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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: Thumper on August 30, 2021, 09:16:25 PM
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Football is here!
Sooners will be hosting Tulane since the hurricane made the game move. Sooners were a 27.5 favorite before the location change, I don't know what it is now. Tulane was 6-6 last year. They have some athletes at the skill position but this should not be difficult for the Sooners. Last time they met, Tulane jumped out to 14-7 lead before the Sooners scored 42 straight.
Longhorns have a tougher match against #23 Louisiana in Austin. Last I saw the Horns were 8.5 pt favorites. Looks like we'll be seeing Hudson Card starting at QB. How do you guys feel about that? I haven't seen him but Thompson looked real good in your bowl game last year so Card must be doing something right to take the job from him. New QB & coach for the Horns, I'm looking forward to it.
Some other interesting matchups are Stanford @ KSU and WVU @ Maryland.
Happy to see the season start.
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Hudson Card has good speed and a good arm but what remains to be seen is just how well does he read the defense
I just hope we dont embarrass ourselves
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I'm surprised at that line, I suspect we're seeing Helmititis at work here.
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I'm surprised at that line, I suspect we're seeing Helmititis at work here.
The line for the Texas game? Surprises me too. I'm certainly worried about that game. The Horns have plenty of talent, but a new coach and breaking in a new QB for the first time in 4 years, lots of other questions.
OU will roll against their pastry.
WVU should beat Maryland pretty handily, but then again, Texas should also have done so. Twice.
KSU-Stanford... hmmm, not sure on that one.
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the Terps have a hotshot QB
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Right now, and Horn fan with any sense is nervous.
If I had to draw up a coaching staff for Texas, this would be the one I'd draw up, and I didn't even know who most of these people were before Sark convinced them to work with him. They're the best in the business.
I'm not wanting to insult Sam, but the last half of the Alamo Bowl really showed how much of our offense he left on the table. Passing windows are really tight. He didn't want to try those throws (and I'm glad he didn't). Casey Thompson didn't mind trying them, and dropped 4 TDs in one half of football.
Steve Sarkisian, the guy who made Mac Jones the #14 pick in the NFL draft, thinks Hudson Card is better than that.
Rather than try to calculate how many points it'll take to win, Sark believes that any time your offense can touch the ball, the next play should be worth 7 points if possible. Kwiatkowski believes giving up 24 points is too many.
First games are squirrely. I'm not sure where everyone's head will be at. We won't see anything close to the finished product, but I believe in this staff and squad.
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I like the positivity, droog. You need to hook me up with your Koolaid dispensary. ;)
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Sooners will be hosting Tulane since the hurricane made the game move. Sooners were a 27.5 favorite before the location change, I don't know what it is now. Tulane was 6-6 last year. They have some athletes at the skill position but this should not be difficult for the Sooners. Last time they met, Tulane jumped out to 14-7 lead before the Sooners scored 42 straight.
Why were the Sooners ever going to Tulane in the first place? That shouldn't happen, other than if the team is just really hard up for some good food.
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Why were the Sooners ever going to Tulane in the first place? That shouldn't happen, other than if the team is just really hard up for some good food.
A fun trip for the fans, for sure. That used to be a major consideration for many schools in their OOC schedule. It's become less of a factor these days with television dictating so many matchups and the desire for as many home games as possible, but it's still a consideration for some athletic departments.
Horns played @Tulane in the early 2000s. We all went and had a blast.
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Not playing that game in Norman is a huge loss of gate revenue, though. Not many ADs are willing to bite that.
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First Texas game I ever saw was one my dad took me to at Memorial Stadium in Austin in the early 1960s
We played Tulane
Thats the night I became a Texas fan
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I like the positivity, droog. You need to hook me up with your Koolaid dispensary. ;)
The flip-side of this being the dream team coaching staff is that I'm sort of out of excuses.
I can look back to Mack's "retirement". A successful MNC winning coach rebuilt the Texas program, but lost his drive. It happens. We replaced not only the coach but the athletic director at the University of Texas - the most powerful position in college sports. We replaced him with an absolute moron who thought cutting costs was a good idea. My thoughts on Strong are already published, but he built his staff out of spare parts from the bargain bin. Herman was Sark at USC - drunk on his own press clippings. While I believe Strong was learning to fix his mistakes, Herman's arrogance would prevent him from ever changing.
That brings us to today. The best AD in sports hired the most sought after OC to also be HC. Sark has that hero trajectory. A prodigy that flamed out spectacularly, went on a redemption arc, learned at the master, and now emerges into his own wiser self. He takes his OL and DL coaches with him. He grabs the most entrenched DC out there and changes his address.
Straight up out of excuses. The coaching staff, facilities, and overall football environment for the University of Texas Longhorns have never been better. Only thing left is for the players to perform and post W's.
