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The Power Five => SEC => Topic started by: bamajoe on September 02, 2021, 12:53:10 PM
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It is a little late for this but I am going to put it out. I think Clemson wins this game for three reasons. I think Clemson's defensive front is better than Georgia's offensive front, Georgia has too many injuries to its wr corp, and I think JT Daniels is a little overrated. He is a good but not great qb who cannot throw deep very well. i think he is similar to Jake Fromm who, btw, took them to a NCG. The loss of Pickens and Gilbert going bananas is too much. Clemson 35 Georgia 24.
I am for Georgia in this game.
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You have a pretty good summary there and I agree. Daniels is a solid QB, or was last year, and he's down a couple elite WR options.
I think we'll see early if UGA can run the ball decently, if they can't ....
Clemson should sell out to stop the run.
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I'm rooting fer the Dawgs.
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I'm rooting fer the Dawgs.
Me too.
SEC! SEC! SEC!
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UGA has been getting stymied on the run by some teams, Arkansas did it, Cincy did it, and a few others. It puzzles me, they supposedly have a good OL (had). I know teams stack the box, OK, but you should be able to run the ball on "Cincy" anyway, they couldn't, no holes. Basically if UGA can't pass efficiently they can be beat.
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I'm rooting for Clemson I don't like Kirby Smart "Ass" and wouldn't kill a snake trying to crawl out of Georgia or Alabama.
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Well those are certainly some strong feelings.
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Defensive game won on a pick six in effect.
Big game outcome though, Clemson could end up 11-1 looking at an Orange Bowl invite.
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Clemson OL and QB did not look good. Not sure they will even run the table in the ACC.
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The ACC is terrible, nothing new there. Of course they'll run the table.
Big congrats to the Bulldogs, well-earned win.
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With the UNC loss, this may knock the ACC out of the playoff conversation. It does for a while obviously. Maybe VT is good?
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I only missed the total points by 46 and picked the wrong winner. The funny thing is I was correct on all three of my predicates; Clemson's defensive line was better than Georgia's offensive line, the loss of Georgia's wrs did hurt the passing game, and JT Daniels could not throw down the field. I did not anticipate how good Georgia's defense was.
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You and me both, I thought you were spot on. I knew the Dawg D would be excellent, but really the Clemson O looked out of kilter.
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With the UNC loss, this may knock the ACC out of the playoff conversation. It does for a while obviously. Maybe VT is good?
I buy this^.
Im not sold Clemson is good this year. Well, as good as they have been. I'm sold UGA is. They're going to run through the SECe unless they pull a, well,, UGA... if smart can keep them focused and that ego in check they'll play for the NC.
Meanwhike, OU was exposed.
Too early to determine if UCLA is that good, if LSU is off, or if we'll see/hear a lot of UCLA this year. I'm going to guess based on excellent execution for week one they're pretty damn good, but not knowing which version of LSU that was makes it difficult to even type that.
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If/when the two 5 star WRs get back, Daniels might have more of a downfield passing game. Clemson was coming hard so they were pretty stuck with short quick strikes, and a few roll outs. There was enough of a running game to mostly control field position, White looked solid. The OL was maybe "OK" considering the DL talent they faced.
UAB up next, might well come out stale and puffed up and be close at the half.
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I am sold on clemsons d.. Venable is dang good at his craft.
From what I can yank out of a single exposure, I'm thinking uga is 90% bama good. That's within a margin to beat bama in the seccg..
Bama is a dang machine that some ass hole just flipped the switch in the "on" position yesterday. They remind me of a three phase 24" planer I saw blow up one day... it could eat material like it was cool, but there was a wire which looked like perhaps a barbed wire from way back when the tree was a sappling... buried well under the surface. That little snag as that bad ass machine skimmed material off the surface caused the helical blade to chunk, chunking itself in the path of the adjacent ones, and then the cascade.... destroyed that planer.
UGA can and perhaps will cause enough snag to destroy bama. I wouldn't vet that statement, but.... theyre nearing that good on D.
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A little early, aren't you,Drew? I assure you Georgia's offense will need to improve by an enormous amount to have any chance.
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Me too.
SEC! SEC! SEC!
Feel good doesn't it? :)
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Dabo was a damn fool to get into a slobberknocker with Kirby. The UGA offense could have taken more chances if Kirby thought UGA needed to but he knew what he had.
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Drew, I hate to agree with Joe on anything ;) but he's right. UGA may be able to fight Alabama on defense, but they're going to need to score points against a defense as quality as Clemson, or better. Because however good the Dawg's D is, Bama is still going to score some points.
