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Title: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
Paul Chryst will have his work cut out for him because there will be a lot of schools gunning for his staff, which has already started with OLB coach Tim Tibesar taking the OrSU DC job (WTF?) and Jim Leonhard being floated around.

If people didn't know the WR coach before last night, they do now. Ted Gilmore has done amazing things in Madison with his group. Time to pay him.

Two coaches are needed currently. One to replace Tibesar and one to be the 10th assistant.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: LetsGoPeay on December 31, 2017, 12:33:19 PM
I’m very interested to see what sort of ripple effect the addition of the 10th coaching position has. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2017, 12:33:59 PM
JR CB Nick Nelson announced after the game yesterday that he will be leaving for the NFL draft. He said a got a 2nd round grade, so I guess it makes sense.

RT David Edwards and RG Beau Benzshawel are staying put. The former makes a lot of sense because he was getting abused last night and was actually replaced by a RS Freshman (RT Patrick Kasl) in the game and did not return. He will have to battle next year to even keep his college gig, it appears.

Still waiting on OL Michael Dieter and MLB TJ Edwards to decide, but I think the former is staying.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on December 31, 2017, 12:35:05 PM
heard on the telecast that 10 Seniors/RS Jr starters on that defense. 5 have eligibility to come back as 5th yr srs and 5 graduate. 

Who you think leaves of the 5 RS Jr? Could be looking at replacing 10 defensive starters if all 5 leave. Same boat M was in going into 2017.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
Quote from: LetsGoPeay on December 31, 2017, 12:33:19 PM
I’m very interested to see what sort of ripple effect the addition of the 10th coaching position has.
I think UW's is already on the staff (QC/QB helper Jon Budmayr).
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on December 31, 2017, 12:47:16 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2017, 12:29:41 PM

If people didn't know the WR coach before last night, they do now. Ted Gilmore has done amazing things in Madison with his group. Time to pay him.


Ted has been solid in all his stops.  Solid at UNL paired with Shawn Watson
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on December 31, 2017, 12:49:29 PM
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 31, 2017, 12:35:05 PM
heard on the telecast that 10 Seniors/RS Jr starters on that defense. 5 have eligibility to come back as 5th yr srs and 5 graduate.

Who you think leaves of the 5 RS Jr? Could be looking at replacing 10 defensive starters if all 5 leave. Same boat M was in going into 2017.
Well, Nelson is gone, so there's that already.

Of the others, you have ILB T.J. Edwards, ILB Ryan Connelly, S D'Cota Dixon and DL Billy Hirschfield. 

Of those, only TJ has tested the waters. The last one will graduate and be encouraged to move on, but he's not a starter.

I'm not sure where they got those numbers from, to be honest. I heard that too.

The DL (2), OLB (2) and DB (2) loses a lot of senior starters though.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 02, 2018, 02:04:46 PM
This is good. This is really good.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 04, 2018, 11:59:56 AM
There were rumors about Jim Leonhard and Florida State, but I never took that serious - it was Fake News out of Tallahassee. But now it looks like aTm and its bank are coming calling, after they missed on Dave Aranda with a $3Mil/yr offer. 

If they are gonna offer JL that kind of money, or even $2Mil, he's gotta go for it. He can always come back to Madison when (not if) it doesn't work out.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 05, 2018, 06:59:47 AM
OK, so he said no. Maybe people will stop poking around, for now.

In other news, UW named Jon Budmayr QB coach yesterday. In effect, his job did not change but his title and pay grade did. This hire is a surprise to nobody.

Still need an OLB coach to replace Tibesar.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 13, 2018, 12:44:30 PM

Why Wisconsin is set up for success

 

Culture can be complicated to define, but these coaches say it’s clearly what sets Wisconsin apart

 

Andy Baggot

Varsity Magazine

Posted: January 05, 2018


BY ANDY BAGGOT
 UWBadgers.com Insider

MADISON, Wis. — In the last 51 weeks, Wisconsin football coach Paul Chryst (http://www.uwbadgers.com/staff.aspx?staff=196) has lost three assistant coaches to grander opportunities.

Justin Wilcox has gone from being UW defensive coordinator to being the head coach at California.

Tim Tibesar (http://www.uwbadgers.com/staff.aspx?staff=213) has gone from tutoring outside linebackers for the Badgers to being the defensive coordinator at Oregon State.

Al Johnson (http://www.uwbadgers.com/staff.aspx?staff=501) has gone from being a graduate assistant at his alma mater, working with the offensive line, to being the head coach at NCAA Division II East Central (Oklahoma) State.

All three left with high hopes and mixed feelings. They expressly loved their time in Madison. They left on the high note of a bowl victory that finished off a season of double-digit wins.

Wilcox, Tibesar and Johnson left the Badgers in better stead than when they arrived — Wilcox after one season, Johnson after two and Tibesar after three — but they also were better for the experience of coaching at Wisconsin.

Asked what piece of the program they most want to replicate in their next coaching life, the three identified the same thing.

"The culture is very unique and awesome to be around," Tibesar said.

"I believe culture is what wins in the long run and that's why I believe Wisconsin has won so many games — because of the culture," Johnson said.

The Badgers are fresh off a record-setting season — a 13-1 overall record and a 34-24 victory over Miami in the Orange Bowl (http://www.uwbadgers.com/news/2017/12/31/football-in-hornibrook-the-badgers-trust.aspx) — that enhanced their place among the elite in the Football Bowl Subdivision.

UW is 101-34 (.748) since 2008, joining Alabama, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Clemson, Florida State and Oregon as the only Power Five schools to win at least 100 games in the last 10 seasons.

Wisconsin has won four straight bowl games, one of the prime legacies of a senior class that registered a program-record 45 victories over a four-year period starting in 2014.

So how do you define the culture at UW?

"Humble and hard-working," Tibesar said. "That sums it up for me.

"These guys come to work every day and want to get better. They're willing to do whatever you ask them to do as a coach, and you can't ask for anything more. They're fun to be around that way.

"It's a coaches' dream. They'll run through a brick wall for you. It's important to them and it is fun to coach at a place like that."

Wilcox traveled a similar descriptive path.

"Geez, there's a lot of words that I could use that people talk about that (people) live by out there," he said. "You talk about accountability and work ethic and toughness. Those jump out at me.

"The players, that locker room, the people involved with the program, everybody's on the same page and they all embody what the program stands for. It's really impressive to see first-hand. It's something that impacted me a great deal in a short time."

Before coming to Madison for the 2016 season, Wilcox was an assistant coach at some highly-regarded college football schools, including Southern California, Washington, Tennessee and Boise State.

When Wilcox took the job at Cal last Jan. 14, he said he had a list of Wisconsin-centric things he wanted to bring to his first head coaching assignment.

"There's a lot of things, but it always starts with the team," he said. "The team has to come first. It's not about an individual coach. It's not about individual players. It's always going to be about the team."

The Bears finished 5-7 overall in the Pac-12 Conference despite a rash of key injuries.

"We're not there yet," Wilcox said, "but we're better than we were eight months ago in understanding it, the humility it takes to put the team before yourself."

What are the expectations at UW? The answers might surprise you because the list doesn't start with winning.

"To me it's 'Do what you say you're going to do; do your job with humility and effort,'" Wilcox said. "You earn respect through your actions and not what you say. It's how you treat people. It's how you live.

"The expectation is that you do things the right way. Everyone in the program understands what the right way is. They know what the standard is and they hold each other accountable to it."

Johnson, from Brussels, Wisconsin, was an award-winning starter at center for the Badgers from 2000 to '02 before carving out a seven-year career in the NFL with Dallas, Arizona, Miami and New England. He was a senior when UW began its current school-record streak of 16 consecutive bowl appearances.

"If your only expectation is to win, it's going to be a really shallow year," he said. "If that's your goal, you're not going to win on a consistent, year-to-year basis."

The expectation at UW, Johnson said, is more fluid.

"It's to be better every day, to go out and work hard," he said. "Can I get better every week and can I peak at the right time?

"At the end of the day, if it's real, the players will see that. I think that's another big reason why we have success. Coach Chryst is himself, so it's real."

Chryst is a former UW player, assistant coach and coordinator who took over as head coach in 2015 after a three-year stint at Pitt. He's 34-7 overall since then, including a 22-4 mark in the Big Ten Conference, and was voted the league's coach of the year for the second straight season.

"There's a lot of really good football coaches out there that can do X's and O's, but I'm not sure that there's a better combination of a person that's that good of a football coach," Wilcox said of Chryst.

"When you talk about humble and hard-working and accountable and smart and tough, that is who he is and that's who Wisconsin is."

Johnson said Chryst's strength is his genuine, consistent, personable approach to running his program.

"Too many times we turn on the TV and see coaches trying to be what they think they need to be for recruiting," Johnson said. "Coach is very secure with who he is. If you're just you, the players will see that. But if you're phony, they'll see that, too."

Johnson said Chryst is not a complicated man to work for.

"You know what's expected of you; you know your job," Johnson said.

"I don't think the buck gets passed around here very much. If it's your mistake, then you own it and you learn from it and you don't make it again. It's the same on the football field, in the offices and just in general.

"That's a very important factor in who we are and why we win. Everybody knows their job and they do their job to the best of their ability."

Johnson officially started his new job at the Ada, Oklahoma, campus on Jan. 2, but spent a week recently calling all his players, answering their questions and easing their minds. He said the main objective, outside of moving his wife Brandy and four young children to new digs, is to create a culture of unity like the one he's experienced at UW.

"How I take it, and how I'm going to instill it in my program, is a family," he said. "Where things aren't always perfect, but we're in this together.

"We're always working to be better individually and as a team and we're doing it together."

Tibesar has worked under three defensive coordinators at Wisconsin — Dave Aranda, Wilcox and now Jim Leonhard (http://www.uwbadgers.com/staff.aspx?staff=484) — and developed some elite outside linebackers in that time. That list includes Joe Schobert, currently one of the top tacklers in the NFL with Cleveland; T.J. Watt, a first-round NFL draft pick with Pittsburgh; and Vince Biegel, who was chosen in the fourth round of the NFL draft by Green Bay.

Tibesar has been a defensive coordinator before — at North Dakota, Kansas State and Purdue — but he's hoping this opportunity with Oregon State will help translate into a head coaching post.

"You can't say it enough: I love that humble and hard-working approach," he said of the UW way. "If I get a chance to be a head coach, I'd love to be part of a culture like that."

Tibesar said it's helped him immensely to be around a group of players and coaches that have the same objectives.

"The players here are something special," he said. "The culture is very unique and awesome to be around.

"I've learned a ton of X's and O's, but also learned from seeing how this program is run and how the players have bought in."

