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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on October 01, 2021, 11:54:36 PM
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Link to last week's rankings (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/b1g-power-rankings-week-4-24096/).
Votes through @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) , 15 voters:
(https://i.imgur.com/cT46VKO.png)
Drop the high and low vote for each team:
(https://i.imgur.com/nQPN6jq.png)
Schedule/performance chart:
(https://i.imgur.com/Tjxn2cF.png)
GOTY progression:
- Preseason: #1 tOSU vs #2 UW not scheduled, maybe B1GCG
- Week 1: #1 tOSU vs #2 PSUS 10/30 in Columbus
- Week 2: #1 Iowa vs #2 PSU 10/9 in Iowa City
- Week 3: #1 PSU at #2 Iowa 10/9 in Iowa City
- Week 4: #1 PSU at #2 tOSU 10/30 in Columbus
- Week 5: #1 Iowa vs #2 tOSU not scheduled, maybe B1GCG
COTY progression:
- Week 1: Tucker with Locksley and Schiano chasing
- Week 2: Tucker with Schiano and Ferentz chasing
- Week 3: Tucker with Schiano and Ferentz chasing
- Week 4: Tucker all alone with Schiano and Locksley well behind
- Week 5: Tucker all alone with Schiano and Locksley well behind
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1. Iowa
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I enjoy the charts.
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I look at the charts. I probably look at the first two the most, but also like watching the PR line graph play out over the year. I probably look at COTY chart the least, but I think it's a good chart.
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I look at the charts and I start to show severe withdrawal symptoms thoughout Tuesday if they don't show up promptly on Tuesday Morning.
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1. Ohio State
2. Iowa
3. Pennsylvania State
4. Michigan
5. Michigan State
6. Wisconsin
7. Maryland
8. Nebraska, looking better
9. Rutgers
10. Minnesota
11. Indiana
12. Purdue
13. Illinois
14. Northwestern
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1. Iowa: Hey I'm just rolling dice with the top four teams. Iowa gets the top spot this week with the steamrolling of Maryland. HEll, they even got over 400 yards of offense.
2. Michigan: Wisconsin's offense sucks, but their defense is great, and Michigan went on the road and had a lot of success. A week after it looked like throwing the ball just wasn't in the cards for them this year, they showed a pretty good passing game. Pretty complete team.
3. Penn State: Put a whipping on the Hoosiers. Would rank them higher but feels like Indiana has regressed to old Indiana this year.
4. Ohio State: Two weeks in a row where the defense didn't look like garbage. If they make it three I'll consider moving them up.
5. Michigan State: There is a bit of scotch tape and bubble gum holding this thing together, but hey, it's holding together. Undefeated, with four wins by double digits, ain't nothing to sneeze at.
6. Nebraska: Hey, that was a great performance, and after the top five you have to really grab on to what you can. Plus they outplayed the #5 team a week ago, so maybe Nebraska is legit? They welcome Michigan next week, and we will find out.
7. Wisconsin: Their offense is garbage. Their defense is good. I'm not sure they can score on anyone in the conference, but I'm not sure anyone can score on them outside the top few offenses.
8. Minnesota: Hey, they get a mulligan for Bowling Green.
9. Maryland: They get a mulligan for Iowa. Though losing Dontay Demus is a big blow headed into Ohio State.
10. Rutgers: They get a mulligan for OSU.
11. Purdue: I finally bothered with their box score and...what the hell. They outgained Minny by 150 yards. Only scored 13. Might be too low, but they have scored 13 in three straight games.
12. Indiana: Their offense is kaput
13. Illinois: Keep on Bertin.
14. Northwestern: Actually impressed with how bad they are after winning the West.
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Four apparently pretty good teams, as noted above, and then, well, not so good. Those top four are capable of laying eggs against the rest though. I suppose that isn't unusual. MSu is 5-0 and that is a something I think, even if not terribly impressive yet.
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Well, the more things change, the more they stay the same. The Big Ten East is back to being a top 4 of OSU, PSU, Mich, MSU and a bottom 3 of MD, Rut, Indy.
