanes (https://fbschedules.com/2022-miami-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-9-17-2022/event/105131177/)
Saturday
Sep. 24
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=Arkansas Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/arkansas.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-arkansas-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]vs Arkansas Razorbacks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-arkansas-football-schedule/)AT&T Stadium, Arlington, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/southwest-classic-texas-a-m-vs-arkansas-arlington-tickets-9-24-2022/event/105129490/)
Saturday
Oct. 1
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=Mississippi State Bulldogs Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/mississippi-state-2021.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mississippi-state-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]at Mississippi State Bulldogs (https://fbschedules.com/2022-mississippi-state-football-schedule/)Davis Wade Stadium, Starkville, MSTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/mississippi-state-bulldogs-football-starkville-tickets-10-1-2022/event/105144666/)
Saturday
Oct. 8
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=Alabama Crimson Tide Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/alabama-2021.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-alabama-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]at Alabama Crimson Tide (https://fbschedules.com/2022-alabama-football-schedule/)Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/alabama-crimson-tide-football-tuscaloosa-tickets-10-8-2022/event/105129441/)
Saturday
Oct. 15
OFF
Saturday
Oct. 22
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=South Carolina Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/south-carolina-2019-05-13.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-carolina-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]at South Carolina Gamecocks (https://fbschedules.com/2022-south-carolina-football-schedule/)Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia, SCTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/south-carolina-gamecocks-football-columbia-tickets-10-22-2022/event/105129491/)
Saturday
Oct. 29
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=Ole Miss Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/ole-miss-2020.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ole-miss-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]Ole Miss Rebels (https://fbschedules.com/2022-ole-miss-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-10-29-2022/event/105131179/)
Saturday
Nov. 5
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=Florida Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/florida.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-florida-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]Florida Gators (https://fbschedules.com/2022-florida-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-11-5-2022/event/105129523/)
Saturday
Nov. 12
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=Auburn Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/auburn.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-auburn-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]at Auburn Tigers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-auburn-football-schedule/)Jordan-Hare Stadium, Auburn, ALTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/auburn-tigers-football-auburn-tickets-11-12-2022/event/105131143/)
Saturday
Nov. 19
[img width=62.9219 height=46 alt=UMass Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/umass-2020.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-umass-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]UMass Minutemen (https://fbschedules.com/2022-umass-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-11-19-2022/event/105129525/)
Saturday
Nov. 26
[img width=62.9219 height=46.1875 alt=LSU Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/lsu.png[/img] (https://fbschedules.com/2022-lsu-football-schedule/)[/iurl][/font][/size][/color]LSU Tigers (https://fbschedules.com/2022-lsu-football-schedule/)Kyle Field, College Station, TXTime TBA ETTV TBABuy Tickets (https://prf.hn/click/camref:1011l9Qnz/destination:https://www.stubhub.com/texas-a-m-aggies-football-college-station-tickets-11-26-2022/event/105129527/)
Saturday
Dec. 3
[img width=62.9219 height=55 alt=SEC Football Schedule]https://fbschedules.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/sec-230x230.png[/img][/color]SEC ChampionshipMercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GATime TBA ETCBS

I don't see an L other than at Bama likely.



Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 13, 2022, 01:12:40 PM
ESPN excited to see Georgia signee duo, sees dominant season from Jalen Carter (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/ESPN-excited-to-see-Georgia-signee-duo-sees-dominant-season-from-Jalen-Carter-184254361/?fbclid=IwAR2Jnsqa1i-tpcRwyE4emb56hhWgbyJ8vGkOsmCcs5KDBa6wEgSIacFFtwg)


I'm going to be interested in what Arkansas can do after a very nice year.  They get Bama at home this year.  I think they are well coached, the talent level isn't yet near the top though.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on March 13, 2022, 03:09:31 PM
Florida doesn't have a fun schedule.

We have Utah and will probably be underdogs for that one.  We get A&M from the West.  

All we can hope for is that Anthony Richardson is actually the video game QB he appeared to be early last year.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on March 17, 2022, 06:11:53 AM
Florida will be a mystery out of the gate, definitely some talent on the field as usual, but in the right places and coached up?  Dunno, will improve from last year, duh.  I expect to see more discipline, no thrown shoes etc.  The Vols appear to be on the ups and could beat them.  A&M and Utah very plausible Ls.

