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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: 847badgerfan on May 25, 2021, 08:49:41 AM

Title: CFB Free Agency
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 25, 2021, 08:49:41 AM
This was so predicable. 

Tampering has arrived in college football, and it looks like NBA free agency (espn.com) (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/31477534/tampering-arrived-college-football-looks-nba-free-agency)
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: MaximumSam on May 25, 2021, 08:59:30 AM
They had the chance to set up compensation and rules for transfers for years. Instead, they took the money and ate a lot of cheese.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: utee94 on May 25, 2021, 09:06:10 AM
I don't like that the treatment of players who want to make a move has always been so lopsidedly draconian compared to the treatment of coaches.

I also think it's reasonable for the players to want to be able to do things like use their own likenesses for earning money.

However, the more college football resembles the NFL, the less interested in it I become.  I'm not alone, attendance is dropping all across the country, the sport is failing to generate new fans to replace those that are leaving, and the entire trendline is in the wrong direction.

Due to CTE liability and other issues, I've predicted many times that 10-15 years from now, the sport won't closely resemble what we have now.  

But at this point, I doubt I'll even be around watching it if and when it DOES make that change.  

College Football Armageddon is upon us and, as might have been predicted, it's going out not with a bang, but a whimper.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 25, 2021, 09:18:51 AM
Sad, but true.

I gave up my seats years ago, as you know.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: FearlessF on May 25, 2021, 09:37:25 AM
apparently, the sellout streak in Lincoln will continue for the foreseeable future
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: ELA on May 25, 2021, 10:49:01 AM
I don't like that the treatment of players who want to make a move has always been so lopsidedly draconian compared to the treatment of coaches.

I also think it's reasonable for the players to want to be able to do things like use their own likenesses for earning money.

However, the more college football resembles the NFL, the less interested in it I become.  I'm not alone, attendance is dropping all across the country, the sport is failing to generate new fans to replace those that are leaving, and the entire trendline is in the wrong direction.
That's where I'm at.

The powers that be were so hellbent on keeping as much short term money out of the hands of the players, they decided to give them every other right in the book, which is going to cost them so much more long term money.

And college basketball is even worse.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 25, 2021, 12:56:43 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ln2phvg.png)
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: rolltidefan on May 25, 2021, 01:02:33 PM
that's a bold strategy. not sure i buy that.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: bayareabadger on May 25, 2021, 01:12:26 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ln2phvg.png)
So, I think that’s not true.

I’m sure someone said it. Someone who matters, but I bet it’s not true. The value of that “free live evaluation” is pretty low. And the financial/resume/experience value balances it out.

(I honestly think some of this gets lightly rolled back at some point, or we hit a point where people transfer quick and are then stuck and it settles down)
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: FearlessF on May 25, 2021, 01:15:44 PM
for a million dollars or more, they will give away players
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: ELA on May 25, 2021, 03:46:35 PM
Yeah, there's no way that's true widely, or even beyond maybe one guy he talked to...who is probably outvoted at his own school
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: utee94 on May 25, 2021, 04:05:44 PM
Those body bag games are the primary source of athletics department revenue for many smaller schools.  There's no way they're going to sacrifice their annual budget on the off chance that a larger school might get a chance to see one of their players for a half an hour.  
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: bayareabadger on May 25, 2021, 09:55:37 PM
Those body bag games are the primary source of athletics department revenue for many smaller schools.  There's no way they're going to sacrifice their annual budget on the off chance that a larger school might get a chance to see one of their players for a half an hour. 
Plus, your stars are gonna be pissed when you explain that they won't be playing in any big cool gyms and they won't get to challenge good opponents from famous schools they grew up watching.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: FearlessF on May 25, 2021, 10:04:08 PM
screw the fans, screw the bank account, and lose the stars anyway

perfect
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: GopherRock on May 25, 2021, 10:14:23 PM
The powers that be were so hellbent on keeping as much short term money out of the hands of the players, they decided to give them every other right in the book, which is going to cost them so much more long term money.
I've said this from the start: if the NCAA didn't fix their business model, someone else was going to fix it for them, and they're not going to like how it gets fixed.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 25, 2021, 11:32:58 PM
When was the last wise move made by the NCAA?
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: MarqHusker on May 26, 2021, 01:14:42 AM
I've said this from the start: if the NCAA didn't fix their business model, someone else was going to fix it for them, and they're not going to like how it gets fixed.
This reminds me of a brilliant scene and performance by Buddy Hackett in Its a Mad Mad Mad World.  Hackett tees off on the gaggle of folks plotting on how to split the $ 250Gs.

Benjy Benjamin: Look, We've figured it seventeen different ways, and every time we figured it, it was no good, because no matter how we figured it, somebody don't like the way we figured it! So now, there's only one way to figure it. And that is, every man, including the old bag, for himself!
Ding Bell  (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001682/?ref_=tt_ch): So good luck, and may the best man win!
Benjy Benjamin  (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004983/?ref_=tt_ch): [to Mrs. Marcus]  Right! Except you,lady. May you just drop dead!

Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: MarqHusker on May 26, 2021, 01:55:29 AM
https://youtu.be/j-7pVks8avo
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: Cincydawg on May 26, 2021, 03:49:27 AM
How much has changed in the past 30 years?  A fair bit, if that is any indication, but a person from 1991 watching a game today would recognize it as CFB with some additional rules.  Most of the changes were away from the game itself.  How many fans are fairly casual fans?  They buy season tickets and TG each home game but don't follow the intricacies that closely?

I also wonder how many Big Donors barely watch the games anyway.  Dunno.  I've been to Superbowl parties where 20 folks were schoozing and 3 watched the game, I realize that is very different.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: GopherRock on May 26, 2021, 08:43:00 AM
When was the last wise move made by the NCAA?
I'm not sure what it was, but making no move may have been the worst option possible.
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: FearlessF on May 26, 2021, 08:46:47 AM
the NCAA has been making no move on many things for decades
Title: Re: CFB Free Agency
Post by: rolltidefan on May 26, 2021, 01:21:55 PM
nah, they've been making moves, they just have that sloth from zootopia with the rubber stamp of approval.