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Title: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 01:43:17 PM
Nebraska hung tough with the Sooners, took the Spartans into OT, and just spanked Northwestern.

Not thrilled that it's a 7:30pm night game. How's the OL Nebraska? Aidan Hutchinson has been wrecking OT's all-season long. David Ojabo has joined him the past 2 weeks in a row and really come alive. They keep getting production out of Ojabo going to be hard for teams to block this front- because Hutchinson simply can't be blocked by 1 guy.

Should be a doozy.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on October 03, 2021, 03:50:37 PM
Unlike past years this Nebraska team plays defense. Special teams is a problem, penalties are a problem, and ball security is a problem. Michigan is better in these areas.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 03, 2021, 03:54:15 PM
Michigan vs. Nebraska - Game Summary - October 9, 2021 - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401282778)

The spread is only 3.5.  I think Nebbie pulls one out here.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 03, 2021, 03:55:50 PM
I think Martinez leads the conference in passing yards. 😮
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 03, 2021, 06:20:57 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1SVoGptLI0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHxaSofMDI8
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on October 03, 2021, 06:24:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kKbyJy4ySg
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 06:45:13 PM
Michigan vs. Nebraska - Game Summary - October 9, 2021 - ESPN (https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401282778)

The spread is only 3.5.  I think Nebbie pulls one out here.
will Nebraska be able to run the ball on Michigan and will Nebraska's OL be able to handle Michigan's front? Aidan Hutchinson is unblockable and demands a double team. Nebraska's starting LT is a true frosh. That's not a good match-up for a true frosh. Tough ask for a true frosh to have to deal with a fully-realized senior Aidan Hutchinson playing out of his mind. David Ojabo is the young edge rusher opposite Hutchinson who has been feasting the last two weeks in a row. I think we'll see more and more big things from Ojabo as the season goes along. Dax Hill and his 4.30 heat-seeking missile speed is a problem coming on blitzes in every different direction- he's been a hard guy to get a read on for OL's as Michigan's new DC Mike McDonald sends him on blitzes on exotic looks. Michigan's MIKE LB Josh Ross has been very good blitzer as well this season. 

PFF OL Chart: 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAfH9N6WUAMVm78?format=jpg&name=medium)


PFF does not like Nebraska's OL. At all. IF they can't block Hutchinson & Ojabo and pick-up Dax Hill & Josh Ross on blitzes, Michigan rolls. IF they can rise to the task, then it becomes a pick 'em imo.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 06:57:55 PM
Nebraska has given up 18 sacks in 6 games. 3 a game. Michigan has better edge rushers than both OU and Michigan State, and Sparty had 7 sacks while OU got 5. 

The other 6 sacks they gave up came vs some bad teams. Other 4 teams Nebraska played have been pretty bad. Illinois, Northwestern, Buffalo, & Fordham. 

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2021, 08:52:19 PM
will Nebraska be able to run the ball on Michigan and will Nebraska's OL be able to handle Michigan's front? 

no and no
the Husker defense will have to play a helluava game to keep this one close

Martinez will have to play a great game while running for his life to put points on the board
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2021, 09:06:29 PM
Online oddsmakers had the Huskers as 4.5-point underdogs to the undefeated Wolverines, and that line quickly moved to five points shortly after opening. The Circa Las Vegas opened Nebraska as one-point underdogs, which moved to three points on Sunday afternoon.

Michigan enters Saturday’s primetime game with the Huskers at 5-0, and fresh off a 38-17 win at Wisconsin
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 03, 2021, 09:27:57 PM
Martinez is a dual-threat QB: There’s a good chance quarterback Adrian Martinez noted the success Rutgers had running the football in the second half against Michigan, especially with zone read and run-pass options. Noah Vedral taxed U-M’s defenders with deft fakes and strong decision making as the Scarlet Knights gained 156 rushing yards while averaging 5.8 yards per carry. Unlike Vedral, who is a capable runner but prefers to pass, Martinez is a true dual-threat quarterback, the first Michigan has faced this season. Through six games, Martinez leads the Cornhuskers in rushing with 412 yards (fifth in the nation among quarterbacks), and nine rushing touchdowns, which is tied for third among all players regardless of position. Harbaugh said the U-M defense struggled with eye discipline against Vedral, and Martinez presents an even tougher challenge.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2021/10/03/michigan-football-adrian-martinez-nebraska/5984876001/ (https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2021/10/03/michigan-football-adrian-martinez-nebraska/5984876001/)

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 03, 2021, 10:43:14 PM
only thing that's making me nervous is that it's a night game in another time zone on the road in a place that historically is very tough to get wins at.