LSU who knows about them either?  An 8-4 or 9-3 season seems plausible.  Kentucky?  The rest of the East seems quite weak, meaning Mizzou/USCe/Vandy, FSU seems not back.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 05, 2022, 01:09:25 PM
Early opening lines:

Alabama (-31) vs. Utah State
Arkansas (-8) vs. Cincinnati
Florida vs. Utah PICK ‘EM
Georgia (-15) vs. Oregon *in Atlanta
Mississippi State (-11) vs. Memphis
LSU (-3.5) vs. Florida State *in New Orleans
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: ELA on May 05, 2022, 02:42:42 PM
We could have a UGA-Bama rematch, twice, next year, again.  UGA's schedule:
Probably.  The race to and culmination of the CFP has become exceedingly uninteresting
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 05, 2022, 02:52:45 PM
Early opening lines:

Alabama (-31) vs. Utah State
Arkansas (-8) vs. Cincinnati
Florida vs. Utah PICK ‘EM


This tells us all we need to know about the PAC-12.
A top 10, possibly top 5 Utah team goes into the Swamp against an unranked/barely-ranked Florida and it's a toss up game. 

.
That's sad for them.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 05, 2022, 03:26:41 PM
To be fair, none of the Utes likely have played in a place like The Swamp.

It's probably worth a few points of course.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 05, 2022, 04:26:37 PM
One has.

LB Mohamoud Diabate transferred from Florida to the Utes.  He's a skinny LB trying to replace Lloyd. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2022, 06:26:54 PM
SEC spring football recaps - Breaking down the offseason for each team (espn.com) (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/33854988/sec-spring-football-recaps-breaking-offseason-team)

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2022, 12:42:01 PM
Regression is coming for Georgia's defense, but how much? Let's dig into that (saturdaydownsouth.com) (https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/georgia-football/regression-is-coming-for-georgia-defense-but-how-much-lets-dig-into-that/?fbclid=IwAR34kLZXXwDEHucrQPT3N4n1GLfCKL_DiN1-p_KAqW_natCbNzponGmQJQs)

Some interesting comparisons and reasonable forecast I think.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2022, 06:55:14 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/XLOjlhd.png)

A lot of teams predicted to have a middlin year.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 13, 2022, 07:21:36 PM
These are hilarious.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2022, 07:25:50 PM
Which one is the most hilarious in your view?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2022, 02:51:54 PM
Kentucky's peak.
The fact that Alabama's most likely loss other than A&M is Texas?!?
The fact that in a worst-case scenario, Florida beats either Utah or FSU.
.
This seems to look at last year in a vacuum.  Suddenly Arkansas and South Carolina are good to go, as if they weren't utter dumpster fires 1 year ago.  Non-helmets tend not to have a positive, linear trajectory to success.  
Conversely, the idea that Florida and LSU's peaks are 2 games behind UK's ignores everything pre-2021.  While intuitively it shouldn't be true, but programs that have "been there before" tend to get back there more often and more easily than programs that have not.  Whether it's down-roster talent level or deep-down expectation level or what, the UKs of the world tend to have a few good years and then regress.  The Floridas and LSUs tend to have a few poor years and then improve.
.
All that being said, I haven't looked at the schedule-by-schedule outlook for all the teams, but this jus seems to be far too linear and too much recency bias for me.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2022, 04:25:18 PM
Arkansas was a dumpster fire last year?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2022, 05:04:13 PM
Arkansas was a dumpster fire last year?
They finished 1-5 to close out 2020, coming off a 2-10 record the year before.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2022, 05:43:58 PM
I think of "last year" as being 2021 for some reason.  Uk did pretty well last year as well, and has a decent shot at another solid year.

Tennessee has "been there" before, but not for a while.  I personally don't find those guesses "hilarious", any of them.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2022, 06:08:54 PM
We have a difference of opinion?  
You don't say.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2022, 06:12:21 PM
Arkansas had a pretty good year LAST YEAR.  I don't view that as an opinion.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2022, 07:06:52 PM
It is an opinion.  But I agree with it.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 02:31:26 PM
SEC Games of the Week for 2022

Week 1  UGA-Oregon in ATL, UGA is pretty heavily favored so far.
             Cincinnati at Arkansas - interesting matchup I think, probably not what Arky guessed when scheduled

Week 2  Bama at Texas
             Pitt at Tennessee (the Vols need this one)
             UK at Florida

Week 3  Penn State at Auburn
             Miami at A&M

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 03:39:53 PM
Week 4  Florida at Tennessee
             Arkansas at A&M (position in the West)