Wilcox said the current UW culture has roots back to 1990 when Barry Alvarez (http://www.uwbadgers.com/staff.aspx?staff=1) took over and began a Hall of Fame coaching career. He won 119 games from '90 to 2005, including three Big Ten titles and three Rose Bowls, before becoming Wisconsin's director of athletics.

Wilcox, who grew up on the West Coast and graduated from Oregon, was asked to identify the difference between UW and other places he's seen.

"It's a beautiful place — Camp Randall Stadium and all that is great — but it's the people in the program that are just really special," he said.

Wilcox said freshmen see things done a certain way so that when they're seniors, they're ready to uphold the current standard of excellence.

"Obviously there's winning," he said, "but winning's a by-product of the rest of the operation.

"If there's one thing, it's the people in the program. Wisconsin is the best example of that."

Johnson said the foundation of success with the Badgers is built on an uncomplicated premise.

"Just be you," he said. "Just be the good you.

"It sounds so simple, but it really resonates with people and players and kids."

Johnson embarks upon his head coaching career with that mental blueprint in mind.
"Obviously there's the X's and O's things, but other than that, those are the two main things," he said. "If I can take them and hold onto them for all my coaching career, I will be a better person and a better father and a better coach."
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 14, 2018, 10:50:56 PM
This was pointed out on the better homer board, but Hornibrook is going to be UW's QB for the next two years.

That's weird to think about. At points even our own Badge said Jack Coan would have a good chance to unseat him. But at this juncture, AH is 20-3 as a starter. He capped his sophomore season with a whale of a game in the Orange Bowl. He's losing 81, but his receiving group could be beastly next season. He was in an offense that ran more than most on non-passing downs, threw more than most on passing downs and was pretty effective in those spots.

In short, unless there's an injury or he just bombs out, we've got two more years of the kid. I hope Coan is ready to redshirt, because if he's not, he's likely transferring. Which kind of sucks, but timing is what it is. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 07:22:35 AM
Yeah, I still think there will be a "competition" in the Spring, but I'm not seeing Coan taking over until AH is no longer in Madison.

It would be ideal for Coan to take a shirt for the 2018 season. Sure seems like UW is getting a transfer QB named Keller Chryst too. There's your backup.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 07:51:57 AM
By the way, when is the last time you were able to say the "UW WR corps should be beastly"?

Time for King Barry to hit up the regents to pay Ted Gilmore.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 15, 2018, 08:52:09 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 09:05:45 AM
Mostly a terrible home slate for the season ticket holders. Lots of nice road games though.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 15, 2018, 09:14:56 AM

Nebraska and Minnesota should excite the fans. 

BYU will sell out one way or another. If the Badger fans don't go, the Cougar fans will. 

The rest all look like duds. But you never know. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 09:28:03 AM
Yep, Minnie and UNL are the headliners. If BYU is what it was last year, not so much then.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 15, 2018, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 09:28:03 AM
Yep, Minnie and UNL are the headliners. 
that's rough, dude
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 04:08:51 PM
Illinois and Rutgers are the other conference teams coming to Madison. So.. yeah.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on January 15, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
Maybe this will be the year that ole Lovie Smith gets things turned around. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on January 21, 2018, 02:58:44 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on January 15, 2018, 07:51:57 AM
By the way, when is the last time you were able to say the "UW WR corps should be beastly"?

Time for King Barry to hit up the regents to pay Ted Gilmore.
I did a look back on this. It's tricky because UW is of course more 3-wide than it's even been, so few could boast the depth. We've had a run of 1-good WR teams or no great WR teams. 
2016 was actually pretty good, but not great. You'd have to go back to 2011 when Toon and Abby were very good, Duckworth was fine
2010 - Toon and Abby were not yet as good as they ended up, but both played a good bit, plus Gilreath and Isaac Anderson as a pretty good No. 4

2005 - Brandon Williams, Jonathan Orr were both good, Brandon White was a nice No. 3

But the two best involved the overlap of generations. 
2003 - Lee Evans as a mother, Williams off a 660-yard season, Orr off an 800-yard season Darrin Charles in there too.
2000 - Evans, Chambers, Nick Davis. 

Before that, did UW play WRs?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on January 21, 2018, 03:06:33 PM
I say it's spinach, and I say to hell with it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on January 21, 2018, 03:46:24 PM
DaRamus and Dawkins were pretty good in 1993. Probably have to go back to Al Toon to find another good one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on January 23, 2018, 12:23:03 PM
J.J. Watt had a funny response to a mistake from the Big Ten Network (https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/BTN-mistake-leads-to-funny-tweet-from-NFL-star-JJ-Watt-about-Nebraska-114084415?utm_source=247Sports%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=180123_111344_Nebraska%20Cornhuskers&utm_content=Image&liveconnect=20-4B-18-0A-0F-AE-FD-D3-26-2C-FD-F1-DB-8E-CC-AE180123_111344NebraskaCornhuskers)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 05, 2018, 08:00:59 PM
I hope the RB recruits are seeing these things.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on February 07, 2018, 05:56:12 PM
The final piece to the coaching puzzle was announced today. Bobby April III has been hired to coach the OLB position.

http://uwbadgers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=788&path=football

http://uwbadgers.com/news/2018/2/7/football-lucas-compatibility-draws-new-coach-april-to-badgers-defense.aspx

Lots of connections to Jimmy Leonhard's old coaches in the NFL.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 14, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Spring Ball has started in Madison, with 15 practices spaced out over the next 6 weeks.

Lots of players out for this one:

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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 15, 2018, 01:25:28 PM
Just graduated in December. He's gonna play this year as a true freshman.

https://twitter.com/brysonjw_18/status/971777372784676864
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on March 18, 2018, 06:35:46 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 14, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Spring Ball has started in Madison, with 15 practices spaced out over the next 6 weeks.

Lots of players out for this one:

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I didn't know you could spread spring practice out over 6-weeks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 18, 2018, 10:36:46 PM
each week you have a practice you're allowed to have meetings all week
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on March 19, 2018, 07:24:06 AM
Right, and with so many new starters to replace on D, and the complexity of that D, it's good.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on March 19, 2018, 09:41:14 AM
Scott Frost mentioned it....

a the first spring practice Friday before Spring break, only so they could have meetings all week.

installing offense and defense and getting to know each other
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 05, 2018, 03:59:53 PM
It's really hard to get much out of this coaching staff - like pulling teeth actually. Almost like that guy in Foxboro. But...

Really nice things are being said about the OL and what it looks like. I've seen terms like nasty, dominating and also embarrassment of riches. That's with 2 projected starters sitting out the Spring.

The Wisconsin line is back.

Thank you, Coach Chryst. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2018, 11:32:29 AM
The first of many notes from Jesse Temple at Land of 10:

Offensive line shuffling won’t be settled until fall camp
Wisconsin’s coaching staff obviously has a plan in mind for where the Badgers will put Michael Deiter on the offensive line this fall. But it sure would have been fun to watch the shuffling unfold during spring practice.

Instead, Deiter is out this spring while recovering from a right leg injury. Jon Dietzen is out with left and right leg injuries.

Last season, Deiter started at left tackle, while Dietzen started at left guard.

Deiter could have declared a year early for the NFL draft but returned, in part, to move back inside and put those reps on tape for pro scouts. If Deiter moves to left guard, where does that leave Dietzen?

Badgers offensive line coach and offensive coordinator Joe Rudolph said this spring that Dietzen was among several players the coaches wanted to cross-train at multiple spots. But it’s hard to believe Dietzen would plug in at left tackle over someone like Cole Van Lanen, who has been a standout this spring.

Van Lanen and Jason Erdmann, who is playing left guard, have been the biggest beneficiaries of the absences of Deiter and Dietzen. Van Lanen and Erdmann have worked with the first-team offense all spring. Patrick Kasl is another option at tackle. Coaches also like center Kayden Lyles, who has played multiple spots on the line in practice.

Of course, Wisconsin returns center Tyler Biadasz, who earned freshman All-America honors last season.

Biadasz would seem to be a lock to start next season. Deiter, right guard Beau Benzschawel and right tackle David Edwards — each of whom earned All-America honors last season — are locks to start.

So, will Dietzen lose his starting job? Will Wisconsin keep Deiter at tackle?

Will Wisconsin have the best second-team offensive line in college football history?

The answers won’t be revealed for months.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 09, 2018, 11:34:31 AM
The Spring "Game" is this Friday at Camp Randall, but there will still be 6 practices held after Friday. The timing, I imagine, is dictated by BTN, who is showing all 14 schools, I think.

Anyway, these "games" under HC PC are nothing more than a glorified practice. We're not going to see a whole lot on Friday because Coach does not like these things.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2018, 07:33:25 AM
UW's Spring "game", which was set for Friday, has been cancelled due to the likelihood of inclement weather.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 11, 2018, 12:50:21 PM
refunds on tickets?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 11, 2018, 12:58:12 PM
Yep, all 376 of them...
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on April 11, 2018, 01:12:04 PM
the spring that tornado warnings in downtown Lincoln and a brutal thunderstorm washed out the spring game, there were no refunds.

Simply save your ticket for next spring

They did give free hot dogs, Runzas, pizza slices, and soft drinks away to those poor souls that ventured into the stadium

I stayed at the bar inside Buzzard Billy's, then attended the volleyball game later that evening
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 12, 2018, 07:38:40 AM
Q: Are you going to have the best offensive line in the country?

Chryst: We’ve got to go and do it. I like the group we have. But every one of those guys, and a lot of them have played and done good things, but we have not arrived.

Q: From the experience you have and cross-training guys at different positions, is this the best offensive line you’ve been associated with?

Chryst: Ever?

Q: Yeah.

Chryst: They’ve got to earn that one. We’ve had some pretty good lines. But I like this group a lot. We’ve had some really good ones. And they’re capable. We’ll see.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on April 12, 2018, 08:01:26 AM
It's odd, I felt like last year's Wisconsin got more hype at this time of year, but I think this year's team is better.  Maybe it's that the schedule was more favorable last year, and now they have trips to Iowa City, Ann Arbor, Evanston and Happy Valley?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 12, 2018, 04:25:49 PM
They lost 2 starting DE's and the #3, they lost 2 starting OLB's and they lost 3/4 of the secondary.

The offense should be incredible. The have all the WR talent back, the star TB, the QB (with a solid backup) and they have two starting offensive lines.

