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Title: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 16, 2021, 12:07:20 AM
So we're not even pretending they're student-athletes anymore.
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What's your major?
Football.
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: MarqHusker on October 16, 2021, 12:18:24 AM
Ncaa not exactly taking the lead on this but continues our acceptance of lower expectations. 
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 16, 2021, 06:34:43 AM
“The recommendation was made by the NCAA Standardized Test Score Task Force, which was formed as part of the NCAA's eight-point plan to advance racial equity. “

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6277365207001#sp=show-clips
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 16, 2021, 07:57:26 AM
Whatever.
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: MaximumSam on October 16, 2021, 08:02:26 AM
They are being admitted to play a sport. They need aptitude in that, not geometry. 
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2021, 08:16:16 AM
better for the SEC than Stanford
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: bayareabadger on October 16, 2021, 08:26:43 AM
So, it seems like part of a broader push to reduce or eliminate reliance on those tests. I don’t totally agree with some of the reasons for it, but I also don’t have a particular affinity for the role they play in our system of gatekeeping for education. 

I admit, this is probably linked to being somewhat naturally good at standardized tests and seeing some of the weird quirks that result from that. 

(I also think they can create some bad incentives when it comes to the recruiting process, but that’s it’s own thing for mid-tier talent)
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 16, 2021, 10:18:11 AM
This isn't exactly on-topic, but one could make the case that America's tumble down the education rankings over the last few decades can be attributed to the (lazy) reliance on standardized testing.  
The multiple choice format exists for its ease and speediness of grading, not to actually measure mastery of a subject.  
When a chimpanzee can score a 25% on your test on any in-depth subject, it's not a good test.  
But we've heavily relied on it for decades.
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on October 16, 2021, 10:22:41 AM
Well you usually can't get into college with a 25% score, so there's that. 

Although I think there might be a few chimps that were brighter than a few of my fraternity brothers :57:
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 16, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
Well you usually can't get into college with a 25% score, so there's that.

Although I think there might be a few chimps that were brighter than a few of my fraternity brothers :57:
😂😂
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 16, 2021, 11:15:05 AM
A chimp might be able to get 25% of the answers correct, but it would have quite a bit of trouble filling in the bubbles with a number 2 pencil, without breaching the boundaries. 
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2021, 11:30:59 AM
practice, practice, practice
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Mdot21 on October 16, 2021, 12:30:09 PM
They are being admitted to play a sport. They need aptitude in that, not geometry.
basically this. NCAA min test scores were always stupid. 

Schools should be able to admit whomever they want on a case by case basis. 
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: FearlessF on October 16, 2021, 12:43:27 PM
not here to play school
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 16, 2021, 03:22:31 PM
Plenty of them are playing doctor with the sorority girls.
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: MrNubbz on October 17, 2021, 11:43:52 PM

Schools should be able to admit whomever they want on a case by case basis.
They usually do go thru case after case - so they have that going for them
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: FearlessF on October 18, 2021, 09:45:23 AM
Plenty of them are playing doctor with the sorority girls.
They usually do go thru case after case - so they have that going for them
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: MrNubbz on October 18, 2021, 10:02:15 AM
I recognize plagiarism when I see it,almost failed H.S. because of that
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Temp430 on October 18, 2021, 10:05:32 AM
Its a bad idea.  A better idea would be to raise the standard.  Or go to a blind admission process where athletes have to meet the same admission standards as normal students with no affirmative action BS.  The NFL can start farm teams for those who don't want a college degree.
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: FearlessF on October 18, 2021, 10:23:51 AM
don't be messin up my favorite sport
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: MaximumSam on October 18, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
Yale doesn't even have grades - not sure why Football U needs to have SAT scores
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: Benthere2 on October 18, 2021, 04:37:25 PM
how much is the NFL giving to the NCAA to split among its teams for the Football minor league?
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on October 18, 2021, 04:43:58 PM
Its a bad idea.  A better idea would be to raise the standard.  Or go to a blind admission process where athletes have to meet the same admission standards as normal students with no affirmative action BS.  The NFL can start farm teams for those who don't want a college degree.
While I agree conceptually, on a practical level this would eliminate almost all of the players we root for.  
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: bayareabadger on October 18, 2021, 06:01:54 PM
Its a bad idea.  A better idea would be to raise the standard.  Or go to a blind admission process where athletes have to meet the same admission standards as normal students with no affirmative action BS.  The NFL can start farm teams for those who don't want a college degree.
While an interesting idea, it remains idealism without a support base. Colleges running semi-professional sports teams prefer access to better players. There negative value in the NFL getting into the business of guiding hundreds of kids. 

It would be interesting because mid-majors with no brand value would suddenly be throttling the big boys.  
Title: Re: NCAA Proposal to Remove Minimum Test Scores
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on October 18, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
Its a bad idea.  A better idea would be to raise the standard.  Or go to a blind admission process where athletes have to meet the same admission standards as normal students with no affirmative action BS.  The NFL can start farm teams for those who don't want a college degree.
WNBA?