Week 5  Bama at Arky (upset potential)

Week 6  Tenn at LSU
             A&M at Bama

Week 7  Bama at Tenn
             LSU at Florida
             MSU at UK

Week 8   Ole Miss at LSU

Week 9   Florida- Georgia
              Arky at Auburn (big  game if Arky is good)

Week 10  Tenn art UGA
               Florida at A&M  *the Gators don't get a schedule break
               Bama at LSU

Week 11  UGA at MSU (could be a slip)

Week 12  UGA at UK

Week 13  Iron Bowl
              various rivalries
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Abba on June 14, 2022, 03:44:39 PM
I would add Utah @ Florida as a very interesting game for the trajectory of both teams.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 03:55:41 PM
Thanks, no doubt, I missed it somehow.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2022, 03:55:55 PM
I haven't dug into the PAC at all. Does Utah return a good bit of their team?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 14, 2022, 04:01:09 PM
I would add Utah @ Florida as a very interesting game for the trajectory of both teams.
Agreed.  

It will be interesting to see how Utah does in 2022 and beyond.  They finished 10-4 and #12 in 2021, good for them.  Also, they finished on a tear.  They started just 1-2 with an FCS win and two bad losses (BYU and SDSU).  After that they went 9-2 with a road loss to the Beavers and the Rose Bowl loss to Ohio State.  Their biggest accomplishment of 2021 was beating the higher ranked Ducks not once but twice.  

Their defense was superb most of the year (held Oregon to a combined total of just 17 points in TWO meetings) but seemed to disappear in games against teams with the initials "OSU".  They gave up 468 yards and 42 points to Oregon State (this was the most points scored by OrSU all year) then got torched for 48 points and almost 700 yards in the Rose Bowl with the Buckeyes setting multiple Rose Bowl records in the process.  

Can the Utes build on last year or will it turn out to be a mirage?  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Abba on June 14, 2022, 04:28:04 PM
They have some key pieces back such as their starting QB and RB and they have a CB who I think may end up being a first rounder some day.  I believe they lost some of their front-7 pieces, including a star LB.  I would put them as the Pac 12 favorite right now, but can they come to SEC country and steal a win against the Gators?  And how good will those Gators be?  Another 6 win team, or do they put it together and make a play for the SEC East.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Abba on June 14, 2022, 04:30:16 PM
Agreed. 

It will be interesting to see how Utah does in 2022 and beyond.  They finished 10-4 and #12 in 2021, good for them.  Also, they finished on a tear.  They started just 1-2 with an FCS win and two bad losses (BYU and SDSU).  After that they went 9-2 with a road loss to the Beavers and the Rose Bowl loss to Ohio State.  Their biggest accomplishment of 2021 was beating the higher ranked Ducks not once but twice. 

Their defense was superb most of the year (held Oregon to a combined total of just 17 points in TWO meetings) but seemed to disappear in games against teams with the initials "OSU".  They gave up 468 yards and 42 points to Oregon State (this was the most points scored by OrSU all year) then got torched for 48 points and almost 700 yards in the Rose Bowl with the Buckeyes setting multiple Rose Bowl records in the process. 

Can the Utes build on last year or will it turn out to be a mirage? 

I'm not sure about the Oregon State game, but against the Buckeyes they were very injured in the secondary.  They basically had a running back starting back there, so although JSN had a monster game, let's not get too excited.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 14, 2022, 04:58:12 PM
I'm not sure about the Oregon State game, but against the Buckeyes they were very injured in the secondary.  They basically had a running back starting back there, so although JSN had a monster game, let's not get too excited.
From the perspective of Utah, I think that the OrSU game is a much bigger concern.  You can chalk up the RB to injuries or end-of-season or just it is the Buckeyes, they scored a lot of points on most opponents. The Buckeyes were an 11-2 team that finished ranked #6 and Ohio State scored at least 48 points last year in six other games (Akron, Rutgers, Maryland, Indiana, Purdue, and MSU).  

Oregon State is different.  The Beavers finished unranked and barely over .500 and scored at least 42 points in only three other games (Hawaii, Idaho, USC).  