Michigan needs to bring it's A game or they'll lose. I don't think this team is looking ahead to anyone, as they'll have a bye week after this game- and the game off their bye week is Northwestern- probably the worst team they'll play all year.

I have to think they'll be ready to play. No trap game to look ahead too, and Nebraska just routed Northwestern. Hopefully that caught their attention a little bit.

I really think this one will be close because Nebraska has a very good defense and it's a home night game.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 04, 2021, 06:12:02 AM
Nebraska 24  Michigan 20

You saw it here first.  Or second.  Or not at all.  If they don't win, you never saw this.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 04, 2021, 07:20:52 AM
Martinez is the type of QB, very talented dual-threat, that has given Michigan fits over the decades.  I believe Donovan McNabb was the first to school Michigan in dual threat pain 1998.  The obvious key to the game from Michigan's perspective to limit the amount of damage Martinez dishes out.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 04, 2021, 07:39:57 AM
Martinez is the type of QB, very talented dual-threat, that has given Michigan fits over the decades.  I believe Donovan McNabb was the first to school Michigan in dual threat pain 1998.  The obvious key to the game from Michigan's perspective to limit the amount of damage Martinez dishes out.
You would like to think that Macdonald would know a thing or two about defending mobile QB's after practicing against Lamar Jackson every day. 

For Nebraska the game all comes down to can they block Michigan's front 7? If they can't, Michigan will likely win. Martinez will have to bring his absolute A game as well. Martinez is a really good QB, but he's had his bouts with inconsistency and turnovers. If Nebraska can't block Hutchinson & Ojabo and Martinez is running for his life and commits a turnover or two- Michigan might be able to run away with it and start pouring it on. Martinez has to take care of the ball.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 04, 2021, 11:14:19 AM
Michigan has given up 64 points this season, for an average of 12.8 ppg. However, if you remove three garbage time TD's vs the 2nd and 3rd stringers that all came late in 4th QTR when games were out of hand- 4th QTR TD vs WMU up 47-7, 4th QTR TD vs. NIU up 63-3, and the last minute TD vs. Wisconsin up 38-10- and Michigan's first team defense has only given up 43 points through 5 games for a 8.6 ppg average.

That's not too shabby, no matter the competition you're facing.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 04, 2021, 11:28:06 AM
Nebraska is playing better but Michigan -3 seems a little tight.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2021, 07:21:20 PM
agreed, unfortunately
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2021, 07:21:40 PM
Series History: Nebraska vs. Michigan
Saturday's matchup between Nebraska and Michigan will be the 11th all-time matchup between the two schools, with Michigan owning a 5-4-1 advantage. The teams have split four games since Nebraska joined the Big Ten Conference in 2011.

Saturday's meeting will be Michigan's first visit to Lincoln since 2012, when unranked Nebraska defeated No. 20 Michigan, 23-9, in a prime-time matchup at Memorial Stadium.

This will be just the third meeting between the schools in Lincoln, with schools playing to a tie in a matchup in 1911.

While the schools met just four times in Nebraska's first 10 years in the Big Ten, Nebraska and Michigan are set to meet each year from 2021 to 2025.

Before Nebraska's entry into the Big Ten, the teams played just twice between 1962 and 2011, splitting a pair of bowl matchups. Michigan won 27-23 in the 1986 Fiesta Bowl, while Nebraska earned a four-point win in the 2005 Alamo Bowl.

