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Title: UT Football
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on September 11, 2021, 05:18:16 PM
I really can’t watch Tennessee football anymore.

It’s just TOO frustrating and depressing.

We have developed a tradition of mediocrity.  And of having the most bizarre, upside down turn of events possible.  Or even imaginable.  Routinely.  And injuries, injuries, injuries.

I don’t understand it.  How long does this curse last?

The field goal return was the last straw.  Joy, celebration — wait; flag.  Great.

Okay.  No TD.  We’ll take it 10 yards from the spot of the foul. Damn.

What?  Off-setting penalties?  How do you block in the back, when the other team has the ball?

Replay the down?  So they get the ball back, AFTER the change of possession?  Because THEY effed up?  Punt.  Downed at the one.

So freakin’ typical.

A 100-yd. (125 or150, really, counting the punt), 6-point, change of possession penalty.

The harshest in football history.

It’s right up there with being at the one-yard line against Bama.  And JG changes the play to a sneak.  Scoop and score for them.

Or Pig Howard losing possession in mid-air, two inches from the goal line, in OT against UGA.  Ball rolls through the end zone, out of bounds.

UGA ball.  At the UT 25.

Two inches.  Loss of possession, and 75 yards of real estate.

Unbelievable.

I cannot imagine a game this year that I will be interested in watching.

Sorry —that’s just the way it is.  I keep waiting for a change.  But there never is one.

When was the last time anything positive happened with UT football?  The comeback win against mighty Indiana?  A year and a half ago?

Whee.

At this point, I can’t imagine seeing a full upper deck at Neyland again.  Not in the foreseeable future (and who knows how long that future is?).  My advice is to go with chair back seats throughout the stadium.  Bring attendance down to a manageable 80K or so.

End of rant. 

Just getting it off my chest.

  


Title: I'm sensing a pattern...
Post by: fuzzynavol on September 11, 2021, 05:31:09 PM
Much the same way you have always shunned science when you didn't like its results.  

Too bad there aren't websites you can link that site an alternate outcomes for the games.  www.maketennesseegreatagain.com.  
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: DunkingDan on September 11, 2021, 05:31:31 PM
I really can’t watch Tennessee football anymore.

It’s just TOO frustrating and depressing.


 
Here comes Cincy Fuzz in 5...4....3
Title: Re: I'm sensing a pattern...
Post by: DunkingDan on September 11, 2021, 05:33:00 PM
I can't respond in context and I am going to ignore the many things I ignore in science (example - when life begins) just so I can show my ass 
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Title: Re: I'm sensing a pattern...
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on September 11, 2021, 05:39:41 PM
Much the same way you have always shunned science when you didn't like its results. 

Too bad there aren't websites you can link that site an alternate outcomes for the games.  www.maketennesseegreatagain.com. 
You’re a peculiar little fellow, aren’t ya?

Don’t you have some reading to do?

You know about as much about science — or anything else — as you do theology.  Which is “ozro — and that’s lower than a zero” (according to my Jr. High football coach).

Now tell us how the God of the Bible made man to look like him again…?

(Where’s that “bwahahahah” emoji?)


Title: Re: I'm sensing a pattern...
Post by: DunkingDan on September 11, 2021, 05:43:45 PM
You’re a peculiar little fellow, aren’t ya?

Don’t you have some reading to do?

You know about as much about science — or anything else — as you do theology.  Which is “ozro — and that’s lower than a zero” (according to my Jr. High football coach).

Now tell us how the God of the Bible made man to look like him again…?

(Where’s that “bwahahahah” emoji?)
 

:043:Does that work?

Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: harvestalvol on September 11, 2021, 06:35:34 PM
I really can’t watch Tennessee football anymore.

It’s just TOO frustrating and depressing.

We have developed a tradition of mediocrity.  And of having the most bizarre, upside down turn of events possible.  Or even imaginable.  Routinely.  And injuries, injuries, injuries.

I don’t understand it.  How long does this curse last?

The field goal return was the last straw.  Joy, celebration — wait; flag.  Great.