Maybe OrSU was just "one of those days".  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Abba on June 14, 2022, 05:03:34 PM
That game was also late October.  They were 4-3 after that game, but then won 6 straight games including the 2 beatdowns of Oregon.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 05:04:58 PM
The SEC must have expanded while I wasn't watching ....
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 14, 2022, 05:17:06 PM
The SEC must have expanded while I wasn't watching ....
This is the first time I've ever seen this board go off-topic, LoL.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 05:22:53 PM
Beer ....
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 14, 2022, 05:23:24 PM
Chili has no beans.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2022, 05:28:59 PM
Interestingly, I have found no chili parlors around here, at all.  Some places offer chili of course, but usually as a "condiment" to a burger. Brunswick stew I suppose is the substitute, which is fine with me, though I like both.  With grits.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 14, 2022, 06:24:27 PM
you can only find true chili in Texas and New Mexico

according to Utee94
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2022, 08:32:41 AM
FOX Sports analyst Joel Klatt unveiled his preseason college football top five on Tuesday afternoon.

Not surprisingly, Klatt has Alabama atop his personal poll. Ohio State is next, with defending national champion Georgia coming in third.

Those seem to be popular picks for the first three teams on various preseason rankings lists. It's after the top three where you find some variance among experts.

Klatt has Texas A&M and Notre Dame rounding out his top five. The Aggies are coming off an 8-4 season and Gator Bowl berth, though they were unable to play in the game due to COVID-19. Jimbo Fisher's team went 9-1 and won the Orange Bowl in 2020, narrowly missing the College Football Playoff.

The team that beat out the Aggies for a CFP spot that season? Notre Dame, which went 11-2 in 2021, but lost to Oklahoma State in the Fiesta Bowl.

Klatt is clearly a big believer in new ND head coach Marcus Freeman.

Klatt appears to be a Big Ten believer, judging by the fact he has Michigan and Michigan State just outside the top five. Utah and Clemson are also lurking.

The most notable omissions from Klatt's list are Oklahoma and USC. We'll see how his rankings match up to the preseason Coaches and AP polls when they are unveiled in August.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2022, 08:40:08 AM
As noted, about everyone has the same top three and then variation, the teams apparently lower than that have questions (as do the three).

It's mildy amusing of course, but irrelevant to much of anything.  An unranked team can make the playoffs at 12-1.  I'm going with UCLA having a shot, as do some others.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2022, 10:16:31 AM
you can only find true chili in Texas and New Mexico

according to Utee94
You can find it in my kitchen on occasion.

Talked to Burny last night. You can find it in his Tennessee kitchen.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2022, 10:18:35 AM
My wife likes my "chili", which is southern style I reckon, tomatoes and ground beef, served over rice.  No beans, I used to use beans but I discovered I really don't like them in chili.  It goes well with beer, like 420, which my wife also likes.

The Sweetwater brewery/bar is a nice location, pretty good food, great patio, but not in this weather.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 15, 2022, 01:36:52 PM
Steele credited Georgia with having four top-five individual units: receiving — which includes wide receivers and tight ends — offensive line, linebackers and defensive backs. Steele has Georgia’s receiving unit as No. 4 in the country, its offensive line as No. 2 in the country, its linebackers as No. 3 in the country and its defensive backs as No. 1 in the country.

I understand why Stetson Bennett is widely ranked so low, he's short, he was not highly recruited, and he's short.  I do find it rather amusing in a sense, he seems to get it done one way or the other.  His NFL potential is probably UDA at best, probably not even that.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 15, 2022, 01:44:00 PM
My wife likes my "chili", which is southern style I reckon, tomatoes and ground beef, served over rice.  No beans, I used to use beans but I discovered I really don't like them in chili.  It goes well with beer, like 420, which my wife also likes.

The Sweetwater brewery/bar is a nice location, pretty good food, great patio, but not in this weather.
So I do this fusion dish, inspired by a meal I had at a place up North that didn't survive 2020.

It's Texas chili over Korean fried rice, finished with fried lo mien noodles.

Pretty good. But it's no longer chili.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 15, 2022, 09:46:31 PM
Sounds like some kind of flying spaghetti monster.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 15, 2022, 10:39:00 PM
rice and noodles???

too many carbs
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 18, 2022, 05:41:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Pqyhqku.png)

I find the UK and LSU placement interesting.  I'm surprised Arky is so low, might be schedule related?  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 19, 2022, 02:04:57 AM
If these numbers were anywhere close to correct, they shouldn't bother with the games.  
A division-winner can hinge on 1 upset.....and upsets are inevitable.  I'd love to know their methodology.
.
I think when it comes to these and the "% chance of winning" graph during a game, with its wide variances, needs to really be called what it really is:  teams in thhis situation at this part of the game have won this % of the time.  
.
All this stuff in the hands of the average fan get bastardized, with no help from those producing it all.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 19, 2022, 02:44:41 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/Pqyhqku.png)

I find the UK and LSU placement interesting.  I'm surprised Arky is so low, might be schedule related? 
I can dig into the numbers at a later point, but the percentages tend to compound in certain ways.

