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Title: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 24, 2018, 01:42:25 PM
Just finished reading this and thought I would share since I thought it was entertaining.  If you watched the TV series "Friday Night Lights", then it would be more of interest.  A lot of good ribbing of A&M, which of course always delights me personally, but there's a few other jabs in there at other schools.  

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2018/1/24/16925194/tim-riggins-college-football-programs-texas-am



"So let’s start in Texas. Rice is out, because Riggins would fail out the instant he so much as looked at a classroom, even with Landry to cheat off of. SMU is too preppy, Baylor is a dry campus, UT feels too much like school. Riggins is a hick, which makes you think he’d fit in at A&M, but A&M is a school for joiners—people who are really into buying into a culture—and I think the cadets and Yell Leaders and everything that makes College Station the single weirdest place I’ve ever been would freak Riggins out. Plus, I don’t think he’s exactly dying to block for Smash Williams again. I kinda like Texas Tech culturally but they’re the Air Raid school and Riggins is the least Air Raid player I can imagine."



I do miss FNL, it was a pretty good show (especially in the early seasons) and there's not really any other football-centered shows out there right now.  

Do you have any favorite fictional football characters from movies or shows, and do you have a speculation of where they would have played if it was real life?  
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2018, 01:48:40 PM
as y'all have heard, I'm not much into fictional folks on the big screen or the boob tube

but, I thought North Dallas Forty was entertaining

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Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: longhorn320 on January 24, 2018, 03:03:00 PM
Just finished reading this and thought I would share since I thought it was entertaining.  If you watched the TV series "Friday Night Lights", then it would be more of interest.  A lot of good ribbing of A&M, which of course always delights me personally, but there's a few other jabs in there at other schools.  

https://www.theringer.com/tv/2018/1/24/16925194/tim-riggins-college-football-programs-texas-am



"So let’s start in Texas. Rice is out, because Riggins would fail out the instant he so much as looked at a classroom, even with Landry to cheat off of. SMU is too preppy, Baylor is a dry campus, UT feels too much like school. Riggins is a hick, which makes you think he’d fit in at A&M, but A&M is a school for joiners—people who are really into buying into a culture—and I think the cadets and Yell Leaders and everything that makes College Station the single weirdest place I’ve ever been would freak Riggins out. Plus, I don’t think he’s exactly dying to block for Smash Williams again. I kinda like Texas Tech culturally but they’re the Air Raid school and Riggins is the least Air Raid player I can imagine."



I do miss FNL, it was a pretty good show (especially in the early seasons) and there's not really any other football-centered shows out there right now.  

Do you have any favorite fictional football characters from movies or shows, and do you have a speculation of where they would have played if it was real life?  

My son and I watched FNL a lot
One of my favorite scenes is where Landry works up enough nerve to ask a certain girl out and she tells him she is gay
Landry looks at the girl and says "thats valuable information I could have used"
may son and I tell each other that all the time
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 24, 2018, 03:04:14 PM
I guess if I had watched Friday Night Lights it would be more interesting but wasn't Friday Night Lights based on a real team - at least originally?

I can't think of too many fictional football characters.  I guess I could play along with non-football characters.  Let me think of some of the less obscure characters...

Nick Carraway of the Great Gatsby.   A bit of a snob, raised by his father to overcome his snobbery, but still very judgmental at first and even in the end, despite attempts to accept the questionable behaviors of his cousin, her husband, and friend.   He strikes me as a strong safety (who can also punt), coming out of a traditionally affluent school - like Westlake or Highland Park.  I'd say he'd end up at Baylor.

Holden Caulfield of Catcher in the Rye.  Poor student, likes red, lacks purpose, resents snobs and phonies.  Inside, slot, possession receiver.  Heavily recruited by Kliff Kingsbury.  Tech material through and through.

Robert Jordan, aka Ingles, disenchanted, phlegmatic freak.  I see him in a Brecklyn Hager, LB/DE hybrid role for the Texas Longhorns.  Of course, he'll probably end up suspended and maybe even transfer to Tarleton State.

Dorian Gray from Oscar Wilde's the Picture of Dorian Gray.  QB for OU in the Jason White mold.   Never grows old.  When is his eligibility ever going to end?

Tom Joad from The Grapes of Wrath.  Killer, country boy, loner who accepts responsibility.  Sounds like a left tackle for Oklahoma State.

That's the best I can do with this topic.  Sorry.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: BrownCounty on January 24, 2018, 04:10:20 PM
Nigel Gruff.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 24, 2018, 05:18:52 PM
here's someone's list of the 25 best sports movies ever.

