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Title: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 11, 2022, 12:00:20 PM
That is the biggest gap since LSU's 2007 NC which was their first in almost half a century.  

It is interesting, in the 30 years from 1980-2009 the vast majority of NC's were either winning their first or at least their first in over a decade:



In those 30 years nearly a third of the NC's were winning their first ever for that school.  Fully one half hadn't won the NC in more than 30 years, two-thirds hadn't won it in more than a decade.  Only seven of thirty had won it within six years previously.  

In the 12 years since it has been a different story:

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 11, 2022, 12:00:43 PM
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Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Gigem on January 11, 2022, 04:52:48 PM
1939 was a long, long time ago. 

Here’s to breaking UGa’s record ! 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 11, 2022, 06:28:12 PM
UGA claims 1942 also
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 11, 2022, 10:24:51 PM
Fun fact:  during their last NC in 1980, they were on Uga III and now the current mascot is Uga X.  
It was 6 white English bulldogs between NCs.

Uga Ten has the best win % of any Uga, although only 4th in wins.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 12, 2022, 04:53:12 AM
Bulldogs of this ilk have a lot of health issues.  They are all buried in Sanford Stadium except the current one.  After 1980, I had the infantile notion NCs would become commonplace.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 12, 2022, 10:49:12 AM
UGA claims 1942 also
For consistency I went with AP NC's only.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 12, 2022, 12:22:45 PM
1942 is a sketchy claim anyway.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 12, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
Georgia’s Defense Lived Up To Its Billing As One Of The Best Ever | FiveThirtyEight (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/georgias-defense-lived-up-to-its-billing-as-one-of-the-best-ever/)

By efficiency, this Georgia defense is among the best ever
Seasonlong defensive efficiency ratings for college football national champions since 2005

Line chart showing seasonlong defensive efficiency ratings for the college football national champions since 2005, with Georgia's 93.56 just below Alabama's 2011 rating of 94.51
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Alabama's 2011 squad still holds the high-water mark among champs, but just barely

93.67

FiveThirtyEight

SOURCE: ESPN STATS & INFORMATION GROUP



Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 12, 2022, 01:35:03 PM
Stetson Bennett Good Morning America: UGA QB interviewed [video] - Sports Illustrated (https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/01/11/stetson-bennett-good-morning-america-interview-georgia-video?utm_source=recommendations&utm_medium=in-article&utm_campaign=end-of-story)

He seems a bit tired...
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 12, 2022, 01:40:20 PM
UGA nearly misses a 'perfect defense' rating in Whoa Nellie, falling just short in passing D.  But it has a robust 00-20 sack score, which is high.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 13, 2022, 12:32:33 PM
I'm already seeing speculation by Talking Heads about whether Kirby can win it again, soon.  Just enjoy what is for a bit, eh?

I was walking back from my haircut ponder how many plays in football are inches from being something else, like that first TD catch by the Dawgs.  It was good coverage, the WR just wrestled the ball away as it was thrown a bit short.  Stetson's "fumble" was a hair from going OB.  Young's non-fumble was a hair from being a fumble.

Plays that could easily have gone the other way.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 13, 2022, 12:44:13 PM
I'm already seeing speculation by Talking Heads about whether Kirby can win it again, soon.  Just enjoy what is for a bit, eh?

I was walking back from my haircut ponder how many plays in football are inches from being something else, like that first TD catch by the Dawgs.  It was good coverage, the WR just wrestled the ball away as it was thrown a bit short.  Stetson's "fumble" was a hair from going OB.  Young's non-fumble was a hair from being a fumble.

Plays that could easily have gone the other way.
Yep.

But maybe we should just assign a narrative that Georgia just "wanted it more" or perhaps that Alabama has CFP fatigue... 

Prior to the game, FPI predicted a 58.4% Georgia win percentage in this game. Which means that if you play the game 1000 times, we'd predict that Georgia wins 584 and Alabama wins 416. Some of those would be tight games. Some of those would be blowouts either way. All of which would be within the statistical likelihood of probable outcomes. If they'd been blowouts, you'd be DAMN sure we'd be writing narratives about it.  

