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Title: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 11:08:57 AM
Saturday, September 25

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Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 11:12:39 AM
A pretty good slate next weekend I think.

Florida 37  Tenn 10
Georgia 45  Vandy 9
Bama 48  SMU! 16

UK 27  USCe  17
Auburn 34  GSU  10
Arky 27  A&M 21  !!!!

Mizzou 27  BC 24
MSU 30  LSU 20

Arkansas looks pretty tough to me.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2021, 11:59:55 AM
Arkansas vs. A&M looks like the can't-miss for this week.  CBS thinks so too.

At least LSU/Clanga is at 11 so nobody will be up to see the air raid hit 500 yards on DBU again.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 01:02:01 PM
I have thought pretty highly of Arky since last year, not that they'll beat Bama, but that they have turned things into a positive direction.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: just1hog on September 21, 2021, 06:11:03 AM
Thanks CD, Coach Pittman has installed pride in the team and the fans. These hogs are playing their hearts out for him. TAMU's D line is going to be the real test, if the Hogs can run, that will be the difference for the win. GO HOGS! 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 21, 2021, 07:51:07 AM
During a game I will try and focus on the line play (rather than follow the ball) at least some of the time.  Arkansas has been doing well in that to date.  They may well upset the Dawgs.  Contrast this with say Tennessee who looks lost and confused and dazed.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 21, 2021, 05:27:52 PM
Can't figure out who I want to take between A&M and ARK.


A&M  24   ARK  20  (tentative, I reserve the right to flip-flop on this)


UGA  49   Vandy 6    blowout I'll probably watch anyway
                 

UF  45   UT  17      Can the Vols stay on the mat forever?  Maybe not, but they ain't getting up this week


USC  27   UK    17  I think the Gamecocks pull the W at home but don't look good in the process


LSU    35   Clanga 34      homer pick, but cowbells had trouble with some other tigers, and the cajun variety showed something nearing a pulse last week

Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 21, 2021, 05:29:10 PM
Why does formatting look nothing like my entry, and no matter how many ways I clean it up it still looks the same?
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 21, 2021, 06:18:37 PM
Good question.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 21, 2021, 06:45:43 PM
I blame badgerfan
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 21, 2021, 06:46:03 PM
I think A&M is still the better overall team, but their qb situation is dicey, and the game is at ARK.  If Texas is any indication, the Pigs aren't playing around in Fayettenam.  

I have no confidence in this game.  Don't know what the line is, but if I were a gambler I wouldn't touch this match.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 21, 2021, 06:59:01 PM
I think A&M is still the better overall team, but their qb situation is dicey, and the game is at ARK.  If Texas is any indication, the Pigs aren't playing around in Fayettenam. 

I have no confidence in this game.  Don't know what the line is, but if I were a gambler I wouldn't touch this match. 
I agree with almost everything you said, except...

...the game is a neutral site matchup at Jerryworld in Arlington, Texas.

Which I think more firmly tips the scales in A&M's favor.  This is a game the pigs really could have used, at home.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 21, 2021, 07:23:35 PM
All I know is that Florida is going to come out flat.  We should use our superior depth and separate late, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's very close at halftime.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 09:38:44 AM
We'll see.  If BHG is full and rocking, that's not an environment I see things going well for UT.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 22, 2021, 09:44:36 AM
The idea teams come out flat after a Big Win (or in this case close loss) has some merit but it doesn't happen all the time of course, so I wouldn't assert it as a certainty.

I'd be shocked if the Vols cover whatever the spread is, I looked it up, nearly 20 here.  I'd take Florida and give 20.  I had 37-10, the Vols might manage more points of course.  

 Money lineTennessee +750 (bet $100 to win $750) | Florida -1400 (bet $1,400 to win $100) · Against the spread (ATS): Tennessee +19.5, -105 (bet ...




Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 11:58:49 AM
I never played football.  Played my fair share of basketball and baseball though.  My experience was that in basketball coming out flat, or inspired, or anywhere on the spectrum was a real, almost tangible thing.  Not so much in baseball.  I wasn't a pitcher, so maybe sometimes they are "flat" or not, I don't know.  I mainly played shortstop.  I was what I was from day to day, and it seemed to be the same for the other positions.  Batting....we had good days where it felt like we really had a bead on the pitchers, and other days where we couldn't hit a soccer ball if it'd have come across the plate, but it never felt like emotion....being "up for it" or not.  Just good days and bad days. 

