It will be Stoops. Book it. He’s young enough. Still got the fire. Still got something to prove. I’m betting he’s the one that told the admin he wanted back which set the whole thing in motion.I don't think so.
I'm hoping and praying that this causes some OL (either recruits or players) to fall Texas' way. With 2 weeks before early signing day, this really sets the table for Texas to plug a ridiculous need.From your mouth to Sark's ears.
There's a lot of smoke about Brent Venables returning to Norman. Of course, there was a lot of smoke about Lincoln Riley going to Baton Rouge, and we know how that turned out.Of all the rumors I've heard, I like the HC Venables with Jeff Lebby as OC one the best. Might as well dream big. Still need OL & strength coaches.
If Brent is the guy, I would feel like it was a home run hire.
He would need to get a great OC, though.
Mark Stoops to OU, bringing back Brother Mike as DCB-o-o-o-o-o-o-o!
Of all the rumors I've heard, I like the HC Venables with Jeff Lebby as OC one the best. Might as well dream big. Still need OL & strength coaches.I'm not on board with Lebby, despite him being an OU grad.
He has had several HFC offers including Auburn earlier this year. I was beginning to suspect he just preferred being a DC and it didn't hurt that he was the highest paid assistant in CFB.I'd like to see Joe (?) Brady (LSU 2019) as the OC, but I don't think it's going to be him.
I'm very optimistic for him but there are a lot of coaching slots to fill, starting with OC that are critical.
It's not the leaving as much as it is the way he left, as well as the lies he continues to tell about his leaving.
Oh I get it, completely. After watching Nebraska and A&M ditch the B12, and lying and bullshitting whilst running Texas through the mud the entire time, despite both schools aligning 100% and voting lock-step with Texas on every single major financial decision made in the history of the conference...I'm missing the connection to Lincoln Riley's departure.
Yeah I get it. You better believe I do.
Hilarious.not sure what your point is
Let’s get it straight that A&M was not the first school that left the Big 12 and Texas was trying to get us to go with them to the PAC-12. A&M and the SEC was always going to happen. Had political forces not intervened in the 90’s it would have happened then.
Texas always had the option of the SEC or Big 10. They wanted the PAC. It would not surprise me in the least if Texas canceled their SEC deal and swapped to the B1G.
It would not surprise me in the least if Texas canceled their SEC deal and swapped to the B1G.It would shock the hell out of me. Texas stands to have all three of its traditional rivals back on the schedule regularly. Why would the Horns go elsewhere?
It would shock the hell out of me. Texas stands to have all three of its traditional rivals back on the schedule regularly. Why would the Horns go elsewhere?I would also be shocked, but I'm just a little bit hopeful
This sounds like wishful aggie thinking.
just a few Backporchers can have the same affect on the Big Ten boardI am respectful and stay off the B1G threads about who's the 8th-best interior d-lineman from 1982 and such.
they're not even complaining about it too much anymore
not sure what your point isMud slinging went both ways. Lots of mud was slung back at A&M. Many people, not just aggies, believe that cow was behind the demise of the original Big 12.
nobody said aggie was the first to leave the Big 12
the previous post was the crap that was said after leaving
It would shock the hell out of me. Texas stands to have all three of its traditional rivals back on the schedule regularly. Why would the Horns go elsewhere?Maybe just fanciful thinking on my part. I think both teams would be better served being in different conferences.
This sounds like wishful aggie thinking.
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I am interested in how Riley fares out west, especially now that he's headed to the B1G (if he lasts that long). I keep seeing various ten tops that include USC this year, and am dubious. Maybe so, probably not. I THINK there is a talent separation between the top three and the next group that is substantial, not to say upsets won't happen.
OSU-Bama would be a heckuva game I think, two gunslingers slinging.
CWS is down on Riley and I get why, it's not sour grapes I think. More good riddance. But most first year coaches need that year to adjust the program how they need it. They can do pretty well the next year.
There are folks on both sides that claim that the other isn't a rival. I have no idea who those people are trying to fool.Nope were not rivals at all
Gonna be some fun games in the future!
Nope were not rivals at allThis obvious non-rivalry might deserve its own thread.
Just because each of us has the other schools name in their fight song means nothing
This obvious non-rivalry might deserve its own thread.aggie will have to do that himself
Heck I'm married to an Aggie. She's awesome.I bet she likes Blue Bell
I bet she likes Blue BellShe's the one that started buying the HEB brand stuff in the first place.