Husker-Wolverines Tilt Features Two Traditional Powers
Nebraska and Michigan are two of just eight schools in college football history to win 900 or more games, with Michigan ranking first in all-time victories (969) and Nebraska seventh (908).
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2021, 09:32:49 PM
Co-Defensive Player of the Week
David Ojabo, Michigan
LB – Jr. – Aberdeen, Scotland. – Blair Academy (N.J.)
Recorded 2.5 sacks and led the Wolverines with seven tackles (four solo), including two for a loss, in Michigan’s 38-17 win vs. Wisconsin
Added the first forced fumble of his career on a strip sack in the fourth quarter
Registered the first multi-sack game of his career
Earns his first career Defensive Player of the Week accolade
Last Michigan Defensive Player of the Week: Aidan Hutchinson (Oct. 7, 2019)
Co-Defensive Player of the Week
JoJo Domann, Nebraska
LB – Sr. – Colorado Springs, Colo. – Pine Creek (Colo.)
Recorded a career-high two sacks, forced two fumbles and led the Huskers defense with nine tackles (eight solo) in Nebraska’s 56-7 win over Northwestern. Helped lead a Nebraska defense that allowed its fewest points in a Big Ten game since 2019
With Northwestern threatening in the second quarter on the Nebraska 1, forced a fumble to help prevent a Wildcats score
Is one of just six FBS players to record at least two sacks and two forced fumbles in a single game in 2021 and is the only FBS player to record at least nine tackles, two sacks and two forced fumbles in a game this season
Earns the first Defensive Player of the Week honor of his career
Last Nebraska Defensive Player of the Week: Luke Reimer (Sept. 13, 2021)
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2021, 12:04:48 PM
Co-Defensive Player of the Week
Added the first forced fumble of his career on a strip sack in the fourth quarter.
this is incorrect. Ojabo did the same thing week before in the 4th QTR vs Rutgers.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2021, 12:07:40 PM
Harbaugh shares a story about how when they got back from Wisconsin he was in his office unpacking things, and he looks out and sees a trio of true frosh QB JJ McCarthy, RB Donovan Edwards, & WR Andrel Anthony out on the practice field working on routes & hand-off exchanges- working to get better- literally right after getting back from Wisconsin.

Just a matter of time- when not if- JJ McCarthy takes over the QB job from McNamara.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2021, 12:16:13 PM
JJ McCarthy statline so far this season: 

9-13, 68.2% completion, 178 passing yards, 2 Pass TD's, 1 Rush TD, 0 INT, 235 Passer Rating.

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 05, 2021, 12:49:30 PM
Michigan needs two QBs ready to play given recent history. The last time Michigan played in Lincoln in 2012 Michigan QB Denard Robinson was injured and had to come out of the game.  His backup, who I no longer remember, was not ready.  Devin Gardner stayed at WR.  Still frustrated about that situation.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 05, 2021, 05:28:22 PM
Michigan needs two QBs ready to play given recent history. The last time Michigan played in Lincoln in 2012 Michigan QB Denard Robinson was injured and had to come out of the game.  His backup, who I no longer remember, was not ready.  Devin Gardner stayed at WR.  Still frustrated about that situation.
Russell Bellomy.  IIRC he threw more interceptions than completions
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2021, 08:37:13 PM
Russell Bellomy.  IIRC he threw more interceptions than completions
Yeah, he was terrible. But he probably never should've been at Michigan in the first place. He was only there because Hoke screwed the QB recruiting up so bad. Michigan has went on a run of some astonishingly terrible QB's post 2007.

Even through Harbaugh's tenure, by far the best guy he had was a 5th year sr grad transfer Jake Rudock who Iowa didn't want. McNamara is looking like he's probably 2nd or 3rd best right there with Shea Patterson. Rest of them pretty much sucked.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 05, 2021, 11:06:23 PM
Defensive end Aidan Hutchinson anchors a Michigan defense that is allowing just 12.8 points per game, which is third in the Big Ten Conference and sixth in the nation. Hutchinson, a 6-foot-6, 265-pounder, leads the Wolverines with six tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks.

“He’s the best defensive player that we’ve seen on tape,” Nebraska offensive coordinator Matt Lubick said Tuesday. “He plays with a great motor and they give him some freedom, but he’s always in the right place at the right time. He chases things down and never takes a play off. He’s explosive, strong and we have to be aware of where he is at all times.”
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 05, 2021, 11:10:58 PM
With an undefeated top-10 opponent coming to Lincoln, the Huskers are hoping that the fans create another raucous environment like the one they did last week against Northwestern.