I wonder how it is with football.  The teams certainly look like emotion or the flatness thereof is a thing.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 22, 2021, 12:07:54 PM
We played HS basketball Friday and then Saturday, and I felt flat on the latter.  My legs were tired, I played every minute of every game except when I was injured.

In baseball, I did pitch, and my arm needed recovery time.  I recall some All Star games when I was a kid and was used in successive days and the second day was not as sharp.  We had some kind of innings limit back then, ten innings in two days or somesuch.

But this is physical, being "flat" after a big win or notable loss is more mental.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 12:26:34 PM
Skip Bertman, for all the good he did for LSU baseball, probably prematurely ended the careers of a lot of good pitchers with potential.  He really didn't look out for their arms. 

I remember Ben McDonald when I was a kid, Bertman would send him out as the Friday starter, have him in relief on Saturday, and start him again for a while on Sunday if he thought it necessary to win.  McDonald wasn't the only pitcher Bertman treated that way.  Skip really blew out some promising arms on his way to the history books.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 22, 2021, 12:48:34 PM
I didn't know it at the time, but I pitched the first game of our season my junior year.  It was cold and I was over throwing, I was supposed to be the stud pitcher that year.

The next day my arm was shot, I could not throw overhand at all, our idiot coach put me in left field, and I had to return the ball side armed, which still hurt.

Fifty years later, it's getting worse, and I learn I had a torn labrum.  So, since I pitch nowadays at fantasy camp, I get it fixed (which is an odd surgery).  I'm doing pretty well now, but my shoulder still has some deep pain and I can't throw like I did at 17.  If you ever watch a major league pitcher in slow motion, the arm angles are bizarre.

And unnatural.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 06:01:48 PM
Yeah, it looks like something is structurally wrong with their arm when they're throwing.  No wonder so many end up as Tommy John surgery candidates.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 06:17:51 PM
But a lot of the things athletes do with their bodies would seem unnatural to me.  These people aren't physically like me.

When I watch football on TV everything looks normal, because all I'm seeing is a bunch of guys in the same category.  And the TV angles diminish some of the height discrepancies, like say cornerbacks who are 5'11".  

I've had really good seats at a few LSU games, one Texas game, and a Vanderbilt game when Florida was the visiting team (2008, they were NCs that year).  It's always disconcerting when you get close enough to those guys to realize how big they really are and how fast they're actually moving.  Shaq is the only high-level athlete I ever met and it's not really surprising to feel dwarfed by him, being really tall is part of his thing, you expect it.  At 6'2" I'm often the tallest guy in the room, but most of the college football players I've been sort of up close to are clearly taller and significantly bigger than me.  

Back in 2013 and some of the 2014 season LSU started a MLB named DJ Welter who became a whipping post for LSU's defensive woes.  He played "smart" and did everything right, but he was a definite weak link because he wasn't physically what you expect from a team like LSU at MLB.  You could see how outclassed he was when linemen got out to block him or a physical tailback came right at him.  Poor guy was just smallish and slow compared to everyone else, and seemed to lack elite strength as well.  I saw him up close at a game that year and he looked like he would kill me on accident if he tackled me. 

Tony Parker looked like a midget playing for the Spurs, and he's 6'2" like me.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 22, 2021, 08:14:25 PM
Coming out flat involves a range of factors. 

Back when Carolina beat Bama, I guaranteed they'd lose their next game, even without knowing who it was against.  My friend looked it up and it was a bad Kentucky.  I still predicted they'd lose and they did.

I'm predicting Florida will come out flat because I still don't think the Gators are THAT good.  Win or lose, when you have that kind of game vs that kind of opponent (#1 Bama) and IF you played over your head, you don't just regress to your mean, you crash land to it.

I could be wrong.  The good thing is we'll find out.  Maybe Richardson comes back, splits snaps, and puts up video game numbers again.  Maybe Mullen realizes this is a run-heavy version of his offense and they gobsmack the Vols with 400 yards rushing.  

I just smell the recipe of a flat game.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 22, 2021, 11:58:43 PM
I couldn't tell what changed in the game after the first quarter when it was 21-0.  I didn't notice any major adjustments by either team, but that doesn't mean anything.  I'm not good enough with X's and O's to look at coverages without a lot of pausing and thinking. 

