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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: CWSooner on December 23, 2021, 01:14:30 AM
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In the first one I really cared about Army gave up an early TD to Missouri, then fell behind 10-0, before fighting its way back to take the lead 21-16 with about 6 minutes left in the game.
Army then recovered a Mizzou fumble near midfield with 3:45 left, but then went 3 and out, with a mediocre punt setting the Tigers up at their own 20 or so with 3:15 left. With no TOs remaining, Mizzou scored a go-ahead TD with 1:11, but failed on the 2-point conversion, leaving the score 22-21.
Army then came back to FG range, rather mismanaged the clock--they could have run at least one more play than they did--but still kicked the GWFG on the game's last play.
Army 24, Missouri 22.
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watched the entire game at the bar
my bother had Mizzou, I had Army
I'm now up 5-1, but it's early
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I always pull for the service academies, was glad to see Army pull out the W at the end.
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watched the entire game at the bar
my bother had Mizzou, I had Army
I'm now up 5-1, but it's early
How does the loser pay off? Money? Beers?
Groveling and scraping while acknowledging the winner to be the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge?
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loser has to buy lunch the next time we get together
I think I've bought lunch the last 5 or 6 seasons - usually at Bonedaddy's
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That's a reasonable wager.
Who did you have in the Tulsa-ODU game?
The UCF-Florida game this evening might be worth watching.
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we both picked Tulsa, so no damage
I have Miami of Ohio and Florida - I'd be happy with a split
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Tulsa-ODU showed the bad and the good of bowl season.
The game was played in a stadium smaller than some large HS stadiums, before a very small crowd. So the game environment was very uninspiring.
But it was a good football game.
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Texas A&M cancelled their bowl game and it looks like there may be others cancelled as well
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Tha ags didn't cancel their bowl game, they declined to participate. The bowl game will go on, with Rutgers as the replacement opponent, to face Wake Forest.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32930171/rutgers-accepts-invite-replacement-team-gator-bowl-play-wake-forest-sources-say
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Tha ags didn't cancel their bowl game, they declined to participate. The bowl game will go on, with Rutgers as the replacement opponent, to face Wake Forest.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32930171/rutgers-accepts-invite-replacement-team-gator-bowl-play-wake-forest-sources-say
I wonder if this is a first
I dont remember a replacement team playing a bowl game once the original 2 teams were announced
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I don't recall it ever happening before, but bowl games have been around since long before I was born, so I'm no expert.
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we both picked Tulsa, so no damage
I have Miami of Ohio and Florida - I'd be happy with a split
Your Miami (O) pick is looking good.
And that's despite it being practically a home game for UNT.
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I don't recall it ever happening before, but bowl games have been around since long before I was born, so I'm no expert.
I don't know of it ever happening either.
I know of the Rose Bowl being moved to North Carolina during WWII. I think it was the 1942 game, and I think that it was played in Duke's stadium. Wallace Wade Stadium, maybe?
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Your Miami (O) pick is looking good.
And that's despite it being practically a home game for UNT.
the 4th and goal stop was big
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UCF handled Florida, so you got a split.
I would have gotten a split the other way. I thought UNT and UCF would win.
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I had Memphis today, brother had the Warriors
a cancelled game isn't bad when you're up 6-2
I have Nevada and Boston College tomorrow
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Player opt outs and covid cases have hit us hard.
It doesn’t hurt that we have no starting QB and no DC as well.
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Players sitting out of bowl games is becoming a plague.
It is very disappointing to see it. Undercuts the whole notion of "team."
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very disappointing indeed
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how can a player sit out a bowl game but have the balls to be on the side line during the game
If I was the coach I wouldnt allow it
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player is done playing games
he's off the team - doesn't need the weight room or the training table
no more food
if you're done, you're done
let your agent take care of you
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Players sitting out of bowl games is becoming a plague.
It is very disappointing to see it. Undercuts the whole notion of "team."
Well the amateurism was taken out of the sport a long time ago. It just players longer to catch up to the coaches and ADs. I don’t blame them one bit, and in fact it simply illustrates what a farce the majority of bowl games have become.