“I think our guys were fired up last week and I think they’ll be even more juiced up this week,” Chinander said. “The crowd was awesome and the light show was pretty awesome. We talked about it the other day—you have a 6:30 p.m. kick in Memorial Stadium on national television against a ranked team, if you ain’t up for this one, you don’t belong in our room.”
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 05, 2021, 11:47:09 PM
Defensive end Aidan Hutchinson anchors a Michigan defense that is allowing just 12.8 points per game, which is third in the Big Ten Conference and sixth in the nation. Hutchinson, a 6-foot-6, 265-pounder, leads the Wolverines with six tackles for loss and 5.5 sacks.
Take away the 3 late 4th QTR garbage time TD's scored in blowouts vs the 2nd and 3rd stringers and Michigan's 1st string D unit is actually giving up just 8.6 PPG.

Hutchinson is the best defensive player in the nation imo. And the edge player opposite him- David Ojabo is starting to break-out into a star. His emergence makes this defense a completely different animal because with the way they blitz Dax Hill and his 4.3 speed from different looks and every which way & with Aidan Hutchinson being virtually unblockable every snap- they get another pass rusher opposite Hutch- makes it almost impossible to block that front.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 06, 2021, 09:37:29 AM
Russell Bellomy.  IIRC he threw more interceptions than completions
Thank you.  This year if Michigan’s back up QB has to enter a corn shit storm like Bellomy I’m much more confident he’ll be able to move the offense.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on October 06, 2021, 11:03:00 AM
An interception really is a completion, no?
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 06, 2021, 01:58:02 PM
For anyone lucky enough to be headed to Lincoln this weekend............... here's the official invite
This is your formal invitation to Phil & Harry's BIG RED Sharkwater Party on October 9th! 
On October 9th the Huskers will host the Michigan Wolverines in Lincoln, Nebraska.
With a great Kickoff time of 6:44pm.
We will be starting the tailgate party about 11am on Saturday. 
Stop by, sit in a lawn chair, eat , drink, and talk college football.
Same spot as the past few seasons. A parking lot on the northwest corner of 8th and "L" Street. The lot is just three blocks south of "O" Street on South 8th street.  Near the Meadow Gold Dairy and under the Rosa Parks Way overpass.
Go to Google Maps and type in, "801 L Street, Lincoln, NE" or try this link:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/801+L+St,+Lincoln,+NE+68508/@40.8103181,-96.7099837,18z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x8796bf03ca51d6b7:0xf179fbb64906ef5d
If you get lost call my cell phone at (712) 870-1298.  I answer to Fearless
Bring whatever food and beverage you'd like. Harry will have a grill there. We’ll have burgers and brats and some beer (Bud Heavy)
A lawn chair and cheap sunglasses will come in handy.
I'll have paper plates, napkins, some mustard, a folding table, a cooler or two, and a large batch of "Sharkwater".
I’m hoping our Michigan Wolverine friends will attend the party!  Opposing fans ALWAYS make the party.
Yes, COVID interrupted this tailgate last season.  This will be my 19th Sharkwater Party.  Harry is kind enough to host the event at his tailgate party, so please be respectful.
Please let me know if you plan to attend.  Trying to get a rough head count.
Fearless Phil
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2021, 05:33:34 PM
sounds like a blast. only wish I could make it to Lincoln. Maybe next time! 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on October 06, 2021, 07:07:19 PM
I'll raise a glass from College Station 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2021, 08:35:37 PM
Nebraska fellas, is this true?

"Nebraska's is switching up their starting Offensive Line on Saturday. Here is their plan:

LT - Teddy Prochazka - 0 starts
LG - Nouredin Nouili - 1 start
C - Cam Jurgens - 25 starts
RG - Matt Sichterman - 6 starts
RT  - Turner Corcoran - 6 starts"



Have the Nebraska coaches watched Aidan Hutchinson? This guy is making his first start vs a guy that's looking like a top 5 NFL Draft pick in 2022. That's a tough ask of any dude, let alone one with zero starts.