I can't tell if Alabama lost their fire, shot themselves in the foot, or if Florida started doing something significantly different and better.  It didn't look like Florida changed that much.  Didn't look like Bama did either though.  Seemed like they just quit executing around the same time Florida started.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Gigem on September 23, 2021, 07:08:12 AM
Sometimes I think the battle is mostly mental with teams like Bama. They have the game won before the ball is hyped because the other team doesn’t believe in themselves. 

Florida was not playing well in the first quarter but they were hanging in there fighting. Once they tasted a sliver of success and realized the run game was working things started clicking. I would ave loved to see the game had they not spotted them a 3 TD lead. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Gigem on September 23, 2021, 07:12:46 AM
I admit I’m very worried about the Arkansas game. Our OL has not been good. They make a big deal about our starting QB Haynes King going down but our run game was non-existent because our OL couldn’t generate any push. 

We will need our D to hold Arkansas the same way they held CU because this will be a low scoring game. Hopefully they won’t be able to run the ball like they did against Tx. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 23, 2021, 09:09:37 AM
I admit I’m very worried about the Arkansas game. Our OL has not been good. They make a big deal about our starting QB Haynes King going down but our run game was non-existent because our OL couldn’t generate any push.

We will need our D to hold Arkansas the same way they held CU because this will be a low scoring game. Hopefully they won’t be able to run the ball like they did against Tx.

Texas didn't sell out to stop the run and dare the QB to win through the air.  I think the ags' defense will. 

It's strange to me that so many of these TAMU-UA games have been close, and yet the ags always find a way to win.  I suspect we'll see more of the same in JerryWorld on Saturday.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2021, 09:09:43 AM
I agree Florida MAY be flat for reasons stated, I just don't agree it's a certainty.

I'd worry about Arkansas a lot this year.  I think they are dangerous and "pretty good", probably a top 15 kind of team. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2021, 09:12:04 AM
I saw this from somewhere:

(https://i.imgur.com/lvRKQrN.png)

Arky could be a very good7-5 kind of team.  I don't now why Florida is so low.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 23, 2021, 10:02:45 AM
I saw this from somewhere:

(https://i.imgur.com/lvRKQrN.png)

Arky could be a very good7-5 kind of team.  I don't now why Florida is so low.

I felt like, before the season, that outside of Alabama there was a lot of parity in the west and that A&M, LSU, Auburn, Ole Miss, and Miss State, were all going to trade off some wins and losses and take each other down a few pegs.  I think that now, I'd add Arkansas to that mix.  They're going to get in some licks. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 23, 2021, 10:23:36 AM
Agree.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 23, 2021, 12:14:29 PM
Why does formatting look nothing like my entry, and no matter how many ways I clean it up it still looks the same?
because if i allow some characters to be presented in a certain sequence it can be used by people with nefarious intentions to inject code into the server which usually opens hatches and allows them full access to the server, and is something i'd wish to avoid as you can imagine.  I run everything through a filter which sanitizes the code.... a by-product of that is some formatting is lost due to the sequences of operators in that code.  I've hoped to have found a balance where the site is still functional at the cost of some user frustration.

the social media sites use their own code and packages to handle this... employing something like they use is possible, but, it would require a massive overhaul here which is something i don't currently have time for. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 23, 2021, 12:21:18 PM
because if i allow some characters to be presented in a certain sequence it can be used by people with nefarious intentions to inject code into the server which usually opens hatches and allows them full access to the server, and is something i'd wish to avoid as you can imagine.  I run everything through a filter which sanitizes the code.... a by-product of that is some formatting is lost due to the sequences of operators in that code.  I've hoped to have found a balance where the site is still functional at the cost of some user frustration.

the social media sites use their own code and packages to handle this... employing something like they use is possible, but, it would require a massive overhaul here which is something i don't currently have time for.
So basically, there's no explanation at all, to MDT's question?




;)

Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 23, 2021, 12:24:12 PM
Also, @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) , we haven't discussed how our UTs might finally get to play one another, sometime in the hopefully near future.  I've always wanted to schedule y'all for a home-and-home, so hopefully we'll get some games soon.

Hard to believe the last time the two programs played each other was 1968.

Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 23, 2021, 12:38:43 PM
the psychological part of the game is what interests me most.  

most people look at components and stats to validate quality.  that's obviously one way to do it and it works.  something it has to be reconciled against, if what i'm offering holds water, is the mindset.  

madden, who many attribute as a clown and one of the better color commentators only was in my opinion one of the most brilliant minds about this game.  he has a ton of one line nuggets that actually hold meaning... one of them was "emotion will carry you through the first quarter, and then reality sets in".  

i'm thinking there is truth to that, but i also think the most important aspect is missed and especially by fans- it is NOT missed by the better coaches, but fans who are centered on match ups miss it all the time- it is:

"you're NOT competing against your opponent nearly as much as you're competing against yourselves". 

in terms of 'roster'- "shallower" teams have their 11 man unit take the field- and if they're seasoned and well practiced, IF they play at the top of their game it will be apparent.  it DOES matter the quality, but not as much as the cohesion matters.  They encounter issues, however, when the chemistry of those original 11 is altered due to injury or attitude.  an aside, it's my opinion this attitude seeps into a program for good or bad, and impacts it in such a way staffs and regimes don't matter much.  this is the case with UT.  

Freakin' Saban has this command element that is more akin to a program manager than a coach... Spurrier or the man-child Kiffin are traditional coaches.  either approach works so long as the teams are prepared its my opinion, but, the 'suit up go to work' while 'demanding excellence' is more sustainable.  Chicken or the egg, I guess, but- Saban doesn't really have to 'pump' his team.  they just suit up and go to work.  All others in the SEC at least must ride this emotional charge WHICH IS UNSUSTAINABLE.  They're going to be sporadic from week to week.  

if this was war instead of football, i'd want the saban approach.  those are the professionals- your SF or SOF.  for a one-time conflict, though, a decently trained and highly charged group is just as deadly as the professionals... they just won't last as long as a rule.  and when it turns to battles instead of fight, the professionals win almost always. 

tennessee will have to play at the very top of their game and make no mistakes or mis-ques to hang with florida just idling along.  weirder things have happened, but this oughta be a 24-10 affair with UT making the late TD in trash time.  It's painful to acknowledge that.  if UF wasn't coming off of bama, it would likely be a 45-3 affair. 

if nothing else, UT has announced Milton will return- and all UF really needs to do is drop a safety back 20yds and set up for the pick on every play- likely making 3 or 4 before Milton gets caught, flat-footed (he's always flat footed in the pocket), and gets cleaned out putting the better QB in.... 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 23, 2021, 12:41:36 PM
Also, @Drew4UTk (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=1) , we haven't discussed how our UTs might finally get to play one another, sometime in the hopefully near future.  I've always wanted to schedule y'all for a home-and-home, so hopefully we'll get some games soon.

Hard to believe the last time the two programs played each other was 1968.


i'd sure like for both of those programs to be at the top of their game before they meet.  I've a good friend who is a diehard longhorn, and we've discussed this a lot over the years.  and we both decided one program catching the other in a down cycle (which is what i still hold out hope is the case with tennessee even 20 years later) would be anti-climatic and damn near shameful to watch. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 23, 2021, 03:35:57 PM
i'd sure like for both of those programs to be at the top of their game before they meet.  I've a good friend who is a diehard longhorn, and we've discussed this a lot over the years.  and we both decided one program catching the other in a down cycle (which is what i still hold out hope is the case with tennessee even 20 years later) would be anti-climatic and damn near shameful to watch.
true dat
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2021, 10:18:32 AM
A thing I noticed about Alabama, obviously, is the depth, and how often they can rotate especially on D.  I know other programs try and do this, UGA may be getting there, but it's a major advantage over an opponent with 11 solid guys on D and then a big dropoff.  (Duh)

I think this is one reason a "UK" can hang with a UGA type team for a half and a bit and then they fade.   Some of that is half time adjustments of course.

I'm not convinced Kirby is great at the latter.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 24, 2021, 12:27:18 PM
I'm changing my LSU/Clanga pick.  Looks like for the 2nd year in a row LSU will face Leach's air raid without Derek Stingley, who re-aggravated an old lingering injury this week.  He was never full strength last year, returning before fully healing up.  I have to wonder with him being draft eligible next February if he'll even be that interested in putting himself at further risk.  Certainly not before he's 100%, I wouldn't think, which may not come during this season from what I hear.  

LSU is about to lose the battle for 6th place in the west.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2021, 10:17:06 AM
Tennessee vs Florida, the past 16 seasons:
L-L-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L
.
Good luck, Vols.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 25, 2021, 11:50:20 AM
Tennessee vs Florida, the past 16 seasons:
L-L-L-L-W-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L
.
Good luck, Vols.
It's always fun beating your rivals, but when it's non-competitive, it takes a lot away from it.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: EastAthens on September 25, 2021, 04:09:04 PM
These are not SEC stats, this is just sad.