Okay.  No TD.  We’ll take it 10 yards from the spot of the foul. Damn.

What?  Off-setting penalties?  How do you block in the back, when the other team has the ball?

Replay the down?  So they get the ball back, AFTER the change of possession?  Because THEY effed up?  Punt.  Downed at the one.

So freakin’ typical.

A 100-yd. (125 or150, really, counting the punt), 6-point, change of possession penalty.

The harshest in football history.

It’s right up there with being at the one-yard line against Bama.  And JG changes the play to a sneak.  Scoop and score for them.

Or Pig Howard losing possession in mid-air, two inches from the goal line, in OT against UGA.  Ball rolls through the end zone, out of bounds.

UGA ball.  At the UT 25.

Two inches.  Loss of possession, and 75 yards of real estate.

Unbelievable.

I cannot imagine a game this year that I will be interested in watching.

Sorry —that’s just the way it is.  I keep waiting for a change.  But there never is one.

When was the last time anything positive happened with UT football?  The comeback win against mighty Indiana?  A year and a half ago?

Whee.

At this point, I can’t imagine seeing a full upper deck at Neyland again.  Not in the foreseeable future (and who knows how long that future is?).  My advice is to go with chair back seats throughout the stadium.  Bring attendance down to a manageable 80K or so.

End of rant.

Just getting it off my chest.

 



I am with you OU. I listened to part of the game on the radio while working on the car. Losing is easier via radio. 

Certainly not much to cheer about is sooooo long. The last 3-4 coaches- each worse than his predecessor? TN seems to be snake-bitten. My dad told me that the sun didn't shine on the same dog's ass every day. Well seems Bama has gotten all the sun and TN none for as long as I can remember. 
Title: Re: I'm sensing a pattern...
Post by: HK_Vol on September 11, 2021, 06:48:56 PM
Much the same way you have always shunned science when you didn't like its results. 

Too bad there aren't websites you can link that site an alternate outcomes for the games.  www.maketennesseegreatagain.com. 
^^^^^^
What an a$$.
And hijacking the thread to boot....
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: HK_Vol on September 11, 2021, 06:55:08 PM
Went to the game - maybe 70,000 there. Traffic wasn't an issue.
There is talk that they are going to take the seats in rows 1-20 in sections U & T and make it a club section.  $4,600 per seat plus ticket price.  That's about $700 per seat per game.

I think that UT hasn't gone far enough.  Set a minimum price of $250 per seat anywhere in the stadium.  No need to have more than 4,000 to 5,000 attend the game.

I never bothered, but a friend bought a beer at the game last week.  He waited 48 minutes to buy a beer for $13.  This is good news.....for liquor stores.  What better incentive for people to buy half pints and airplane bottles and smuggle them into the game just like old times...  The entire experience is overpriced for an underwhelming product.

I think Heupel might get it turned around.  A few bone-headed plays and hard to win when you turn the ball over 3 times and they turn it over 0.  And what did we have - 130+ yards in penalties?

But UT's attitude is putting a lot of fans out of the ticket business.   Why bother?  Simply tailgate with friends in front of a big screen in the comfort of your own home at a fraction of the price with ticket prices at zero and beers at -90% off the price at the stadium.....with nicer toilets and better views of the game.

The UT Athletic Department has lost the plot.



Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: harvestalvol on September 11, 2021, 07:13:41 PM
My sister and brother-in-law offered their tickets yesterday, but we had a lots going on this weekend and didn't take them. 

The last game we attended was the GA game before COVID. Bad experience. GA fans bought up much of the stadium. Unfortunately we were sitting directly behind two very obnoxious Dawgs. The tickets came with a garage parking spot. We didn't get out of Knoxville until 1 AM. 
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: steve37777 on September 11, 2021, 07:40:59 PM
Watching overthrow Joe is like watching a horror show...He may be the worst college qb I have ever seen. 
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: HK_Vol on September 11, 2021, 07:43:50 PM
Joe needs to put more loft on his deep throws so that his receivers can run under his throws.  As of now, he might as well throw it into the bleachers immediately after the snap.
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: jgvol on September 11, 2021, 08:30:06 PM
My sister and brother-in-law offered their tickets yesterday, but we had a lots going on this weekend and didn't take them.