Will they be a better team? I'm not sure. That's a lot of defense to fix. Jimmy L will have to earn his paycheck this year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on April 12, 2018, 04:47:50 PM
Quote from: ELA on April 12, 2018, 08:01:26 AM
It's odd, I felt like last year's Wisconsin got more hype at this time of year, but I think this year's team is better.  Maybe it's that the schedule was more favorable last year, and now they have trips to Iowa City, Ann Arbor, Evanston and Happy Valley?
I think it’s PSU on the schedule. Last year it was take care of BYU and the division and 11-1.
As Badge said, defense turns over a chunk of edge guys and most of the secondary. I’m wary of the offense becuase it seems too ideal (that’s not real, just me being neurotic), and while the defense loses some dudes, UW has reloaded a lot there. I assume they will slip, if only becuase they can’t improve much more. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on April 15, 2018, 01:19:22 AM
Does anyone else sense there is no shortage of talent at the QB position at Ohio State. I am constantly impressed how it seems not to matter who plays this position at this school. They all shine.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 18, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
A very insightful article from Jesse Temple at Land of 10:

Wisconsin signed quarterback Chase Wolf (https://www.landof10.com/wisconsin/wisconsin-qb-chase-wolf-badgers-recruiting)despite one obstacle.
 
The Badgers coaches weren’t welcome at his high school.
 
Cincinnati St. Xavier coach Steve Specht revealed to Land of 10 a rift that had developed between he and Wisconsin coach Paul Chryst. Specht lauded Wisconsin’s football program for its consistency and described the university as “fantastic,” but he won’t allow Badgers coaches to visit the high school to recruit.
 
“I haven’t spoken to any of those coaches,” Specht said recently. “That’s why Chase’s commitment is so strange. Coach and I had a little falling out when he was the head coach at Pitt. Let’s just say some things happened with an old player of mine. He and I still have not spoken. I have not spoken to anyone from Wisconsin. Currently, they are not allowed into St. Xavier High School until Coach Chryst calls me and helps make this right.
 
“I don’t have anything against the university. I’ve sent kids to play there. But Coach Chryst and I, he needs to make some things right with me. And he’s never done that because of something that happened at Pitt.”
 
Specht went on to say he was unhappy because Chryst did not accept the commitment of a St. Xavier player, who ultimately wound up at a different school. Although Specht did not identify the player, an online search revealed it to be offensive lineman Brandyn Cook.
 
Cook committed to Pitt on June 18, 2011, under then-Panthers coach Todd Graham. But Graham left Pittsburgh after one season to take over at Arizona State on Dec. 14, 2011. Chryst, who was Wisconsin’s offensive coordinator, became Pitt’s coach on Dec. 22. Graham had implemented a spread-based offense while Chryst was intent on using a pro-style offense.
 
Cook ultimately de-committed from Pittsburgh and picked Miami (Ohio) on Jan. 23, 2012. He played in 21 career games for the RedHawks with 14 starts. Chryst coached at Pitt for three seasons before returning to Wisconsin as head coach in December 2014.
 
On Tuesday, Chryst shared his side of the story with Land of 10 following Wisconsin’s spring practice. Chryst said he and his coaching staff evaluated the incoming Pitt prospects in the 2012 class to determine whether they would be good fits. Chryst said the 6-foot-2, 300-pound Cook did not possess the size necessary to compete on Pitt’s offensive line and informed him that he would not have recruited him.
 
Chryst said he and current Wisconsin offensive coordinator Joe Rudolph had interacted with Specht before with no issues. The Badgers recruited defensive end Pat Muldoon, a St. Xavier alum, when Chryst was Wisconsin’s offensive coordinator and Rudolph was the tight ends coach.
 
Chryst also said he apologized to Specht for the situation involving Cook “right away” when he arrived at Pittsburgh and once more at a later date.
 
“We want to try to do it the right way,” Chryst said. “And we wanted to do it the right way for that kid when we first went to Pitt and knew it wasn’t a fit. And then you’re like, ‘OK, then it is what it is.’”
Specht has been St. Xavier’s coach since 2004 and has a record of 129-48 with three state championships in Ohio’s largest high school division. Athlon named Specht one of the top 10 high school coaches in America, and he twice has earned Ohio Division I Coach of the Year honors.
 
St. Xavier routinely cranks out high-level FBS players. The quarterback one grade ahead of Wolf was 4-star prospect Sean Clifford, who went to Penn State. St. Xavier’s most well known recent football alum is linebacker Luke Kuechly, a two-time All-American at Boston College who was a first-round NFL draft choice of the Carolina Panthers in 2012.
 
Specht noted that he currently coaches the best high school offensive lineman in the country for the 2020 class. Paris Johnson, a 6-7, 275-pound sophomore tackle, is rated by 247Sports as the No. 1 tackle in the country. And while he holds 35 scholarship offers, Specht said Wisconsin has not recruited him.
“He’s been offered by everyone in the country,” Specht said. “Wisconsin has not recruited him because they’re not involved. I just don’t talk to them. It’s pretty interesting.
 
“I have nothing against Wisconsin. The university is fantastic. The football program speaks for itself. I just have differences with Paul Chryst. And I would love for him to call me and talk to me about my differences, but he refuses to do that.”
 
So how did Wisconsin wind up with Wolf if Badgers coaches weren’t allowed to make in-school visits?
Chryst said Wisconsin’s staff explained the situation to the Wolf family before the Badgers became heavily involved in his recruitment.
 
“We told them exactly what it was and then if you want to keep going, this is the way we’ve got to do it,” Chryst said. “We just said, ‘We’re not here to make it hard on the kid.’ So we didn’t go [to St. Xavier] in the fall evaluation and didn’t want to create any drama for him. … Knowing the family, I think there was some dialogue. If that’s what they want, then we’re going to honor that. But if the kid wants to be recruited by us, then we’re going to recruit him.”
 
Wolf developed a strong relationship with Jon Budmayr, who is now the Badgers quarterbacks coach, particularly during an unofficial visit to Madison last April 18. Wolf committed to Wisconsin on May 5, 2017, and signed with the program in December. He had 18 scholarship offers and was strongly considering Boston College and South Carolina.
 
Chase’s father, Steve, indicated that any disagreement Specht had with Chryst played no factor in how the family approached Chase’s recruitment at Wisconsin. He said Wisconsin’s coaching staff went out of its way to make the family feel comfortable. He noted that several coaches and their wives met the Wolfs for an impromptu dinner in Madison the night before Chase’s unofficial visit last April was supposed to begin.
 
Budmayr visited the family home and was able to get in one of Chase’s home high school basketball games this winter. Meanwhile, Rudolph and Chryst visited the Wolfs after the Big Ten Championship Game in December. Chase and his parents were in Madison last weekend to watch Wisconsin’s spring practice Friday and visit campus again.
 
 “Coach Chryst has come to the house, and actually my wife and I were out of town,” Steve Wolf said. “My 92-year-old dad got to spend time with Paul Chryst. My dad’s been around a lot. And the fact that my dad was so impressed with him, it really fired me up as a father. But I got a chance to talk to Paul, and I like his laid-back approach. We don’t talk football. We just talk about the kids.
 
“I’ve taken my son, he’s 17, 18 years old now, I’m handing him off. I see a lot of programs where I’m not sure if I want my kid to be there. But the coaches there have been wonderful. They come over, Chase plays ping pong with Bud. They do something where they flip bottles like kids. That’s just the way it is. And it’s more about life than football when we deal with them.”
 
Wisconsin’s ability to hang on to Wolf was more impressive considering how many college coaching staffs were allowed to visit him at the high school. Ohio State, in particular, put the pressure on late after Wolf had committed to the Badgers.
 
Wolf said Ohio State quarterbacks coach Ryan Day visited the school, as did coach Urban Meyer, who tried to convince him to change his mind. Meyer’s first coaching job was as a defensive backs coach at St. Xavier in 1985.
 
“He just talked to me saying, ‘So, we’re going to be able to flip you, right?’ ” Wolf recalled. “I’m like, ‘No, no. We’ll see you in the Big Ten championship.’ ”
 
Chryst indicated he had experienced a similar situation as a head coach one other time, when he first arrived back at Wisconsin in December 2014. Quarterback Austin Kafentzis committed to Wisconsin under former coach Gary Andersen and planned to enroll early for spring practice. But when Chryst arrived, he signed Alex Hornibrook in the class and didn’t see Kafentzis as a good fit at the position.
 
“He was coming before we could even get there,” Chryst said. “He had to call me, in fact. He asked, ‘Would you recruit me?’ I said, ‘I wouldn’t recruit you. But now you don’t have any options. He’s a mid-year. If you want, you can come and try. You’ll get an opportunity.’ But the question was, ‘Would you recruit me?’ No.”
 
Kafentzis participated in spring practice, transferred from the program and is now at BYU as a defensive back. Hornibrook is 20-3 as Wisconsin’s starting quarterback the last two seasons.
 
Chryst said he attempted to handle the Cook situation as best he could, including communicating with Specht. Whether Wisconsin’s coaches will be allowed back into St. Xavier under Specht’s watch, however, remains to be seen.
 
“In the end, it’s choices,” Chryst said. “And if his choice is about that, then that’s what it is. There’s no one better with people and in schools than Joe Rudolph. And I know the history, and I know what we did along the way. So you just try to make the best of it. And you really didn’t want Chase to be in the middle of it. That was the thing that became more foremost in my mind when going through the whole process.
 
“That’s why I was really open and said, ‘This is where it’s at. This is the situation. This is what it stems from.’ That was a long time ago. And if he’s going to hold that one, you’re not necessarily proud of it. But I think in the end, if you try to base it on what you think is right for the program, the people and the kids, then you live with that.”
 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2018, 08:45:29 AM
UW picked up a transfer last night, from Houston. From Jason Galloway at the Wisconsin State Journal:



Houston safety Collin Wilder announced via Twitter on Monday night that he will transfer to the University of Wisconsin, less than three weeks after revealing his plans to leave the Cougars.

"Grateful for another opportunity," Wilder tweeted. "Without so many people it wouldn't be possible. I'm betting all in on myself."

Wilder played all 13 games for Houston as a true freshman in 2016, mostly on special teams. He only saw action in two games last year before suffering a season-ending knee injury.

Wilder's set to be a junior in 2018 but will likely re-gain a year of eligibility after playing in only two games last season. He'll be required, per NCAA transfer rules, to sit out this year before taking the field for the Badgers in 2019.


UW reportedly offered Wilder before he signed with Houston in 2016. The Katy (Texas) High graduate was rated as a three-star prospect by Rivals, 247sports and ESPN.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on April 24, 2018, 09:02:09 AM
That’s an interesting pickup for UW. Hopefully develops into something.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 24, 2018, 09:16:31 AM
Another Nick Nelson would be good. Even better if he stayed for two years, unlike Nelson.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2018, 07:53:36 AM
From Jeff Potrykus of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel:

MADISON – The amended contracts approved in February by the University of Wisconsin Board of  Regents should move UW's Jim Leonhard and Joe Rudolph up significantly in annual compensation for football assistants among all FBS schools. 
 