3 football movies on the list

http://siouxcityjournal.com/entertainment/movies/the-best-sports-movie-performances-ever/collection_815e5975-dbb5-5438-a384-8452198bae7b.html#13 (http://siouxcityjournal.com/entertainment/movies/the-best-sports-movie-performances-ever/collection_815e5975-dbb5-5438-a384-8452198bae7b.html#13)
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CWSooner on January 24, 2018, 09:47:46 PM
as y'all have heard, I'm not much into fictional folks on the big screen or the boob tube

but, I thought North Dallas Forty was entertaining

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I read the book (by Pete Gent) first.  It was a genuine tragedy.
I was highly disappointed in the movie.
I always wondered how accurate a portrayal of Don Meredith the "Seth Maxwell" character of the book was.
Not very accurate, I hope, as I always liked Meredith.  As did my mother-in-law, as she and her late husband knew him semi-well out in Santa Fe.
I also thought that Dan Jenkins' Semi-Tough was a real hoot.  I think Barbara Jane Bookman was the best character in that one.  At least the character I would have liked to have for a very close friend.

The movie stunk.  I hated it.  One of the multitude of reasons was that Jill Clayburgh was as suited to play Barbara Jane Bookman as John Wayne was to play Genghis Khan.

Even better than Semi-Tough, IMO, was Jenkins' Dead Solid Perfect.  Kenny Lee Puckett was a great character.  That book did a number on good ole Paschal High, Fort Worth, Texas.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 25, 2018, 09:29:44 AM
North Dallas Forty

I read the book after seeing the movie

as usual, the book was much better

one of the reasons I don't see many movies - they suck in comparison
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 25, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
We can discuss books, too.  As always, feel free to veer any direction as needed to suit your conversational fancy.  It's the off-season after all. 


I do read books, but admittedly the sports books I read are more biography-based than fictional.  I just happen to watch more TV than read these days, but I did already finish 1 book this year (not sports related, more about WW2). 
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 25, 2018, 10:31:43 AM
 As always, feel free to veer any direction as needed to suit your conversational fancy.  
with these guys?!?!?
odd that my mention of pie at the Monument Cafe didn't erupt into more than a curse on the Cafe
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 25, 2018, 10:35:26 AM
The Monument Cafe denied my dying mother a spoonful of King Ranch Chicken.

As far as I’m concerned, they can go to hell.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 25, 2018, 11:18:47 AM
Watch Matthew McConaughey and Guy Fieri Bro Down At The Monument Cafe On Last Night's Triple D

Diners, Drive-ins and Dives, food dude Guy Fieri and his good buddy and actor dude Matthew McConaughey went to The Monument Cafe in Georgetown, Texas (30 miles north of Austin). McConaughey is a native Texan, but he's never had the Texan classic King Ranch casserole (said McConaughey, "My mom was not a good cook"). The casserole is a combination enchilada/casserole, so McConaughey suggested a new name: the bro-friendly "Cashilada."

Dern, the video has been pulled

McConaughey can go to hell too!
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CWSooner on January 25, 2018, 12:35:12 PM
Bruce Benedict, Halfback.

From the juvenile-sports-fiction book of the same name, by William Campbell Gault.

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/wJMAAOxyod5SJL6j/s-l300.jpg)

Bruce Benedict plays for some Pac-8 school back in the late '50s.  Oregon State, maybe.  Single-platoon days.  At the end, he and the team have overcome many obstacles and are going to the Rose Bowl.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 25, 2018, 02:38:26 PM
I probably read that back in grade school.  For about a year, all I read were juvenile fiction books about sports, mostly football.

There were several books that I believe were all from one author, not necessarily a series but closely related.  They were more about prep high school football than college, though there might have been one or two that went into college but more Ivy style.  They had similar names to Gault's books, including titles that featured position names like halfback and quarterback.  Can't for the life of me remember the author or actual book titles though.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: BrownCounty on January 25, 2018, 02:42:42 PM
utee - I read them all too.  Matt Christopher was the author.  Touchdown for Tommy was one of them.  That's all I remember right now.

I read them circa 2nd and 3rd grade.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 25, 2018, 02:55:39 PM
Thanks 95, that sounds like the one.  I read them all around 2nd/3rd as well.  These are all of the titles listed, I definitely recall some of them:


FOOTBALL BOOKS:
#1 CRACKERJACK HALFBACK
#2 TOUCHDOWN FOR TOMMY
#3 TIGHT END
#4 TOUGH TO TACKLE
#5 FOOTBALL FUGITIVE
#6 CATCH THAT PASS!
#7 THE GREAT QUARTERBACK SWITCH
#8 FIGHTING TACKLE
#9 HALFBACK ATTACK
#10 THE TEAM THAT COULDN'T LOSE
#11 LONG-ARM QUARTERBACK
#12 FOOTBALL NIGHTMARE
#13 FOOTBALL DOUBLE THREAT
#14 COUNTERFEIT TACKLE
#15 GREAT MOMENTS IN FOOTBALL HISTORY
#16 TACKLE WITHOUT A TEAM
#17 UNDERCOVER TAILBACK
#18 QB BLITZ
#19 TAKEDOWN
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: BrownCounty on January 25, 2018, 03:05:20 PM
Well I don't know if I read them *all*, but I'm pretty sure I read about half on that football list, and several baseball books as well.  Seems like I read a couple of basketball books too.

All of the stories (that I remember) used to involve a kid playing little league, pop warner, whatever you call it.  I was a fool for books like that.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 25, 2018, 03:21:01 PM
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Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: BrownCounty on January 25, 2018, 04:32:50 PM
Yeppers, that's it.