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 06, 2021, 08:46:25 PM
could watch this guy all day long. he's everything I thought Rashan Gary would be.


https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1445074260175822851?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenGlassmireNFL/status/1445578462136205334?s=20

https://twitter.com/RyderM25/status/1445522586599714817?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenGlassmireNFL/status/1445572880008290305?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenGlassmireNFL/status/1445542463037345792?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenGlassmireNFL/status/1445261625091522564?s=20

https://twitter.com/BenGlassmireNFL/status/1445539157837680655?s=20

https://twitter.com/benzkenney/status/1444460075221913600?s=20
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2021, 09:59:56 AM
Nebraska fellas, is this true?

"Nebraska's is switching up their starting Offensive Line on Saturday. Here is their plan:

LT - Teddy Prochazka - 0 starts
LG - Nouredin Nouili - 1 start
C - Cam Jurgens - 25 starts
RG - Matt Sichterman - 6 starts
RT  - Turner Corcoran - 6 starts"



Have the Nebraska coaches watched Aidan Hutchinson? This guy is making his first start vs a guy that's looking like a top 5 NFL Draft pick in 2022. That's a tough ask of any dude, let alone one with zero starts.


this is true, but the left side needed a change.  The O-line play has been awful this season, especially the left side.

Obviously, this lineup seemed to work last saturday vs woeful Northwestern - 400 yards rushing
it won't be so easy vs Michigan
could be ugly
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 07, 2021, 11:26:30 AM
I keep thinking of how Nebraska played Oklahoma and how Michigan played in the second half against Rutgers.  Somewhat similar offensive styles by Rutgers and Nebraska.  And Martinez is a much better QB than Rutgers.  So there is that to be concerned about.

Michigan needs to both pressure and contain Martinez.  There's a good chance you'll shoot yourself in the rear by flushing him out of the pocket.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 07, 2021, 01:47:49 PM
this is true, but the left side needed a change.  The O-line play has been awful this season, especially the left side.

Obviously, this lineup seemed to work last saturday vs woeful Northwestern - 400 yards rushing
it won't be so easy vs Michigan
could be ugly
I wonder if they found a formula that worked from a playcalling standpoint against Northwestern, and this is the better run blocking line?
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 07, 2021, 04:35:50 PM
I keep thinking of how Nebraska played Oklahoma and how Michigan played in the second half against Rutgers.  Somewhat similar offensive styles by Rutgers and Nebraska.  And Martinez is a much better QB than Rutgers.  So there is that to be concerned about.

Michigan needs to both pressure and contain Martinez.  There's a good chance you'll shoot yourself in the rear by flushing him out of the pocket.
Oklahoma is not all that. I watch Spencer Rattler play, and he's just not on the same level as Baker, Kyler, or even Jalen Hurts. Not even in the same stratosphere. Wonder how the kid was rated so highly. Believe he was an OMGERRRG FIVE STARZZZZ and the #1 QB his class.

Michigan has looked really good for 18 QTRs of football. That first half vs Rutgers should've been like 31-3 minimum, but Cade McNamara was spotty and missed a lot of throws- including a pair of wide open TD's. McNamara attempted 5 throws total in the entire 2nd half vs Rutgers and Michigan looked like shit, didn't score a point and gave up 10 points. That game shouldn't have even been close. McNamara under-performed in the 1st half and is the only reason why it was 20-3 and not 31-3, and then in the 2nd half that whole team just kinda shit the bed. It was a super weird two QTRs of bad football. The other 18 QTRs of football, Michigan has been pretty solid.

Martinez has been known to make mistakes and throw picks. You pressure any QB often and they're going to make mistakes. Key to this game for Michigan is to overwhelm that inexperienced Nebraska OL. Hutchinson needs to come to play and so does Ojabo.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 07, 2021, 04:37:25 PM
I wonder if they found a formula that worked from a playcalling standpoint against Northwestern, and this is the better run blocking line?
Hard to learn anything from a beatdown of Northwestern. Northwestern is truly awful this year. 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on October 07, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
Martinez has been known to make mistakes and throw picks. You pressure any QB often and they're going to make mistakes. Key to this game for Michigan is to overwhelm that inexperienced Nebraska OL. Hutchinson needs to come to play and so does Ojabo.
hopefully Hutch and Ojabo have taken the week off from practice cause they KNOW this will be a field day for NFL scouts
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: ELA on October 08, 2021, 02:26:41 PM