She's the one that started buying the HEB brand stuff in the first place.I knew an aggie had to be at the bottom of all this
Definitely looking for some payback.Yes it would be grand
I’d like to think A&M as a university and as an athletic dept have grown and learned since our last meeting. I’m not blind to the fact that being in the SEC will have strengthened Texas and remaining in the Big 12 has weakened them.
Looking forward to some payback. Wouldn’t it be grand if both A&M could become perennial contenders in the SEC instead of Alabama and Georgia.
Looking forward to some payback. Wouldn’t it be grand if both A&M could become perennial contenders in the SEC instead of Alabama and Georgia.keep dreaming
When we formed the Big 12 and had North and South divisions, the big promise was that no one would play both Nebraska and Colorado in the same season because, well, it'd be unfair to face both national contenders.Yup. And Texas and OU were down, and A&M was the best team in the South, heading into that first B12 season.
Things change.
Saban can't coach foreverNope, and it's a recruiting line for competing programs now, not as yet very effective. I'm sure Smart's ten year contract has recruiting in mind.
keep dreamingWell, a fellas got to have hope if nothing else. There was a time when it would make me laugh if you told me that Baylor was the top Big 12 team. Them and oSu. Now? It just makes me cringe !
Florida LSU Bama UGA Tenn Texas OUTenn, ND big stretch - out of the blue
Clemson FSU Miami
Ohio State Michigan USCUCLA?PSUIowa?NDOregonUtah? UDubb?
Tenn, ND big stretch - out of the blueI wouldn't scratch Oregon. The FDucks made it to the championship game after the 2014 season.
2014 was almost a decade agoYes, it is, and no, they haven't.
they haven't been recruiting at that level
I wouldnt include Texas until they do something to earn itIt takes a bold and clear-eyed man to say that about his own program, a top-10 all-time blueblood, 320.
I look at established traditional programs able to recruit at a high level as programs with a >5% shot. Maybe it's >2%, dunno, I'd say under 2% is Vandy.well we at Texas are spending just as fast as we can to make that happen
I'd consider Auburn for example. There are enough programs on the fringe of this to comprise a "field" that could win it.
I wouldnt include Texas until they do something to earn itNor would I, I just did it for grins. I'd need to see a pretty massive step-function improvement in player development and gameday coaching, before I'd ever even begin to believe that the Horns might have a shot.
well we at Texas are spending just as fast as we can to make that happenNational Analysts Rip Jimbo Fisher, Aggies Recruiting
National Analysts Rip Jimbo Fisher, Aggies Recruiting
The Aggies struggles on the recruiting trails are not a surprise, per national pundits
The Texas A&M Aggies have struggled on the recruiting trail in the 2023 cycle, sitting with six total commitments, including a punter.
And while the talent they do have committed is solid, the momentum is nowhere near the same for Jimbo Fisher as it was in the 2022 class, when the Aggies finished with arguably the greatest recruiting class of all time.
In fact, after finishing with the nation's unanimous No. 1 class, the Aggies currently sit with the No. 35 class per On3, the No. 52 class by Rivals, and sit at No. 58 class per 247Sports.
They are unranked by ESPN.
And now national analysts are beginning to take notice, with Fox Sports' Brady Quinn, ripping the Aggies for their haul thus far.
"It’s a direct correlation to the microscope has been put on us," Quinn said on an episode of the Outkick The Coverage podcast." We can’t do what we did last year and our recruits look a little different right now. I haven’t seen that dramatic of a swing in recruiting ever. When Nick Saban comes out and basically says, ‘Yeah, dude, you bought that class.’ This justifies it."
However, Quinn wasn't the only analyst to rip the Aggies, with former Penn State star linebacker LaVar Arrington giving Alabama's Nick Saban the credit for the Aggies struggles.
generally, but we're talkin bout the Big12 hereA 12-1 conference champ Texas or OU is pretty much a CFP lock.
I implore you to read the TexAgs recruiting forum. They'll tell you exactly how (a) there's no reason to worry because Jimbo is an elite recruiter and has a ton of guys on standby to close strong (b) the Pool Party (tm) is coming at the end of July and errbody will commit then and there and (c) Texas is a bunch of cheating cheatersons who, according to this guy I work with who's "pretty high up in the NCAA", are being investigated and will be given the Death Penalty quickly.A) Click-bait
Seriously, the whole thing's a conspiracy! They can prove it!
there ya go - BaylorIn 2014, both Baylor and TCU were left out as 11-1 Big 12 co-champs (back when the Big 12's slogan was "One True Champion").