OSU, PSU, Mich, and Iowa all turned in impressive performances that on a normal weekend would be enough to jump them to #1, but only one can be #1. The teams in the top 5 are pretty clear in my mind, although the order of the top 4 can be debated big time.
1. OSU - I was all set to jump Iowa over OSU after Friday night, then OSU goes and annihilated what I thought was a decent Rutgers team.
2. Iowa - wow 51-14 over what I thought was a decent MD team. As usual Iowa's defense, turnovers, and penalties made the difference but Iowa's offense showed some life trying some different things. The true test comes next against PSU.
3. PSU - wow 24-0 over what I thought was a decent Indy team. Next week we can settle the Iowa-PSU debate on the field.
4. Mich - normally a dominating victory over Wiscy would be enough to jump to #3 or better. All I can say is just keep winning and #1 will come soon enough.
5. MSU - got off to great start against WKU and then went into a shell in 2nd half. MSU tests against the big boys are coming up, we will find out soon just how good MSU really is.
6. Neb - Wow 59-7 over a bad NW team. In hindsight, the only thing separating Neb from MSU is bad special teams plays.
7. Wisc - I was ready to drop Wiscy lower but everybody below them had their own clunkers. Wisc has got to figure it out on offense.
8. Minn - the BigTen's mystery team. What to make of those Jekyll and Hyde performances. Idk, I am putting them right in the middle.
9. Rut - Sorry, Rutgers is not ready yet to join the big boys.
10. MD - had some bad luck against Iowa but once again I saw signs that MD is a badly coached team. Too many flags on both sides killing MD's drives and keeping Iowa's drives alive. Lack of adjustments both on offense and defense. Iowa could have run the TE bootleg against MD defense all night long.
11. Ind - this team simply has no offense this year. I don't know why it disapeared.
12. Pur - I keep expecting Purdue to get better. But I am still waiting.
13. ILL - keeps it streak alive of playing awful in non-confeence games, but at least they won.
14. NW - no doubt in my mind NW is now the worst team in the conference. I guess for NW its - Even numbered years good - Odd numbered years awful.
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My "vote" is the same as the above.
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Saw this and agreed:
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1. Iowa
2. PSU
3. OSU
4. Michigan
5. MSU
6. Wisconsin
7. Minnesota
8. Maryland
9. Nebraska
10 Rutgers
11 Purdue
12 Indiana
13 Illinois
14 Northwestern
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I enjoy the charts.
1. Ohio State
2. Iowa
3. Michigan
4. Penn State
5. Michigan State
6. Nebraska
7. Minnesota
8. Wiconin
9. Rutgers
10. Maryland
11. Purdue
12. Indiana
13. Illinois
14. Northwestern
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1) Iowa - maybe MD is bad, but that was an impressive performance against anyone.
2) Penn State - nice shutout win. This is a very good team.
3) Ohio State - If Stroud plays like that going forward, they are moving up.
4) Michigan - McNamara had a great game. Expected a win, but not a blowout
5) Michigan State - Keep rolling.
6) Nebraska - They have looked good lately. I think they are going to overcome the Illinois loss and go bowling
7) Minnesota - Grinded one out. Really don't know what to expect week to week.
8) Wisconsin - Probably can't move them lower, but severely disappointing.
9) Maryland - Lost a key playmaker and fell apart. Is it one game, or are they gonna give up on the season.
10) Rutgers - Overmatched and the trick plays didn't work this time.
11) Purdue - Has some potential, but not a complete team. Hard to say how they'll do going forward.
12) Indiana - Time to throw them in the trash.
13) Illinois - Charlotte is actually a decent win.
14) Northwestern - It's grumpy Fitz time.
