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Title: Akron (1-3) at #10 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on September 23, 2021, 01:15:28 PM
7:30 PM BTN

Buckeye QB Stroud is injured and out for the game except in an emergency says Ryan Day.  Last time I checked the Buckeyes were favored by like 50 points.

https://theathletic.com/news/ohio-state-qb-cj-stroud-will-be-used-only-in-emergency-situation-vs-akron/qaz3UQOvz1FZ (https://theathletic.com/news/ohio-state-qb-cj-stroud-will-be-used-only-in-emergency-situation-vs-akron/qaz3UQOvz1FZ)
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on September 23, 2021, 01:42:17 PM
I guess I better stay up to watch then
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 23, 2021, 02:15:54 PM
I suspect that Akron smells blood in the water. 

The Zips have the distinction of being the only team in the MAC that has ever defeated the Buckeyes. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 23, 2021, 02:43:17 PM
Yes actually Stroud has had a fairly serious shoulder injury since before the first game against Minnesota.

As you all know the back up quarterback is always the most popular guy in town during football season anyway and then add in these fickle raving lunatic Ohio State Buckeye fans and you can imagine that Day is the villain lately on message boards despite his damn near perfect record.

All of the Monday morning quarterbacks think they know better than the quarterback whisperer himself as to who should be starting at quarterback. 

From watching the spring game I’m going to guess that McCord gets the nod over Miller but I think they would both do fine. Probably get to see both of them play.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 23, 2021, 06:40:31 PM
Yes actually Stroud has had a fairly serious shoulder injury since before the first game against Minnesota.

As you all know the back up quarterback is always the most popular guy in town during football season anyway and then add in these fickle raving lunatic Ohio State Buckeye fans and you can imagine that Day is the villain lately on message boards despite his damn near perfect record.

All of the Monday morning quarterbacks think they know better than the quarterback whisperer himself as to who should be starting at quarterback. 

From watching the spring game I’m going to guess that McCord gets the nod over Miller but I think they would both do fine. Probably get to see both of them play.
Ain't that the truth. Stroud is actually good, and Buckeye fans seem to hate him. They should try some of the QB's that Michigan has had. Lol. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 23, 2021, 06:41:22 PM
7:30 PM BTN

Buckeye QB Stroud is injured and out for the game except in an emergency says Ryan Day.  Last time I checked the Buckeyes were favored by like 50 points.
Two things:

Why the hell is this a night game?

Why is that spread so high? Has Vegas actually seen Ohio State's defense this year?
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 23, 2021, 07:04:44 PM
Last time OSU was favored by 50+ was against Rutgers in 2019. They didn't cover. 

The time before that was against Florida A&M, also with a backup QB (Kenny G), and they won 76-0, with Smooth Jazz tossing 6 TDs, all in the first half. Then Freshman Cardale Jones played the entire 2nd half, without throwing a single forward pass. 

But it is all moot of course, as the spread for this game has now dropped below 50 at 49. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 23, 2021, 07:07:08 PM
Ain't that the truth. Stroud is actually good, and Buckeye fans seem to hate him. They should try some of the QB's that Michigan has had. Lol.
Yes they think a 19-year-old, who had never been on the football field of a crowded stadium. Can walk out in a conference road game, full crowd, and look like Justin fields. He’s already top 20 in QBR and top 10 in yards.

understandably, he’s had a few shaky moments where he sails the ball high but at other times he has illustrated a clear NFL arm and an assassin like accuracy. And that’s with an extremely sore shoulder in his throwing arm.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 23, 2021, 07:09:57 PM
Two things:

Why the hell is this a night game?

Why is that spread so high? Has Vegas actually seen Ohio State's defense this year?
No idea on the night game??

I wouldn’t judge too much about this game no matter what happens but I also wouldn’t pass To early judgment on their defense as a whole.
The corners are looking Really good and they are showing some new schemes as well as disguising some of their schemes, and shutting down the run.  They are young players are getting better by the week. I think will see more and I think they will be better.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on September 23, 2021, 11:08:27 PM
Normally wouldn't be much to see here, but as you can see the thread was created because of a new starting QB.  I think this will definitely give the team a shot in the arm, and actually think they'll play much better than they would have with an injured Stroud.  Hopefully he can heal up in time for Rutgers, but if not let's see what we have w/ these 2 backups and who might be able to start that one.  I haven't seen the starter officially named yet, but I assume McCord will start with Miller backing him up.  Day has already said Ewers is not ready to play yet.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2021, 03:57:16 AM
Day has already said Ewers is not ready to play yet.
Ewers should be in high school finishing up his senior season. Don't like when kids reclassify in basketball. Especially don't like it when they do that in football. Football players need time to develop. And they only do that by playing more football.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 24, 2021, 07:40:17 AM
Seems like the Buckeyes should find a way to get Ewers on the field this year.   After all he sacrificed his senior year in high school for them.  And you wouldn't want him to end up being LSU's next Heisman.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on September 24, 2021, 07:51:17 AM
Seems like the Buckeyes should find a way to get Ewers on the field this year.  After all he sacrificed his senior year in high school for them.  And you wouldn't want him to end up being LSU's next Heisman.
He sacrificed it for the NIL money.  Texas wouldn't let him collect while in HS there.  He showed up like a week or two before the first game.  I really doubt he'll get any PT this year.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2021, 07:55:58 AM
He might get a few snaps, no?  How many backups do they have available now?
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on September 24, 2021, 08:30:33 AM
Day said Ewers wasn't going to play, so McCord and Miller are the only guys they plan to play, though Stroud is available on an emergency basis.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on September 24, 2021, 08:36:46 AM
He might get a few snaps, no?  How many backups do they have available now?
Stroud is the starter, but the backups are 5* true freshman Kyle McCord and 4* redshirt freshman Jack Miller, so it's not like when Fields was here in 2019 and the only backups were walkons.  These other 2 guys have been in the program much longer (McCord since the spring and Miller got some PT last year) and are much more suited to play.  I think Ewers will be given a shot to win the job next year, but at this point, he will not get enough reps to realistically be ready to play this year.  He is the 4th string guy right now.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 24, 2021, 09:03:58 AM
He might get a few snaps, no?  How many backups do they have available now?
They have 3 dudes who could start at dozens of division 1 schools.  not including Ewers 