Both contracts run through Jan. 31, 2021.
 
Leonhard, entering his second season as defensive coordinator/secondary coach and third season overall on the staff, is to be paid a total of $966,666 next season. That includes a base salary of $304,800, another $495,200 from the UW Foundation and a retention bonus of $166,666.
 
He is to receive a bonus of $166,667 after the 2019 and '20 seasons. 
 
Leonhard's annual compensation package last season was $600,000, (http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant) the No. 66 mark nationally according to USA Today.
 
Florida defensive coordinator Randy Shannon was No. 17 nationally in assistants' pay last season at $976,500.
 
Rudolph, entering his fourth season as UW's offensive coordinator/line coach, is to be paid a total of $775,000 next season. That includes a base salary of $304,800, another $420,000 from the UW Foundation and a retention bonus of $50,000.
 
Rudolph is to receive a bonus of $50,000 after the 2019 and '20 seasons.
 
Rudolph's 2017 annual compensation package was $654,800, the No. 51 mark nationally according to USA Today.
South Carolina defensive coordinator Travaris Robinson was No. 36 nationally in assistants' pay last season at $750,000.
 
The top assistant was LSU defensive coordinator Dave Aranda at $1.8 million. Aranda was UW’s defensive coordinator from 2013 through ’15. 
 
Bobby April III, entering his first season as UW's outside linebackers coach, is to be paid $300,000. His contract runs through June 30, 2019. 
 
He replaced Tim Tibesar, who was paid $350,000 last season.  
 
The UW Board of Regents in February also approved amended contracts for head coach Paul Chryst and athletic director Barry Alvarez. 
 
Chryst is scheduled to be paid a total of $3.75 million in 2018 and '19. That includes a base salary of $400,000 and $3.35 million from the UW Foundation. 
 
He then receives an additional $100,000 annually through the length of his contract, which ends Jan. 31, 2023.
 
Chryst's annual compensation package last season $3.2 million, (http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/) ninth in the Big Ten and 36th nationally.
 
Purdue coach Jeff Brohm recently agreed to a contract extension and will be paid $3.8 million in 2018. His annual compensation package in 2017 was $3,333,333, the No. 8 mark in the Big Ten and No. 31 nationally. 
 
Alvarez's current contract runs through Jan. 31, 2021. He is to be paid $1.175 million annually, including a base salary of $500,000 and $675,000 from the UW Foundation.

He is to receive an annual bonus of $375,000. The fourth bonus is set to be paid on Jan. 1, 2022, meaning Alvarez likely will remain on as athletic director at least through the 2021 football season.
 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2018, 08:12:52 AM
Also, in looking at the draft, former UW CB Nick Nelson probably should have stayed in school for his final year. I believe he thought he was going to be a 2nd round pick. Now it's 4th or worse. Granted, he tore a meniscus working out for some team a few weeks ago, but still.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on April 28, 2018, 02:06:58 PM
4th round it is.. to the Raiders. Poor kid.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 13, 2018, 09:14:33 AM
Nice read on Jonathan Taylor, from Adam Rittenberg:

MADISON, Wis. -- Jonathan Taylor's (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4242335/jonathan-taylor) upcoming summer school load includes a course in astronomy. Wisconsin's biggest star is geeking out about it.

"I've been a science guy for a while, and space is definitely interesting, how things form," said Taylor, sitting in Wisconsin's football lobby overlooking Camp Randall Stadium on a cool April morning. "It's not like you breathe regular air. It's a totally different realm.

"You don't know what's out there, and it's fun exploring."

A year ago, Wisconsin didn't know what it had in Taylor, who in 2017 reached rarefied air at the program's loftiest position: running back. He broke Adrian Peterson's FBS freshman rushing record with 1,977 yards, eclipsed 100 yards in 10 of 14 games with three 200-yard efforts, and finished sixth in the Heisman Trophy voting. An easy choice for Big Ten Freshman of the Year, Taylor earned second-team AP All-America honors and consideration for both the Doak Walker and Maxwell awards.

Taylor has the size-speed-power combination to exhaust defenses, but his defining trait is an active, inquiring mind. He's driven to succeed but also to understand what goes into success. He constantly asks questions, not because he knows the answers but because he doesn't.

"I enjoy science, so in science, you're always asking why and how," Taylor said. "When it came to football, I definitely wanted to understand defenses, especially when I came to this level. It's imperative to know in the pre-snap reads, you're finding the safety rotations. It's just processing information.

"If you know what's going on, you can apply other situations and tools to that situation."

Taylor has always learned this way. His curiosity stood out to teachers at Salem High School in New Jersey, where he became an honor-roll student and participated in the prestigious International Baccalaureate program, drawing interest from Power 5 schools and Ivies alike. He took courses like critical thinking, where students brainstormed questions to spur big-picture discussions in a Socratic seminar format.

"We talked about how you know what you know," said Sally Lamont, Taylor's teacher for critical thinking. "We would discuss: What is the purpose of knowledge? Deep stuff. He really liked those kinds of discussions. He liked to talk about Neil deGrasse Tyson and Stephen Hawking. He liked both of them and wanted to explore them more."

For his I.B. chemistry final, Taylor studied forensics, comparing the characteristics of fingerprints used to make identifications. For his I.B. literature final, he analyzed the Tao Te Ching, an ancient Chinese text that shaped much of Eastern philosophy and religion.

Most students wanted no part of the Tao. Taylor dove in.

"It forces you to think in ways that are unconventional and maybe a little bit creative," said Regina Ilaria, Taylor's literature teacher. "He seemed to actually really enjoy it. It tells you about his independence."

Taylor, whose love for science began as a sixth-grader, thrived in I.B. chemistry. He would listen intently as his teacher, Louise Jakub-Cerro, explained mathematical formulas and how they related to theories. After Jakub-Cerro finished, Taylor would ask detailed questions.

Only after fully understanding a concept would Taylor jot down notes.
"It's very unique," Jakub-Cerro said. "Usually when you're talking to the class and giving them information, they're trying to get started on a problem or trying to write down everything you're saying. I don't think I've had anybody who really waits and listens like he did.

"It feeds right into those people who go into science. It fuels science, that curiosity."

Taylor has the same thirst with football and understanding what will take his game to the next level. When he arrived at Wisconsin, he constantly asked questions of coaches and teammates. He even peppered former Badgers running backs and fellow South Jersey natives Corey Clement (http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/_/id/3045260/corey-clement) and Ron Dayne -- the team's last Heisman Trophy winner -- for advice on how to play consistently well.

Being in a room filled with older running backs and a veteran coach, John Settle, didn't stop Taylor from speaking up.

"He knew he'd be better off asking a question than not knowing what to do," running back Garrett Groshek (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4035767/garrett-groshek) said. "He's trying to be a scientist when it comes to playing football. He's just trying to ask everything he can and learn as much as he can."

This spring, Taylor entered what Wisconsin coach Paul Chryst calls the "why" phase. Taylor knows what his basic responsibilities are and how to execute them but wants to know why a certain route works against a particular defensive look, or why a teammate's responsibilities change based on a pre-snap look.

"He's really good at doing that, which is also brave, and maybe that's because there's some confidence," Chryst said. "How many guys try to just hide? You don't feel challenged by him. It's definitely not that why. It's why this fits off of this. It's putting the pieces together."

The missing pieces for the 5-foot-11, 216-pound Taylor include improved ball security (eight fumbles, six lost in 2017), a bigger role in the passing game (eight receptions in 2017) and staying on the field as an every-down back. This spring, Taylor and Groshek spent chunks of practices with Chryst, working on catching passes and how they'll be defended on certain routes.

Chryst and offensive coordinator Joe Rudolph are mindful of Taylor's workload -- his 299 carries in 2017 ranked fourth nationally -- but they're comfortable with using him on more third downs, not merely because of his ability but his proficiency. While some young running backs spend most of their film-room time studying long rushes and what goes into them, Taylor calls Rudolph, asking him to explain subtle differences in protections.

"You're like, he really wants to gain an understanding that's a little bit different. He does see a bigger picture to what we're doing and what he's going to be asked to do," Rudolph said. "I said it from the beginning: He showed a maturity that you don't often see and really carried responsibilities that I don't remember many young guys carrying here."

Salem High coach Montrey Wright saw maturity in Taylor at an even younger age. He was the kid who needed schematic concepts explained only once, who knew not only his responsibilities but those of every other player.
Wright typically pushes a handful of Salem's football players toward the school's I.B. program. Taylor was an obvious choice. "He was doing things the average kids his age weren't doing," Wright said.

On the field, Taylor bloomed a bit late. His rushing total spiked from 500 yards as a sophomore to 1,383 as a junior to 2,815 -- breaking Clement's single-season state record -- as a senior in 2016. When coaches began visiting Salem High to see Taylor and watch game film, the running back would always ask them: What do you think I need to work on?

"Coaches would look at him like, 'This is amazing. This kid has great film and he's asking how to get better,'" Wright said. "He wants to soak in as much information as possible. He's always been about the next challenge. He knows that knowing a lot and doing what he's doing goes a long way."

Taylor is still locked in on the next challenge, but he also appreciates how his life has changed. Last spring, he was preparing for track meets at Salem High. Now he's the Heisman favorite (according to Bovada), a recognized face around town.

He smiles while recalling the elderly couple that stopped him by Union South, Wisconsin's student center, to tell him they had season tickets and loved watching him play.

"It was flattering," he said. "It's definitely fun walking around. During this time last year, just a track guy. People recognize your face and know your name now. That just comes with setting yourself to a higher standard."

Judging by Taylor's past, the standard will be met. When he sat down with Settle to review last season, they agreed on two things: Taylor's accomplishments as a freshman were extraordinary, and he has a lot of room to grow.

"I can see it," he said. "I wanted to gain more knowledge."

Taylor's winter was all about upgrading physical skills: quickness, agility, strength. The spring was for sharpening football skills. The fall will be about building upon what he started in 2017.

But first, the University of Wisconsin's aspiring scientist will study astronomy, a chance to get lost in the stars.

Taylor can't wait.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 24, 2018, 10:49:56 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on May 24, 2018, 11:58:24 AM
Good stuff, I may finally attend a Pitt football game.  I'll have lived here 21 years by that point, and football will probably no longer exist in the form that we know it...but I'll pencil it in.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
So, let's see... 2020: A game against Notre Dame in Lambeau and now a game against NU in Wiggly Field.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-northwestern-wisconsin-wrigley-field-20180530-story.html
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 06, 2018, 08:43:59 PM
https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2018/6/6/17431166/wisconsin-football-trench-training-glenn-derby-steve-stark-joel-nellis


Former Badgers molding the next generation of prep linemen with “Trench Training”


https://trenchtraining.com/
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on June 07, 2018, 02:20:48 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on May 30, 2018, 05:17:18 PM
So, let's see... 2020: A game against Notre Dame in Lambeau and now a game against NU in Wiggly Field.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-spt-northwestern-wisconsin-wrigley-field-20180530-story.html

I am not a big fan of games during the regular season outside the college's own stadium, especially when it happens to be a baseball stadium, and the field dimensions are such that the you can only drive the football one direction because part of the end zone consists of a brick wall.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 11, 2018, 03:21:11 PM
I've mentioned this before, on this board. I like it.

