Dec. 30th in Atlanta. Pitt -5. Should be a lot of points.How in the world is Pitt favored? This is a team that lost to WESTERN MICHIGAN. They will not stop Michigan State from scoring one time.
Intrigued is what I am about this.Ditto.
The ELA Bowl?He's the grand marshall of the Peach Bowl parade
KENNETH WALKER III opting out?Surprisingly no. Neither is Pickett
KENNETH WALKER III opting out?Where'd read that?
Where'd read that?Tucker said today he talked to the team, and nobody is opting out, but that "obviously things are always subject to change"
didn't read anything, just thought it was possibleI assumed he wouldn't play. I wouldn't blame him a bit. But Thorne also said they had a players meeting, and they were all in
He's the grand marshall of the Peach Bowl paradeIt's been given to the Presidents of the United States of America in perpetuity.
Pitt's OC resigned, weirdAnd now Kenny Pickett said on the Dan Patrick Show that he's undecided about playing in the game
https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/Pitt/2021/12/07/pitt-panthers-football-mark-whipple-kenny-pickett-pat-narduzzi-peach-bowl-michigan-state/stories/202112070110
And now Kenny Pickett said on the Dan Patrick Show that he's undecided about playing in the gameHas the man seen MSU's pass defense?
And now Kenny Pickett said on the Dan Patrick Show that he's undecided about playing in the gamegotta protect that draft stock. is an absolutely horrible QB year. Pickett and Corral will both get drafted way ahead of where they should be.
Pickett official- not playingI see a number of MSU fans happy about this. I'd rather he play. Not because of some thing about beating them at their best, if this was an NCAA tournament game or something, I'd be totally fine with it. But it's a bowl game. Who really cares if you win, and I think you learn more going into next year playing against the best
depending on how well he tests at the combine, could see him going 1st rd. RB position is so devalued though, he’ll probably wind up in the 2nd.The first draft guy I saw respond to this, said he didn't think there was a first round running back this year, but if there was, it was him
I wouldn’t mind the Lions taking him with their 2nd 1st round pick, but then again I kinda like KWIII and wouldn’t wish that on anyone.
The first draft guy I saw respond to this, said he didn't think there was a first round running back this year, but if there was, it was himHe might actually go 1st round, but it'll be late 1st. Seems like that's the only spot RB's are taken anymore if they are taken 1st round at all. Going top 5 like Zeke Elliot, Saquan Barkley, and Leonard Fournette is super rare these days.
It's sort of a luxury pick, in the sense that if you have no offensive line, and no passing game, a good running back is useless. So taking one at the top of the draft is stupid, even if you still do value the position. Sticking a running back on a crappy team isn't going to help anything. I think DeAndre Swift is pretty good, but he's going to be in his fourth year before the Lions are anything but terrible, so it's going to be a waste, because he can't do anything on this team.all true. which is why jacksonville taking Etienne 25 made no sense to me. They should've tried to trade up 4 picks and take DE Kwity Paye with the 21st pick. getting a rb on a crap team there made no sense.
Bottom 1st, or on a good team that winds up with an early 2nd round pick via trade make the most sense.
I could see the Bills taking him. They've seen him play in the elements.
He might actually go 1st round, but it'll be late 1st. Seems like that's the only spot RB's are taken anymore if they are taken 1st round at all. Going top 5 like Zeke Elliot, Saquan Barkley, and Leonard Fournette is super rare these days.
I definitely think he'll be the 1st RB off the board and he's easily worth a late 1st. I could see him going to the Ravens at 25 if he's there. They love to run the ball.
THIS,where did the season go? I think Time takes a slumber then drags it's feet from the end of January to the beginning of September.Definitely a time warp ask any CFB Fan
I like CFB so much I will likely watch it anyway- especially knowing in just a few weeks many of us will go through CFB withdrawals. Hate it when the season ends.
Wow, gonna be a REALLY fun game to watch, now.I'm not sure what action they can take. Pay the players to participate? The whole business model for the bowl games is rooted in not paying the players.
At what point are the bowls going to start taking action on this? There's a fuck-all reason to watch MSU vs Pitt now.
When it affects the bowl games' checkbooks, they're going to start taking some sort of action, right?
I'm not sure what action they can take. Pay the players to participate? The whole business model for the bowl games is rooted in not paying the players.Yeah, I'm not sure there's anything they can do. But lawyers can get pretty creative, lol.
expand the playoff. that is the only solution.Well maybe. They could also do other things, what if you rewarded teams that win their bowl game, like say, three extra scholarship spots? A major problem with bowl games is that there are literally no stakes. I think 99% of guys would prefer to play their bowl games - the financial risks are what keep them out, and there are no other positive stakes to make playing worth it. So create some.
expand the playoff. that is the only solution.Ya so the rest of the sunday bound guys will sit
I'm not sure what action they can take. Pay the players to participate? The whole business model for the bowl games is rooted in not paying the players.pay the conference less for less attractive content
nothing you can really do about itWell they can start by not expanding the play offs and extending the season.That many seem beholden to,maybe one game play in to the final 4 even that may be a stretch
all true. which is why jacksonville taking Etienne 25 made no sense to me. They should've tried to trade up 4 picks and take DE Kwity Paye with the 21st pick. getting a rb on a crap team there made no sense.You're hilarious.
they could've had the two most important positions on the team solved- QB and DE. I'd say LT and CB are the next most important. give me QB and DE first.
expand the playoff. that is the only solution.So you've thought of every single other possible solution and deemed them ineffective?