unfortunately- None of them have much game experience and need to be developed a little bit so whoever is first and or second will likely stick around and whoever isn’t will likely transfer at the end of this year or early next year.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 24, 2021, 09:20:27 AM
They have 3 dudes who could start at dozens of division 1 schools.  not including Ewers

unfortunately- None of them have much game experience and need to be developed a little bit so whoever is first and or second will likely stick around and whoever isn’t will likely transfer at the end of this year or early next year.
great problem to have.

Ewers is so ridiculously talented though, I'll be shocked if he doesn't get a crack at the job next year after redshirting and developing this year. Unless McCord steps in for Stroud and just goes ape shit or Stroud comes back healthy and just goes on a tear- my guess is Ewers will be eased into that job next year.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on September 24, 2021, 12:15:57 PM
The Zips have the distinction of being the only team in the MAC that has ever defeated the Buckeyes.
In the interest of full disclosure:

Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 24, 2021, 12:22:09 PM
In the interest of full disclosure:
  • Akron was NOT in the MAC at the time.  In fact the MAC hadn't been created yet and for that matter, neither had what became the B1G. 
  • Akron wasn't even called Akron at the time, they were Buchtel College. 
  • Akron's coach at the time was none other than John Heisman. 
  • It was 127 years ago, in 1894. 


I know, I was talking about teams currently in the Mac. In 1894 the OAC hadn't even been formed yet.

There are other Ohio teams with more recent wins vs OSU of course, including the Bearcats. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2021, 12:25:01 PM
QB recruiting is interesting, to me, teams want to stock the room, and if they do the obvious happens, and a Fields level player leaves when he's probably better than Fromm.

The Dawgs are pretty stocked as well and signed another for next year, I'm surprised more of these guys don't go to "Kansas State".
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Temp430 on September 27, 2021, 10:26:55 AM
Ohio State LB K'Vaughan Pope booted from team after sideline argument with coaches in the middle of the 2nd?  I would have liked to have see that.  Seems like the Buckeyes are a little thin at LB.
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on September 27, 2021, 10:30:05 AM
Ohio State LB K'Vaughan booted from team after sideline argument with coaches in the middle of the 2nd?  I would have liked to have see that.  Seems like the Buckeyes are a little thin at LB.
One of the weirdest things - I'm watching the game and also checking Twitter and the OSU reporters were only talking about him appearing to quit midgame. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 27, 2021, 10:43:01 AM
If I was a senior that couldn't even get on the field for a blowout vs Akron, I'd be pretty heated too. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Abba on September 27, 2021, 10:46:55 AM
If I was a senior that couldn't even get on the field for a blowout vs Akron, I'd be pretty heated too.
Agreed.  I think most everyone would've reacted the same way.  
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on September 27, 2021, 12:44:34 PM
If I was a senior that couldn't even get on the field for a blowout vs Akron, I'd be pretty heated too.
It was the second quarter!
Title: Re: Akron (1-2) at #10 Ohio State (2-1) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 27, 2021, 01:39:50 PM
From what I’ve been able to put together in bits and pieces, he was told he would be playing in this game.

He was to enter as part of a package of players and when they went to take the field to Teradja Mitchell waived him off. He lost his mind.

He went to leave and CJ Barnett, one of the Ohio state assistants, brought him back but then he got into it with the linebacker coach-Al Washington and really lost his mind.

He was then escorted off and proceeded to go on social media.

According to his high school coach who has tweeted about the incident, he biding his time for many years behind Borland Werner and Baron Browning and thought this was his year.  But a lot of the younger linebackers are getting as much or more playing time and so he was frustrated before the game even began.
Title: Re: Akron (1-3) at #10 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 27, 2021, 09:18:03 PM
Piecing it together, it sounds like maybe this game was his last chance to make a name for himself and earn a spot in the rotation. When he was waved off he misunderstood/overreacted. CJ Barnett talked him down to a low boil, but then Al Washington probably said something along the lines of "you're not going in at all today after pulling that stunt" and it triggered an absolute nuclear meltdown. 
Title: Re: Akron (1-3) at #10 Ohio State (1-0, 3-1) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 27, 2021, 09:43:11 PM
On a lighter note I am pretty sure that CJ Barnett was the subconscious inspiration for Urban's mispronunciation of JT Barrett as TJ Barnett, during the infamous "Braxton Miller is out for the season" press conference of 2014.