The Wisconsin Hangover is real, and it’s spectacular

https://www.landof10.com/wisconsin/wisconsin-football-hangover-effect-2018-nebraska-big-ten

Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 11, 2018, 03:42:45 PM
the same used to be said about the original Big Red back in the day

it's undeniable.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 12, 2018, 05:11:06 PM
And so it starts... son of a BITCH!!

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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on June 12, 2018, 05:16:17 PM
better ramp up the Trench Training for those young fellas
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 14, 2018, 10:18:40 PM
Mertz tweeted he's shut down his recruitment. That seems nice. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 21, 2018, 09:53:15 AM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 22, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/Wisconsin-Badgers-wide-receiver-Quintez-Cephus-sits-atop-Big-Ten-according-to-PFF-119264946/

Wisconsin's Quintez Cephus (https://247sports.com/Player/Quintez-Cephus-86584) leads all returning wide receivers in the Big Ten in passer rating when targeted with a grade of 147.2 in 2017 with Pro Football Focus.

To qualify for the passing rating when targeted, the 33 returning wide receivers in the Big Ten who had 28-plus targets were given a grade. Cephus was targeted 39 times in 2017 and caught 30 passes. The 39 targets ties for 25th among the returning Big Ten wide receivers while the 30 receptions is tied for 18th.

Cephus' receptions went for 501 yards and six touchdowns. The yardage is 13th in the Big Ten while the touchdowns is tied for sixth.

Last fall, Cephus was named honorable mention All-Big Ten (consensus). He also excels in the classroom. He was named CoSIDA Academic All-District and Academic All-Big Ten last season.

He played in nine games in 2017 with eight starts for the 13-1 Badgers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
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Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 21, 2018, 09:53:15 AM
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nice work
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
Despite his 4* OL status, I've been a proponent of this move. 

I've read elsewhere (a generally reliable poster) that RS freshman Kayden Lyles has been moved from OL to DL. If true, I like it. Depth is solid on the OL but the DL needs help with two of its projected starters on the shelf. Probably won't know if this move is for certain until the fall camp roster comes out, so we'll see. The kid is a beast, regardless of where he plays.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 26, 2018, 11:05:05 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2018, 08:58:17 AM
Despite his 4* OL status, I've been a proponent of this move.

I've read elsewhere (a generally reliable poster) that RS freshman Kayden Lyles has been moved from OL to DL. If true, I like it. Depth is solid on the OL but the DL needs help with two of its projected starters on the shelf. Probably won't know if this move is for certain until the fall camp roster comes out, so we'll see. The kid is a beast, regardless of where he plays.
A friend of mine likes to say, once a recruit moves positions, that’s often the first sign it’s over. Granted, Wisconsin seems to do it with walk-ons a lot. 
The end issue is interesting, as UW can get away with playing one against More than a few opponents. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on June 26, 2018, 11:28:42 AM
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 26, 2018, 11:05:05 AM
A friend of mine likes to say, once a recruit moves positions, that’s often the first sign it’s over. Granted, Wisconsin seems to do it with walk-ons a lot.
The end issue is interesting, as UW can get away with playing one against More than a few opponents.
I'd say like 80% of the time that's true
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
Yeah, I don't see this as a knock against the kid. I look at the OL and right now he's blocked at every position by All-America candidates. That's tough.

Plus, he's 6-3, 323. Perfect DL size but inly fits the UW mold of OL at one position - center. Everyone on the starting line is at least 6-5 right now, except Badass, who is also 6-3.

Badass started on the DL. Edwards was a tight end (QB in HS). This staff moves kids.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 26, 2018, 06:25:05 PM
Two Watts moved positions? Maybe three?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2018, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on June 26, 2018, 06:25:05 PM
Two Watts moved positions? Maybe three?
All the Watts were TE's. Heh.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on June 27, 2018, 12:36:34 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 26, 2018, 07:53:17 PM
All the Watts were TE's. Heh.
If only UW could’ve found a few good tight ends in that stretch...
:)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on July 09, 2018, 11:02:27 PM
…
The Badgers have evolved a great deal since Alvarez led the program to three Rose Bowl titles in a stretch of seven seasons from 1993-99, but significant portions of the foundation he built remain visible. The names change, but Wisconsin's identity as a program that relies heavily on grit and toughness has largely remained the same.

The Badgers have averaged 9.1 wins since 1993. They've won at least 10 games in 12 of those 25 seasons and have played in a bowl game in 16 consecutive seasons.

"It's not anything magical, you know," Rudolph says. "It's hard work and it's playing physical and it's caring about each other and it's maximizing opportunities. The sayings on the wall aren't fancy -- 'Smart, Tough, Dependable' — but I think the kids take it to heart."

…




https://athlonsports.com/college-football/wisconsin-football-former-badger-players-lead-coaching-staff?amp
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 02, 2018, 02:49:18 PM
Camp started today. Big item to note is that former 4* OT Patrick Kasl (Soph) has left the team to solely pursue is biomedical engineering degree. He was in line to replace David Edwards at RT next season, but decided that this was it.



BIGGER item to note is that the DL looked like this at times today:



DE Kayden Lyles 6-3, 323
DT Bryson Williams 6-2, 301
DE Olive Sagapolu 6-2, 342
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 02, 2018, 02:59:47 PM
that's a whole lotta beef
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on August 02, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
I wish Michigan could get Bryan Mone's size to play like Sagapolu's. That would be nuts for us.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 02, 2018, 04:06:28 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on August 02, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
I wish Michigan could get Bryan Mone's size to play like Sagapolu's. That would be nuts for us.
Yeah, that would be a crazy line.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 06, 2018, 11:28:12 AM
https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/barfknecht-wisconsin-hasn-t-been-no-in-years-this-could/article_ae151938-abdb-50c1-b3eb-92d8aee5dac2.html (https://www.omaha.com/huskers/football/barfknecht-wisconsin-hasn-t-been-no-in-years-this-could/article_ae151938-abdb-50c1-b3eb-92d8aee5dac2.html)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2018, 09:05:51 PM
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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 07, 2018, 10:33:42 PM
I like the hype
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2018, 11:10:55 PM
I like that when Paul Chryst and OC/OL coach Joe Rudolph got to Madison for 2015, they had 2 of those guys (now returning all-American players) start as redshirt freshmen. 2 others (including one returning all-American) took their redshirt season. Finally, the last one, a returning freshman all-American, was in high school.


Coaching. It matters. Wisconsin has that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2018, 11:13:58 PM
Is it really hype when a unit returns 3 all-Americans and 1 freshman all-American?


Serious question. I'd call it respect, not hype.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 08, 2018, 12:40:45 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 07, 2018, 11:13:58 PM
Is it really hype when a unit returns 3 all-Americans and 1 freshman all-American?


Serious question. I'd call it respect, not hype.
After taking a look at last year’s numbers, I’d say yes.
There are three advanced numbers I like for offensive lines. UW was better than 30th in none. They were 18th in a more opaque stat I’m less enthused with. The pass blocking numbers don’t seem that special. 
I hope it’s like 2010 when a good line got really great. But it’s got to get there. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2018, 06:45:25 AM
I'm not a numbers guy (in this stuff..) so I just watch and judge. UW has a great OL going into this season, and when the NFL grabs 4 of them next Spring, it will be on the coaches to make another one. I trust them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 08, 2018, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 08, 2018, 06:45:25 AM
I'm not a numbers guy (in this stuff..) so I just watch and judge. UW has a great OL going into this season, and when the NFL grabs 4 of them next Spring, it will be on the coaches to make another one. I trust them.
I should clarify slightly. The numbers I used are what I call semi-advanced. They're pretty easy to get, but a bit more than the usual. This is what they are:
Percentage of carries that get five or more yards: UW was 42nd
Percentage of short yardage plays they convert: UW was 37th
Percent of runs that go for zero yards or a loss: UW was 30th
Those numbers are fine, but they're just not great. I watched them last year, and it seemed at times they were often pounding ahead for not enough and eventually Taylor broke a few big ones (UW's run game was just ahead of the national average in keeping ahead of the chains). 
I hope you're right about all those picks. But I hope a big part of that is they play to that level, which I just can't agree they did last year (it was better than the year before, and interestingly, the 2015 team was good at the second two stats and started OK on the first before falling off badly)

(I should add, tracking pass protection is tricky because it's so scheme reliant)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: MaximumSam on August 18, 2018, 08:48:01 PM
Sounds like Cephus is having some sort of legal situation
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 18, 2018, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: MaximumSam on August 18, 2018, 08:48:01 PM
Sounds like Cephus is having some sort of legal situation
https://twitter.com/QoDeep_87/status/1030960966874406912?s=19
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 18, 2018, 09:55:59 PM
That’s kind of fascinating. I’ve never seen an athlete jump out on something like that. 

There was an incident, and no one even has background on changes, police involvement, etc. I imagine internet sluthes will deduce the woman in question uncomfortably quickly, maybe ahead of the other detail. Oh well. He had some potential. UW has three other good receivers.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 18, 2018, 10:17:42 PM
From what I had heard, he was just about the last guy I'd expect to be in this situation, but Travis Walton was perhaps the MSU basketball player I thought most likely to wind up as a head coach, so...shows how well we actually know these guys.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: mcwterps1 on August 18, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Rittenburg and the ESecPN hit crew keeps on rolling.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 19, 2018, 08:50:09 AM
Quote from: mcwterps1 on August 18, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
Rittenburg and the ESecPN hit crew keeps on rolling.
This makes literally no sense. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on August 19, 2018, 10:01:26 AM
I know.  Cephus generated the original content himself.   The Madison pd put out a tweet Saturday .  That's it.  Has any media outlet reported anything beyond those two voluntary statements?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 10:35:01 AM
I'm no attorney, but if I were and this kid was my client, my first line of advice would be to stay off social media. Jeez. 

Now, as to the kid and what I think about the coming charges... He gone.

As for the football team... next man in.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 19, 2018, 11:06:19 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 10:35:01 AM
I'm no attorney, but if I were and this kid was my client, my first line of advice would be to stay off social media. Jeez.