I also played with any board games I could get my hands on involving sports.  A few I can remember:

* Talking Football (with the little records that you would put into the player)
* Monday Night Football (I think the field lit up telling you the results)
* Electric Football (went through about 5 of these as a kid, ordered various teams thru the mail)
* Electric Baseball (kinda dumb, cool to watch the runners run the bases)
* NFL Strategy (this one was more sophisticated, it was cool as I got older)
* Hockey (where you would slide the players up and down their slots)

and lots of others involving boards and cards (mostly football related)

Electric football sucked.  But it had me mesmerized.  The players looked cool.  The games looked so cool in the Sears Christmas catalog.  But in practice it was worthless!  The passer/kicker and that little felt booger?  You would have better luck flinging that piece of felt out the door, across the hall, and into the bathroom - much easier than trying to flip it 20 "yards" on that metal field.

Derailment.  I only apologize because uterin started this thread.  Otherwise I don't apologize.  We'll be talking about beans or no beans by page 3 anyway.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: longhorn320 on January 25, 2018, 05:10:15 PM
maybe its time for the Big12 to break up
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 25, 2018, 05:23:15 PM
maybe its time for the Big12 to break up
Good Lord.
The Realignment thread is over there  ---------------------->>>>>>>>>>
I can still ban people, ya know.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 25, 2018, 05:24:10 PM
I'm not much of a gamer and haven't heard of any of those, but don't care if they are up for discussion.   I used to play Jeopardy on the original Nintendo and used to rock that game, and Dr. Mario with all the little pills that was kind of like Tetris.  Those are about the only ones I played with any frequency, but nothing sports that I can remember.   Mortal Kombat was fun, at least they had some chick characters that weren't just princesses needing to be saved.   



Why break up when we can continue on with our dysfunctional and circular conversations that bring so much passion to the internet?  Sometimes the discussions about beans or no beans are the reason I come here anymore.   God knows it isn't to brag about my team, lol.  ;)
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: BrownCounty on January 25, 2018, 05:34:20 PM
All I know is I felt really bad for some of you folks over here the other night.

My kitchen gave birth to the most awesome batch of black bean chili that has ever darkened the doors of my pie hole.  Got the seasonings just right, some homecut fries on the side, and washed it with Shiner.

What a shame to miss out on such ecstasy...

I mean, Marisa Tomei could say "it's either me or the chili" and I would have to take pause.

And then I would choose Marisa but dammit I'm telling you that was some divine chili.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 25, 2018, 05:40:52 PM
Apparently Tom Cruise did a football movie before he went all crazy.  I wonder if it's any good.  Says one of the Producers was Lucille Ball.  
It was a bit before my movie-viewing time, I wonder if it was a flop or if it would be one of those funny 80's movies that is still entertaining today: 

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XhV_5dwylmo/movieposter.jpg)

Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 25, 2018, 06:12:52 PM
Apparently Tom Cruise did a football movie before he went all crazy.  I wonder if it's any good.  
HBO and Cinemax played that movie 47 times a month in 1984.  I'm sure every young man my age remembers Lea Thompson and the incredible impression she made in that movie.  By the time she starred as Michael J. Fox's mom in "Back to the Future" the next year, she was already right up there with Fast Time's Jennifer Jason Leigh and Phoebe Cates as the talented young actresses that moved a generation.  I remember I videotaped "All the Right Moves" and watched the cold night part a few times.
Craig T Nelson may have been the coach.  I'm not sure.  All I really remember is Lea Thompson.  A fine actress.  She stole the show.
And I just remembered another wonderful (alas, non-football movie) I watched beaucoup times on '80s HBO and Cinemax.   The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer (of Blade Runner fame) and either Lea Thompson or Jennifer Jason Leigh (I can't remember which).   The role wasn't quite as revealing but it was quite compelling.
Now I'm thinking of 1980s HBO and Cinemax.   Cost $45/month which seemed outrageous but was worth every penny.
Lisa Bonet in Angel Heart
Kim Bassinger in just about anything
Rachel Ward
ah... the 80s.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 25, 2018, 06:20:32 PM
All the Right Moves is an 80s teen exploitation classic for sure.  Not up at the top of the mountain like Risky Business, but yeah, Leah Thompson.  Wowza.

Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: FearlessF on January 25, 2018, 07:36:55 PM
 Hayden Fox - Craig T Nelson
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 26, 2018, 08:59:15 AM
Now I feel like I really missed out and need to watch this.   It was Nelson as Coach from what I saw in the  movie info.  I'll have to pay attention and see if it ever pops up on my streaming or cable options some day. 