And it's nice to have a high ranking WRT recruiting than a low one, but it doesn't guarantee success. Especially with the portal in full effect, and maybe more so when they eliminate the one transfer limit.Yeah. I try not to get overly invested on where 16-17 year old kids decide to play a sport. I know Texas is a pratfall away from seeing them all head someplace else. I think, right now, the players and coaches are painting a picture of a player-led program with a healthy culture.
I think a lot of recruits want to see how the season shakes out before they are fully commmited anyways, and lots will change now between now and December.
Arch Manning has long been regarded as the consensus No. 1 prospect for the class of 2023. A 5-star QB, son of Cooper Manning and nephew of NFL greats Peyton and Eli, Arch recently committed to Texas at the end of June.yep I saw this coming
However, another prospect – and one that could be seen in the B1G in a few seasons – has overtaken Manning in one publication. ESPN recently dropped Manning to No. 2 on its list of prospects behind QB Malachi Nelson out of Los Alamitos, California. Nelson is committed to USC who is set to begin play in the B1G during the fall of 2024.
I figured Saban and Bama signed a QB, but it was ol muleshoeyep its gonna you guys problem in the years to come
Wait, is Muleshoe your name for Riley?Are you just catching that?
Why is that, again?
Yeah I thought you were talking about some recruit or something. It didn't make much sense to me but I don't follow Lincoln Riley and his exploits very closely.No, because he hasn't turned out to be a turd.
So is your current coach, then, referred to as Salina?
Speaking of first year coaches, which one has the most interesting season for you? Riley? Kelly? Napier? Notre Dame?Brian Kelly at LSU. That is the oddest fit I can remember. A Massachusetts Yankee cosplaying a Cajun.
I probably missed a few.
He's been committed to Riley for over a year now, I think. That would be a really big flip, if it happens.Makes one wonder why hes doing this
As I understand it, Venables doesn't want a commitment until the kid is through making visits. He wants the kid to be sure. And if you're sure, you don't keep taking visits.
That philosophy is a change from the Muleshoe days.
Malachi Nelson is a loss to OU, wherever he ends up. But it would be interesting, especially considering that he and Arch are #1 and #2 (in some order), if he ended up at A&M.
Yup it would make for some fun showdowns in a few years.I agree.
I'm not so sure Malachi is a 0% chance to flip. Nobody goes to College Station just for fun. This is a business trip.
Awesome.You smug bastage. ;)
I probably stated this somewhere but I really don’t follow recruiting that much. A&M has consistently signed top ten and 20 classes the entire 5ime I’ve been a fan and sometimes they pan out and sometimes they don’t. Obviously id rather sign top classes than unranked but I don’t dwell on it too much.where
Besides, the fishing has been on fire and we’re catching double limits of redfish with trout and flounder thrown in. Life is good 😁
whereIn the water!
In the water!raised in Galveston
are you a fisherman ?
We’ve been fishing shallow lakes off the ICW around Freeport. By shallow I mean about a foot of depth in places, some times less. There are places I have to run on plane to get into and if I stop in the wrong place I’m sitting firmly on bottom. My boat will float about 6-8” of draft and run in spit lol.Ive caught a lot of big fish in knee deep water so I can identify with you
Which first year coach will be the first fired?So, we've got:
no gets fired with only 1 year unless some other factor besides the W/L record is involved0-12 might do it, but probably not.
0-12 might do it, but probably not.gotta win at least 6 and go to a bowl or he's gone
Speaking of hot seats, surely Scott Frost must show significant progress this year if he wants to coach the Huskers in 2023.
gotta win at least 6 and go to a bowl or he's goneJust as I thought that Charlie Strong would tear it up at Texas, I thought that Scott Frost would be a big-time success at Nebraska. When he was hired, what was there not to like?
This new coach thing seems to be a crap shoot to me. You can easily do a Tennessee.Yep.
I thought Frost would be an 8-9 win per season coach similar to Pelini when hired8-9-win seasons are well below the standards set by the Huskers of the '90s and early '00s.
perhaps better
I think that could still pan out, but a 6 or 7 win season needs to happen now or he won't get the chance
Riley left a bigger mess than Billy C., but ya gotta be able to clean up a mess in 4 seasons
8-9-win seasons are well below the standards set by the Huskers of the '90s and early '00s.9 win seasons was Osborne's low bar for his career
But they would stop the bleeding and provide a reason to hope for better.
Nebraska seems to have never been the same since taking 2 bad losses to end the 2001 season.
You've said it before, and I agree . . . firing Frank Solich was a mistake.
If the Husker PTBs had had that quick a trigger in the '60s and '70s, Devaney and Osborne wouldn't have lasted long enough to win their NCs.