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Title: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on September 20, 2021, 08:16:55 AM
The game this Saturday is at Soldier Field in Chicago at Noon on Fox.  The Irish have looked good so far against some not so great teams.  The Badgers have a close loss to Penn State at home in the season opener. That Penn State game is a great argument for not scheduling conference games for the season opener.  A bye last week end should help the Badgers stick it to the Irish.

On Wisconsin!
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 08:22:11 AM
I'm not sure ND has looked "good" at all.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2021, 08:40:47 AM
I'm not sure ND has looked "good" at all.
yeah, this. They really struggled with awful FSU & Toledo teams. Purdue hung tough with them most of that game and little bit of home cooking helped ND pull away in that one. 

I've got Wisconsin in this one.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: Abba on September 20, 2021, 09:00:46 AM
Time for Graham Mertz to have a good game.  Doesn't have to be spectacular, even a game manager type of performance with 0 turnovers should be enough for the Badgers to win this one.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: MarqHusker on September 20, 2021, 09:06:09 AM
Bye?
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2021, 09:16:56 AM
I have not seen enough out of the UW offense to give me confidence here. The defense should keep them in this game, but there is a big X factor too.

Jack Coan.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: Temp430 on September 20, 2021, 09:48:04 AM
Line is Wisconsin -5.5 at this time
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: Mdot21 on September 20, 2021, 10:17:31 AM
Line is Wisconsin -5.5 at this time
seems about right. I could see this being a 21-17 type game. Wisconsin.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1)
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2021, 10:35:35 AM
Line is Wisconsin -5.5 at this time
I'll take the under.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2021, 11:16:51 AM
So Gameday is going to Chicago. So is Big Noon.

Cage match?
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 11:18:41 AM
Is there some reason for a two game series to be played on neutral fields?

Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2021, 11:23:47 AM
Is there some reason for a two game series to be played on neutral fields?


ND didn't want to play in Madison.
Title: Re: #12 Notre Dame (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin (1-1, 0-1) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 20, 2021, 11:29:35 AM
Silly, to me, they did play in Athens of course.  Part of CFB is the venue obviously.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: MaximumSam on September 20, 2021, 12:20:02 PM
They had a two game set in Soldier Field and Lambeau. Lambeau is named after a former Irish player, so some admin somewhere thought that would be a great idea. The Lambeau game got moved to 2026 because of COVID. I hate neutral site games and I wish they would get shot into the sun. 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on September 20, 2021, 12:34:19 PM
Is this one of those shamrock series?   

Asu v ND in Jerry world.....etc.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 21, 2021, 01:04:57 PM
I didn't know until now, but yeah.

(https://i.imgur.com/yG8PhyH.png)
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2021, 01:29:17 PM
I didn't know until now, but yeah.

(https://i.imgur.com/yG8PhyH.png)
File those under, "if we are going to do this, then these are fine"
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Honestbuckeye on September 21, 2021, 01:32:09 PM
File those under, "if we are going to do this, then these are fine"
😂😂
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 21, 2021, 02:01:23 PM
File those under, "if we are going to do this, then these are fine"
Yeah. I'm not big on alternates, but this is not too far astray. 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: utee94 on September 21, 2021, 02:03:06 PM
They look pretty good, for what they are.  

Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 21, 2021, 02:05:02 PM
That helmet decal is just awful. 

Stick with the alternates that throw it back to where the W was on the front. 


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rcoAAOSwxCVgxoy2/s-l300.jpg)
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 21, 2021, 02:09:05 PM
I assumed the decal was to remind Mertz which direction the offense was supposed to move?
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 21, 2021, 02:19:20 PM
That helmet decal is just awful.

Stick with the alternates that throw it back to where the W was on the front.


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rcoAAOSwxCVgxoy2/s-l300.jpg)
"FORWARD" is the state motto. State flag says so.


(https://i.imgur.com/6UbX9f4.png)
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on September 21, 2021, 05:42:07 PM
Subject to change by torch bearing folks in Madison.    They already got the statue down.

Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 21, 2021, 06:26:39 PM
forward???

Shamrocks???
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 22, 2021, 08:06:02 AM
Subject to change by torch bearing folks in Madison.    They already got the statue down.


Correct. Madison is... 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 22, 2021, 12:35:52 PM
I'm OK with single neutral site games because they facilitate scheduling, but a series of two?  Seems very odd to me.  Playing on campus is much more entertaining in my view.

Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: bayareabadger on September 23, 2021, 07:38:39 AM
I'm OK with single neutral site games because they facilitate scheduling, but a series of two?  Seems very odd to me.  Playing on campus is much more entertaining in my view.


See, but NFL stadium! That’s why the Outback Bowl is bigger than the Rose Bowl. 

(On campus is fun, and the Chicago Bears stadium, meh. Might as well put the big 10 tournament at the United Center every year)
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 23, 2021, 01:37:27 PM
You really don't want to be in Chicago anymore. I wish I wasn't right now. Cannot feel safe here.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Geolion91 on September 23, 2021, 01:50:21 PM
ND didn't want to play in Madison.
I believe this

Definitely prefer on-campus games, the atmosphere gets lost playing in a neutral site, NFL stadium.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Mdot21 on September 23, 2021, 06:44:04 PM
You really don't want to be in Chicago anymore. I wish I wasn't right now. Cannot feel safe here.
more children have died from gunshots in Chicago just in the first 9 months of this year than children have died in the entire US of COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic a year and a half ago.

Hide yo kids. Chicago more dangerous than covid.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2021, 01:05:21 AM
more children have died from gunshots in Chicago just in the first 9 months of this year than children have died in the entire US of COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic a year and a half ago.

Hide yo kids. Chicago more dangerous than covid.
Chicago needs to get this figured out; it has been going on for years. It is like the 1930s all over again. I have not felt unsafe in Chicago but safety depends largely where you are at and at what time. D.C., Miami, and other places were murder capitals too, and there were corrections.

Right now, Delaware County, Iowa, where I am, has had more killings and shootings than you could imagine for a rural county. Some of you will probably know Todd Mullis was convicted in the corn rake murder. Despite the opening account on the video in the link that follows, not everyone knew Amy Mullis -- I didn't know her.

We had another farmer who shot his girlfriend who was breaking off the relationship a few years ago, he complained to her she was taking too long to die, and allowed her request to make a phone call to say goodbye to a family member. She received help but her lower limbs were paralyzed, as there was a severe spinal injury.

Several months ago we had another killing in a small town in our county. I know there have been more killings the past few years but they are not occurring to me right now. It is odd this is going on in a rural county.

About 20 years ago there was a murder-suicide of a young couple. and before that the last murder was circa 1976. There have been several the past 10-years. We are not much different than Chicago; I don't understand it.

A farmer's wife is found impaled on a corn rake — was it a horrible accident or murder? - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/amy-mullis-murder-iowa-farmer-corn-rake/)
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Hawkinole on September 24, 2021, 01:10:44 AM
All that said, I spoke to one of my best buddies today while he was en route to Chicago to see a Cubs game Friday, and the Wisconsin-ND game Saturday. 
He is a Notre Dame alumnus.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Cincydawg on September 24, 2021, 09:26:08 AM
GaTech is playing UNC in MB stadium tomorrow.

I'm not sure why.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 24, 2021, 10:28:54 AM
Isn't there a Wisconsin poster that is also a huge Notre Dame fan? 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 24, 2021, 10:42:48 AM
SFBadger. His wife is an ND alum.
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: ELA on September 24, 2021, 04:58:21 PM

GAME OF THE WEEK
#12 Notre Dame Fighting Irish (3-0) vs. #18 Wisconsin Badgers (0-1, 1-1)
NOON - Chicago, IL - FOX
As much as I hate neutral site college football games, this one actually makes some sense, and could be fun.  Chicago is sort of the epicenter of Big Ten fandom, Notre Dame has a heavy alumni/fan base there as well.  Soldier Field has more personality than the run of southern domes that host the Labor Day weekend games.  So, I'd rather this be in South Bend or Madison, but if we've got to this, it could be worse.  Notre Dame is undefeated, but in a manner that raises more questions than it answers.  They needed overtime to beat a Florida State team that might go 3-9.  Nearly lost their "streaming" game against Toledo.  And finally looked ok last week, but far from dominant, in beating Purdue by two scores.  But they actually have a quarterback who Wisconsin should probably be envious of.  Jack Coan has been terrific, and Brian Kelly's trust in him has grown each week.  And the Irish, who were full of question marks at receiver, with the only sure thing being tight end, has much more of a downfield passing game than anybody expected.  But they haven't faced a defense like Wisconsin, who is #2 in the nation in total defense.  The question is the Wisconsin offense.  Yes, it looked much better against Eastern Michigan.  That offense is always going to be low variance, and whenever the Badgers face a team with a significant talent disadvantage, they maul them into the ground.  The great Wisconsin teams are the years where they are also able to impose their will on teams with even to better talent (or they have Russell Wilson).  Week One still has me worried about whether this is one of those years or not.  Graham Mertz is a blue chip recruit, who had an amazing debut.  But he was pretty dismal after that, and those hoping it was just a post COVID blip, the results against Penn State were not inspiring.  He struggles facing pressure, something Wisconsin quarterbacks rarely have, due to an NFL offensive line, and a running game that makes for a killer play action attack.  I have not seen Mertz look comfortable at all in the play action game, and if the Irish keep hitting on long plays, that should be enough.  Even if it's all boom or bust.
NOTRE DAME 24, WISCONSIN 23



Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: MrNubbz on September 24, 2021, 05:29:22 PM
Miss Noonan,miss
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: MarqHusker on September 24, 2021, 06:31:15 PM
I'm not so sure Coan was very good vs Purdue.  Most of his yards were YAC and he was not very accurate  
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 24, 2021, 07:11:55 PM
Yac isn't a bad thing. Means he's going through his reads until he finds someone who's wide open. 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: FearlessF on September 24, 2021, 07:14:45 PM
or throwing screens
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 25, 2021, 11:25:02 AM
Okay, still finding guys with open running lanes. 

You don't need to throw it on a rope 40 yards into tight windows in order to be a good QB at the collegiate level. 

You just need to have a knack at getting the ball to the right guy at the right time. 
Title: Re: #18 Wisconsin (0-1, 1-1) vs. #12 Notre Dame (3-0) Game Week
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2021, 11:26:44 AM
Obviously Coan knows the defense he is facing today. Still, I think the Badgers can bring the pressure.

ND starting NT is out with concussion stuff, which could help the UW running game.
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 25, 2021, 04:07:17 PM
Wisconsin:

Championship defense. 

No offense. 

Putrid "special" teams.

The OL is terrible. The QB shouldn't be.

At a minimum, the OL coach and ST coaches need to roll on the bus ride home.

Unfortunately, they are PC's best buddies. So, maybe PC makes a move, or not. If he doesn't, the new AD should probably consider make one.

Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2021, 04:20:03 PM
The Noles are down 3 scores after the 1st quarter and are well on their way to an 0-4 start to their season.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 25, 2021, 05:12:26 PM
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/13687970.jpg)
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on September 25, 2021, 05:15:39 PM
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: Temp430 on September 26, 2021, 06:56:51 AM
The game got out of hand at the end and was closer IMO than the score indicates.  My takeaways:

1. Wisconsin QB Mertz is inconsistent.  A common issue with underclassmen.
2. Wisconsin’s defense is good.  Their DL is great.
3.  Michigan has no chance next Saturday unless they figure out how to do something other than run between the tackles.
4. ACC refs suck.
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: MrNubbz on September 26, 2021, 07:15:27 AM
Agree it was close then 'BAM' - lightning in a bottle.UW from the little I saw(not remember) bumbled a few opportunities.ND made their luck and benefitted from a few calls
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 26, 2021, 08:44:31 AM
The game got out of hand at the end and was closer IMO than the score indicates.  My takeaways:

1. Wisconsin QB Mertz is inconsistent.  A common issue with underclassmen.
2. Wisconsin’s defense is good.  Their DL is great.
3.  Michigan has no chance next Saturday unless they figure out how to do something other than run between the tackles.
4. ACC refs suck.
All of that is true, except #3. The game is already over.
Title: Re: NR Wisconsin (0-1, 1-2) vs. #12 Notre Dame (4-0) Post Game
Post by: Mdot21 on September 26, 2021, 01:36:31 PM
All of that is true, except #3. The game is already over.
Not sure I buy that. Wisconsin favored by Vegas to win by 4 pts. It's a home game for Wisconsin and they are coming off a bad loss. Doubt they'll play like crap two weeks in a row on ST's and offense.

Wisconsin D is still elite. And Michigan has literal morons running it's offense. They will run into the teeth of Wisconsin's elite front 7 all game long and not even try anything else. Which will play right into Wisconsin's hands and keep the game close. 

I don't like Michigan's chances in this one. IF Mertz is still the starting QB next week though and he goes full meltdown turnover machine mode- then Michigan's chances increase drastically. But I don't see how they'll be able to start Mertz and I'm guessing that Wisconsin does better job taking care of the ball and playing ST's next week at home.