FWIW, Arkansas has a brutal non-conference, but the crossovers aren’t anything special.also worth noting, one team was within three games of those favorites in the standings last season.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2022, 06:13:56 AM
Says they are based on FPI, which projects winning chances, or tries to.  Presuming FPI means anything at all, one can calculate the odds of winning each conference game and thus the odds of winning said conference.  I don't personally value preseason FPI that much at all, but it's a list, and I LOVE lists.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2022, 07:59:01 AM
Everything you need to know about College FPI - Stats & Info- ESPN (https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/122612/an-inside-look-at-college-fpi)

FPI is an attempt to quantify how we rank every team and choose favorites, I guess everyone here knows this.  It seems to work pretty well, according to the above.  It deals in probabilities, so it sort of can't be wrong in a sense.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on June 19, 2022, 09:46:12 AM
Alabama wins. The end.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 19, 2022, 10:48:21 AM
Bama gets A&M at home, which helps, and they have a revenge factor and coaching apparent animosity.  The play @ Arkansas and Tennessee and LSU and Ole Miss, so their conference road slate is not a walk in the park.  The Vols start to look dangerous now, I think, probably not enough depth to play every week.

They can lose one because it's unlikely whoever beats them only loses one or zero.  UGA has an easier path to Atlanta.  I am fairly sure Bama would be favored over UGA.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2022, 01:00:32 PM
Brock Bowers: FULL HIGHLIGHTS from 2021 season | CBS Sports HQ - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCzN2fUNArA&t=159s)

I think the best FR TE I've ever seen.  Out of Napa.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 28, 2022, 02:43:20 PM
What are some other notable FR TEs?  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Abba on June 28, 2022, 02:54:12 PM
Not easy to find productive freshman TEs as most don't do much until their sophomore or even junior years.  Here's 2 reasonable contenders, but I'm sure there are more that could be found:

Heath Miller 2002 33/327/9
Chase Coffman 2005 - 47/503/4


Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2022, 03:35:50 PM
Orson Charles at UGA is probably the best other one they had, and Darnell Washington had a decent freshman season in the COVID year.

But there aren't many to consider.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 29, 2022, 06:57:37 AM
Yeah, he may be the best (Bowers), but not a lot of competition there, lol.  So he gets credit for being unique, but maybe he's like Usain Bolt vs a bunch of midgets.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 14, 2022, 01:09:43 PM
It's the time of year for silly articles, I just glanced over one about how UGA is being "overlooked" in the preseason.

I thought that pretty silly but it probably got clicks.

Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 18, 2022, 11:55:12 AM
SEC Media Days 2022: Preseason conference power rankings in tiers (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/SEC-Media-Days-2022-Preseason-conference-power-rankings-in-tiers--190185872/#190185872_10)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 20, 2022, 11:34:34 AM
2022 SEC Media Days: How the preseason order of finish should look (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/2022-SEC-Media-Days-How-the-preseason-order-of-finish-should-look-190222657/#190222657_8)

Predictable really, a lot of mush in the middle though.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 21, 2022, 02:50:02 PM
Kirby Smart: 10-year, $112.5M deal
Lincoln Riley: 10-year, $110M deal
Brian Kelly: 10-year, $100M deal
Mel Tucker: 10-year, $95M deal
Jimbo Fisher: 10-year, $94.95M deal


In ten years, those numbers might look a bit more prosaic.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 21, 2022, 03:11:22 PM
in 20 years there might be a capital "B" behind the number
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 22, 2022, 05:17:47 PM
The Jeremy Pruitt era is over in Knoxville with the former head coach fired after going 16-19 over 3 seasons at Tennessee. Unfortunately for the Volunteers, his time with the program was mired with a number of violations.

According to a Friday afternoon report from Adam Sparks with the Knoxville News Sentinel, Tennessee was flagged for 18 Level I violations stemming from Pruitt’s time as head coach. The violations were revealed in a 51-page report detailing $60,000 worth of cash/gifts given to football recruits and players by Pruitt, his wife, numerous coaches, staff and boosters.