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1) Penn State (1)
2) Ohio State (2)
3) Michigan (3)
4) Iowa (5)
5) Michigan State (7)
6) Wisconsin (4)
7) Maryland (6)
8) Rutgers (8)
9) Nebraska (12)
10) Minnesota (10)
11) Indiana (9)
12) Purdue (11)
13) Illinois (13)
14) Northwestern (14)
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- Nittany Lions
- Wolverines
- Buckeyes
- Hawkeyes
- Spartans
- Terrapins
- Badgers
- Scarlet Knights
- Hoosiers
- Cornhuskers
- Golden Gophers
- Boilermakers
- Fighting Illini
- Wildcats
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1. Ohio State - Even though the "quality loss" against Oregon isn't as quality as it once was, OSU's defense continues to improve dramatically from game to game. I'd pick them over every other B1G team on a neutral site.
2. Iowa - The defense has always been scary, but it reached an entirely new level against Maryland. I'm still not a full believer in their offense, I think their defense has made life easy for their offense.
3. Michigan - I think they match up perfectly against PSU, and I would pick them on a neutral field.
4. Penn State - Very similar to Iowa, but the PSU defense isn't quite as dominating, and the PSU running game is significantly worse. If Clifford continues to play at a high level, they have a chance to beat anyone in the league.
5. Michigan State - They are undefeated, but I can't imagine them staying this high for long.
6. Maryland - Worst coaching in the B1G, and perhaps the power 5. If this was a well coached team they could compete with anyone in the league.
7. Nebraska
8. Wisconsin - ????
9. Rutgers
10. Minnesota
11. Indiana - I think they have 3 losses to top 5 teams? Maybe this team is better than we think?
12. Purdue
13. Illinois
14. Northwestern
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How come you gave Wiconin its S's back?
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1. Ohio State - offense looks to be clicking with a healthy Stroud. The defense has looked much improved last 2 weeks in a row. They have so much fire-power on offense, they just need a good, above average defense to be #1. And it looks like they are rounding into form there on defense. They have best talent on offense by far in the league and can put up points on anyone in this leauge.
2. Penn State - just a solid team top to bottom on both sides of ball, keep handling business, Clifford is a really good QB that just keeps leading them to W's.
3. Iowa - super impressive win vs Maryland. Defense is nasty, but still have ?'s about the offense and maybe Maryland had us all fooled a little bit and they suck??? I've got them basically tied with PSU.
4. Michigan - emergence of David Ojabo could make them scary on defense. Aidan Hutchinson has been literally unblockable, if he has a book-end partner terrorizing offensive lines as well- makes Michigan defense a lot scarier. QB and CB still their biggest ? mark. I feel like they are an elite QB and an elite #1 CB away from being #1 on this list and real playoff contenders. CB is just a weak spot on the roster and still not a believer in McNamara. At some point they will have to turn this thing over to JJ McCarthy at some point this year if they want a shot to ascend to #1 in the league imo.
5. Michigan State - undefeated, playing solid football and that whole team has bought in. They just keep winning, and I think they'll smoke Rutgers & beat Indiana and head into what will be a huge match-up at home vs Michigan.
6. Nebraska - better than their record indicates. They played OU tough, took MSU into OT and just drilled Northwestern at home. Very good, underrated front 7 on defense. That loss to Illinois in week 0 looms large. If they replayed that game now, they'd smoke Illinois.
7. Maryland - here by default really. they might actually be worse than this ranking.
8. Wisconsin - they have an elite defense. unfortunately their special teams and offense are total friggin' mess right now.
9. Minnesota - row that boat to 3rd place in the west, i guess?
10. Purdue - Brohm getting paid big bucks to put up only 13 pts for 3 weeks in a row kinda head scratching. Totally expected them to put up more points this year.
11. Rutger - they still suck. Michigan should've been up 28-3 on them at half and then blown them out last week but shit the bed 2nd half. Ohio State exposed them- these guys still suck.
12. Indiana - tough schedule, but Penix has been pretty bad this year and last year looking more and more like it was probably a fluke year for them.
13. Illinois - meh.
14. Northwestern - worst team in the league by far imo.
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Interesting week. #2, #3, and #4 all performed substantially above expectations while #6 through #10 all underperformed so at this point I think we have a clear top four (order is anybody's guess) followed by #5 MSU. After that we'll have #6-#13 in who knows what order then #14 Northwestern.