#9 Michigan Wolverines (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska Cornhuskers (1-2, 3-3)
7:30 - Lincoln, NE - ABC
Considering Nebraska is in their 11th season as a Big Ten member, a portion of which spent in the same division as Michigan, it's sort of surprising that this is their second meeting since 2013, and the first time in 9 years that they've played in Lincoln.  The teams have split their first four meetings as conference foes, but the only one that was a close game was in 2013, a 17-13 Husker win in Ann Arbor.  In the last meeting, Nebraska tried to pull the upset with an injured, freshman Taylor Martinez.  Didn't go so well.  This year didn't start so well, but the defense is playing better, and the running game may have figured some things out last week with an attack that looked a lot more like the one Scott Frost was in as a player in Lincoln than the one he had been coaching.  There is perhaps just a teensy difference between the Northwestern defense and the Wolverines' defense though.  Small sample size to be sure, but in conference games, Michigan is allowing 3.2 ypc, and 119.5 rushing ypg; both 4th best in the conference, and are the lone Big Ten team yet to surrender a rushing touchdown.  Northwestern is allowing 8.4 ypc, nearly 4 ypc worse than any other conference team; 376 rushing ypg, more than double anyone else; and have allowed 11 rushing touchdowns.  I think it's safe to say that Nebraska won't get away with running the ball 50+ times again.  The Husker passing attack is largely dependent on getting big plays out of Samori Toure, who is in the top 10 nationally in yards per catch.  Last week only boosted those stats, as he caught just 2 balls; but one for 38 yards, and the other for 70.  Adrian Martinez is not going to dink and dunk his way down the field with accurate passing.  To hit those big plays, he needs protection.  His line struggled to provide that against a good Michigan State pass rush.  I don't know how they have a shot against Aidan Hutchinson, who has been the best best defensive player in the conference thus far.  The environment in Lincoln should be fantastic, but the Huskers need to avoid giving Michigan's offense short fields off turnovers and three and outs.  Something Wisconsin couldn't do last weekend.  As good as the Michigan run game was in non-conference play, since Big Ten play has started, it's been pretty bad; 11th in the conference in ypc.  Make them go 70+ yards consistently against the Blackshirts, and you've got a shot.
MICHIGAN 27, NEBRASKA 21

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2021, 02:48:19 PM
Fantastic write up & prediction. Kinda my thoughts as well. It’ll be a very close 1 score pick em game. Very nervous about it. Hutchinson & Ojabo need to overwhelm that line for Michigan to win IMO.

My one note on the Michigan run game would be this- teams have been selling out to stop the run game. That will get fixed when Michigan can prove it actually has a legit QB and passing game. 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 08, 2021, 07:35:08 PM
insidery chatter is that starting WR Roman Wilson out with an undisclosed injury.

Michigan's #1 WR - Ronnie Bell out for the season, and now their new #2 but previously #3 WR - and fastest player on offense- Roman Wilson who was really having himself a nice couple weeks in a row- out.

Not good news for Michigan. Really good news for Nebraska.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on October 10, 2021, 08:12:33 AM
Great road win in a tough environment.  Bye next week and then Northwestern at home on the 23rd.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on October 10, 2021, 08:26:57 AM
That bye appears to be coming at the right time to heal up for M.How bad are the other WRs banged up? Also i was a big Scott Frost fan and i know hindsight is 20/20 but going for the early field goal and letting martinez chuck it deep more than few times instead of grinding it out .Lost the last 3 games by 10 pts,it's like martinez wasn't coached to hang onto the ball late in a close game.Very easily could have split with the Michigan teams
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on October 10, 2021, 09:09:03 AM
What have we said about 'bye'(s)?   Nobody has a bye, they are 'idle'.  

Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 10, 2021, 12:25:25 PM
Cade McNamara career totals: 

10 games, 8 starts: 

115 completions, 190 attempts, 60.5% completion, 1,411 Pass Yards, 7.4 Y/A, 10 TD's vs. 1 INT. 