My earliest memory of Leah Thompson was from Howard the Duck, which was apparently about the age I started paying attention to movies and remember watching that one many times.   
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:18:26 AM
All the Right Moves is an 80s teen exploitation classic for sure.  Not up at the top of the mountain like Risky Business, but yeah, Leah Thompson.  Wowza.
Rebecca De Mornay.   Many people loved her as an actress.  I respect that but I was never enraptured with any attraction to her.  She had that Sandra Locke beady eyed sharp nosed rodent look.   Like I said, some folks like that.  Good for them.  Not my cup of tea.
I did think, however, that she gave a great performance in the early '90s Disney version of the Three Musketeers that starred Kiefer Sutherland, Charlie Sheen, Oliver Platt and Tim Curry.  As far as beauty goes, the movie also had Gabrielle Anwar who burned up the screen in every movie she appeared in back then, but I thought Rebecca De Mornay gave the best performance in that otherwise silly movie.  Even better than the always wonderful Tim Curry.  
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: UT-Erin03 on January 26, 2018, 09:25:30 AM
De Morney was awesome in The Hand that Rocks The Cradle.    Perfect role for a beady sharp nosed rodent looking actress. 
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
Craig T Nelson was the high school football coach in All The Right Moves six years before he became Coach of the Minnesota State Screaming Eagles.

I dug Rebecca De Mornay AND Lea Thompson.  Another favorite was Elizabeth Shue, I dated a girl who looked a lot like her in fact.

Not sure any of them held my attention as much as Olivia d'Abo, though.  The first time I saw her was in Conan 2, man she was cute.  She didn't do a lot of stuff, though.  She was the older sister in The Wonder Years for its first few seasons, she played a burgeoning hippie chick that was growing up too fast and there were some really amazing bittersweet moments between her and her youngest brother, Kevin.  She was also in one of my favorite mid-90s movies, Kicking and Screaming.

Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:27:57 AM
About a hundred years ago, in the late '70s when I was a teen, Robby Benson starred in movie about a shooting guard recruited to play for a fictional college powerhouse like UCLA, Kansas or North Carolina.

It had Melanie Griffith in a 90 second cameo as a hitchhiker.

The dude who played his coach was perfect for the role.  Scrawny little finger pointer with an overbite and high Okie twang.

Probably the best villain coach ever.  Better than Nelson in all the right moves.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 09:31:19 AM
Varsity Blues wasn't a great movie, but John Voight did a good job as a villainous head coach.

And, of course, there was the whipped cream bikini girl...
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:35:04 AM
Craig T Nelson was the high school football coach in All The Right Moves six years before he became Coach of the Minnesota State Screaming Eagles.

I dug Rebecca De Mornay AND Lea Thompson.  Another favorite was Elizabeth Shue, I dated a girl who looked a lot like her in fact.

Not sure any of them held my attention as much as Olivia d'Abo, though.  The first time I saw her was in Conan 2, man she was cute.  She didn't do a lot of stuff, though.  She was the older sister in The Wonder Years for its first few seasons, she played a burgeoning hippie chick that was growing up too fast and there were some really amazing bittersweet moments between her and her youngest brother, Kevin.  She was also in one of my favorite mid-90s movies, Kicking and Screaming.
Good taste, Junior.  I remember Elizabeth Shue and Olivia D'Abo.  
Back when Bo Derek was considered a sex symbol, she starred in a movie called Bolero.  Olivia D'Abo played her protegee, Paloma.  It was another one of those movies Cinemax played 80 zillion times and only "After Dark" so you'd imagine it would be somewhat scandalous, but it wasn't.
Did you ever watch Law and Order Criminal Intent when Olivia D'Abo became Vincent Donofrio's recurring nemesis.  It was reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes begrudging admiration for Irene Adler.
Elizabeth Shue was cute as a button when she was young in the Karate Kid and Adventures in Babysitting but she aged well too.   I thoroughly enjoyed her role on CSI just a few years ago.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 09:37:09 AM
Oh, and that basketball movie was called One on One.  I don't think I ever saw it, but I remember my dad's radio station doing promotions for it.  Not sure if it had any particular connection to Austin or not, but at one point they hosted a big party downtown (maybe a premier?) and at least a couple of the actors were there.  I wasn't allowed to attend, I just remember my folks making a big to-do about it all.

Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:39:21 AM
Oh yeah, Varsity Blues.

It just reminded me of another movie, probably best forgotten.  "Johnny Be Good."  It had a young Uma Thurman, a coked up, manic Robert Downy Jr and an awkwardly grown up Anthony Michael Hall bearing no resemblance to the cute kid who had starred in Family Vacation and Sixteen Candles.

What it did have was a wonderful satire of recruiting corruption written by someone who knew enough about it to make wonderfully absurd parodies of UT and USC.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 09:42:47 AM
Good taste, Junior.  I remember Elizabeth Shue and Olivia D'Abo.  
Back when Bo Derek was considered a sex symbol, she starred in a movie called Bolero.  Olivia D'Abo played her protegee, Paloma.  It was another one of those movies Cinemax played 80 zillion times and only "After Dark" so you'd imagine it would be somewhat scandalous, but it wasn't.
Did you ever watch Law and Order Criminal Intent when Olivia D'Abo became Vincent Donofrio's recurring nemesis.  It was reminiscent of Sherlock Holmes begrudging admiration for Irene Adler.
Elizabeth Shue was cute as a button when she was young in the Karate Kid and Adventures in Babysitting but she aged well too.   I thoroughly enjoyed her role on CSI just a few years ago.
I don't really watch much television,  so I haven't seem them in those roles.  Good to hear that they've aged well.


