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Title: Wisconsin (2-2, 4-3) at #25 Purdue (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 21, 2021, 07:24:56 AM
Kickoff is at 3 PM EDT and can be found on BTN.  Wisconsin is favored by 3 points.

Wisconsin QB Mertz looked OK last week against Army going 8-15 for 112 yards with no interceptions.  Wisconsin did most of the damage on the ground with 198 yards rushing. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 08:42:27 AM
Purdue looked awesome last week at Kinnick. The crowd at Ross will be juiced.

I don't see how Wisconsin is favored here. In fact, I'm not sure they will even score.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 21, 2021, 08:45:45 AM
In fact, I'm not sure they will even score.
So there's "No Way" ?



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Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 04:31:15 PM
Thinking about this game...

Karlaftis has to be licking his chops watching film on Beach trying to block in the passing game. He was a revolving door against Hutchinson, and Karlaftis might be even better.

I think this is going to be really fugly. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 21, 2021, 04:33:18 PM
Wisconsin hasn't had to throw a forward pass to beat the Boilers in a decade and a half [plus], so I'm not sure pass protection will make a difference. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on October 21, 2021, 04:40:21 PM
Similar to Purdue having Iowa's number, Wisconsin seems to have Purdue's number over the last 2 decades.  I'm certainly jealous of how easily the Badgers seem to take out the Boilers.  If ever Purdue is gonna get one, this is the year, but hard to go against history.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 04:58:04 PM
Wisconsin hasn't had to throw a forward pass to beat the Boilers in a decade and a half [plus], so I'm not sure pass protection will make a difference.
Run game is middling this year. Might not be an issue. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 21, 2021, 05:05:29 PM
Run game is middling this year. Might not be an issue.
There have been a few years that the Wisconsin run game hasn't looked as great as usual, and playing Purdue has been the medicine to cure what ails 'em... Wisconsin vs Purdue has been a "get right" game for their run game. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 21, 2021, 05:22:45 PM
I'm just gonna say it. 

UW's OL sucks.

This is NOT all on Mertz. Play calling is also not up to par.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 05:32:05 PM
There have been a few years that the Wisconsin run game hasn't looked as great as usual, and playing Purdue has been the medicine to cure what ails 'em... Wisconsin vs Purdue has been a "get right" game for their run game.
So, I should be working, but this led me to looking up old stats.

The three worst running UW teams in my era (2020, 2015, 2008) only one faced Purdue. Boilers crushed the run game, but gave up more than 320 passing yards to Stave. The next-worst one, which was still pretty good, got a bonkers productive performance from the third-string back, but the starter was decent, not great.

I think what usually happens is sputtering badgers offenses, because of the pass, run into Purdue. Purdue has no ability to force them to pass, and the run game, which is already pretty good, just goes ham

Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: bayareabadger on October 21, 2021, 05:32:38 PM
I'm just gonna say it.

UW's OL sucks.

This is NOT all on Mertz. Play calling is also not up to par.
I think OL and Mertz both suck, and play-calling is not making it easier
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on October 21, 2021, 10:45:58 PM
We've got 2 top 10 teams as dogs to unranked teams,  this isn't surprising to see Wisconsin as a favorite. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 21, 2021, 10:48:53 PM
We've got 2 top 10 teams as dogs to unranked teams,  this isn't surprising to see Wisconsin as a favorite.
Top Ten ranked teams are dogs?
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2021, 08:17:35 AM
I think OL and Mertz both suck, and play-calling is not making it easier
I'm not giving up on Mertz - yet.

Did you see UW lost a talented WR this week to the portal?

He said there is talent in the WR room going to waste because of play calling.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2021, 09:49:09 AM
what really bothers WRs is when they are running open and the QB doesn't see them
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 22, 2021, 09:51:31 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 22, 2021, 10:29:30 AM
I think the Badgers beat Purdue tomorrow, and their remaining opponents, yes, Iowa, and win the West.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
even Nebraska?

Huskers gotta be the most "due" team in America to pull and upset
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 22, 2021, 10:37:30 AM
Ya I think the Badgers can beat the Huskers.  Wisconsin's defense is excellent.  If they work the kinks out of their OL they're there. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2021, 10:38:12 AM
UNL will likely be favored.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 22, 2021, 10:56:47 AM
Nebraska can't even close out Illinois or Minnesota, and we are talking about them beating Wisconsin? 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 22, 2021, 11:05:26 AM
I do not see good things when I watch UW on offense.

It's getting so bad that the defense is now wearing down later in the games. 