Also, you need to stop looking at the helmet of LSU. They made virtually no improvements from last year. The OL is trash. The defense has communication issues. This is a different staff with the same problems. You tell me the constant. When's the last time you saw an LSU team that couldn't run the ball? For two years in a row? With this much talent? At least in the 90's we were outmatched from a personnel standpoint, even when coaching was good. This program can't even use that for an excuse.
I have COVID right now, and I'd much rather deal with that than watch this shitshow.
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Feel good doesn't it? :)
;)
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Drew, I hate to agree with Joe on anything ;) but he's right. UGA may be able to fight Alabama on defense, but they're going to need to score points against a defense as quality as Clemson, or better. Because however good the Dawg's D is, Bama is still going to score some points.
Also, you need to stop looking at the helmet of LSU. They made virtually no improvements from last year. The OL is trash. The defense has communication issues. This is a different staff with the same problems. You tell me the constant. When's the last time you saw an LSU team that couldn't run the ball? For two years in a row? With this much talent? At least in the 90's we were outmatched from a personnel standpoint, even when coaching was good. This program can't even use that for an excuse.
I have COVID right now, and I'd much rather deal with that than watch this shitshow.
It might turn out UCLA is really good. Might.
That Clemson was seriously hampered on O is kinda obvious, but still..... to be held like that? An "off" game for them, even against bama, would be "only" 21 points. Their new QB never looked comfortable..... but... there was a reason for that beyond his incapacity (or less capacity than "sunshine" from last season) and it was that dawg d. I won't say he's good, but I will say he's not as bad as he was made to look last night.
Speaking of being high on the dawgs is as much their schedule and competition as how good they are. Who will challenge then from the east other than Florida? So who "can" take them down reasonably speaking and not in an upset? I'll tell ya who, in my opinion and not who "can" but "will"... themselves. They soil the sheets every season... this one won't be different.
It's been said and I subscribe that "coaching/scheme places a player in position, and talent/skill makes the play"... leaning on that, I "believe" UMs defense not very good and which made Bama's O shine and showcase. UMs problem is both coaching AND talent. Bama suffers from neither. Clemson suffers from neither especially on D... UGA played conservatively and because that same play that cost Clemson the game could have happened to UGA... if Bama was playing Clemson it would have been similar imHo, and a 21-10ish affair. It's week one in a game that will either make or break your season, and the margin of win will be forgotten so long as it is a win.
Yall have known me long enough to know how I figure on these things... its not rocket science. Based on ONE game (which of course is reckless and fool hearted), I'd guess bama could score on Clemson between 21 and 31, and Clemson could score on bama 14-21. I think UGA would have held UM to 10-14 and would have scored 35-45. I'm seeing parody between the two teams insofar as the components we've witnessed.... what only a fool would suggest is UGA is as deep as bama, and in 14 more weeks that delta will be expounded- UGA holding the line and Bama just swapping cogs in and out. Yall can call me crazy but THAT is what I see as the difference right now.
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A lot of love for a team that scored 3 points on offense.
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I have COVID right now, and I'd much rather deal with that than watch this shitshow.
Sorry to hear that, man, hope the symptoms are mild and short lived.
The UGA offense should get some better when their WRs return. They threw a lot of passes to a freshman TE to compensate.
All we know now is their defense looks very good and their offense needs work.
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No doubt, hope you're feeling okay MDT.
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It might turn out UCLA is really good. Might.
It might turn out that their DL is pretty good, but nowhere as good as LSU made them look. Remember last year's opener when everybody thought maybe Clanga was pretty good because of how they thrashed LSU in the opener? Yeah....no. LSU just sucked.
I don't keep track of things like I used to, or watch like I used to, so I just looked up to see neither of LSU's new coordinators has ever been a coordinator before. That's not done at LSU in the modern era. Off the top of my head, I can't think of Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, Auburn, Texas, Ohio State, etc. who hires first time coordinators. I know in Baton Rouge the thinking is this is not the place to learn your craft, it's a job you get when you've put your time in elsewhere. This is why you don't ever see LSU promote position coaches to coordinators. You do it at a place like Bowling Green or a major school, if we can snag one from there, and then you come here. This was highly irregular, and O's ambition to find an up and comer nobody else knows about probably isn't going to pay off.