Speaking of The Wonder Years, little Winnie Cooper did quite well for herself as well.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:47:32 AM
Oh, and that basketball movie was called One on One.  I don't think I ever saw it, but I remember my dad's radio station doing promotions for it.  Not sure if it had any particular connection to Austin or not, but at one point they hosted a big party downtown (maybe a premier?) and at least a couple of the actors were there.  I wasn't allowed to attend, I just remember my folks making a big to-do about it all.


Thank you for remembering the title.  IMDB says it was filmed at Colorado State University.
It's funny how Austin used to host premieres from time to time for movies that weren't even filmed in Austin.   In addition to "One on One," when the 1960s hit TV series "Batman" made a full length movie, it premiered in Austin.   It was all the rage.  Austin went totally Batman crazy.  Grocery stores and gas stations held promotions and radio stations had contests.
The only movies I actually remember being filmed in Austin in the '70s and '80s was a tepid movie called "Outlaw Blues" that featured Peter Fonda as a country singer and an amazing boat chase on Town Lake near the dam, and "Nadine" with Jeff Bridges and Kim Bassinger.  All I remember about that one is that it was about recovering nude pics of Bassinger that were never actually shown.
Oh, I think there was one more - "DOA" with Dennis Quaid.
And "Roadie" with Meat Loaf.  I was at the bar they filmed it at.  Nickel beer night.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 09:48:22 AM
Oh yeah, Varsity Blues.

It just reminded me of another movie, probably best forgotten.  "Johnny Be Good."  It had a young Uma Thurman, a coked up, manic Robert Downy Jr and an awkwardly grown up Anthony Michael Hall bearing no resemblance to the cute kid who had starred in Family Vacation and Sixteen Candles.

What it did have was a wonderful satire of recruiting corruption written by someone who knew enough about it to make wonderfully absurd parodies of UT and USC.
Yeah, Anthony Michael Hall looked totally weird in that.  But then he looked even weirder as a 'roided up jock in Edward Scissorhands.   
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:49:21 AM
Speaking of The Wonder Years, little Winnie Cooper did quite well for herself as well.
Even when they were little kids it was perfectly obvious that young Kevin had outkicked his coverage.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 09:50:17 AM
Yeah, Anthony Michael Hall looked totally weird in that.  But then he looked even weirder as a 'roided up jock in Edward Scissorhands.  
Having the epoch of your career when you're 14 must be worse than being Vanilla Ice.
Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 10:02:04 AM
Let's see, there were a few others shot in/around Austin in the 70s and 80s. 

I specifically recall Heartbreak Hotel because I was an extra in it, a high school auditorium scene where Elvis performs with a student.  I was in the audience.  That was late 80s, 1988 I think.

A personal favorite of mine, Fandango, starring a young Kevin Costner and Judd Nelson, was shot from Austin to West Texas.  Any Longhorn fan that hasn't seen this one, should.

A couple others I can recall were Honesysuckle Rose, and the Best Little Whorehouse in Texas. 

And then I believe the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, from the 70s, was filmed here.


Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: utee94 on January 26, 2018, 10:05:49 AM
Ah, here's a convenient list of movies filed in/around Austin, compiled by decade.  Some nice Friday nostlagia for ya.

https://www.austintexas.org/film-commission/made-in-austin/

Title: Re: OT- fictional football characters
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 11:08:21 AM
Indeed, it is entertaining on so many levels for so many different reasons.  Thank you, Junior.

So many were good.  So many were bad.  So many were typical.  So many were unexpected.

I always think of "Slacker" as the first truly quintessential Austin film, "Office Space" as the first Austin film to transcend its Austin roots and "Machete Kills" as the perfect Austin film.

Strange how the art of the story of Ned Leadbetter's life looks like a '70s blacksploitation film.

My brother was in Piranha.  "What's Eating Gilbert Grape," changed my life because Johnny Depp stole my girlfriend.

Several years ago, I saw a really weird black and white early 1960s film on Youtube about a University of Texas student who encounters a beautiful naked ghost from a pond while he's researching German ancestry in the Texas Hill Country near Fredericksburg and Johnson City.  Such a strange film.  I'm surprised it wasn't listed on your website.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 26, 2018, 11:11:15 AM
Also really surprised to see No No: A Dockumentary on the list.  I saw that on netflix several months ago and was utterly amazed by the story.  I had never heard it before.

Since it's a documentary consisting of old footage and interviews and I had no idea it had any Austin connection at all.  Apparently it was assembled in Round Rock.  Who knew?
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Post by: CWSooner on January 26, 2018, 08:27:38 PM
Wow!  This thread has turned out to be "movies with Austin connections!"  Who'd'a thunk it?

In response to the OP, about fictional football players, I liked Captain (Dr.) Oliver Wendell "Spearchucker" Jones of MASH, the book and the movie.
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Post by: utee94 on January 28, 2018, 09:32:20 AM
Yeah, well, turns out nobody has any interest at all in movies filmed in Oklahoma.  Who'd a thunk it? 