The last game we attended was the GA game before COVID. Bad experience. GA fans bought up much of the stadium. Unfortunately we were sitting directly behind two very obnoxious Dawgs. The tickets came with a garage parking spot. We didn't get out of Knoxville until 1 AM.

sounds fun. 🥴
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: roadvol on September 11, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
We have a coach that inherited an empty roster. We lost 30 scholarship players to the transfer portal and also inherited a team under NCAA doghouse.
We lose to an experienced team loaded with 5th ,6th and even a couple of 7th year seniors thats had the same coach and system for 4 years and we already have fair weather fans wanting to jump ship
After the first loss.
Some sound advice...cheer for Bama and you'll always be happy.........until they lose a game.

Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on September 11, 2021, 09:53:43 PM
We have a coach that inherited an empty roster. We lost 30 scholarship players to the transfer portal and also inherited a team under NCAA doghouse.
We lose to an experienced team loaded with 5th ,6th and even a couple of 7th year seniors thats had the same coach and system for 4 years and we already have fair weather fans wanting to jump ship
After the first loss.
Some sound advice...cheer for Bama and you'll always be happy.........until they lose a game.
I started this, so I guess I’ll respond.

You make good points.  In fact, they ARE the point.

How much longer are we going to stay in the sorry state you competently catalogued?

I’m not jumping ship on this TEAM.  I’m jumping ship on UT FOOTBALL.

It brings no pleasure any more.  It’s embarrassing.  More than that — it’s WEIRD.  Predictably so.  

I mean, that returned TD, that turned out to be a ball at the one… because of a penalty on THEM… just idiomatic.

I wasn’t going to watch today’s game.  But wound up turning it on late in the first.  We had the ball.  Apparently, we went from second and goal at the 2, to 4th and goal at the 30.  Eked through a 47-yd. FG.  

Hold ‘em to a FG.  Then Milton gets sacked, hurt, and fumbles in the their red zone.

To our credit, we kept holding them to FGs.  For while.  Or did they score a TD on that drive?  Can’t remember.  

Watched the rest of the half.  We did have the exciting pitch and catch TD.  But that FG return… oh, boy…

Anyway… didn’t watch the rest of the half.  Wasn’t interested.  And I’ll be SURE not to watch the game in the Swamp.  Ugh.

Look — if we ever break this string of mediocrity, I’ll be back.

But I’m a Tennessee fan.  I didn’t sign up to watch this endless parade of UK And Vandy teams from the 90s wearing orange unis…

  


Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: roadvol on September 11, 2021, 10:22:17 PM
The endless cycle will never end as long as the fan base gives up on a coach after one loss that was extremely competitive.
I would feel worse had we been steamrolled by a far superior team.
The errors made ( and there were many) are systamatic of an inexperienced team with a new coach and new system.
Thats the bad news.. the good news is that those errors are all correctable. 
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: harvestalvol on September 11, 2021, 10:28:49 PM
We have a coach that inherited an empty roster. We lost 30 scholarship players to the transfer portal and also inherited a team under NCAA doghouse.
We lose to an experienced team loaded with 5th ,6th and even a couple of 7th year seniors thats had the same coach and system for 4 years and we already have fair weather fans wanting to jump ship
After the first loss.
Some sound advice...cheer for Bama and you'll always be happy.........until they lose a game.


Always been a TN fan and always will. No jumping ship. The last many years, very frustrating and we all want better. 

Moved from TN to North AL in 1985. I recall that you are a recent resident. We had some fine years and a nice streak against the Bammers when it was really fun to be here. 

Looking forward to the turnaround and giving the AL fans crap again. I have lots saved up. 

Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: jgvol on September 11, 2021, 10:55:58 PM
Same old clown show.  

The keystone cops find new inventive ways to shoot themselves in the foot.  

The offensive system seems to produce.  That’s a positive.  