So you've thought of every single other possible solution and deemed them ineffective?
Let's just do a 64-team playoff!Vandy is one.
Which 2 schools from P5 conferences get the boot?
gotta protect that draft stock. is an absolutely horrible QB year. Pickett and Corral will both get drafted way ahead of where they should be.But after he got through with MSU he would probably go to the top of the draft.
THIS,where did the season go? I think Time takes a slumber then drags it's feet from the end of January to the beginning of September.Definitely a time warp ask any CFB FanMy Brother's birthday is 8-31. I have told him many times he will never grow old because it takes two years to get to his birthday.
Wow, gonna be a REALLY fun game to watch, now.Tell me about it. I have Peach Bowl season tickets. They were going to be difficult to sell. Probably won't be able to give them away now.
At what point are the bowls going to start taking action on this? There's a fuck-all reason to watch MSU vs Pitt now.
When it affects the bowl games' checkbooks, they're going to start taking some sort of action, right?
| PEACH BOWL |
| #10 Michigan State Spartans (10-2) vs. #12 Pittsburgh Panthers (11-2) |
| Thursday @ 7:00 - Atlanta, GA - ESPN |
| I think rather inarguably no bowl suffered more from opt outs more than the Peach Bowl has. Pitt and Michigan State do not bring as much in terms of shiny helmets as other New Years Six bowls have, but what it did have was a Heisman finalist quarterback taking on the best running back in the country. Instead we see neither of those things, and really, a Pitt offense which was the best in the ACC is really stripped down to the bones. Receiver Taysir Mack joined Kenny Pickett in opting out, and offensive coordinator Mark Whipple left to take the same position at Nebraska. Pat Narduzzi hasn't figured out a replacement, so it will be tight ends coach Tim Salem calling the plays, with a permanent hire to be made later. It will be Nick Patti under center, who appeared in 8 games, throwing 14 passes this year. But with USC transfer Kedon Slovis on the way, it's not like this is the 2022 starter getting a full game of reps. Pitt's offense was so talented this year, that even with all of those missing pieces, they still boast the Biletnikoff Award winner in Jordan Addison at receiver, and a pair of talent tight ends in Lucas Krull and Gavin Bartholomew, who combined for 64 receptions, 760 yards, and 10 touchdowns. And they still get to face a Michigan State secondary with many issues. Defensive coordinator Scottie Hazelton covered the issues as best he could for a while with a bend, but don't break strategy, that led the Spartans to an 8-0 start, capped with a win against Michigan, thanks to holding the Wolverines to 4 red zone field goals. Leaks began to spring over the final month, as a thin unit became even thinner after a couple of injuries to both starting cornerbacks. The Michigan State offense is more than Kenneth Walker II as well though. After Jalen Nailor was lost for the regular season in the Michigan game, too much fell on Jayden Reed in the passing game, but it appears Nailor's hand injury is healed, and the explosive Spartan passing game we saw through the first two months should be too. If you are looking for a breakout star on that side of the ball, it's Purdue transfer tight end Maliq Carr, who missed the first half of the season with an injury, but flashed the athleticism that gave Purdue's staff optimism he could play receiver. He had a full month of bowl prep, and it appears that starting tight end Tyler Hunt will miss the game with an injury. Hunt has filled in admirably for the past two seasons, after the tight end room was ravaged by injuries. But, he is a converted walk on punter. Carr can be a difference maker, and now the Spartans have no other options. Like too many of these breakdowns, it comes down to who isn't there, rather than who is. Walker is special, but getting Nailor back makes the Spartans passing game more healthy than its been since the first half against Michigan. Addison is also special, but even the best receivers are dependent on their surrounding pieces, and without his Heisman finalist quarterback, or Mack to draw coverage (even though he was injured late in the year), or their coordinator to call plays, I think that gives the Spartan defense enough of an opening to hold on. |
| MICHIGAN STATE 27, PITTSBURGH 24 |
honestly can't believe Tucker turned that program around into an 11 win season and beat Michigan twice in a row. From where that program was when he took over to where they are now is freaking night and day. Hell of a coaching job and turnaround.As usual, your definition of night and day is a tad strong.
I rarely say this, but Go Spartans. I'm being a nice guy this holiday season and rooting for the B1G to have good showings in the bowl games.(https://i.imgur.com/EcbhxpQ.png)
As usual, your definition of night and day is a tad strong.I don't know. They were 7-6 Dantonio's last year, lost a lot of players to transfers, roster was in shambles, and program was mirred in lot of scandal/controversy. After the way they looked in Tucker's 1st year when they went 2-5 to where they are now- it was an incredible turnaround.
The program was in a bad spot mood-wise, but the floor was still somehow quite solid.
I don't know. They were 7-6 Dantonio's last year, lost a lot of players to transfers, roster was in shambles, and program was mirred in lot of scandal/controversy. After the way they looked in Tucker's 1st year when they went 2-5 to where they are now- it was an incredible turnaround.I think 2-5 was the result of a new staff coming it immediately before a pandemic. They went to bowls in Dantonios.final three seasons. They probably would have won between 5-7 games in perpetuity. The problem was he found 2* and low 3* gems early, and it gave him too much leeway late. He wasn't finding those guys. He was basically just poaching high end MAC players, rather than go through another 2016 recruiting cycle. And a top end MAC team is about what we were.