To Tennessee’s credit, the Vols made multiple changes in the athletics department and football staff in the wake of the Pruitt era.

In the notice of allegations, the NCAA credited Tennessee for self-reporting violations and its “exemplary cooperation” in the investigation. It also did not find the university lacked institutional control, a significant decision that likely removes the program from program-crippling levels of punishment.

The NCAA contends Pruitt and his staff gave players cash and gifts throughout his tenure with the Vols from 2018-21. And it says that his wife, Casey Pruitt, paid more than $15,000 in rent and car payments for a Tennessee player and his mother over 2½ years.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Gigem on July 23, 2022, 12:08:06 AM
Amazing. And much of it would be legal now if done correctly. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 23, 2022, 08:45:28 AM
I hope that even when it was legal, he'd still use McDonalds bags.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2022, 09:18:26 AM
Not easy to find productive freshman TEs as most don't do much until their sophomore or even junior years.  Here's 2 reasonable contenders, but I'm sure there are more that could be found:

Heath Miller 2002 33/327/9
Chase Coffman 2005 - 47/503/4



Earned first letter, playing in all 13 games with 2 starts at tight end … Badgers' second-leading receiver with 36 receptions for 456 yards and 4 touchdowns.


King Barry's grandson in 2018.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 23, 2022, 09:27:52 AM
Bowers had a great season for any TE, some huge plays and some impressive runs.

I think he'd be a first round draft pick now.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: utee94 on July 23, 2022, 09:38:40 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/rz5IA3A.png)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 23, 2022, 09:46:17 AM
the pirate

(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/5s-qQCbV3QBJkx9vxuk3HhQwM-U=/1400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19242694/GUt6WRdK_400x400.jpg)
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 23, 2022, 09:47:16 AM
Gotta love it.

And Lea.. lots to say about what?
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 23, 2022, 09:49:16 AM
it's his chance at 10 minutes of fame

no one will listen to him all season
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 23, 2022, 09:55:02 AM
Miss State likely will upset someone this year, I hope it's not us.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 23, 2022, 06:52:18 PM
Gotta love it.

And Lea.. lots to say about what?
Trying to figure out who voted for Vandy to win the East.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 25, 2022, 08:59:55 AM
Probably the Pirate
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on July 25, 2022, 09:07:10 AM
Gotta love it.

And Lea.. lots to say about what?
He is in excitement/recruiting coach, so talking a lot is in the wheelhouse.

also, if he doesn’t talk a lot, the reporters there might just not ask enough questions and he would have to leave before the allotted time is up. And that would look bad
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on July 25, 2022, 09:10:01 AM
Trying to figure out who voted for Vandy to win the East.
Someone who thinks predictions and rankings are stupid. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 25, 2022, 12:32:17 PM
Someone who thinks predictions and rankings are stupid.
Stupid predictions are especially stupid.  
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: utee94 on July 25, 2022, 02:03:06 PM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1550498438177067015?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550498438177067015%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrett_McMurphy%2Fstatus%2F1550498438177067015%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc255Etfw257Ctwcamp255Etweetembed257Ctwterm255E1550498438177067015257Ctwgr255E257Ctwcon255Es1_26ref_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrett_McMurphy%2Fstatus%2F1550498438177067015%3Fs%3D2026t%3Dt0o5ASd3UJdeTSiQBKeulw
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on July 26, 2022, 08:12:56 AM
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1550498438177067015?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1550498438177067015%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrett_McMurphy%2Fstatus%2F1550498438177067015%3Fref_src%3Dtwsrc255Etfw257Ctwcamp255Etweetembed257Ctwterm255E1550498438177067015257Ctwgr255E257Ctwcon255Es1_26ref_url%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.surlyhorns.com%2Fboard%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrett_McMurphy%2Fstatus%2F1550498438177067015%3Fs%3D2026t%3Dt0o5ASd3UJdeTSiQBKeulw
LOL. 

I'd say A&M and Vandy have the same shot. None. It'll be BAMA 99.99%. Georgia has a shot though, for sure. 
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on July 26, 2022, 08:20:59 AM
I'd say A&M has something like a 5% chance, Vandy's chances are 1 in a billion or so.  A&M's problem is they've shown they can beat Bama but then lose twice more later.

UGA has shown they can compete with Bama in recruiting and on the field.

Florida has a tough slate.
Title: Re: 2022 SEC Off Season Thread
Post by: Gigem on July 26, 2022, 02:26:35 PM
We're doomed.