[th]Matchup[/th]
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[th](https://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/teamlogos/ncaa/500/238.png&h=100&w=100)[/th]
1st Downs284
3rd down efficiency6-142-13
4th down efficiency0-10-1
Total Yards53277
Passing29124
Comp-Att21-285-18
Yards per pass10.41.3
Interceptions thrown12
Rushing24153

Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 25, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
Still alive for 6th place in the west, bay-beee!!  :72:
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 25, 2021, 05:33:08 PM
Tennessee vs Florida, the past 16 seasons:
L-L-L-L-L-L-L-O-L-L-L-L-L-L-L-L
.
Good luck, Vols.

fify
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: just1hog on September 25, 2021, 07:51:25 PM
Good game TAMU! Ya'll played with heart and grit and almost took it back in the 2nd half. Spiller is rare talent and scares me every time he gets the ball. 

Game ball goes to KJ "gutcheck" Jefferson, but player of the game is Tre Williams, he won that game for the Hogs flat out.

Next up, UGA.... gah.... :cool2:
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2021, 07:55:06 PM
Good win for the Hogs!
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Gigem on September 25, 2021, 08:51:54 PM
Yep, I expected some outcome similar to this. I was hoping maybe the defense could get a few TO and maybe even score. The offense is just plain bad. 
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 25, 2021, 11:24:41 PM
Can't figure out who I want to take between A&M and ARK.


A&M  24  ARK  20  (tentative, I reserve the right to flip-flop on this) 


UGA  49  Vandy 6    
                 

UF  45  UT  17      


USC  27  UK    17  


LSU    35  Clanga 34      

Not too bad.  Never had a read on ark/aTm but I got the pigs' score right.  Whiffed on usc/uk.  My original thought on lsu/msu was correct, I should learn my first hunches have usually been better and it doesn't generally work out when I switch something.  Got the ut and vandy beatings sorta close. 

Ark @ uga next week, I assume that will be the cbs 2:30 game.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 26, 2021, 02:00:35 PM
Nope, CBS has selected Ole Miss @ Alabama, which I guess could be good too. 

I'm still more interested in seeing how the pigs fare between the hedges.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Gigem on September 28, 2021, 10:39:59 AM
Nope, CBS has selected Ole Miss @ Alabama, which I guess could be good too. 

I'm still more interested in seeing how the pigs fare between the hedges. 
I think UGa will roll.  Pig is good in the trenches, but I'm not super impressed with their offense in general.  They hit us on a couple of long plays, which shouldn't have happened, but I'm not expecting they can do that vs UGa.  

It may be another 14-10 type of game but I'm seeing 34-14 type ending.  If Pig pulls this out they will be a legit West contender for the first time since Mr. Motorcycle man was there.  
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Thumper on September 28, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
With aTm's loss, OU now owns the longest win streak in the country at 12 games.  They were tied with aTm at 11.  Just wanted to put that out there somewhere because I don't think they'll own that streak much longer.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 28, 2021, 01:42:35 PM
It is weird to me that two top ten teams play at noon ...
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: utee94 on September 28, 2021, 05:29:01 PM
It is weird to me that two top ten teams play at noon ...
I guess it feels pretty normal to me.  Texas and OU have kicked off at 11 AM Central several times, when both were ranked in the Top 10.  I feel like Michigan and Ohio State have, as well.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: Cincydawg on September 29, 2021, 05:41:43 AM
UM-OSU is always at noon, which also is odd to me.  Usually, some top ten SEC matchup will be on CBS at 3:30, I realize they have Bama-OM.

I find it unusual, very, hereabouts.  I don't mind either way, I'd just as soon get it done.  If the Dawgs lose I'll probably go run or something and pretend it doesn't matter anyway.
Title: Re: Week the Fourth
Post by: just1hog on September 29, 2021, 05:47:48 AM
I think UGa will roll.  Pig is good in the trenches, but I'm not super impressed with their offense in general.  They hit us on a couple of long plays, which shouldn't have happened, but I'm not expecting they can do that vs UGa. 

It may be another 14-10 type of game but I'm seeing 34-14 type ending.  If Pig pulls this out they will be a legit West contender for the first time since Mr. Motorcycle man was there. 
Not Pigs, Hogs! Pigs are cute little things you make bacon from, Hogs are half a ton of pissed off that eats your leg if you don't run fast enuff :57:

But I can't argue with the rest of your post, UGA @ home? I just wanna get out of there with no major injuries.