I don’t like it, but this is the new way.
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Well the amateurism was taken out of the sport a long time ago. It just players longer to catch up to the coaches and ADs. I don’t blame them one bit, and in fact it simply illustrates what a farce the majority of bowl games have become.
I don’t like it, but this is the new way.
I dont like it either and again if they opt out no later statues no retirement of number and no standing on sidelines
if want to act like its strictly money then thats how they should be treated
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Hawaii opted out of theirs too.
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Hawaii opted out of theirs too.
I was just going to post that.
I'm pretty sure that Memphis was already out there, since the game was supposed to take place today. A very expensive vacation for the Memphis football team, as it turns out.
In a perfect world, the forfeiting team would cover the costs that the opponent has incurred.
But that would set up perverse incentives. Like playing guys who are known to be infected.
I think that more games will be cancelled. A&M and Hawaii are just the leading edge of the Omicron-variant avalanche.
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A Duck board is saying that over 30 Ducks will be missing for one reason or another.
A late cancellation by Oregon may be in the offing.
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'Tis the season, I suppose.
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Looks like Texas could play WSU in the Sun Bowl if they want to. Kinda hard to prep for a game at this late hour.
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Looks like Texas could play WSU in the Sun Bowl if they want to. Kinda hard to prep for a game at this late hour.
not sure we want to ruin our five win season with a loss
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Houston starts well with a great opening drive for 7, I'm pulling for the Tigers since I have that wager with my brother, who has the Cougs
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Well, Fearless, your brother won that one. Houston pretty much controlled that game.
Taco Tech made Mike Leach's Bulldogs look pathetic. A one-trick-pony coach like Mike Leach can only take you so far.
WVU was pretty punchless against Minnie-Soda last night.
Former OU QB Dean Blevins, who has spent his post-college days as a sports media person, says that Oregon is sandbagging, that the "31 Ducks won't play" is misleading at best.
I guess we'll see tonight.
Before that, we'll see disgruntled-and-bleeding-players-to-the-portal Iowa State against Clemson, which has lost about half its coaching staff, including both coordinators.
The SEC is 0-4 in bowl games at this point.
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yes sir, after taking a commanding lead, my brother has won 3 in a row to pull within 1 at 6-5.
He has the Sooners tonight, I have the Ducks
I'm rooting for the home state Clones, but think Clemson might get them.
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Boomer!
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I thought that ISU was going to pull a game-tying rally at the end, but the bizarre fumble by Purdy after converting on 4th down ended that hope.
Tonight was an incredibly happy capper to a strange month for Sooner fans. It was an important win. Drake Stoops caught a TD with his dad on the sideline. Kennedy Brooks--a great guy in addition to being a great player, with three years of 1,000-yards rushing--was offensive MVP. Patrick Fields--who has completed his bachelor's and master's degrees in four years--was the defensive MVP. Caleb Williams had a great game and is, I think, going to stay in Norman.
Bob Stoops has burnished his near-legendary status. He left at the perfect time after the 2016 season, and he came back to be a stabilizing rock after Muleshoe's departure. The players have been extremely positive about playing for him. It has been said by some Sooner fans that Barry Switzer is the King, and Bob is the Prince. Some local sports-media guy wrote in the last couple of days that, for younger Sooner fans who don't remember the Switzer years, Bob will be the King. I think that's right. And maybe not just for younger fans.
Bob's career winning % had been .7983. Had the officials in the Oregon game of 2006 gotten it right on any 1 of 3 critical calls at the end of the game, Bob's record would be .8025. With tonight's win, it's .7992. Close enough to call it 80%.
I think Brent Venables will do very well as the HFC. The Sooners will be tougher than they were under Riley, and that will be needed in the SEC. I certainly can't foretell the future, but I think that the OU program will be fine going ahead from here.
OU has had four 100-win coaches--Bennie Owen, Bud Wilkinson, Barry Switzer, and Bob Stoops. The Four Bs. All of them in the CFB HOF. Maybe Brent Venables will be the fifth one. Sooners can hope.