As for UGA....beats me. All I can say is their defense looked good against a QB I don't think is at the same level Clemson has had the last several years. Not yet anyway. Who will challenge them in the east? I never count out Florida, because as sure as I think the Dawgs can't lose, that's when UF finds a way to make them look like turd in the cocktail party and sticks it to them. Or the inexplicable South Carolina loss, which isn't unheard of and tends to open the door, record-wise, for a team like Florida. On the flip side, if they do meet Alabama in the CG, the Tide QB didn't look on par with the last couple of Gump QBs either. Not yet, anyway. So I don't know. Just basing on general trends, which is not necessarily meaningful, but it's all I got, UGA needs to make some offensive strides because I have serious doubts a defense can hold a clicking Alabama offense to 21 points.
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Sorry to hear that, man, hope the symptoms are mild and short lived.
Hasn't been all that bad. Whether that's because I vax'd some months ago or because it wouldn't have hit me too hard anyway, who knows. I'm just thankful it hasn't got us like many others in our area who have had a terrible time with the Delta variant.
Main thing I'm still dealing with at this point is fatigue. I don't feel bad anymore, but I can't do much without quickly wearing out. I pull the trash out to the curb and I need to lay down.
Mrs. DeTiger has lost her taste and smell. She's a major foodie, and this has been the end of the world for her. She loves flavors, loves to smell flowers and always has candles going....says she feels less than human. I can imagine that would be weird to lose two senses. But her Longhorns won and that brightens her mood some.
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Hasn't been all that bad. Whether that's because I vax'd some months ago or because it wouldn't have hit me too hard anyway, who knows. I'm just thankful it hasn't got us like many others in our area who have had a terrible time with the Delta variant.
Main thing I'm still dealing with at this point is fatigue. I don't feel bad anymore, but I can't do much without quickly wearing out. I pull the trash out to the curb and I need to lay down.
Mrs. DeTiger has lost her taste and smell. She's a major foodie, and this has been the end of the world for her. She loves flavors, loves to smell flowers and always has candles going....says she feels less than human. I can imagine that would be weird to lose two senses. But her Longhorns won and that brightens her mood some.
I think on their vey best day, Uga will need 28 to beat Bama. Bryce Young is small, (190 lbs) I am curious to see how he holds up to having 300 lb. Aggies and Tigers and Dawgs hitting him.
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Congratulations to Georgia fans, I must admit, I had my doubts, even though I bet on the Bulldogs. I have been telling people that this is the year Georgia is out of alibis, having passed Ohio State on the “Blue Chip Ratio”. Happily, the defense came through, in a big way.
The trouble with the game was, like the Penn State at Wisconsin game, the two defensive lines, were better than the offensive lines they were facing, so we can’t tell how good Clemson, Georgia, Penn State or Wisconsin’s offenses are, based on week one. What do you expect from Georgia’s offense going forward? Thanks.
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Congratulations to Georgia fans, I must admit, I had my doubts, even though I bet on the Bulldogs. I have been telling people that this is the year Georgia is out of alibis, having passed Ohio State on the “Blue Chip Ratio”. Happily, the defense came through, in a big way.
The trouble with the game was, like the Penn State at Wisconsin game, the two defensive lines, were better than the offensive lines they were facing, so we can’t tell how good Clemson, Georgia, Penn State or Wisconsin’s offenses are, based on week one. What do you expect from Georgia’s offense going forward? Thanks.
Georgia had 4 (4!!!) 5 star receivers sidelined for one reason or another against Clemson, (Pickens, Gilbert, Washington, Blaylock) and Kearis Jackson as well Hopefully we will get at least some of them back quickly and they can start stretching the d so the Dawgs can fully unleash the monster that is Zeus. Against Clemson we were reduced to a freshman tight end as our leading rec'r. That won't even look good against Vandy. UGA has, forever and ever amen, tons of potential on o. We will see against Kirby's great litmus test in Atlanta.
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The ACC is terrible, nothing new there. Of course they'll run the table.
Big congrats to the Bulldogs, well-earned win.
Of course they'll run the table?
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Of course they'll run the table?
So far so good. I didn't say they'd do it by wide margins. :)
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The Tech score shocked me quite a bit.
Tech is awful. I know there was some weather.
Who else in the ACC has much chance with Clemson? Nobody has much chance, but over 9 more games there could be an upset lurking.
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So far so good. I didn't say they'd do it by wide margins. :)
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Well there you have it.
The end of Clemson's run? Or just a bump in the road?
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An upset more than lurked for Clemmons. Wake Forest leads one ACC division, and BC the other.