While I agree he should remove himself moving forward, I thought his initial statement was well put together and came across well.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
Yeah, I guess, but why put out a defense even prior to any charges being filed?


I really hope it's not true, but if it is (whatever it is), he's got to be gone.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: SuperMario on August 19, 2018, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
Yeah, I guess, but why put out a defense even prior to any charges being filed?


I really hope it's not true, but if it is (whatever it is), he's got to be gone.
I took it as an explanation of absence from the team, while taking pride in his name. I definitely get your point, but I asked myself how I would react in his shoes and if you’re truly innocent, wouldn’t you want to take pride in defending yourself? He came across firm yet humble, which played well.
I have to believe he knows what the pending charge is, which is why he took this approach. If there are no definitive charges, then my view completely switches to your point.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 19, 2018, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
Yeah, I guess, but why put out a defense even prior to any charges being filed?


I really hope it's not true, but if it is (whatever it is), he's got to be gone.
Here’s the options of how it comes out:
1. Reporter finds it in court filings 
2. School issues a vague release and someone eventually gets court records
3. Guy disappears, many questions, then public records happen
4. This
It’s an interesting choice, but he gets a head start at controlling the message. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 19, 2018, 06:13:14 PM
I'm coming around to what he did. We'll see.

He seems like a great kid - one who lost his pops to a senseless shooting last year. He's got to be wondering how much more shit he has to deal with in his young life, right?

Man, I hope he is innocent. I really do.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 19, 2018, 06:24:08 PM
Quote from: SuperMario on August 19, 2018, 11:06:19 AM
While I agree he should remove himself moving forward, I thought his initial statement was well put together and came across well.
Same.  Control the narrative, get out in front of it, but in a professional manner.  I'd go dark now, but I think what he did was smart.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 08:03:41 AM
Sifting through some of the weeds on this thing... Looks like charges could come as soon as today.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 02:47:15 PM
Going to court Thursday at 10:30AM. Still no details as to why, but he will be charged with something.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 05:20:10 PM
Looks like two charges - two different women, same night. Oh boy.


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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
More coming out even still. Danny Davis is said to have been in the apartment and was taking pictures.

Cephus has been officially suspended by King Barry. If the pictures thing is true, gotta suspend Davis too, in my opinion. 


I'm really not used to having to read (or post) about this shit with the program I love. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on August 20, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
Pretty stark report of the events of the evening.  I'm more puzzled now as to why he decided to tweet out anything .
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
I'm really not used to having to read (or post) about this shit with the program I love.
100 kids on the roster year after year, sooner or later someone is gonna do something stupid
no excuse, it's just how it is
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 09:09:48 PM
Quote from: MarqHusker on August 20, 2018, 08:59:00 PM
Pretty stark report of the events of the evening.  I'm more puzzled now as to why he decided to tweet out anything .
Well, yeah. 
No matter the outcome in court, the kid is not what he was - A first round talent.
Keep it in your pants, boys. Don't let the little head think for the big one.
That would be my message.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 20, 2018, 09:10:48 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on August 20, 2018, 09:04:33 PM
100 kids on the roster year after year, sooner or later someone is gonna do something stupid
no excuse, it's just how it is
UW has been immune for a long, long time. This sucks.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
yup, still hurts
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 11:35:32 AM
Depth is starting to shake out now.

Starting offensive line, from left to right:


Jon Dietzen
Michael Deiter
Tyler Biadasz
Beau Benzschawel
David Edwards


Dietzen is a little bit of a surprise here, as he's always been inside. It also might not be completely in the books between he and Cole Van Lanen. I guess we'll know in about 5-6 days when the official depth is released.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on August 21, 2018, 12:51:43 PM
Cephus and Davis? That stinks. After Fumagalli, who else was productive last year? I think those were 3 of the top few or four. Who's left?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 03:14:15 PM
AJ Taylor and Kendric Prior were very good last year. TE's Penniston and Neuville will be productive, as will RSF TE Ferguson.

There are a few more WR who will certainly contribute this year. TF Aron Cruickshank will surely be one of them.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 03:23:32 PM
you've got Scots with crooked legs that can play WR?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on August 21, 2018, 03:31:54 PM
RECEIVING STATISTICS FOR RECEIVERS WITH AT LEAST 10 Catches
NAMERECYDSAVGLONGTD
Troy Fumagalli (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/546849/troy-fumagalli)4654711.9444
Quintez Cephus (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4035793/quintez-cephus)3050116.7616
A.J. Taylor (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4035792/a.j.-taylor)3147515.3515
Danny Davis III (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4242330/danny-davis-iii)2641816.1505
Kendric Pryor (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4035776/kendric-pryor)1317913.8311
Losing #1 for a good reason and #2 and #4 for a bad reason would be tougher on Hornibrook than he spent the offseason expecting.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 03:36:08 PM
I agree with the premise, but going in to last year, other that Fums, nobody outside of UW fans really knew any of those guys on that list you have there.


One other guy UW fans know is WR coach Ted Gilmore. He's really good.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 03:42:46 PM
Teddy could possibly be a bit better as a life coach
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 04:16:32 PM
I'm guessing he wasn't in the apartment when that stuff went down, nor in the bar that let an underage kid inside, nor waiting in the car when he got out.


Can't keep on eye on everything. If this were a common thing, I'd call it a culture problem. I think this is the first incident for criminal charges against a UW football player since 2007.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 04:19:55 PM
agreed, trouble has not followed Coach Gilmore

solid coach at UNL and other stops as far as we know
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 04:32:57 PM
Stop. Think. Don't.


Those are my words for college boys, when it comes to drunk college girls.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 21, 2018, 04:39:43 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 04:16:32 PM
I'm guessing he wasn't in the apartment when that stuff went down, nor in the bar that let an underage kid inside, nor waiting in the car when he got out.


Can't keep on eye on everything. If this were a common thing, I'd call it a culture problem. I think this is the first incident for criminal charges against a UW football player since 2007.
Last I recall was Kraig Appleton in 2010. I think Maurice Moore flipped a car while drunk driving the year before.

(Appleton might not've been an arrest because of circumstances)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 04:45:13 PM
What was it that Appleton did again?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 21, 2018, 04:50:03 PM
Wisconsin has done an incredible job through the years of running a good program and keeping the kids in line.  

You can’t be 100%,  too many kids and coaches, too many uncontrollable situations.   Badgers have come close though.  
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 21, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
Appleton had a number of issues, troubled kid, IIRC.  He was suspended once, then kicked off the team, then not long after getting the boot he was back home and got shot.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 05:58:29 PM
Yep, he was interesting. Honor roll, albeit at East St. Louis HS, but still.

Anyway, yeah, he was never charged criminally but dismissed anyway. The other kid mentioned got a DWI and I don't think was back with the team the following season.

Say what you will about BB. The guy ran a pretty clean ship.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on August 21, 2018, 08:07:41 PM
Ooh, ooh, ooh, let's start saying some stuff about BB again!!  :)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 21, 2018, 08:20:38 PM
no Troy Fumagali, now no Cephus, and possibly no Danny Davis? Alex Hornibrook probably looking towards a regression. He has his good moments where you go where the F did that come from- but honestly he's just not that good. Kind of the Joe Flacco of CFB. He was carried by pretty good TE/WR talent, strong OL and run game and a strong defense. With a top flight QB like they had years ago with Russell Wilson- last years Wisconsin team is playing for a title IMO. Wisconsin is replacing 7 starters on D and if he's losing 3 of his top 4 receiving targets- just don't see Hornibrook getting any better.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 08:27:20 PM
Hornibrook could and probably will make a big improvement

but, saying the receiving corps will be as good as last season is very doubtful if the two young men in question are released 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on August 21, 2018, 08:58:47 PM
Hornibrook was pretty inconsistent last year, but he mixed in these extreme throw god moments that, even if interspersed, made me figure his longterm potential was high.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 09:00:38 PM
Quote from: Mdot21 on August 21, 2018, 08:20:38 PM
no Troy Fumagali, now no Cephus, and possibly no Danny Davis? Alex Hornibrook probably looking towards a regression. He has his good moments where you go where the F did that come from- but honestly he's just not that good. Kind of the Joe Flacco of CFB. He was carried by pretty good TE/WR talent, strong OL and run game and a strong defense. With a top flight QB like they had years ago with Russell Wilson- last years Wisconsin team is playing for a title IMO. Wisconsin is replacing 7 starters on D and if he's losing 3 of his top 4 receiving targets- just don't see Hornibrook getting any better.
You understand you're talking about Wisconsin, right? Coaching, development, (mostly) good kids?
UW will be fine. As I mentioned upthread, nobody knew about the WR corps last year, outside of Fums. Hell, nobody gave a second thought to running back either. Mistake...
The defense? Yeah. Lots of losses, like every year. But,
Jim Leonhard.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 09:25:44 PM
From the Wisconsin State Journal:


Lawyers for UW-Madison wide receiver Quintez Cephus wrote in court filings Tuesday they believe prosecutors have evidence showing two women who said Cephus sexually assaulted them in April were not impaired by alcohol as the women have told police.

 

Cephus, 20, was charged Monday with second-degree sexual assault and third degree sexual assault for what prosecutors and police said was an April 22 incident at Cephus' apartment in which Cephus sexually assaulted each of the women, who said they were drunk beyond the ability to consent to sex.

One of Cephus' lawyers, Stephen Meyer, called the criminal complaint

"salacious" in an emailed comment on Monday.

 

On Tuesday he filed a motion which would require prosecutors to preserve specific pieces of evidence that include surveillance video from various campus-area locations, showing the two women did not appear to be intoxicated. Prosecutors should also be required to preserve text messages and social media postings that "will support the defense in this case and show that any sexual contact was knowing and consensual," Meyer wrote.

 

"The prosecution possesses critical forensic, physical and documentary

evidence not disclosed or described by the criminal complaint," Meyer wrote. "Its preservation is essential to ensure all relevant facts are presented and to assure a fair resolution of this case."

 

Meyer originally requested preservation of the evidence in a letter dated June 19 to Deputy District Attorney Andrea Raymond, two months before

prosecutors filed charges against Cephus. The letter was attached to Meyer's motion.

 

According to the criminal complaint, one of the women told police she met

Cephus through a mutual friend on April 21, then met up with him later at the Double U bar, 620 University Ave. Both women told police they were very drunk at the bar and at Cephus' apartment.

 

Among the evidence Meyer asked prosecutors to preserve were camera images from the lobby, elevator and second floor of Cephus' apartment building and video footage of the entrances to two residence halls on the UW-Madison campus, which he wrote will show the women were not impaired.

 

Meyer also asked for video footage from the Double U and another bar, along with city street camera footage on University Avenue and Frances Street, which he said would also show the two were not impaired.