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Shane Beamer's USC-E Gamecocks are up on Mack Brown's UNC Tarheels 18-0 as the 1st quarter is winding down in the Duke's Mayo (formerly Queen City, Meineke Car Care, Continental Tire, and Belk) Bowl.
Josh Heupel's Tennessee Vols take on Purdue in the Music City Bowl at 2:00.
Then we get into the NY6 bowls with Pitt playing Michigan State in the Peach Bowl at 6:00.
Wrapping it up for New Year's Eve Eve, Wisconsin and Arizona State--each 8-4--play in the Las Vegas Bowl at 9:30.
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Looks like Wazzu (who got stood up by Miami) is playing Central Michigan (who got left at the Arizona Bowl altar by Boise State) in the Sun Bowl tomorrow.
Might be an interesting game, with neither team having much time to prepare for the other.
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Mack Brown's defense SUCKED
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Unsatisfying season for UNC. Bad start and bad finish. The Tarheels had a chance to challenge for the ACC, with Clemson being down.
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Oklahoma Sooners veteran running back Kennedy Brooks has declared for the 2022 NFL Draft, he announced on social media Thursday. Brooks' announcement comes one day after he rushed for 142 yards and three touchdowns in the team's Alamo Bowl victory against Oregon.
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Oklahoma Sooners veteran running back Kennedy Brooks has declared for the 2022 NFL Draft, he announced on social media Thursday. Brooks' announcement comes one day after he rushed for 142 yards and three touchdowns in the team's Alamo Bowl victory against Oregon.
He's been on campus 4 years and played 3, in each of which he rushed for over 1,000 yards, averaging 7 yards/carry over the course of those seasons. He played in the bowl game when some of his teammates opted out. He's a guy who has been a loyal player who does and says the right things.
I hate losing him, but he needs to move on. He's not going to get better with another year of playing college ball. Running backs have short careers. He needs to go to the NFL and see what he can do there.
Good luck to him.
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good luck to him
didn't need him to have good luck in Lincoln next September
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Mack Brown's defense SUCKED
I saw some highlights. Or lowlights. Soft butter vs. hot knife at times.
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Upthread I mentioned Patrick Fields, the defensive MVP for the Alamo Bowl.
‘Forever a Sooner’: Safety Pat Fields heading to Stanford on a full academic Scholarship
John Williams
Thu, December 30, 2021, 10:38 PM·1 min read
Wrapping up a senior season that saw him win first-team academic All-American honors, safety Pat Fields announced via his Twitter account that he’ll be heading west to study management science and engineering at Stanford University. He’s received a full academic scholarship to attend the esteemed university in California.
Fields, who started “Town Business,” a financial literacy seminar with the mission of instructing student-athletes on money management, budgeting, credit, and personal branding. In collaboration with the OU National Black Alumni Association, he created the Black Wall Street Foundation to provide scholarships for underrepresented and lower-income students from Tulsa.
For the 2021 season, Fields was elected one of the captains to represent the Oklahoma Sooners along with Jeremiah Hall, Caleb Kelly, Isaiah Thomas (who was added later), and Spencer Rattler.
For the Oklahoma Sooners this season, Fields set career highs in tackles, tackles for loss, and interceptions. His leadership and consistency provided the stability that the Oklahoma secondary needed as it dealt with injuries and inexperience at cornerback.
In the Oklahoma Sooners 47-32 win over the Oregon Ducks in the Alamo Bowl, Pat Fields was named the defensive MVP after leading the Sooners with six solo tackles and added a tackle for loss.
As I may have posted earlier, he's not a hugely gifted athlete. He's a smart guy who plays smart and hard. He was not playing for a shot at the NFL. He was playing for a college education so that he can accomplish his goals in life. He's already earned his masters degree at OU and will I guess earn another one at Stanford.
He's from Tulsa. Went to school in the independent "Union" school district, which has one of the powerhouse 6A (highest level) football programs in the state. It's the archrival to where my stepkids went to school, Jenks, an even more powerful powerhouse football factory.