In this game, Alabama outgained Georgia by 35 yards. Alabama converted 3rd downs at 45% to Georgia's 33%. Alabama ran 85 offensive plays to Georgia's 56. Alabama held the ball for 31 and a half minutes. 

Alabama lost because they were -1 in the TO battle and they were less able to convert scores into touchdowns rather than field goals. 

Statistically, the two teams weren't that far from even. Yet it was a 15-point victory for the Dawgs. And a few Georgia turnovers/mistakes/etc could have swung the margin to a 15-point Bama win quite easily... 

This is why other sports play a 7-game series in the playoffs. Football is IMHO somewhat more deterministic (i.e. stronger team winning) than other sports, but not so much that a single game's outcome actually tells you all that much. But we have to talk about it like it means everything. 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 13, 2022, 12:49:26 PM
I'm a believer that contested games USUALLY come down to turnovers and other unpredictable flukes, but the Talking Heads have to try and analyze and predict.  I bet if we surveyed games with no more than a 4 point spread, the team winning the TO battle wins 75-80% of them.

Then there are the other fluke unpredictable plays that happen.  For a team that is a 15 point favorite, it rarely matters.  It just makes a closer win.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: utee94 on January 13, 2022, 12:49:55 PM
Yep.

But maybe we should just assign a narrative that Georgia just "wanted it more" or perhaps that Alabama has CFP fatigue...

Prior to the game, FPI predicted a 58.4% Georgia win percentage in this game. Which means that if you play the game 1000 times, we'd predict that Georgia wins 584 and Alabama wins 416. Some of those would be tight games. Some of those would be blowouts either way. All of which would be within the statistical likelihood of probable outcomes. If they'd been blowouts, you'd be DAMN sure we'd be writing narratives about it. 

In this game, Alabama outgained Georgia by 35 yards. Alabama converted 3rd downs at 45% to Georgia's 33%. Alabama ran 85 offensive plays to Georgia's 56. Alabama held the ball for 31 and a half minutes.

Alabama lost because they were -1 in the TO battle and they were less able to convert scores into touchdowns rather than field goals.

Statistically, the two teams weren't that far from even. Yet it was a 15-point victory for the Dawgs. And a few Georgia turnovers/mistakes/etc could have swung the margin to a 15-point Bama win quite easily...

This is why other sports play a 7-game series in the playoffs. Football is IMHO somewhat more deterministic (i.e. stronger team winning) than other sports, but not so much that a single game's outcome actually tells you all that much. But we have to talk about it like it means everything.


Well... we don't HAVE to.  Some folks CHOOSE to.

You can count me out of all that bulljive.

Still, a win is a win, and Georgia fans can rightfully celebrate winning the game, and the national championship, under our current system's rules.

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 13, 2022, 12:54:41 PM
UGA ended with wins over 

#21 Arky  37-0
#18 Kentucky  30-14
#14 Clemson  10-3 could have gone the other way
#3 Michigan  34-11
#2 Alabama (plus a loss)  33-18 could have gone the other way

Not bad.  In some alternate universe, they lost to Clemson and didn't make the playoff and would have played in the Sugar Bowl.

They clearly had a very good team, but I reflect on how other very good teams simply don't make it, like Ohio State in 1998.

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on January 13, 2022, 01:18:23 PM
Georgia is the champion. They deserve congratulations. They won it on the field. That's in the history books and will be henceforth. 




We know that Georgia is recruiting well. We've seen that they appear to be well coached. We know demographically and with the way the changes of the sport are headed, and relative conference [lack of] parity, I'd probably throw down money if given better than even odds that Georgia will win at least one more in the next decade. I'd call it better than 50/50. 

But... Crap. That's not at all a controversial "hot take" and that entire sentiment wouldn't take more than 30 seconds or so of airtime. 

I guess I'll never be a talking head. 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 13, 2022, 04:26:38 PM
I'm a believer that contested games USUALLY come down to turnovers and other unpredictable flukes, but the Talking Heads have to try and analyze and predict.  I bet if we surveyed games with no more than a 4 point spread, the team winning the TO battle wins 75-80% of them.