In response to the OP, about fictional football characters, and also in response to the earlier mentions of Peter Gent novels, I always liked The Franchise and its main character, quarterback Taylor Rusk.  Like Gent's other works, The Franchise explored some of the seedy underbelly of both college and pro sports, with a colorful cast of characters.

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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 28, 2018, 09:19:53 PM
So I looked up movies filmed in OKC.  There was this series from 2007-2010 starring Holly Hunter called ‘Saving Grace.’  It was filmed in LA but set in OKC.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 28, 2018, 09:24:29 PM
There was a 1993 episode of the X-Files called Conduit. It was filmed in British Columbia but set in Fearless’s home, Sioux City, Iowa.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 28, 2018, 09:27:56 PM
There is actually a kind of sordid sounding 2004 movie filmed in Dallas and Kerrville, called, “Brownwood.”
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 28, 2018, 09:36:24 PM
A good many were, of course, set and/or filmed in Erin’s hometown of H-Town.

Among them are the famous Urban Cowboy, a movie I never saw but says it stars Dolph Lundgren as a Houston cop and one I really liked called Rush with Jason Patric & Jennifer Jason Leigh as strung out undercover narco cops.
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Post by: CWSooner on January 28, 2018, 09:45:58 PM
Yeah, well, turns out nobody has any interest at all in movies filmed in Oklahoma.  Who'd a thunk it?
Heh!  Not completely true, but not my point at all, as I'm sure you understand.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 28, 2018, 10:25:25 PM
There was a 1993 episode of the X-Files called Conduit. It was filmed in British Columbia but set in Fearless’s home, Sioux City, Iowa.
spooky
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 29, 2018, 10:21:14 AM
Yeah, well, turns out nobody has any interest at all in movies filmed in Oklahoma.  Who'd a thunk it?
There's some lady that has a reality/cooking show filmed in Oklahoma.  My wife loves it.  Good job Okies.  You've gone Hollywood.
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 10:38:02 AM
There is actually a kind of sordid sounding 2004 movie filmed in Dallas and Kerrville, called, “Brownwood.”
Can't really trust anything associated with Brownwood.  Underwood's BBQ is among the very worst I've ever had.  Makes Bill Miller and Dickey's look good by comparison...
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 11:06:10 AM
Dickey's has got to be really good BBQ

made it as far north as Omaha - notice the snow in the pic

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Post by: BrownCounty on January 29, 2018, 11:11:56 AM
Can't really trust anything associated with Brownwood.  Underwood's BBQ is among the very worst
Bait taken.

Underwood's is macro BBQ served in a cafeteria setting.  Lemon's or Smitty's is the real thing.
Only use I have for Underwood's is to pick up a bucket of chicken.  Highly recommended for that purpose.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 11:14:06 AM
fried chicken or BBQ'd?
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 29, 2018, 11:18:58 AM
fried chicken or BBQ'd?
Fried.  Avoid any BBQ at Underwood's unless held at gunpoint.  In that case, order brisket and smother it with sauce.
There's not enough sauce in Texas to help any of the other meats.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 11:27:59 AM
Dickey's has got to be really good BBQ

made it as far north as Omaha - notice the snow in the pic

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Oh bless your heart.  No.
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 11:42:52 AM
Yeah yeah, we've all had the Underwood's discussion before. :)

To be fair, I've never actually been to the Underwood's in Brownwood, only the ones in Austin mentioned by Slick in his erroneously posted message to the other thread.  They were both pretty bad, but I can't really count that against the original Underwood's in Brownwood. ;)

But I'll take T95's word for it that even that one doesn't make good BBQ, but does make good fried chicken.  The same has always been true of the Bill Miller chain of restaurants.  Truly horrible BBQ, but very good fried chicken.

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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 11:49:19 AM
Bill Millers makes passable breakfast tacos and really good french fries if you eat french fries.  I try not to.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 11:53:58 AM
Now I have a hankering for barbecue.

First Sunday of the month is coming up.  Maybe I'll take fam to Smokey Mo's after church.

I always like to buy the ninos and their gfs lunch on the first Sunday of the month.   It gives them an incentive to go to church, get their heart right, take communion.

Can't hurt.
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 29, 2018, 12:01:14 PM

You saint, you.

Lusting after the nino's gf's while all along just trying to get them in church.

A fair compromise of uncontrollable earthly instinct vs. trying to get your act together.
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 12:13:39 PM
Like all things in life, balance and moderation are key.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 12:19:22 PM
Now I have a hankering for barbecue.

First Sunday of the month is coming up.  Maybe I'll take fam to Smokey Mo's after church.

I always like to buy the ninos and their gfs lunch on the first Sunday of the month.   It gives them an incentive to go to church, get their heart right, take communion.

Can't hurt.
do the GFs wear dresses to church?
can't hurt
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 12:28:58 PM
Nah.  It's a very casual church.

This time of the year the ninos gfs wear snug jeans they have wriggle up by the belt loops every 3 minutes.

But shorts season is coming up fast.  It'll start about march and last through October.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 12:32:34 PM
I don't remember previous generations of girls wriggling up their jeans by the belt loops as much as this generation of girls do. Maybe it's the cell phone in the back pocket working against them.