Pretty fn pedestrian. Only thing that sticks out is- he doesn't turn the ball over. Nice TD to INT ratio. But that's it. Completion % is mediocre af. Yards per attempt is terrible. Total yards is embarrassing. 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on October 10, 2021, 01:22:21 PM
Cade McNamara career totals:

10 games, 8 starts:

115 completions, 190 attempts, 60.5% completion, 1,411 Pass Yards, 7.4 Y/A, 10 TD's vs. 1 INT.


Pretty fn pedestrian. Only thing that sticks out is- he doesn't turn the ball over. Nice TD to INT ratio. But that's it. Completion % is mediocre af. Yards per attempt is terrible. Total yards is embarrassing.
I see your point but I would have a different perspective.

I think he is just what the doctor ordered because Michigan has a solid running game, a very solid offensive line, a very solid defense and very solid special-teams.

they are not going to beat themselves and they’re not going to give anything easy. That’s a winning formula 95% of the time
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (2-0, 5-0) at Nebraska (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on October 10, 2021, 02:32:11 PM
I see your point but I would have a different perspective.

I think he is just what the doctor ordered because Michigan has a solid running game, a very solid offensive line, a very solid defense and very solid special-teams.

they are not going to beat themselves and they’re not going to give anything easy. That’s a winning formula 95% of the time
Michigan running game isn't going to be as dominant as it should be if defenses don't respect the pass at all. Rutgers was able to shut down the Michigan run in the 2nd half simply because they sold out to stop the run and put 9 men in the box and dared Michigan to beat them with the pass.

The only redeeming thing about McNamara isn't he doesn't turn it over. That isn't enough to compete with Ohio State. To actually beat Ohio State- they are going to have to move the ball through the air and put up points. McNamara is not capable of doing that.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 11, 2021, 07:50:18 AM
I would have major reservations about starting a true freshman QB even if he did show up in January.  McCarthy has the talent but lacks the all too critical experience.  The coaching staff is getting him that experience about as fast as possible but he's not there yet by a long shot.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: bayareabadger on October 11, 2021, 09:43:17 AM
Michigan running game isn't going to be as dominant as it should be if defenses don't respect the pass at all. Rutgers was able to shut down the Michigan run in the 2nd half simply because they sold out to stop the run and put 9 men in the box and dared Michigan to beat them with the pass.

The only redeeming thing about McNamara isn't he doesn't turn it over. That isn't enough to compete with Ohio State. To actually beat Ohio State- they are going to have to move the ball through the air and put up points. McNamara is not capable of doing that.
The bolded part makes me chuckle because it's so much a state of mind as compared to actually describing anything on a field. Like, unless you're on the goal line, the offense has to basically invite nine men into the box, and even a Harbs offense never does.

It's kind of like the run-run-pass thing. That never actually means they go run-run-pass all the time. It means their ineffective and I remember them running it badly several times. 
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 10:40:40 AM
That bye appears to be coming at the right time to heal up for M.How bad are the other WRs banged up? Also i was a big Scott Frost fan and i know hindsight is 20/20 but going for the early field goal and letting martinez chuck it deep more than few times instead of grinding it out .Lost the last 3 games by 10 pts,it's like martinez wasn't coached to hang onto the ball late in a close game.Very easily could have split with the Michigan teams
Frost post game said he's have rather had the 3 points on the first drive instead of going on 4th and getting stuffed, but thought at that point in the game (very early) he needed to be aggressive and score TDs.  also admitted was too conservative with the offense in the first half trying to establish the run.  Hindsight

Martinez as a running QB has been coached to hang onto the ball since the 8th grade.  It's on Adrian, not the coach.  It's on the coach for playing him.

with just a bit of luck or a couple breaks, could have, should have, would have maybe swept the Michigan teams.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 10:42:51 AM
much talk regarding the officiating in this game from the media and both sides.  Neither head coach seemed happy at all.

any thoughts from y'all?
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: Hawkinole on October 11, 2021, 10:48:54 AM
Martinez as a running QB has been coached to hang onto the ball since the 8th grade.  It's on Adrian, not the coach.  It's on the coach for playing him.
Has Martinez ever been benched at Nebraska for his turnovers?
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 11, 2021, 10:58:18 AM
much talk regarding the officiating in this game from the media and both sides.  Neither head coach seemed happy at all.

any thoughts from y'all?

