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Title: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 05:53:34 PM
I was going to make this a poll, but there are too many legit options.
I was going to list 1 per decade, but that got messy.  Here's a list to help, though:
1966 MSU
1966 Alabama
1969 Arkansas
1971 Oklahoma
1973....like 7 different helmet programs
1974 Michigan
1979 Ohio St
1983 Auburn
1983 Texas
1986 Miami
1987 FSU
1988 Miami
1993 Auburn
1994 Penn St
1996 Ohio St
1998 Ohio St
1999 Virginia Tech
2000 Miami
2002 Miami
2004 Auburn
2005 USC
2008 Oklahoma
2009 Florida
2011 LSU
2014 Oregon
2015 Clemson
2016 Alabama


Who ya got?
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: ELA on May 28, 2021, 06:06:00 PM
What do you count? I feel like just about every team has to claim one. Like a 1917 billingsley national championship or something
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 06:12:01 PM
The real ones (AP, UPI/Coaches, BCS, CFP).  Consensus.  Not computers or time-travelers.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2021, 06:15:26 PM
1981 UGA was perhaps their best team ever compared to the others.  
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: MaximumSam on May 28, 2021, 06:15:30 PM
2019 Buckeyes on the list. Still annoyed we didn't get a shot at an all timer against LSU
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 28, 2021, 06:24:10 PM
Making title game but losing: ‘95 Florida, ‘02 Canes, ‘05 USC, ‘99 Virginia Tech

Missing title game: ‘98 Kansas St, ‘96 & ‘98 Ohio State, ‘99 Wisconsin, ‘95, ‘96 & ‘97 Tennessee, ‘02 Georgia, ‘04 Auburn, ‘08 USC

Edit: Was putting together my list and it struck me how all the good teams coming to mind were teams I watched from 10-20 yrs old, not much after.

And I’ll say it - is the 1996 Citrus Bowl between Tennessee and Ohio State one of the most underrated college football games ever? In terms of star power and team quality? I could easily see both of those teams finishing #1 & #2 over the last few years run of Clemson Vs Ohio State Vs Alabama NC games we’ve been getting.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 06:48:51 PM
Mid-90s to 2010:

Making title game: ‘95 Florida, ‘02 Canes, ‘05 USC, ‘99 Virginia Tech

Missing title game: ‘98 Kansas St, ‘96 & ‘98 Ohio State, ‘99 Wisconsin, ‘95 & ‘97 Tennessee, ‘02 Georgia, ‘04 Auburn, ‘08 USC


Does getting blown out not eliminate a team (95 Florida vs Nebraska, 95 Tennessee vs Florida)?  
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 06:49:26 PM
1981 UGA was perhaps their best team ever compared to the others. 
I'll submit the 1971 Sooners
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 06:51:02 PM
I'll submit the 1971 Sooners
Me too.

470 yards rushing per game.  Stop it.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: ELA on May 28, 2021, 07:27:14 PM
The real ones (AP, UPI/Coaches, BCS, CFP).  Consensus.  Not computers or time-travelers.
Ah, I interpreted it as program.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 07:34:51 PM
Me too.

470 yards rushing per game.  Stop it.
the blackshirts 5-2 defense slowed them down just enough

64-279

Tackles = Rich Glover 3-19-22, Larry Jacobson 2-12-14
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 07:51:36 PM
711 rushing yards vs KSU.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 07:58:30 PM
brutal
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 08:16:36 PM
I was at this game in Lincoln 1982...............

Nebraska’s high-powered offense broke four NCAA single-game records as the Huskers swept to a 68-0 whitewashing of outmanned New Mexico State.

Before the final gun sounded, Nebraska had gained 883 yards of total offense to break the NCAA mark of 875 set by Oklahoma vs. Colorado in 1980, picked up 677 rushing yards without a loss to top the old mark of 645 by Texas-El Paso vs. New Mexico State in 1948, recorded 36 first downs rushing to break the old record of 35 by Colorado vs. Northwestern in 1978, and rolled up 43 first downs to snap its own record of 42 set against Colorado the previous season.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 08:18:48 PM
brutal
What's brutal about those dominant option teams is that they couldn't just run out the clock to shorten a blowout.  They physically did that, but kept scoring.  
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: CatsbyAZ on May 28, 2021, 08:22:52 PM
Does getting blown out not eliminate a team (95 Florida vs Nebraska, 95 Tennessee vs Florida)? 