Seems the touted “QB guru” Huepel has Jeremy Pruitt disease, however, and that’s unfortunate.  
Starting the 3rd best QB on the roster.  Guess he didn’t see what all of American saw against Bowling Green?  Or what Michigan saw for a couple years before letting Milton walk.  Seems to be a disturbing new trend for UT coaches.  Identify the shittiest QB on the roster, and start him come hell or high water.  
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: Volitale on September 11, 2021, 11:00:06 PM
In regard to Overthrow Joe, I’m reminded of John Deere slogan from recent history. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9aWdn63bNh4
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: Volbrigade/oU on September 11, 2021, 11:16:27 PM

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The endless cycle will never end as long as the fan base gives up on a coach after one loss that was extremely competitive.


I’m certainly not advocating that.  

And I’m not “giving up” on anything.

Other than WATCHING.  I just can’t take any more crappy football.  

But I admire your steadfast loyalty.  It’s what UT football is all about.  I hope someday, SOON, we have a product on the field again that merits it.  Like harv, I’ll be there with full support.

But we’ve just been mired in mediocrity for too long.  I barely remember imposing UT teams.  2015, ’16, were not bad,  But then you have to go back to ’07…

Just too damn long.  Too much disappointment.  Too many crushed expectations.

Don’t get me wrong.  I’m Orange through and through.  I couldn’t change my allegiance to UT, any more than I could change my sexual preference.  

But I just don’t care much any more.  My “wife” has let herself go.  I got better things to do.  But if she loses a few pounds, and puts on a negligee — we’ll talk.  ( ^ ;    
  


Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: jgvol on September 11, 2021, 11:20:36 PM

I’m certainly not advocating that. 

And I’m not “giving up” on anything.

Other than WATCHING.  I just can’t take any more crappy football. 

But I admire your steadfast loyalty.  It’s what UT football is all about.  I hope someday, SOON, we have a product on the field again that merits it.  Like harv, I’ll be there with full support.

But we’ve just been mired in mediocrity for too long.  I barely remember imposing UT teams.  2015, ’16, were not bad,  But then you have to go back to ’07…

Just too damn long.  Too much disappointment.  Too many crushed expectations.

Don’t get me wrong.  I’m Orange through and through.  I couldn’t change my allegiance to UT, any more than I could change my sexual preference. 

But I just don’t care much any more.  My “wife” has let herself go.  I got better things to do.  But if she loses a few pounds, and puts on a negligee — we’ll talk.  ( ^ ;   
 




By the looks of the stands, and butts in seats, plenty have already come to your conclusion….there must be better ways to spend free time and money. 
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: ATexasVol on September 11, 2021, 11:30:34 PM
Much the same way you have always shunned science when you didn't like its results. 

Too bad there aren't websites you can link that site an alternate outcomes for the games.  www.maketennesseegreatagain.com. 

Fuzz, forgive me for being blunt, but you don't know shit about science.  I could say the same about math and economics.   Stick to your knitting, which is probably Journalism or English Lit.  
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: roadvol on September 12, 2021, 12:25:28 AM

I’m certainly not advocating that. 

And I’m not “giving up” on anything.

Other than WATCHING.  I just can’t take any more crappy football. 

But I admire your steadfast loyalty.  It’s what UT football is all about.  I hope someday, SOON, we have a product on the field again that merits it.  Like harv, I’ll be there with full support.

But we’ve just been mired in mediocrity for too long.  I barely remember imposing UT teams.  2015, ’16, were not bad,  But then you have to go back to ’07…

Just too damn long.  Too much disappointment.  Too many crushed expectations.

Don’t get me wrong.  I’m Orange through and through.  I couldn’t change my allegiance to UT, any more than I could change my sexual preference. 