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I like the positivity, droog. You need to hook me up with your Koolaid dispensary. ;)
probably spiked with Tito's
and plenty of it
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Not playing that game in Norman is a huge loss of gate revenue, though. Not many ADs are willing to bite that.
2 fer one deal?
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2 fer one deal?
Not playing that game in Norman is a huge loss of gate revenue, though. Not many ADs are willing to bite that.
Might be a 2-fer-1 but like I said, some athletic departments consider factors other than just home gate revenue. Our deal with Tulane was a standard home-and-home, and the trip to New Orleans was solely for the fans/alumni.
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Yes, it was a 2 for 1 deal. Tulane played in Norman in 2017 and will return in 2024. In exchange for moving the game, all the ticket revenue will go to Tulane. All the existing tickets will be voided and new tickets sold. Sooners who have purchased tickets will be able to donate them to the hurricane relief fund. Game will still be on ABC at 11:00 am.
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Openers are always uneasy for me. OU has a history of squeaking by or losing. They should be solid this year with tons of returning starters. The one area of concern is at RB where OU is down to 2 scholarship backs. Season will be tough if one or both get injured.
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Might be a 2-fer-1 but like I said, some athletic departments consider factors other than just home gate revenue. Our deal with Tulane was a standard home-and-home, and the trip to New Orleans was solely for the fans/alumni.
some athletic departments have too much money
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some athletic departments have too much money
No such thing my friend.
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then ya gotta get the 2 fer 1
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then ya gotta get the 2 fer 1
Boosters wanted a trip to NOLA. Boosters get what boosters want.
And ultimately I guess you could say it's still about money, because the boosters provide a LOT more money, than does a home game.
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Sounds like they could afford to just go to NOLA without dragging the whole football team there.
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rich, arrogant, Texans
never claimed they were smart
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Sounds like they could afford to just go to NOLA without dragging the whole football team there.
You know how I know you're not a rich football booster?
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Openers are always uneasy for me. OU has a history of squeaking by or losing. They should be solid this year with tons of returning starters. The one area of concern is at RB where OU is down to 2 scholarship backs. Season will be tough if one or both get injured.
Yep. History is a biatch. OU tended to suckle again but at least it was a win with no major injuries that I'm aware of.
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Texas won handily. I saw Bijon had a little over 100 yards rushing, seemed like twice that.
Big 12 went 9-1. Even KU beat SD and KSU beat Stanford. Only loss was a close one with Maryland over WVU.
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Oklahoma and Iowa State, this week, not much better than Tulane and Northern Iowa. Oklahoma did not do much better. Maybe Texas is the pride of the Big 12. Maybe Texas should have stayed in the Big 12. Cannot imagine Texas taking down Alabama most years.
There are only so many pieces in an Iowa peach pie. The Iowa State Champion will be determined, 9/11/2021.
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Oklahoma and Iowa State, this week, not much better than Tulane and Northern Iowa. Oklahoma did not do much better. Maybe Texas is the pride of the Big 12. Maybe Texas should have stayed in the Big 12. Cannot imagine Texas taking down Alabama most years.
There are only so many pieces in an Iowa peach pie. The Iowa State Champion will be determined, 9/11/2021.
Sure, but the same can be said of every single other team in the country, as well.
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I guess the season is just one game and we base everything off that?
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A&M, UT, and OU all looked sloppy as heck. I wasn’t impressed with our Oline or Dline at all. Seems like we got no push and they were in our QBs face all night. Three INT, two in the first half.
I don’t know what happened to OU. Looked like the game was firmly in hand in the first half, didn’t watch the 2nd but looks like they barely held off Tulane.
Neither Texas our UL had any energy in the first half. They looked kinda slow.
LSU lost to UCLA. Lots of comparisons to Gene Chizik and Auburn post Cam Newton.
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A&M, UT, and OU all looked sloppy as heck. I wasn’t impressed with our Oline or Dline at all. Seems like we got no push and they were in our QBs face all night. Three INT, two in the first half.
I don’t know what happened to OU. Looked like the game was firmly in hand in the first half, didn’t watch the 2nd but looks like they barely held off Tulane.
Neither Texas our UL had any energy in the first half. They looked kinda slow.
LSU lost to UCLA. Lots of comparisons to Gene Chizik and Auburn post Cam Newton.
The problem with first games is you dont know just how good the other team is
Louisiana's main problem was they didnt have the bench to keep up with us plus the fact it was hotter then hell on the field
If I had to grade UT's performance I'd give it a B maybe B+
However if Louisiana goes on to have a championship season my grade would be higher
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Yup, "we" often assign too much to Game One. It's a bit of data.
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UT looked great compared to recent past home openers, it's good enough for me for game1 with a new coach and a new freshman QB. I'll take it.