It's a cute little shimmy though.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 12:34:50 PM
gentlemen shouldn't wear hats or caps inside Bonedaddy's but it's ok to wear jeans to church?
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 12:35:42 PM
hah, previous generation wore hip hugger jeans

no shimmy required
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 29, 2018, 12:50:29 PM
hah, previous generation wore hip hugger jeans
Yep.  Jordache and white tennis shoes.
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 12:50:59 PM
Now I want some BBQ, too.  I'm tied up at lunch today, but maybe tomorrow.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 05:03:08 PM
I'm going to settle for an Iowa pork chop in an hour or so.

grilled
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 05:12:00 PM
Very nice.  I actually grilled some pork chops last night, and my i s c & a aggie wife made a lovely salad to go with it.
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Post by: Mr Tulip on January 29, 2018, 05:15:21 PM
HBO and Cinemax played that movie 47 times a month in 1984.  I'm sure every young man my age remembers Lea Thompson and the incredible impression she made in that movie.  By the time she starred as Michael J. Fox's mom in "Back to the Future" the next year, she was already right up there with Fast Time's Jennifer Jason Leigh and Phoebe Cates as the talented young actresses that moved a generation.  I remember I videotaped "All the Right Moves" and watched the cold night part a few times.
Craig T Nelson may have been the coach.  I'm not sure.  All I really remember is Lea Thompson.  A fine actress.  She stole the show.
And I just remembered another wonderful (alas, non-football movie) I watched beaucoup times on '80s HBO and Cinemax.   The Hitcher with Rutger Hauer (of Blade Runner fame) and either Lea Thompson or Jennifer Jason Leigh (I can't remember which).   The role wasn't quite as revealing but it was quite compelling.
Now I'm thinking of 1980s HBO and Cinemax.   Cost $45/month which seemed outrageous but was worth every penny.
Lisa Bonet in Angel Heart
Kim Bassinger in just about anything
Rachel Ward
ah... the 80s.
Yeah. My early technical projects were attempts to "improve" the reception of the myriad cable channels my parents refused to pay for (i.e.: all of them past the minimum tier). I was not doing it to see the sports.
I remember playing "Football" on the Atari 2600 (just called the "Atari" at the time). The field was a top-to-bottom series of alternating light and dark green lines. There were 3 players to a team, and they were all apparently eligible. By scale, each player would also be roughly 14 feet tall, but that's the least problem. You'd "secretly" call your play of run right, run left, pass or punt, then run it against whatever the defense called. You had limited control of the players, but could "steer" the ball like nobody's business. A good player could curve a pass around a couple defenders.
A good way to kill the evening until it was time to see if the new RF mods could tune in Cinemax when "Softly from Paris" came on.
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Post by: Mr Tulip on January 29, 2018, 05:19:24 PM
gentlemen shouldn't wear hats or caps inside Bonedaddy's but it's ok to wear jeans to church?
I play drums in church. I wear jeans and a black t-shirt typically. Makes up for all the being quiet I had to do as a youth.
Turns out, old school Vision Streetwear hightops are the most comfortable drumming shoe I've found! Good support with a wiggly sole. It's also flat so I can swap out jingles or shaker accessories when playing djembe or congas.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 06:42:38 PM
hightops rock

mine were older school

Keds
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Post by: utee94 on January 29, 2018, 07:41:40 PM
I wore Converse All Star (Chuck Taylor) high tops back in the day.  Actually, I still do.

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Post by: CWSooner on January 29, 2018, 08:18:56 PM
Jack Purcell Blue Tips.

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I think that the soles were light tan back then, though.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 08:57:05 PM
My afluent yankee gf at the time bought me a pair of blue Nike track shoes in 1982 when I was 20.  By the time I was 30 I was wearing solid black Adidas high tops.

But before I was 20 I never wore brand name shoes.  I just wore whatever was on sale at Gulf Mart or Woolco or Sage.  We didn’t have Targets or Walmarts then.  And I grew up poor.  Momma wasn’t gonna buy me gym shoes at Dillards or Beall’s.

Most of the time, growing up, I wore these rough suede shoes with crepe soles called Chucka Boots.

My affluent yankee gf also introduced me to Hush Puppies.

She was a brand conscious little girl.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 08:59:51 PM
Very nice.  I actually grilled some pork chops last night, and my i s c & a aggie wife made a lovely salad to go with it.

Small world.  I grilled those center cut pork steaks HEB dry rubs.  Good stuff.  Cheap, tender, tasty.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 09:02:08 PM
Chukka boot

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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 09:03:38 PM
I just remembered another long forgotten 70s wardrobe phrase.

I used to complement my chukka boots with a CPO jacket.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 29, 2018, 09:09:10 PM
YCPO jacket

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Course the staples of my wardrobe 1976 - 1980 were 28 x 34 Levi Big Bellbottom jeans and black pocket T shirts.

They were the earmarks of the “cool” kids and when I say cool, I don’t mean hip, trendy or in style.  In the ‘70s when somebody asked you if you were cool, it meant you wouldn’t’ object or freak out if they passed you a J.
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Post by: CWSooner on January 29, 2018, 11:18:01 PM
CPO jackets.  Hadn't thought of those in a while.