Then there are the other fluke unpredictable plays that happen.  For a team that is a 15 point favorite, it rarely matters.  It just makes a closer win.
This made me think about 1970 ND.
I just made it for Whoa Nellie.
Joe Theismann had 526 yards passing in their only loss (to USC).  The Irish were -8 in turnovers and only lost by 10 points. 
Yeah, that'll do it, lol.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 13, 2022, 06:01:03 PM
I think this discussion renders what Bama has done of late rather impressive (not that it wasn't already).  To win an NC, you need to recruit consistently at a very high level and take several shots figuring maybe one in three gets home.  Clemson as well.

LSU had a miracle one off, so far.  Ohio State of course always is lurking.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 13, 2022, 06:54:19 PM
This was a "down" Alabama.  1st Rd QB gone, 1st Rd RB gone, Heisman-winning WR gone, OL issues, run D issues early, etc......but look at what they still did.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Gigem on January 13, 2022, 07:03:27 PM
It’s fairly straightforward for me. Georgia is recruiting at an elite level for many, many years. They have great coaches, facilities, and fan support. They’re in the best conference. They will continue to be a contender for years to come. 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: FearlessF on January 13, 2022, 10:32:01 PM
Osborne, after winning the big one, stated that it takes a little luck

He never mentioned that when he lost the big one, but he mentioned it all 3 times he was lucky enough to get the win

as on the golf course, better to be lucky than good

but, you have to be very good to get into the 4-team playoff and pretty good to just to be able to grab enough luck to win
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 03:15:18 AM
Yup, I figure usually at least 3 of the teams in the CFP are very very good, and capable of beating you half the time, the other one would need some breaks, maybe could beat you 25% of the time, so the odds are against you no matter how good you are unless you are unusually great.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 14, 2022, 03:30:54 AM
A lot of the "luck" element is simply when you have your good or great year. 

Ohio State was incredible in 2019 but Clemson was just as good and LSU was better. That team might have won it all in a different year. 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 03:33:43 AM
Very true, it helps obviously to have your "elite year" when everyone else is a bit down.  Why are we awake?
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: bayareabadger on January 14, 2022, 09:00:59 AM
A lot of the "luck" element is simply when you have your good or great year.

Ohio State was incredible in 2019 but Clemson was just as good and LSU was better. That team might have won it all in a different year.
(Whispers quietly ... I think OSU could've taken LSU. It would've had to be really feeling it, but Clemson was in that game at points, despite Lawrence being pretty out of sync. Granted, it would've been a shootout for the ages)
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2022, 10:01:00 AM
even when the stars align and you have your elite season at the opportune time

just a bit of bad luck in one playoff game can derail the train

the better team doesn't always win
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 14, 2022, 10:01:45 AM
(Whispers quietly ... I think OSU could've taken LSU. It would've had to be really feeling it, but Clemson was in that game at points, despite Lawrence being pretty out of sync. Granted, it would've been a shootout for the ages)
According to the ranking that you posted in another thread, Ohio State that year was not only better than Clemson but also better than LSU and one of the very best CFP teams of the eight-year CFP era and I *THINK* those rankings are end-of-year so AFTER tOSU lost to Clemson and LSU beat them.  

That said, I think one thing that those rankings do NOT reflect is the fact that some teams (usually younger ones) improve more over the course of a season than others.  If LSU and tOSU played in early 2019, I'd take Ohio State and be willing to give up some points.  LSU really came on late so in January . . .  Well, I wouldn't feel like tOSU had no chance but I also wouldn't be very confident.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 10:50:22 AM
How often have we had blow outs in the NC game?  Not very, a couple I recall (including the BCS).  Teams are pretty evenly matched usually, and OSU would have been competitive with LSU that year, though LSU would be favored.  Burreaux was just that good.

But one chance in three is pretty decent odds, and that is about a 7 point dog, and a turnover or two, not to mention those close passes that are tipped, or get home, or are dropped, etc.

Most teams will need to make the CFP several times to win an NC, it could be the first time.  Or not.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 14, 2022, 11:25:31 AM
How often have we had blow outs in the NC game?  Not very, a couple I recall (including the BCS).  Teams are pretty evenly matched usually, and OSU would have been competitive with LSU that year, though LSU would be favored.  Burreaux was just that good.