Not in the way I am looking at it: that ‘95 Florida team was better than and would’ve won National Titles over 7 or 8 of the next 10 National Championship teams. They just had the misfortune of playing an All-Timer of a Huskers team that Jan 2nd night in Tempe. Still remember watching that game as a 9 yr old.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 08:44:46 PM
I was in Tempe for that one

I was early 30s
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 08:46:30 PM
What's brutal about those dominant option teams is that they couldn't just run out the clock to shorten a blowout.  They physically did that, but kept scoring. 
well, they could run the FB between the center and guard over and over and over, but many times, by that point in the game, the 3rd string guys could stop that play from gaining 1st downs
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 08:53:08 PM
95 was Wuerffel's best year and the backup had 12 TD with 2 INT (Kresser).  
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One difference I see is in 96, we beat the holy hell out of the ranked teams, aside from the FSU loss.  
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Losing to 95 Nebraska is the "best" loss anyone could have.  The blowout nature could be attributed to Florida's blocking scheme that was scouted and taken advantage of (kudos to McBride) and Florida defenders going for strips in an effort to still win the game instead of merely tackling.  It would've still been a bad loss, but wouldn't have gotten obscene.  
And that was just one game.  Shouldn't negate the 12 others. 
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 09:25:53 PM
Some other teams whose sole loss was a blowout:
2006 OSU
1996 FSU
2020 OSU
2012 ND
2018 Alabama
1983 Miami (NC)
1994 Colorado
1999 VA Tech
2009 Florida
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: MarqHusker on May 28, 2021, 09:58:30 PM
I was in Tempe for that one

I was early 30s
I was 19.  Great day of tailgating.   Ate so many peanuts in the shell.  Florida was up 10-6.  Doering made some plays early.   My seat doesn't exist anymore.   That deck was removed a few years ago.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 10:11:19 PM
hah, Gators were up, I was in a Gator section.  They were feeling good.........  a few minutes later, they wanted me run out of the stadium.  They called security.  I hadn't even used a curse word.

I stayed, they left at halftime.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 10:14:49 PM
Some other teams whose sole loss was a blowout:

1994 Colorado

don't remember why I wasn't at Memorial Stadium’s 200th consecutive sellout.
I remember watching with a few friends at a friend's restaurant.  It didn't open until later, but let me host a party in the bar.

I think because ABC regional was showing a big ten game in Iowa and the bar had a satellite dish.

Brook Berringer's coming out party
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 28, 2021, 11:51:20 PM
hah, Gators were up, I was in a Gator section.  They were feeling good.........  a few minutes later, they wanted me run out of the stadium.  They called security.  I hadn't even used a curse word.

I stayed, they left at halftime.
Sounds like me at South Carolina's "black out" in 2001 where we spanked them 54-17, behind Rexy's passing. I was quiet and polite.
A far cry from the time we obliterated LSU and I was talking shit and got my orange afro stolen.
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: ALA2262 on May 29, 2021, 12:17:23 AM
1957 Texas A&M. At 8-0 they were ranked #1 in AP poll ahead of Oklahoma which had won FORTY SEVEN straight games. Then it was learned that Coach Bryant was leaving for Alabama and they lost their last two regular season games to Rice and Texas.

http://www.collegepollarchive.com/football/ap/seasons.cfm?appollid=207#.YLG-aahKhPY
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 29, 2021, 12:28:25 AM
Should have waited a couple of weeks....
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 29, 2021, 08:12:07 AM
Sounds like me at South Carolina's "black out" in 2001 where we spanked them 54-17, behind Rexy's passing. I was quiet and polite.
A far cry from the time we obliterated LSU and I was talking shit and got my orange afro stolen.
Wait... So you don't really have a natural orange afro?
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 29, 2021, 08:39:39 PM
Of course not.  
Title: Re: Best Team not to win a NC
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2021, 09:24:38 AM
96 Fiesta bowl on the big ten network in 30 minutes