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I think Mack just wanted to avoid the mayo bath. YUCK!
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I think Mack just wanted to avoid the mayo bath. YUCK!
"Yuck!" is right.
However, mayo washes off. The W and the L are there forever.
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WTH happened to Michigan? Did the team that beat Ohio State trade uniforms with some high school team?
What have we had--maybe 2 good semifinal games since the CFP began?
But, hey, let's expand to a 12-team playoff! That'll fix everything!
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Well, Fearless, your brother won that one. Houston pretty much controlled that game.
Taco Tech made Mike Leach's Bulldogs look pathetic. A one-trick-pony coach like Mike Leach can only take you so far.
WVU was pretty punchless against Minnie-Soda last night.
Former OU QB Dean Blevins, who has spent his post-college days as a sports media person, says that Oregon is sandbagging, that the "31 Ducks won't play" is misleading at best.
I guess we'll see tonight.
Before that, we'll see disgruntled-and-bleeding-players-to-the-portal Iowa State against Clemson, which has lost about half its coaching staff, including both coordinators.
The SEC is 0-4 in bowl games at this point.
3-5 today.
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I must congratulate Oklahoma State for a great comeback victory over Notre Dame yesterday. One of my stepsons is an oSu grad, and when I texted him my congratulations, he texted back with a picture of him and a couple of buddies at the game.
Little Big Matt would be in Poke Heaven today.
Maybe he is anyway.
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I must congratulate Oklahoma State for a great comeback victory over Notre Dame yesterday. One of my stepsons is an oSu grad, and when I texted him my congratulations, he texted back with a picture of him and a couple of buddies at the game.
Little Big Matt would be in Poke Heaven today.
Maybe he is anyway.
that was a great game as was the Baylor game
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Baylor's defense just dominated that game. Once the offense got going in the 4th quarter, Ole Miss was just unable to respond.
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Baylor blasting Ole Miss and Tech blasting Miss State was a bad look for the SECSECSEC, that's for sure.
Add to that OU whipping the team many believed was the best in the PAC and Oklahoma State beating the vaunted domers in dramatic fashion, and it was a pretty good year for the B12 in bowls. Best win% of all major conferences.
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and thankfully, we have a Big 12 vs SEC game tonight!!!
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There's more bowl games? I had no idea.
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LSU plays KSU at some point.
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8pm central
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Didn't catch the game but I believe LSU was using a converted WR as their QB or something like that? What a wild end to the season.
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LSU obviously didn't care about the game.
SEC teams that lose to OOC opponents--whether in the regular season or in bowl games--never cared about the game in the first place. SEC teams that care always go undefeated.
Forgot to mention that the Big 12 went 5-2.
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LSU obviously didn't care about the game.
SEC teams that lose to OOC opponents--whether in the regular season or in bowl games--never cared about the game in the first place. SEC teams that care always go undefeated.
Forgot to mention that the Big 12 went 5-2.
You're bagging on your own conference you know?
LSU should be commended for playing the game with only 39 scholarship players. It was a recipe for disaster for them, but they did it anyways.
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You're bagging on your own conference you know?
LSU should be commended for playing the game with only 39 scholarship players. It was a recipe for disaster for them, but they did it anyways.
I really feel sorry for em
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You're bagging on your own conference you know?
LSU should be commended for playing the game with only 39 scholarship players. It was a recipe for disaster for them, but they did it anyways.
1. We're not there yet.
2. I hope we don't adopt the habit of excusing every OOC loss with "we didn't care" or similar weak bleach. "Our players didn't care about the game, or they went into the portal, or they got sick, or they opted out of the bowl game, or are leaving early for the NFL" is weak. Even if/when those excuses are true, they are weak.
OTOH, I have to praise Oklahoma State. They had 3 guys in the portal who stayed around and played in the Fiesta Bowl. That says something good about the culture of the oSu program.
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You're bagging on your own conference you know?
1. We're not there yet.
Ha! C-Dubb has been bagging on his own conference for over a decade, why should the SEC get any different treatment than the B12? ;)
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