We've seen this against ND and UM.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 22, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
Nebraska can't even close out Illinois or Minnesota, and we are talking about them beating Wisconsin?
better to be lucky than good
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on October 22, 2021, 12:08:28 PM
Top Ten ranked teams are dogs?
OkieState +7 @ Iowa State
Oregon +1 @ UCLA

Dogs I say!
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 22, 2021, 03:12:21 PM

Wisconsin Badgers (1-2, 3-3) at #25 Purdue Boilermakers (2-1, 4-2)
3:00 - West Lafayette, IN - BTN
I can't think of a worse follow up game for Purdue.  They just come off a road upset of the #2 team in the nation (which apparently is their thing), ending their own 14 year ranking drought, which was the longest in the Power 5, and have to turn around and play a struggling Wisconsin team.  You win?  Fine, you should have.  Depending on what upsets occur out there, you may even fall out of the polls with a win.  You lose?  Ah, same old Purdue, pull a big upset, and then regress.  The last thing any Purdue fan feels towards Wisconsin is "should win."  The Kyle Orton fumble game in 2004 has kicked off a 14 game winning streak in the series for Bucky, and only one game since then, a 17-9 game in 2017 was by one score.  Nine of the games have been by 21+ points.  The last time Purdue beat Wisconsin at home, was in 1997, Joe Tiller's first year, with true freshman Drew Brees serving as a backup to Billy Dicken.  Much like those Joe Tiller teams, the explosive playmakers on offense get the press, but the defense is very underrated.  Purdue has held all three Big Ten opponents to under 300 yards of total offense, ranking second in the conference with 280 ypg allowed.  The one better?  Wisconsin.  By about 30 yards per game.  As you might expect, being 2nd in total defense leads to Purdue being 2nd in scoring defense.  Wisconsin being 1st, by a wide margin, has resulted in them being...fifth in scoring defense.  Simply because they are on the field all the time, they take over in terrible position, and hell, some of those points they didn't even actually allow.  The one Big Ten team to score on them was Michigan.  They added a garbage touchdown late, but in getting out to a 31-10 lead, Michigan's six scoring drives covered an average of 31.5 yards.  The longest started at their own 41.  It's not even just a matter of turnovers.  The offense simply isn't efficient.  George Karlaftis has put himself firmly into the discussion as the best lineman in the conference, that it appeared Aidan Hutchinson was running away with.  Wisconsin has to stay on schedule, and give Graham Mertz the chance to use play action.  That Boilermaker front is better at getting after the quarterback than stopping the run, and Mertz' ails aren't fixed.  He threw for 112 yards against Army last week, and completed just 4 passes for 54 yards to receivers.  Purdue won't even pretend what they are going to try and do.  Get the ball to David Bell.  They proved last week, against a good Iowa defense, that they don't care if you know it's coming.  Seeing tight end Payne Durham get involved again last week was nice, but I don't know how you finish with 15 yards on 5 receptions.
PURDUE 20, WISCONSIN 14

Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 22, 2021, 07:44:20 PM
I'm not giving up on Mertz - yet.

Did you see UW lost a talented WR this week to the portal?

He said there is talent in the WR room going to waste because of play calling.
A) You should.

B) it's going to waste because Mertz stinks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 22, 2021, 07:56:05 PM
Wisconsin's QB always stinks, with the lone exception of Russel Wilson.

Generally it doesn't matter much, because they rarely throw a forward pass. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on October 22, 2021, 09:19:29 PM
I thought Coan in 2019 was a pretty good QB.  I agree that the rest besides Wilson were mostly game managers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: bayareabadger on October 22, 2021, 10:34:32 PM
I'm not giving up on Mertz - yet.

Did you see UW lost a talented WR this week to the portal?

He said there is talent in the WR room going to waste because of play calling.
A. I didn't say he's not fixable, but for the moment, sucks. 
B. There is nothing to indicate that the kid is talented. If he's talented, he'd play more
C. I think this WR room is fine. Maybe above average, but it has two guys who have been around a long time and have not lived up to modest hype for the most part. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2021, 12:45:21 AM
I don't know what will happen, but it is possible Purdue will have the same hangover that Iowa had last week.
Title: Re: Wisconsin (3-3, 1-2) at #25 Purdue (4-2, 2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 23, 2021, 01:22:44 AM
Purdue always gets trounced after pulling a Spoilermaker. You can set your watch to it.

I remember I predicted it after the last time that they beat OSU and you all thought that I was crazy. Then they suffered a double digit loss to a hilariously bad Michigan State team.

To their credit they did bounce back and beat a ranked Iowa team the week after that. But then Minnesota beat them 41-10
Title: Re: Wisconsin (2-2, 4-3) at #25 Purdue (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 24, 2021, 08:21:23 AM
Gotta love how Mertz put a run pursuing DE on his rear with a nasty blind side hit at 5:10 in the 4th.  The Purdue player had to come out and Mertz didn’t seem to mind getting the 15 yard penalty.  The kid is a football player.