There were a few questionable calls and non-calls that I remember happening but not the details.  Of the ones I remember was the Husker linebacker being called for "disconcerting signals" or something like that at one point.  The LB was clapping to dick with Michigan QB's clapping and trying to get the OL to move early.  This should/could have been called a couple other times IMO.  On the fateful fumble late in the game Martinez was still making forward progress when he was stripped of the ball.  I know a lot of Nebraska fans have been bitching about that one...that the refs should have blown the whistle to end the play.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 11:00:09 AM
last season, the McCaferty kid took over and promptly turned the ball over just as much

McCafferty started 2 games last season and then hit the tranfer portal after the end of the season when it was clear MArtinez was Frost's fav
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 11:01:33 AM
I'm going to re-watch this game on Big Football in 60 on BTN right now

doesn't suck being retired on Monday Morning
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: SuperMario on October 11, 2021, 12:10:21 PM
There were a few questionable calls and non-calls that I remember happening but not the details.  Of the ones I remember was the Husker linebacker being called for "disconcerting signals" or something like that at one point.  The LB was clapping to dick with Michigan QB's clapping and trying to get the OL to move early.  This should/could have been called a couple other times IMO.  On the fateful fumble late in the game Martinez was still making forward progress when he was stripped of the ball.  I know a lot of Nebraska fans have been bitching about that one...that the refs should have blown the whistle to end the play.
When it happened live, I thought they should have blown the play dead. One of the replays with a camera angle from the other side of the field shows the ball is out much sooner than I thought from the original camera angle. It seems he was still making forward progress when it was stripped.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on October 11, 2021, 12:19:07 PM
Nebraska had 5 players in the backfield on the pass play that resulted in their first TD in the 3rd at 12:50.  They had already been called once for it in the game.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 12:20:05 PM
There were a few questionable calls and non-calls that I remember happening but not the details.  Of the ones I remember was the Husker linebacker being called for "disconcerting signals" or something like that at one point.  The LB was clapping to dick with Michigan QB's clapping and trying to get the OL to move early.  This should/could have been called a couple other times IMO.  On the fateful fumble late in the game Martinez was still making forward progress when he was stripped of the ball.  I know a lot of Nebraska fans have been bitching about that one...that the refs should have blown the whistle to end the play.

after watching the game in 60 minutes........

LB definitely clapped and caused the Michigan guard to flinch.  LB was called the defense and I don't think it was intentional, but it was a good call by the ref.
Martinez fumble late, don't know if he was still going forward, but he wasn't going backwards and he wasn't stopped for more than a split second.  I don't have a problem with the call. of the timing of the whistle.

one I noticed, on the bad spot on 3rd down that Harbaugh called the timeout to have reviewed....  there was a flag for illegal formation - obviously five offensive players in the backfield.  no reason to pick up the flag.  could have been 3rd and long with no need for a bad spot.  but, it was a bad spot and a first down.
you don't get all the official's stuff on the 60 minute replay, but I don't think the officials decided the game one way or another.
6 penalties accepted by each team, 2 for 1st downs by each team.
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 11, 2021, 12:21:10 PM
Nebraska had 5 players in the backfield on the pass play that resulted in their first TD in the 3rd at 12:50.  They had already been called once for it in the game.
yes, I noticed this as well
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 15, 2021, 10:29:36 AM
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Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: MarqHusker on October 15, 2021, 10:32:44 AM
Byw, A*M called for the same penalty twice last week.    
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on October 15, 2021, 10:52:54 AM
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HUH? lost me
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 15, 2021, 11:09:45 AM
you were eating a sammich over the sink and missed the kickass light show???
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: ELA on October 15, 2021, 11:13:43 AM
My 8 year old made me rewind it 3 times
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 15, 2021, 11:17:26 AM
the Wolverines seemed to enjoy it
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on October 15, 2021, 11:26:06 AM
you were eating a sammich over the sink and missed the kickass light show???
Bud Light,Miller Lite,Natty Light?
Title: Re: #8 Michigan (3-0, 6-0) at Nebraska (1-3, 3-4) Post Game
Post by: FearlessF on October 15, 2021, 12:15:55 PM
none of those lady's beverages in the stadium

maybe in your kitchen