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How come you gave Wiconin its S's back?
Fourth quarter Wisconsin is not worthy of their S's. Seems kinda unfair to punish 1st, 2nd, and 3rd quarter Wisconsin...
Weirdly, I can still see Wisconsin winning out....
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- Ohio State - 1,1,1,1,1 Has now looked dominant two weeks in a row.
- Iowa - 4,5,4,4,4 The Hawkeyes look great and if they can keep their offense looking like that, they could be special.
- Michigan - 3,3,5,5,5 That was an impressive performance against UW but after watching tOSU just obliterate the Scarlet Knights I'm left clueless as to why the Wolverines couldn't put them away last week.
- Penn State - 2,2,2,2,3 I'm moving the Nittany Lions down not because they looked bad, they didn't. I'm moving them down because their wins got overshadowed by other teams. Indiana beat PSU last year and started this year ranked so a 24-0 shutout win over them should be great but Iowa beat them by 28. The four points is not important but the feel of the two games is. While PSU's win over the Hoosiers never really felt like it was in serious doubt, PSU didn't really put them away until very late. PSU led IU 14-0 at the half. In contrast, Iowa led IU 31-3 at the half. Similarly, PSU's six point win in Madison looked great when UW was a top-10 team but it has been degraded by ND's and now Michigan's more dominant performances against the Badgers.
- Wisconsin - 7,4,3,3,2 I think the people dropping UW to very low rankings are overreacting and missing some context. Yes, the Badgers are 0-2 in the league and 1-3 overall but the three teams they lost to are ranked #4, #9, and #14 nationally and two of the three losses were competitive well into the second half. Wisconsin isn't a bad team they just aren't as good as we expected and they've played a brutal schedule.
- Michigan State - 8,7,9,9,11 Everybody (until me) has them #5 basically by default but I think we are overrating them. The Spartans are undefeated but their best wins are over a sub.500 Miami team and a Nebraska team that lost to Illinois. Maybe they are a decent team but I don't think we know yet and their next two games are RU and IU so I don't think we are going to know until they host Michigan the day before Halloween.
- Nebraska - 12,12,14,14,9 If they played Illinois tomorrow I'd favor them by four TD's.
- Maryland - 5,8,6,7,12 I honestly saw the UMD/IA game as a toss-up, oops.
- Rutgers - 6,9,7,8,13 I honestly thought that RU could at least scare the Buckeyes, oops.
- Minnesota - 9,6,8,6,7 It is really hard to figure out a team that looks good-to-great against P5 opponents and horrible against MAC opponents.
- Indiana - 10,10,10,10,6 We may be underrating the Hoosiers. Their losses are to some really good teams.
- Purdue - 11,11,11,11,10 The Boilermakers really needed a win there.
- Illinois - 13,13,13,13,14 Got a win.
- Northwestern - 14,14,12,12,8 Worst in the B1G and it isn't close.
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Rankings preview with votes through mine, 14 voters:
- tOSU and Iowa are tied for 1/2 not far ahead of
- PSU is 3rd not far ahead of
- M is 4th then a HUGE gap then
- MSU is 5th then an even bigger gap then
- UNL is 6th barely ahead of
- UW is 7th not far ahead of
- UMD is 8th then a bit of a space then
- MN is 9th just barely ahead of
- RU is 10th then a HUGE gap then
- IU is 11th barely ahead of their arch-rival
- PU is 12th then a large gap then
- IL is 13th relatively comfortably over
- NU is last.
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Michigan State reminds me of Kentucky in some ways, maybe they will meet in a bowl game.
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Waiting for @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) 's vote because he usually votes right after I post results and right now I have a tie (tOSU and IA for 1/2) and several really close (MN/RU within one vote for 9/10, IU/PU within 2 votes for 11/12).