But one chance in three is pretty decent odds, and that is about a 7 point dog, and a turnover or two, not to mention those close passes that are tipped, or get home, or are dropped, etc.

Most teams will need to make the CFP several times to win an NC, it could be the first time.  Or not. 
Blowout is obviously a bit subjective.  I tend to think of it as more than two scores so 17+ points but I make exceptions if a late score or two moves it into or out of that range.  This year's NC was 15 points but I think it is important to note that it was a one score game and the team behind had the ball VERY late in the game.  The Pick-6 made it look a bit more lopsided but it was a competitive game.  

My subjective view of blowouts in the NC in the CFP and BCS eras:

In total that is 11 in 24 years which is almost half but that depends on what you think about the italicized ones that are borderline.  

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
I'm more literal about blow outs I think, meaning a score like 48-14 is a blowout to me, a score you'd see playing a G5 program.  But it's subjective and you offered a nice summary.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 14, 2022, 12:04:16 PM
I'm more literal about blow outs I think, meaning a score like 48-14 is a blowout to me, a score you'd see playing a G5 program.  But it's subjective and you offered a nice summary.
Honestly the definition to me is more about time than final score.  What I mean is the answer to the question of whether or not a game was a blowout should be answered by considering the following question:

The example I always use is two Ohio State games that I attended at Ohio Stadium.  

In the mid-90's (IIRC) tOSU beat Iowa by 21 points, 56-35.  That sounds reasonably close but the game was anything but.  Ohio State led 56-0 at one point and Iowa just scored five TD's against Ohio State's backups, waterboys, mascots, and cheerleaders.  My point is that the game was never in doubt even though Ohio State won by "only" three TD's.  

The other game was against Penn State around a decade later and the Buckeyes won the game by 22 points.  Now obviously 22>21 so, in theory, the PSU win was "bigger" than the Iowa win but that couldn't be further from the truth.  This particular game was a very close and hard fought game almost until the end.  Late in the game the Buckeyes had a one-score, eight-point lead at 14-6.  The difference in the game was simply goal-line offense/defense.  Each team had scored twice but the Buckeyes had punched in two TD's and held PSU to two FG's resulting in the 14-6 lead.  Late in the game Penn State had the ball and was driving but then threw a pick-6 which made it 21-6.  On their very next possession (it might have been the next play) the Nittany Lions threw ANOTHER pick-6 which led to the final score of 28-6.  

That is why I think time might be the better way to assess this.  The Iowa game was over before halftime.  The Penn State game wasn't over until the first pick-6 deep in the fourth quarter.  

Even 48-14 *MIGHT* not truly be a blowout if the winning team scored three late TD's to break open a reasonably competitive 27-14 game.  

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 12:08:39 PM
I agree entirely, a blow out is a game that became noncompetitive a bit after halftime, or before.  And it COULD be a 17 point final differential.

Trickier to enumerate that.

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2022, 01:48:56 PM
28 points or more

Osborne would start pulling starters with a 4 TD lead in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on January 14, 2022, 02:05:15 PM
28 points or more

Osborne would start pulling starters with a 4 TD lead in the 2nd half
What @Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) and I are saying is that it isn't just the final margin.  

If Nebraska is up 56-28 late in the third quarter, pulls their starters, gives up two late TD's by backups, and wins 56-42 that is still a blowout because the game was not in doubt once they got to 56-28.  Conversely, if Nebraska is in a dogfight where the third quarter ends with the Huskers holding a 35-28 lead but then they score three fourth quarter TD's to win 56-28, that game is NOT a blowout because it was in doubt into the fourth quarter.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 03:00:03 PM
I agree with both, I'd consider 28 points to be a blowout in MOST cases, but late scores that mean little impact that a lot.

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 14, 2022, 03:10:50 PM
The UM-UGA game felt like a blow out though it finished 34-11.  It was 34-3 late.  I also think there is a difference between 34-3 and 70-39, same MOV, but in the latter case the loser was putting up some numbers and COULD have recovered with a few breaks later in the game.