But I just don’t care much any more.  My “wife” has let herself go.  I got better things to do.  But if she loses a few pounds, and puts on a negligee — we’ll talk.  ( ^ ;   
 



I haven't given up on the U.S. either and we haven't won a war since 45'...;)
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2021, 06:12:16 AM
We win every war we don't fight.
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: HK_Vol on September 12, 2021, 07:56:58 AM
By the looks of the stands, and butts in seats, plenty have already come to your conclusion….there must be better ways to spend free time and money.
This.  They made it a very uneconomic deal.  Put out a crappy product and then demand Super Bowl priced tickets.  Gotta get butts in seats to create excitement and develop a better homefield advantage.  At this point, I'd be happy with teams going 9-3 or perhaps a double-digit win season every once in a while.

But who wants to pay $500+ per tick per game for an experience like that for the day?
The highlights for me have been the pre-game tailgate before the game begins this year.


Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: Cincydawg on September 12, 2021, 08:59:35 AM
Are tickets really $500+?

Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: gymvol on September 12, 2021, 09:10:27 AM
I'm with you VB I can no longer watch the shit show being put on the field trying to call it football.

It isn't as much lack of talent with players as lack of talent at coaching. People keep making excuses for failures but the failure was a coach playing the wrong quarterbacks when already knowing they had issues.

But what coach in their right mind brings in then starts two second string quarterbacks ahead of what was already on the roster. 

Two quaterbacks who lost their starting jobs at their respective schools at Michigan and VT for the same shit we are now seeing at Tennessee over throws and turnovers.

Over Throw Joe has been doing the same thing all the way back in high school and he isn't going to improve or he would have already. Turn Over Hooker lost his starting job at VT for what we saw yesteday, fumbles and intereceptions.

Who gives a damn as to wheter a QB can run the ball we need one that can RUN the offense who can complete passes down field and not turn the ball over. 

I'm sick of this JG crap of thinking we need a running QB.  It hasn't produce a damn thing and what we have is just another Tater Head who don't know anymore than the last moron we had for head coach.
Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: gymvol on September 12, 2021, 09:17:49 AM
I haven't given up on the U.S. either and we haven't won a war since 45'...;)

Yeah and we want beat another ranked team or even a good team until we win the next world war either with what we keep getting for coaches at UT.

Hell we could have kept JG and had the same results with the same stats at QB.

Title: Re: UT Football
Post by: VolRage on September 12, 2021, 09:40:32 AM
I'm with you VB I can no longer watch the shit show being put on the field trying to call it football.

It isn't as much lack of talent with players as lack of talent at coaching. People keep making excuses for failures but the failure was a coach playing the wrong quarterbacks when already knowing they had issues.

But what coach in their right mind brings in then starts two second string quarterbacks ahead of what was already on the roster.

Two quaterbacks who lost their starting jobs at their respective schools at Michigan and VT for the same shit we are now seeing at Tennessee over throws and turnovers.

Over Throw Joe has been doing the same thing all the way back in high school and he isn't going to improve or he would have already. Turn Over Hooker lost his starting job at VT for what we saw yesteday, fumbles and intereceptions.

Who gives a damn as to wheter a QB can run the ball we need one that can RUN the offense who can complete passes down field and not turn the ball over.

I'm sick of this JG crap of thinking we need a running QB.  It hasn't produce a damn thing and what we have is just another Tater Head who don't know anymore than the last moron we had for head coach.
Yep, I get on volnation some and post my disdain for Milton and the sunshine pumpers can’t stand it. I have the same handle there that I do here. They claim I’m not a fan, give Milton time, Heupel sees something in him that we don’t, if I’m not a coach or ex player then i don’t know what I’m talking about and shouldn’t be saying anything bad about UT players, yada yada yada. Many of them get butt hurt real quick when facing reality.

The reality is Milton was given the QB job because he has a very strong arm. Supposedly he can throw it 80 yards with ease. But, that’s all he has. He can’t hit an open receiver, doesn’t have touch, his long ball is always overthrown, he can’t read the D, he’s too stagnant in the pocket, he doesn’t have the 3 second pocket clock running between his ears so he holds onto the ball too long, and he’s just not very smart. Hooker is better but what he can really do remains to be seen. My preference is to see Bailey in the game. I prefer drop back passers that can pick a D apart.