So while I'm waiting the top-4 are interesting. At this point nobody is voting for anyone other than tOSU/IA/PSU/M for the top-4 and everybody is voting those four teams in the top-4 but the order within the top-4 is definitely up for grabs. Votes:
- tOSU 7, IA 4, PSU 2, M 1
- IA 7, PSU 4, M 2, tOSU 1
- PSU 5, tOSU 4, M 4, IA 1
- M 7, PSU 3, tOSU 2, IA 2
There is some agreement (half of us each) on tOSU #1, IA #2, and M #4 but there is no agreement on PSU and #3. When you add it all up and average it you get:
- 29, 2.07 tOSU
- tie 29, 2.07 IA
- 37, 2.64 PSU
- 45, 3.21 M
Taking out the high and low for each doesn't really change anything because each teams' high is #1 and each teams' low is #4:
- 24, 2, tOSU
- tie 24, 2, IA
- 32, 2.67 PSU
- 40, 3.33 M
Only @Hawkinole (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=25) thinks that Michigan is #1; only @iahawk15 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=874) thinks that tOSU is #2; only @Mdot21 (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1595) thinks that IA is #3. Other than that each team has at least two votes for each spot between #1 and #4.
I get it, I think there is a realistic argument for each team at any of the four spots:
- Ohio State: The good is that they have a LOT of talent on the roster and they've looked pretty sharp the last two weeks. The bad is that they've played Akron and Rutgers the last two weeks. Akron sucks and maybe Rutgers isn't so good afterall? Have they really figured things out or have they just played lightweight opponents?
- Iowa: The good is that their resume looks phenomenal based on preseason rankings, their offense seems to be improving, and they've been solid pretty much every week with their weakest performance being against CSU in a two-score win. The bad is that the Indiana and Iowa State wins seem to get weaker every week and how did they struggle so much with a CSU team that got blown out by SoDak ST and lost to Vandy?
- Penn State: The good is that they have played easily the toughest schedule of the bunch and won them all. The bad is that their 6-point win in Madison doesn't look nearly so good now that the Badgers got blown out by both Michigan and Notre Dame and even their shutout of the Hoosiers didn't feel nearly as dominant as Iowa's win over the same opponent.
- Michigan: The good is basically everything except the second half of the Rutgers game and the bad is obviously the aforementioned second half of the Rutgers game. We probably shouldn't knock a team too much for one half of ugly football but it was REALLY ugly. Michigan led Rutgers 20-3 at the half and looked to be on their way to an easy win at home, then in the second half they had 47 yards of offense and one first down. Rutgers had more yards on each of three separate drives in the second half than Michigan had in the entire half and the Scarlet Knights scored 10 points to convert what looked to be on it's way to a blowout win by the Wolverines into a seven point home escape. Initially I thought (and I think most people here thought) that maybe Rutgers was just that good. Ok, no problem. Then Rutgers played Ohio State. The Buckeyes scored a TD on their second play from scrimmage and never looked back. The Buckeyes scored on their first seven possessions against Rutgers and added a pick-6 defensively to take a 52-6 lead early in the second half then coasted to a 52-13 win. Ohio State's absolute demolition of the Scarlet Knights makes Michigan's second half against them look abysmal and even brings the first half into question. If Michigan had led 45-6 at the half like the Buckeyes did then doing absolutely nothing in the second half wouldn't raise any red flags but they didn't, they only led 20-3. Why? It is fairly likely that either Rutgers just had a REALLY good or Michigan had a REALLY bad half and it doesn't mean much going forward but we don't know that yet.
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Michigan State reminds me of Kentucky in some ways, maybe they will meet in a bowl game.
Jerry Palm has them meeting in the Citrus Bowl. I'd like that. As a child of the 90s, playing an SEC team in a January 1 game is still the 2nd best thing to playing in the Rose Bowl, even if that's not really how it works anymore. Throw in the basketball aspect, and I think that's a bowl game I could get into.
