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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: Gigem on October 10, 2021, 10:10:37 AM
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Been a long time since we beat Bama. 2012 and Johnny Football.
Where was this team earlier in the season? Defense was making plays, Calzada was making smooth passes.
Almost gave it up on the punt TD and stupid INT. No chance to win the SEC barring a miracle but still have a lot to play for.
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CFB is crazy.
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so... the formula for beating Bama is NOT to play their game or attempt to match their tempo... the formula is for your players, who don't have three deep recovery options, to play like that game is the last game they'll ever play and leave it all on the field- to approach the game without a single concern about losing because your season is already decided...
whodathunkit?
as a tennessee fan, i figure we've got them right where we want them.... (riiiiiiiiiiight).
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Maybe between the Florida game and now this one Alabama has lost a step. I looked it up, UTenn hasn’t beaten them since 2006. That’s a long time, and most of those games were blow outs. Alabama hasn’t had two conference losses in, like forever. Please give them one this year, we need a little help to make the ccg.
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Alabama had two conference losses in 2019.
We're certainly not going to help you get their second L, but only because we hate Aggies so much.
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Good. We need your hate.
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From the Twitters:
"Bama’s defense looks totally out of sorts, but this is nothing 2022 defensive analyst Ed Orgeron can’t fix."
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Gigem - As a diehard Georgia fan, I'd like to personally thank your team from the bottom of my heart. I don't care about being number 1 right now, what I care about is not having to play Alabama twice in a season. Granted, LOT of football between now and the end of the season, but the possibility of having to face Bama twice (once in SEC championship, once in Playoff) was daunting at best.
Of course, the flip side is that this will probably motivate Bama to become way better and they'll end up destroying us in the SEC championship. Eh, I'll still take it. :)
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I can only imagine what LSU felt in 2011 when they finally slayed the giant only to face them again in the BCS championship. And then losing as badly as they did. Or Georgia a few years later when they were stuffing Hurts and then Tua came in and almost single handedly won them the game.
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Yes, unfortunately I know exactly how the national championship game from the 2017 felt, as I was there. Probably the lowest sporting moment of my life. We were planning on how to storm the field in the late third quarter when we were up by 10, and when Tua later threw that throw....I collapsed into a ball. And 10 minutes later I got a migraine, because why not I guess.
Aggies really looked strong though Saturday. Without the injuries, who knows what this season would have been for you guys. But Jimbo certainly has the program on the rise!
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I can only imagine what LSU felt in 2011 when they finally slayed the giant only to face them again in the BCS championship. And then losing as badly as they did. Or Georgia a few years later when they were stuffing Hurts and then Tua came in and almost single handedly won them the game.
Well it sucked, but just as a point of clarification, LSU did not "finally slay the giant" in 2011, as LSU had won the previous year also and at that time Miles' LSU was 3-2 vs. Saban's Alabama. When Alabama won the rematch they pulled back even to 3-3 vs. LSU. LSU remained highly competitive in the games for a while, with a super-near misses in 2012 and 2014 (fantastic games, although we came on out the wrong end), 2014 arguably being lost on a blown call. 2013 was also a great game, 7 pt difference going into the 4th quarter with LSU having given away 10 pts in the game, so hypothetically had played well enough to be up by 3....but no question Alabama dominated the 4th quarter with superior depth, so that one wasn't as close as others. 2016 was sort of?? competitive, at least from the scoreboard (10-0), although IMO the Tigers were never in danger of winning that game as in other years. It's been 2017 and on that LSU was no longer competitive with Alabama, excepting 2019, which due to the record of the previous decade was much more "slaying the giant" than 2011 was.
The thing that stands out in my minds 10 years later about the 2011 season is that the perception of both games is skewed. By both fanbases and outsiders alike. Based on multiple lines of evidence, I have always maintained that those were two great teams that could have a variety of outcomes the more they played, BUT I never could get LSU fans to admit that the regular season game could've gone either way b/c it was simply a great game between two-well matched teams that LSU just happened to win....i.e., play that game 10 times and you probably get a 5/5 split. IMO opinion LSU wasn't "better," they just won. And I never could get Alabama fans to admit the rematch was not as representative of the two teams that season, given that LSU did two wonky things that night that was irregular for them, and it didn't work....at all. Play THAT game 10 times and LSU loses every single time.
The QB play is something that will probably forever haunt LSU fans. We had poor QB play consistently at that time, but the rematch was the nadir. Taking nothing away from how well Alabama played and how good they were, images of TE Deangelo Peterson streaking down the seam several times uncovered are burned in my memory. The QB was just that bad....he missed literally everything that was there that night. In people's minds it turned into "nothing worked, they covered everything, Alabama was infinitely greater, etc." but in truth even a regular "poor" QB probably makes that a different game (though not necessarily a win). That's the worst QBing I've ever seen, from any school, in any game, ever.
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That LSU team was en route to being widely considered one of the all-time great teams.
They beat the shit out of everyone, including 8 ranked teams.
But then the NFL rematch game vs Bama screwed that up.
Resume-wise, that Bama team beat up everyone else, too. But by a little bit fewer points. A little bit fewer ranked opponents.
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Not really fair to say "LSU beat the shit out of everyone" b/c they simply didn't vs. Alabama the first time. 9-6 OT is about as close as you can get.
Fair to say there were resume discrepancies, but mainly that affected the way I looked at who made the NC game. In multiple blind resume tests people almost always picked Oklahoma State to play LSU. However the real world isn't blind and the narrative had already set in.
It's a funny sport where Team A goes 12-1, Team B goes 13-1 against a better schedule, they're 1-1 against each other, and Team A gets to be NC in a "resume sport."
I know one thing....LSU would've lost to a number of teams in January 2012 if they played that same way, including OSU had they made it. Just a crappy way to end an otherwise great season.
Still, 2011 LSU and Alabama were two of the best defenses I've ever watched. I wonder how those same squads would fair against today's RPO offenses and the overall higher level of QB play the sport seems to have now.
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MDT,
You’re right, I didn’t realize LSU had won that many games against Satan and Bama. I just remember how happy the outcome was for LSU. I remember big hype about the game and LSU winning 9-6. At the time Alabama’s tide was seen as rising and LSUs was seen as falling.
So LSU winning was seen by us outsiders that Bama was in fact beatable and human.
Then when the rematch occurred it seemed like LSU was destined to face the monster again, like LSU was cursed. I mean when is the last time two teams from the same division of the same conference who already played have played again for the national championship? At the time A&M was in the B12 and I was really rooting for oSu.
IMO this is really the only true measurement of a helmet program. They get by with losses most other programs are not allowed to have to get in. Or at least it seems that way. It’s certainly oSUs fault they couldn’t get it done against ISU. But OU did pretty much the same thing and got in.