 

Meyer also sought the results of blood or urine tests of the woman done as part of the investigation, and wants prosecutors to preserve phones belonging to Cephus and the two women, along with the results of any forensic examination of the phones.

 

Cephus will appear in court on Thursday. He has been suspended from football practice and games under the UW Student-Athlete Discipline Policy.

 

UW-Madison said in a statement Monday it cannot release information about whether a misconduct complaint has been made or is being investigated against a particular student.

 

But in general, UW said, in cases involving sexual misconduct the Title IX Program in UW's Office of Compliance may conduct a formal investigation into the allegations, which under state administrative code could lead to sanctions that include suspension or expulsion.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2018, 10:00:33 PM
perhaps it was consensual until the women found out they were photographed?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 22, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 04:45:13 PM
What was it that Appleton did again?
The running rumor was robbing a drug dealer with two teammates. Obviously drug dealers can’t press charges, but it was enough of a think he got an indefinite suspension that became leaving the team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 22, 2018, 01:58:49 PM
Danny Davis suspended for the first two games
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: MrNubbz on August 22, 2018, 02:05:27 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 22, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
The running rumor was robbing a drug dealer with two teammates. Obviously drug dealers can’t press charges, but it was enough of a think he got an indefinite suspension that became leaving the team.
What in the hell is the world coming to when contraband peddlers can't even safely ply their trade - Armageddon is upon us
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 22, 2018, 03:01:40 PM
Quote from: ELA on August 22, 2018, 01:58:49 PM
Danny Davis suspended for the first two games
Good. Hopefully by then the DA has a resolution by then too, because if he did what has been purported, he needs to go away as well. Due process will tell us that.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Mdot21 on August 22, 2018, 04:16:37 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 21, 2018, 09:00:38 PM
You understand you're talking about Wisconsin, right? Coaching, development, (mostly) good kids?
UW will be fine. As I mentioned upthread, nobody knew about the WR corps last year, outside of Fums. Hell, nobody gave a second thought to running back either. Mistake...
The defense? Yeah. Lots of losses, like every year. But,
Jim Leonhard.
Yeah, Wisconsin will be fine. Never said they wouldn't be. Schedule is manageable and the west is pretty weak.
I was mainly just talking about Hornibrook.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2018, 07:15:15 AM
Really looking forward to seeing more progress from him this year. He probably trusts his arm too much still, but his arm is better than many people would think. Just cut down on the interceptions and he'll be fine.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2018, 01:34:25 PM
AP Story:

Attorneys for Wisconsin (http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/_/id/275/wisconsin-badgers) wide receiver Quintez Cephus (http://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4035793/quintez-cephus) have filed a motion asking a judge to dismiss one of two sexual assault charges against him.


Prosecutors charged Cephus with second- and third-degree sexual assault Monday. Investigators say he raped two women in his apartment in April.
A court commissioner set a $5,000 signature bond for Cephus on Thursday in a proceeding that lasted less than five minutes. A preliminary hearing was set for Sept. 6.

Cephus' attorneys filed a motion Wednesday demanding a judge throw out the second-degree sexual assault count. They argue in the motion that the first woman told investigators the second woman was so drunk she was nearly comatose but that surveillance camera footage shows both women leaving the apartment building with no signs of impairment.

They also say that the second woman sent Cephus a text about 45 minutes after she left the apartment asking him to find her vaping device and closed the message with a heart and a kiss emoji.

Cephus' attorneys told reporters after the proceeding that he is innocent.
Jamie Dickey, one of Cephus' coaches at Stratford Academy in Georgia, attended the hearing in a show of support for Cephus. He told reporters that a lot of people will owe Cephus an apology when the case is over.

The 20-year-old Cephus was suspended by the fourth-ranked Badgers indefinitely on Monday.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: Entropy on August 26, 2018, 11:51:30 AM
Saw on Twitter that Corso predicted big things for Wisconsin.  Called them an SEC team.  I guess if you're good, you're an SEC team
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Offseason Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 26, 2018, 01:50:49 PM
Kiss of death. Shit.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
The season is upon us and the name of the threads are changing by taking the "off" out of offseason.


I'm thinking we don't need a thread for the Western Kentucky tilt coming Friday, so I'm not starting one. UW should roll.

As for the depth, it's looking pretty good across all areas right now - including the WR position.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on August 28, 2018, 08:50:56 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 27, 2018, 06:20:28 PM
The season is upon us and the name of the threads are changing by taking the "off" out of offseason.


I'm thinking we don't need a thread for the Western Kentucky tilt coming Friday, so I'm not starting one. UW should roll.

As for the depth, it's looking pretty good across all areas right now - including the WR position.
Kind of surprising how quickly WKU has fallen off, after previously surviving regular coaching turnover.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on August 28, 2018, 09:25:34 AM
Quote from: ELA on August 28, 2018, 08:50:56 AM
Kind of surprising how quickly WKU has fallen off, after previously surviving regular coaching turnover.
I felt that way too, and then looked at the records. The previous teams might not've had that far to fall. They went from bad under Taggart to OK (7 wins) to 8 under Petreno. Then Brohm maintained and improved a ton, but there was of course now a long way down to 6-6ish

(I also got convinced to host something that night at my apartment, and I don't know how to say, I just want to put on sweatpants and not leave the couch)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 09:50:13 AM
I'm watching it on my boat, putting the Roku to the test. If not, I'll unplug it and hook on to the marina cable system, which has ESPN.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on August 28, 2018, 10:09:37 AM
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 28, 2018, 09:25:34 AM
I felt that way too, and then looked at the records. The previous teams might not've had that far to fall. They went from bad under Taggart to OK (7 wins) to 8 under Petreno. Then Brohm maintained and improved a ton, but there was of course now a long way down to 6-6ish

(I also got convinced to host something that night at my apartment, and I don't know how to say, I just want to put on sweatpants and not leave the couch)
I think the fade continues though downward from there.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 04:22:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dlih2tAUUAE_fjb.jpg)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 04:33:59 PM
Out

DE Kraig Howe (right leg)
 S Patrick Johnson (head)
 DE Isaiahh Loudermilk (left leg)
 TE Zander Neuville (right leg)
 RB Bradrick Shaw (left leg)

Out for season

OLB Mason Platter (right leg)
 DE Garrett Rand (right leg)
 OL Blake Smithback (right leg)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 28, 2018, 04:46:05 PM
WRs are junior and sophs

no WRs out

good news
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 05:12:08 PM
Notice the backup nose guard? He enrolled early, and it turns out to be super important for Leonhard to stave off that late interest by Frost. Two projected starters on the line are out this week - one for the whole year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 28, 2018, 05:16:25 PM
good for the kid, hopefully has a great career there

would have had early opportunities in Lincoln as well

had a 340 pound Redshirt frosh NT come in 3rd on the 2-deep
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on August 28, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 04:33:59 PM
Out

DE Kraig Howe (right leg)
 S Patrick Johnson (head)
 DE Isaiahh Loudermilk (left leg)
 TE Zander Neuville (right leg)
 RB Bradrick Shaw (left leg)

Out for season

OLB Mason Platter (right leg)
 DE Garrett Rand (right leg)
 OL Blake Smithback (right leg)

For context: Which ones are returning or predicted starters?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 07:41:16 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on August 28, 2018, 07:28:38 PM
For context: Which ones are returning or predicted starters?
I mentioned the DL - Loudermilk and Rand. Loudermilk should be back when the B1G games start.
To combat this, the staff moved Kayden Lyles from OL to DL (I predicted he'd play defense when they recruited him) and made some other adjustments. The DL in UW's scheme is designed to keep OL off the LB's. The OLB's in the scheme are pass rushers and also charged with coverages. Lots of chaos in the scheme because the QB never knows where the OLB's are gonna be.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 28, 2018, 07:44:06 PM
Beyond those, Shaw was expected to contribute this season. TE Neuville was a starter last year and was going to be this year. It is not known when he will return, but he will be needed as he is an excellent blocker. Insert Cole Van Lanen into his spot as the blocking TE, as was done last season.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 30, 2018, 07:26:08 AM
CB depth takes a hit.


https://247sports.com/college/wisconsin/Article/Wisconsin-Football-Sophomore-Cornerback-Dontye-Carriere-Williams-Leaves-the-Badgers-Two-Days-Before-the-Season-Opener-121174016/



Carriere-Williams Leaves the Program
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Temp430 on August 30, 2018, 07:30:20 AM
Don't like those kind of transfers.   The NCAA should limit the ability to do that to prior to the start of Summer camp.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 30, 2018, 07:41:53 AM
The kid came in is #1 and left at #4 on the depth. There were some cryptic tweets and comments in past couple of weeks that make this news not too surprising.


I hope it doesn't affect UW's relationships at St. Thomas Aquinas. It shouldn't but you never know.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 03, 2018, 02:34:18 PM
ILB Arrington Farrar has left the team but will stay in school to concentrate on getting his degree. It's too bad really, because I always thought he had promise but just couldn't find a place to stick. He left as a member of the 3rd team ILB group, so I get it.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 03, 2018, 03:40:23 PM
Only one more tune up, before the quintessential nonCon game. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 03, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
I'd like to think BYU is better than last year, but beating Arizona only means they beat Kevin Sumlin...
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 04, 2018, 08:31:12 AM
I'm not starting a thread for New Mexico at Wisconsin. No need.


UW released its injury report and DE Loudermilk and TE Neuville have been cleared to play. I'd like to see QB Jack Coan play a lot this week, and Hornibrook a lot less.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 04, 2018, 01:35:40 PM
Was not impressed by Friday night's win. Could be Chryst didn't want to show anything and was content to control the game, which was nearly a foregone conclusion. Still, I thought the play was merely average all the way around.

Then I saw the scores from other games around the conference and I was happy to have a convincing win.

Hope to see improvement next week, even against New Mexico.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 04, 2018, 02:43:57 PM
Quote from: SFBadger96 on September 04, 2018, 01:35:40 PM
Was not impressed by Friday night's win. Could be Chryst didn't want to show anything and was content to control the game, which was nearly a foregone conclusion. Still, I thought the play was merely average all the way around.

Then I saw the scores from other games around the conference and I was happy to have a convincing win.

Hope to see improvement next week, even against New Mexico.
Me neither. Vanilla at best.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 05, 2018, 10:28:20 AM
Safety Patrick Johnson has left the team for personal reasons not disclosed. He was supposed to be the #3 safety this season, but sat out last weekend due to a concussion. The hits just keep coming for this team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 07:55:56 AM
I would not have scheduled that offense without a fight. Not a fun one to face.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 06, 2018, 09:56:56 AM
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 07:55:56 AM
I would not have scheduled that offense without a fight. Not a fun one to face.
I don't understand what you're post is referenced to.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 01:03:48 PM
New Mexico runs, or at least used to run, a triple option that often plays three backs behind the QB. It’s as exotic an offense as there is.