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- Wisconsin - 7,4,3,3,2 I think the people dropping UW to very low rankings are overreacting and missing some context. Yes, the Badgers are 0-2 in the league and 1-3 overall but the three teams they lost to are ranked #4, #9, and #14 nationally and two of the three losses were competitive well into the second half. Wisconsin isn't a bad team they just aren't as good as we expected and they've played a brutal schedule.
- Michigan State - 8,7,9,9,11 Everybody (until me) has them #5 basically by default but I think we are overrating them. The Spartans are undefeated but their best wins are over a sub.500 Miami team and a Nebraska team that lost to Illinois. Maybe they are a decent team but I don't think we know yet and their next two games are RU and IU so I don't think we are going to know until they host Michigan the day before Halloween.
MSU might wind up being overrated, but I don't think it's by "default" now. Massey has 62 computers in his composite. MSU is #13. Wisconsin is #59.
To that point, the computers aren't even judging it as MSU vs. Wisconsin. MSU is #5, as most here have them, but it's not even though Wisconsin is #6. Wisconsin is #11. The computers, who if anything understand context, have Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, Purdue, and Minnesota all between MSU and Wisconsin
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Last week in parenthesis
- PENN STATE (1) - no point in changing, we'll learn something this week
- IOWA (2) - see above
- OHIO STATE (3) - defense seems to have finally woken up
- MICHIGAN (4) - offense's ability to finish drives was huge
- MICHIGAN STATE (5) - proving able to win whatever type of game is needed
- MARYLAND (6) - I mean, who are you going to move up?
- RUTGERS (7) - see above
- NEBRASKA (11) - after a couple of close losses to top 15 teams, finally put it together
- WISCONSIN (8) - I'm not sure who on this offense would start on a normal Wisconsin team
- INDIANA (9) - if Penix is out for any extended time, life is going to go from bad to worse
- MINNESOTA (12) - the only thing worse than losing to Bowling Green at home...
- PURDUE (10) - ...is losing at home to the team that lost to Bowling Green at home
- ILLINOIS (14) - how bad is Northwestern that the Illini actually moved up?
- NORTHWESTERN (13) - very, very bad
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Waiting for @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) 's vote because he usually votes right after I post results and right now I have a tie (tOSU and IA for 1/2) and several really close (MN/RU within one vote for 9/10, IU/PU within 2 votes for 11/12).
This is why I waited. @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) 's vote broke the 1/2 tie in favor of Iowa and swapped MN/RU. His is the highest vote for Rutgers and tied for the lowest for Minnesota so that completely rearranged my charts and whatnot.
Results are now posted with 15 voters through @ELA (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=55) .
The teams are grouped such that at this point we basically have tiers like we do in BB:
Tier 1:
- 2.00 Iowa
- 2.08 Ohio State
- 2.53 Penn State
- 3.27 Michigan
Tier 2:
Tier 3:
- 7.00 Nebraska
- 7.38 Wisconsin
- 7.69 Maryland
Tier 4:
- 8.92 Rutgers
- 9.08 Minnesota
Tier 5:
- 11.23 Indiana
- 11.54 Purdue
Tier 6:
- 13.08 Illinois
- 13.92 Northwestern
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MSU might wind up being overrated, but I don't think it's by "default" now. Massey has 62 computers in his composite. MSU is #13. Wisconsin is #59.
My "by default" comment was referring to the way the teams immediately behind the Spartans last week all eliminated themselves. In last week's rankings the Spartans were #5 and:
- #6 Wisconsin got spanked by Michigan
- #7 Maryland got spanked by Iowa
- #8 Rutgers got spanked by Ohio State
- #9 Indiana got spanked by Penn State
- #10 Purdue lost at home to a team that just lost at home to BGSU.
So who are MSU's contenders now? Well, last week's #11 Nebraska beat the snot out of Northwestern and moves up to #6 this week and they are followed by Wisconsin but note the difference a week makes. Last week MSU was #5 with an average ranking of 5.69 not very far ahead of #6 UW (6.08) and #7 Maryland (6.31). Now they have a humongous lead over #6 Nebraska (7.00), #7 Wisconsin (7.38), and #8 Maryland (7.69).