But yeah, I'd go with 28 point MOV barring special circumstances.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: TyphonInc on January 14, 2022, 03:13:22 PM
Blowout is obviously a bit subjective.  I tend to think of it as more than two scores so 17+ points but I make exceptions if a late score or two moves it into or out of that range.  This year's NC was 15 points but I think it is important to note that it was a one score game and the team behind had the ball VERY late in the game.  The Pick-6 made it look a bit more lopsided but it was a competitive game. 

My subjective view of blowouts in the NC in the CFP and BCS eras:


  • 2012:  Bama by 28 over ND.  This was probably the biggest blowout as ND was down 35-0 before they got on the board. 
  • 2004:  USC over OU by 36.  This might even be a worse blowout than the 2012 NCG.  Oklahoma scored the last 9 points after trailing 55-10. 


In total that is 11 in 24 years which is almost half but that depends on what you think about the italicized ones that are borderline. 

USC over OU was the worse blow out. 

ND moved the ball twice on 'bama (turn over on downs and pick on the 3.) ND stopped 'bama 3 times including one turn over, before the game was so bad I went to bed.

OU scored on the opening possession and then turned a huge turd for the rest of the 1st half. 
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 14, 2022, 05:40:39 PM
Yup, I figure usually at least 3 of the teams in the CFP are very very good, and capable of beating you half the time, the other one would need some breaks, maybe could beat you 25% of the time, so the odds are against you no matter how good you are unless you are unusually great.
Florida's been facing this for as long as FSU was good and the SECCG began in '92.  FSU-SECCG-Bowl.  Super fun stuff, good luck winning all 3.  Spurrier never did.  Meyer did once, but none of the FSU teams he faced were like the ones Spurrier faced.  Tough sledding.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 14, 2022, 05:44:00 PM

(Whispers quietly ... I think OSU could've taken LSU. It would've had to be really feeling it, but Clemson was in that game at points, despite Lawrence being pretty out of sync. Granted, it would've been a shootout for the ages)
Ehhh......OSU got up 16-0 on that Clemson team, so it had everything going for it and all the momentum and still lost AND LSU put up 630 yards on that same team with no turnovers.

I'm doubtful.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 14, 2022, 06:52:45 PM
Ehhh......OSU got up 16-0 on that Clemson team, so it had everything going for it and all the momentum and still lost AND LSU put up 630 yards on that same team with no turnovers.

I'm doubtful.
I mean...LSU was really good. But OSU was better on the fancystats for a reason - they had a great pass rush and a great back end. No team would have matched up better with LSU that season than OSU. Clemson needed like a million big breaks just to barely squeak by. Certainly, would have been a much better championship game.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: FearlessF on January 14, 2022, 08:45:27 PM
What @Cincydawg (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=870) and I are saying is that it isn't just the final margin. 

If Nebraska is up 56-28 late in the third quarter, pulls their starters, gives up two late TD's by backups, and wins 56-42 that is still a blowout because the game was not in doubt once they got to 56-28.  Conversely, if Nebraska is in a dogfight where the third quarter ends with the Huskers holding a 35-28 lead but then they score three fourth quarter TD's to win 56-28, that game is NOT a blowout because it was in doubt into the fourth quarter. 
agreed
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 15, 2022, 07:29:42 AM
There is a point in a blowout where it's obvious the loser is done, barring several miracles.  I usually change the channel at that point.  Later I might discover the loser closed the gap to something more respectable, and in very rare cases, the trailer comes all the way back.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 15, 2022, 03:47:32 PM
(1) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SECNetwork/videos/1623575661311799)