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Card only threw the ball 21 times with 14 complete and no interceptions
We ran the ball over 40 times gaining 176 yards
Im wondering if the reason was because we have a freshman QB or because the coaches thought our best attack was our ground game
Either way its an attack that has not been seen for a few years
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UT looked great compared to recent past home openers, it's good enough for me for game1 with a new coach and a new freshman QB. I'll take it.
Absolutely, and an apparently credible opponent.
Compare with say Nebraska.
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Alabama came out firing on all cylinders. I don’t recall Miami’s performance last year but I think they were undeserving of that ranking.
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I don't think that this is necessarily the case, but I hope that OU badly underestimated Tulane and was no particularly ready to play.
But I'm skeptical of that assessment, because, after a slow start, the Sooners played a dominant 2nd quarter, then failed to play much at all in the 2nd half.
We've got a 2nd-half problem, and have had one since Lincoln Riley became our coach. Whether we take our foot off the throttle, or Riley's play-calling becomes predictable, or some other reason, we way too often blow seemingly comfortable leads.
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I don't think that this is necessarily the case, but I hope that OU badly underestimated Tulane and was no particularly ready to play.
But I'm skeptical of that assessment, because, after a slow start, the Sooners played a dominant 2nd quarter, then failed to play much at all in the 2nd half.
We've got a 2nd-half problem, and have had one since Lincoln Riley became our coach. Whether we take our foot off the throttle, or Riley's play-calling becomes predictable, or some other reason, we way too often blow seemingly comfortable leads.
CW I watched this game and what I saw was an OU team facing a very inspired Tulane team
I wish the Horns could get that inspired
OU's offense played pretty much as expected
OU's defense is where improvement needs to be made
Im not sure the defenses problem isnt a coaching problem in their choice of their play sets
The first game isnt needed just for the players but the coaches as well
Hopefully things will improve against Nebraska
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We've got a 2nd-half problem, and have had one since Lincoln Riley became our coach. Whether we take our foot off the throttle, or Riley's play-calling becomes predictable, or some other reason, we way too often blow seemingly comfortable leads.
I thought we were over that hump last year. Vs KSU, OU led 35-24 in the 3rd and lost 35-38. Vs ISU, OU led 30-23 starting the 4th and lost 30-37. Vs Texas, Ou led 31-17 starting the 4th and went to 4 OT. After that no leads were blown. I hate to see that pattern start this year.
It isn't just the defense, the offence scores a lot early but very little in the 4th quarter of close games.
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I recollect the Rose Bowl was another second half semi-collapse for OU.
But really the Dawg I misfired a bit in the first and started RTDB the second and it worked.
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In a big game, being able to RTDB is a key to success.
Being able to stop the other team from RTDB is another key.
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There's opportunity to improve from your first to your second game. The teams have been practicing against each other for months. They knew their tendencies and habits. Perhaps they answered all the questions right on game film, but when an opponent tries those techniques in a "real" game, sometimes they catch you flat footed. It's just different when the lights come on and the other team doesn't care if your star player gets hurt.
After your second game, you usually know what you have.
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If you're a coach at Texas, you liked that game a lot. You won convincingly, no major breakdowns or power failures, and a whole ton of tape to use in practice!
ULL isn't a tomato can. They're a solid, strong, well built team that won 10 games for two seasons running. They look poised to contend again. They certainly did not give the game away, and demanded that Texas show its quality if they wanted to win. Certainly, in years' past, this is where Texas wasted possessions, had coverage breakdowns, turned the ball over, or simply couldn't get the power cranked up. This is a game Texas either hung on at the end or outright lost.
The Cajun defense sent different looks than they'd had in the past. Clearly, Napier wanted to win this game, and built some packages just for Texas. It's worth noticing, then, that the Texas coaches picked that up and MADE ADJUSTMENTS! Schemes were tweaked. Protections were changed. Coaches, oddly, coached! Nothing warmed my heart more than hearing, after ULL scored their TD, the Texas special teams coach told his unit, "I'm guessing they're going to try the onsides kick. Be aware!". Sure enough, they pinged a short football right to the up man.
Card took his check-down more often than he should. The receiver groups did not create separation cleanly to help him. The OL wrong footed some protections and weren't helped by the TEs forgetting some help schemes. These are all things you'd expect of players learning their craft in Game 1. This team, though, is fundamentally strong everywhere. The coaches will earn their paycheck this week (if anyone could be said to ever "earn" that much cash) by breaking down the tape and seeing where improvements are needed.
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Playing a game in Fayetteville, Arkansas is a lot like College Station or Baton Rouge
For a second game the Horns will have their work cut out for them
Arkansas will attack them with everything they have. The fans with their pig hats will be off the scale loud and crazy with upside down horn signs everywhere
This is going to be a real battle tester
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Yup, I'm always happy to have our old rival on the schedule, and now that Texas will be joining the SEC, it makes this game even more fun, and more important.