To that point, the computers aren't even judging it as MSU vs. Wisconsin. MSU is #5, as most here have them, but it's not even though Wisconsin is #6. Wisconsin is #11. The computers, who if anything understand context, have Maryland, Rutgers, Nebraska, Purdue, and Minnesota all between MSU and Wisconsin
In our rankings Nebraska is between MSU and UW with Maryland in a near-tie with the Badgers so similar to that.
That said, I just disagree. Wisconsin's loss to Notre Dame looks like a blowout based on the final score but that was a close game in which the Badgers had a fourth quarter lead and then they just collapsed and gave up 31 fourth quarter points to the Irish to make a close game into a blowout. The Badgers also had a fourth quarter lead on Penn State which is now ranked #4. Even the Michigan loss was reasonably competitive. Wisconsin never led by they were within a FG at the half and within two scores until almost midway through the fourth quarter.
I just don't see that as a team that is worse than Minnesota, Purdue, Nebraska, Rutgers, and Maryland . . . or MSU either. I'm all alone in that but we'll see.
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I thought that ELA would hold his ground and withhold his vote until Medina posted the results, but then Medina would continue to withhold the results until ELA posted his standings, leading to a week long stalemate.
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- #6 Wisconsin got spanked by Michigan
- #7 Maryland got spanked by Iowa
- #8 Rutgers got spanked by Ohio State
- #9 Indiana got spanked by Penn State
- #10 Purdue lost at home to a team that just lost at home to BGSU.
I just want to point out that all of these losses were WAY worse than generally expected. For example, in your 10/2 breakdown (https://www.cfb51.com/big-ten/ela-october-2-breakdown/) you predicted:
- That Wisconsin would lose by 8, they lost by 21
- That Rutgers would lose by 1, they lost by 39
- That Purdue would win by 10, they lost by 7
So Wisconsin, Rutgers, and Purdue did 13, 38, and 17 points worse than your projections. Understand, I'm not criticizing your projections at all. I thought your projections were perfectly reasonable based on what we knew last week but Wisconsin, Rutgers, and Purdue substantially underperformed relative to expectations.
The back side of this is that the teams that beat UW/RU/PU were the three teams ranked immediately ahead of #5 MSU in last weeks rankings:
- #4 Michigan beat UW more soundly than most expected.
- #3 Iowa beat Maryland more soundly than most expected.
- #2 tOSU beat Rutgers more soundly than most expected.
Thus, the Spartans are now all alone in the rankings. Anyone who was thinking last week that the Spartans were as good or better than M/IA/tOSU probably gave that up when they saw how well M/IA/tOSU performed. Similarly, anyone who was thinking last week that the Spartans weren't as good as UW/UMD/RU probably gave that up when they saw how poorly UW/UMD/RU performed. My "by default" comment simply refers to that. Last week's results pretty much eliminated any competition that MSU had for the #5 spot from above or below.
I don't see projections of yours for UMD/IA or IU/PSU but in discussion on here it seems that most of us expected closer games than we got.
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Composite computer rankings - 72 computers (last week in parentheses)
- Georgia (1)
- Alabama (2)
- IOWA (4)
- MICHIGAN (3)
- Cincinnati (11)
- PENN STATE (6)
- Oklahoma (8)
- OHIO STATE (13)
- Texas (14)
- Arkansas (9)
- Notre Dame (5)
- Oklahoma State (15)
- MICHIGAN STATE (16)
- Florida (12)
- Wake Forest (19)
- BYU (20)
- Kentucky (24)
- Ole Miss (10)
- Oregon (7)
- Pittsburgh (-)
- Coastal Carolina (-)
- Clemson (22)
- Arizona State (-)
- Auburn (25)
- SMU (-)
- 36. Maryland (27)
- 43. Rutgers (29)
- 44. Nebraska (64)
- 53. Purdue (37)
- 56. Minnesota (73)
- 58. Wisconsin (41)
- 65. Indiana (54)
- 81. Illinois (94)
- 93. Northwestern (76)