Dawg fans being intense.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 06:38:33 PM
I mean...LSU was really good. But OSU was better on the fancystats for a reason - they had a great pass rush and a great back end. No team would have matched up better with LSU that season than OSU. Clemson needed like a million big breaks just to barely squeak by. Certainly, would have been a much better championship game.
Cool.  Then beat Clemson with a 16-point head start, lol.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 06:40:10 PM
Cool.  Then beat Clemson with a 16-point head start, lol.
The lads and I got together and we are sending you to football school so you can stop having bad football takes.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 07:01:22 PM
I guess the "right" response to "OSU was a better matchup because of X, Y, and Z" would be WHO GIVES A SHIT?
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 07:02:40 PM
I guess the "right" response to "OSU was a better matchup because of X, Y, and Z" would be WHO GIVES A SHIT?
Apparently you care a lot because you seem pretty upset by it.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MrNubbz on January 15, 2022, 07:13:21 PM
(1) Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SECNetwork/videos/1623575661311799)

Dawg fans being intense. 
Somebody wearing a Chubb shirt 😎
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 08:56:01 PM
Apparently you care a lot because you seem pretty upset by it.
It's cute you think that.  
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 08:58:05 PM
It's cute you think that. 
Is it cuter than writing in all caps about how know one cares?
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 09:13:58 PM
Takes A LOT of effort to type in call caps, I TELL YOU WHAT!  And red font?  FERGIT IT!
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 09:18:37 PM
Takes A LOT of effort to type in call caps, I TELL YOU WHAT!  And red font?  FERGIT IT!
Football fans: "What if two the best teams got to play each other that one year. That would have been awesome!"

Some random dude: "WELL THEY DIDN'T. WHY WOULD ANYONE TALK ABOUT THAT? HOW COULD ANYONE CARE ABOUT THAT?"
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 09:47:53 PM
So it's not about the OSU-LSU matchup, now OSU was better than Clemson?
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 15, 2022, 09:55:29 PM
So it's not about the OSU-LSU matchup, now OSU was better than Clemson?
Yes. By the numbers, OSU was better than Clemson that season. By many stats, they were better in that game. Upsets happen - that's life in sports. It is profoundly silly to say OSU couldn't compete with LSU because they lost to Clemson. It's the dumbest take of them all.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 15, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
Yes. By the numbers, OSU was better than Clemson that season. By many stats, they were better in that game. Upsets happen - that's life in sports. It is profoundly silly to say OSU couldn't compete with LSU because they lost to Clemson. It's the dumbest take of them all.
This is a good example of if I posted what you did, you'd disagree with me.  

I don't recall saying OSU couldn't compete with LSU, but thanks for inventing that narrative.  This isn't worth my time, even my bored, nothing-better-to-do time.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 16, 2022, 08:51:50 AM
Sam nailed it. 

Fro be all like: 

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WHO CARES!!!!111!!!

Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 10:08:37 AM
We've all seen situations where Team A can beat Team B who beats Team C who is better than Team A.  Aside from the fact it happens, often, it's also the case that some teams have weaknesses others are geared to attack.  I think, for example, Ohio State THIS YEAR would have been a very tough out for UGA.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 10:28:22 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/8CsLzRr.jpg)
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 16, 2022, 10:46:25 AM
Sam nailed it.

Fro be all like:

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WHO CARES!!!!111!!!


Yep, go with what you want to believe and ignore the truth.  That's how Fox News is a thing.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: Cincydawg on January 16, 2022, 10:48:30 AM
I guess the "right" response to "OSU was a better matchup because of X, Y, and Z" would be WHO GIVES A SHIT?
If you don't care about this aspect of the discussion, just leave it alone, others may find it of interest.  I don't see a reason to drive the discussion in some OTHER direction.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MrNubbz on January 16, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
:'(
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on January 16, 2022, 11:16:15 AM
If you don't care about this aspect of the discussion, just leave it alone, others may find it of interest.  I don't see a reason to drive the discussion in some OTHER direction.
My apathy sprung up when my criticism was criticized.  Which is stupid.  It's all stupid.
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: MaximumSam on January 16, 2022, 11:39:22 AM
My apathy sprung up when my criticism was criticized.  Which is stupid.  It's all stupid.
(https://i.imgur.com/KeY6zaf.png)
Title: Re: Georgia's NC is their first in 41 years
Post by: FearlessF on January 16, 2022, 02:28:09 PM
Takes A LOT of effort to type in call caps, I TELL YOU WHAT!  And red font?  FERGIT IT!
BIG RED FONT, BABY!!!!