They went very well with chukka boots.

I have a pair of chukka boots now.  I wear 'em with my non-name brand blue jeans on weekends.

Billy Clyde Puckett might have worn chukka boots.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 29, 2018, 11:30:47 PM
Small world.  I grilled those center cut pork steaks HEB dry rubs.  Good stuff.  Cheap, tender, tasty.
I buy the center cut pork loins for under $2/lb.  Have the butcher chop them about 1 1/2" thick.  Some I marinate, some dry rub, 
pan fried or grilled, very tender.  not much for bbq sauce.  use salsa or hot sauce or mostly just season salt and black pepper
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Post by: utee94 on January 30, 2018, 09:01:56 AM
I like BBQ sauce as a mop for grilling chicken.

Or for dipping your white wonder bread into whilst eating BBQ.

That's about it.

I'm doing the other half of the pork chops today, in the slow cooker, with some apples, onions, and carrots.
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Post by: FearlessF on January 30, 2018, 12:23:11 PM
that will be very good

I usually reserve the crock pot for the pork roast.  Sometimes I have the butcher leave a nice crock pot sized chunk of the loin when cutting chops.

some of the spicy BBQ sauces are OK, I'm not big into the sweet sugary sauces.  Chipotle is good. 
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 30, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
I see myself as a Steve Buscemi type and I've always pictured CW as the dignified, scholarly type like James Avery the man who played Will's uncle on Fresh Prince- three piece suit and exasperated air and all.

So to learn we're both brothers in chukka boots and CPO jackets makes me reassess everything.
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 30, 2018, 05:52:16 PM
Course the staples of my wardrobe 1976 - 1980 were 28 x 34 Levi Big Bellbottom jeans and black pocket T shirts.
I just thought they were thick flannels.  My wardrobe 1978-1982:

* Flannel shirt untucked, unbuttoned, sleeves rolled up
* Black concert t-shirt  (Aero, Kiss, Nugent, Rush, etc)
* Levi's jeans (28 x 32 likely - I'm 34 x 34 now)
* Red wing work boots
* Sometimes a belt with a stupid rock group belt buckle (boy was that ghey)
* Hair combed in wings and hanging everywhere

Kids were labeled freaks or socials (or dorks) where I went.

How I turned out right is anybody's guess.  I went through the rock band thing before college.  Then grew up.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 30, 2018, 07:42:07 PM
What kind of car did you drive, BC?   I’m trying figure out if we would’ve been buds are sworn enemies.

Actually... i was pretty simple minded back in the day.   I liked everybody except the current gf’s exes.   There seemed to be an obligation to hate them.   Not sure why.
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Post by: CharleyHorse46 on January 30, 2018, 07:52:11 PM
And too soon mullet guy.  I hated too soon mullet guy.

I wore my hair to my shoulders until the summer of 1980 when I decided to follow Glenn Frey’s lead on the Long Run album and cut it short and go preppy.  And thus I was until around the time of Steve Perry’s Oh Sherry video  (1984) when I decided to grow a mullet which I wore until about 1990 or1991 when I decided to go with a long banged grown out bowl cut I could shake into place with a toss of the head.

Yeah I was that guy and I hated pre-Oh Sherry mullet guy with a fashion.

What I loved however were the green haired mohawk Drag kids of the early 80s.   They just wanted to be different but ironically there were so freak8ng many of them.
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Post by: utee94 on January 31, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
Steve Perry was wearing a mullet before Oh Sherry.  He was pretty much all long-hair for Escape, but for just about every video off Frontiers, he was sporting that classic Perry-mullet.

So what makes his first solo hit the distinguishing break in time for you?
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 31, 2018, 08:50:05 AM
What kind of car did you drive, BC?   I’m trying figure out if we would’ve been buds are sworn enemies.
I drove my mom's Pontiac Catalina for almost a year.  (Got a "hardship" license at 15)  Saved a little dough and bought a '79 Z28.  My dad co-signed for me.  Black on black, gold striping.  Put Cragar mags on it and those stupid aluminum louvers on the back window.  Installed Pioneer sound system.

If I wasn't driving that car, I would sometimes just sit in the yard and stare at it.
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 31, 2018, 08:52:50 AM
And too soon mullet guy.  I hated too soon mullet guy.
I may have been too soon mullet guy.  I wore my hair long but I also enjoyed the punk rocker look on top.

If you think about it, that's really kinda what a mullet came to be.  The punk rock look combined with the hard rocker look.
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Post by: BrownCounty on January 31, 2018, 08:55:52 AM
Steve Perry was wearing a mullet before Oh Sherry.  He was pretty much all long-hair for Escape, but for just about every video off Frontiers, he was sporting that classic Perry-mullet.
Infinity thru Frontiers was a good run for Journey.
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Post by: utee94 on January 31, 2018, 09:06:03 AM
Indeed it was.  Raised on Radio and the Visionquest Soundtrack had some good Journey tunes, too.  But for complete whole albums, that Infinity-Frontiers run is hard to top.