Not that it’s great, but it’s a pain to prep for. Two years ago went for 350 rushing yards a game. Even last year, when bad, they hit 5.2 per carry.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 06, 2018, 01:06:49 PM
Bob Davie and former Arizona co-offensive coordinator Calvin Magee?

What do they know about offense?

I wouldn't worry with the Badger defense
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 06, 2018, 01:40:39 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 01:03:48 PM
New Mexico runs, or at least used to run, a triple option that often plays three backs behind the QB. It’s as exotic an offense as there is.

Not that it’s great, but it’s a pain to prep for. Two years ago went for 350 rushing yards a game. Even last year, when bad, they hit 5.2 per carry.
Spread option now.

Cosgrove's defense allowed 550+ yards to Incarnate Word last week. I didn't know Incarnate Word was a college, let alone on that had a football team.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 06, 2018, 02:17:09 PM
it's almost a good thing that Cosgrove came along with Billy C.

sealed Billy C.'s fate at Nebraska

if Callahan had picked a decent to above average D-coordinator, he may have stayed longer in Lincoln
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 03:18:40 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 06, 2018, 01:40:39 PM
Spread option now.

Cosgrove's defense allowed 550+ yards to Incarnate Word last week. I didn't know Incarnate Word was a college, let alone on that had a football team.
They’ll go two- and three-back triple out of the fun. 
Not that the NM defense won’t get trampled. But no one wants to play a team that’s gonna option you that much.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 03:20:35 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on September 06, 2018, 02:17:09 PM
it's almost a good thing that Cosgrove came along with Billy C.

sealed Billy C.'s fate at Nebraska

if Callahan had picked a decent to above average D-coordinator, he may have stayed longer in Lincoln
His career has been weird. He built some good defenses in Madison, then stayed long enough to build bad ones. Been a mess since. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 06, 2018, 03:27:36 PM
Line up the CB's 10-15 yards off the LOS and let's see what happens!!
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on September 06, 2018, 03:30:47 PM
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 06, 2018, 03:18:40 PM
They’ll go two- and three-back triple out of the fun.
Not that the NM defense won’t get trampled. But no one wants to play a team that’s gonna option you that much.
What concerns me more is the cut blocking.  I just prayed MSU got out of the Air Force game healthy a couple years ago.  And they went over the top with it, drew multiple chop block penalties.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 06, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
The refs have been calling it on the edges and downfield.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: iahawk15 on September 07, 2018, 10:43:40 AM
Quote from: MarqHusker on September 06, 2018, 08:16:57 PM
The refs have been calling it on the edges and downfield.
Old man Ferentz weighed in on that.

https://twitter.com/IowaOnBTN/status/1037058733694705664 (https://twitter.com/IowaOnBTN/status/1037058733694705664)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 07, 2018, 10:49:43 AM
Good stuff from Kaptain Kirk!
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 07, 2018, 12:57:40 PM
I've seen it called at least once in just about every game I've watched.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 07, 2018, 02:11:18 PM
UW certainly cannot afford to lose any more defenders - particularly on the DL. I hope they come out OK.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 10, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
This just in: Wisconsin @ Iowa Sept. 22, 7:30 p.m. start time.

Extended tailgating with Iowa and Badger fans will no doubt fill the Johnson County Jail to overflowing. Don't let it be you. Pace yourselves. 

Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 10, 2018, 08:05:22 PM
don't be a sissy

drink till ya puke blood
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 10, 2018, 09:19:07 PM
Quote from: Hawkinole on September 10, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
This just in: Wisconsin @ Iowa Sept. 22, 7:30 p.m. start time.

Extended tailgating with Iowa and Badger fans will no doubt fill the Johnson County Jail to overflowing. Don't let it be you. Pace yourselves.


(https://www.cfb51.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nydailynews.com%2Fresizer%2FjA_MHLsPevJGBfaBYvRgQ-82pyw%3D%2F1400x0%2Farc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2F5FH62HUDQ2DQ4L6KQOGINA4CYU.jpg&hash=816967654a6f4b3d489c26fff80d9620)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 10, 2018, 09:59:59 PM
She shouldn't have fallen for the Sharkwater in Iowa City.  Stick to the Schlitzes.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 10, 2018, 10:47:56 PM
Hawkeyes can't handle the Sharkwater!
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 06:46:05 AM
I used to have a "no drink" policy before games, so those late starts were a real challenge for me. I've relaxed a little bit, but I don't go to nearly as many games as I used to. The old back doesn't much care for bench seating.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 11:20:27 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DmvcSMsU8AEY7jn.jpg)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 11, 2018, 11:51:46 AM
plenty of R-FR on the defensive 2-deep

young team, not as young as UNL
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 11, 2018, 02:32:33 PM
(1) What's with the OR between Dietzen and Van Lanen?

(2) Until the Badgers find a kid named Cheesecurd, I'm not gonna believe there's a more Wisconsin name than Loudermilk
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on September 11, 2018, 02:32:33 PM
(1) What's with the OR between Dietzen and Van Lanen?

(2) Until the Badgers find a kid named Cheesecurd, I'm not gonna believe there's a more Wisconsin name than Loudermilk
1. Respect for Deitzen, who has played through every injury he possibly could during his time in Madison. Everyone knows Van Lanen is better. Deitzen will be a starting guard next season.
2. Loudermilk is from Kansas. ;)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 11, 2018, 02:45:55 PM
Yeah,  Loudermilk doesn't scream Wisconsin to me.
Here's a fun breakdown, of select people in Wisconsin with the following surnames and of that total number the % of those surnames nationwide which are found in Wisconsin.   This is funny to me, as I know people with these names. I cut it off at 50%



































































Dantoin58 100.00%
Druwiski    2 100.00%
Samorske     7 100.00%
Schadrie    84 100.00%
Skaletski     82 94.25%
Debauch     70 90.91%
Hockers     161 89.94%
Davister7989.77%
Dequaine    10389.57%
Lasee     18887.85%
VanDreel     121 86.43%
VanLannen    9685.71%
Szprejda    2083.33%
VanPay     17481.31%
Alsteen    276 80.70%
Scray     10980.15%
Duquaine     212 80.00%
Mancheski     14880.00%
VanElzen     6779.76%
Rentmeester     38279.42%
Debraske    1178.57%
Denil     8377.57%
Laluzerne     19976.54%
Williquette     244 76.25%
VanEgeren     10276.12%
Skenandore     378 76.06%
Vandehei     310 75.79%
VanLanen     36275.10%
Delveaux     124 74.25%
VanVonderen    75 73.53%
Watermolen     154 73.33%
Metoxen     19673.13%
Ditzman     21 72.41%
Derpinghaus    36 70.59%
VanEnkenvoort     2470.59%
Debauche     314 70.40%
Lecaptain     8270.08%
Eisch     16870.00%
Witbro     14 70.00%
Dachelet     10069.93%
VanSistine    74 69.16%
Lemerond     170 68.00%
Baeten     311 67.90%
Zimonick     37 66.07%
Golueke     5165.38%
Xolot    1365.00%
Pamperin     258 63.70%
Delaruelle     5463.53%
VanLaanen    16863.40%
Kazik     118 63.10%
Seroogy     5061.73%
Tappa     116 61.70%
Luchterhand     10660.57%
Gigot    78 59.09%
Truttmann     6458.72%
Smet     33157.97%
Peot     17857.23%
Joppe     2756.25%
Detrie     74 55.64%
Puissant     1954.29%
Denamur8154.00%
Mooren     8052.29%
Keuler     14451.99%
Gossens     61 51.69%
Berken     199 51.69%
Torinus     18 51.43%
Trinkner     5750.89%
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 11, 2018, 03:50:42 PM
The Cephus case is now going to trial. He'll never suit up as a Badger again now - no way they allow it. Kid f'd up big time. Cost himself a great education and possibly an NFL career. That's what thinking with the little head will get you. STUPID.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on September 15, 2018, 06:51:11 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 03, 2018, 03:55:26 PM
I'd like to think BYU is better than last year, but beating Arizona only means they beat Kevin Sumlin...
Maybe both? 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 15, 2018, 07:20:49 PM
At least we can put to bed this stuff about the offensive line.

Hornibrook wasn’t consistent enough. Taylor had a not special game when it turned out it was needed. But those are smaller things. 

Defense couldn’t hold up against the run. run game couldn’t be better than slightly functional. Don’t win against solid teams that way. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2018, 09:43:30 AM
That was a complete failure from top-to-bottom. UW was outcoached and outplayed, period. BYU punched them in the mouth and they couldn't punch back. This has to get fixed, quickly.


Losing Van Gickle really hurt the defense and losing Neuville really hurt the offense. Hopefully they can come back quickly. Gink was in a walking boot after halftime. Not good.


I expected a much-improved BYU team to show up. I certainly didn't expect a loss. One of my friends who watched it with me said he was shocked. I was not - more disappointed in the effort than anything else. Probably the worst loss of PC's career at UW.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2018, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: bayareabadger on September 15, 2018, 07:20:49 PM
At least we can put to bed this stuff about the offensive line. 
Too early to think that way. UW was not prepared yesterday, and that's on the coaching staff.
I'm much more worried about that DL than I am about the OL.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 16, 2018, 10:17:43 AM
It’s interesting, UW often has this game. I’ve watched it through the years. One that’s just not great. One where they’re behind the 8 ball against a team with think is worse. And most of the time they win ugly, and maybe it means something, maybe not. And sometimes, that game comes on a day where the other team makes enough plays and UW doesn’t.

It does remind me that the whole “going vanilla” thing is usually a way to excuse angst about not looking great rather than actual reflection of game plan. Those late 2000s teams had a few slow starts I dismissed that way, and it was a good lesson.

(FWIW, offensive plays work like this most often. You have your base plays. That’s over 80 percent of your in-game scheme. The stuff that changes game to game is smaller and subtle. Your base is what wins most games. The extra stuff is trying to get small edges here and there. There’s a few exceptions, but you need a good coach for it to work. Chryst vs OSU in 2016 was about the most extensive expansion of things, and it left Urby impressed)
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 16, 2018, 10:31:10 AM
I thought the play calling was mediocre at best. I think UW was a little surprised at how fast BYU was on the edges, but it seemed like they went away from that too quickly. Lots of up the middle stuff, and that didn't work well either. BYU was flying to the ball.


The other thing that surprised me was the clock management at the end of both halves. I thought UW could have used timeouts to get another crack late in the first, and I thought they should have used one after the Hornibrook scramble late in the 4th. I can't figure those out.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: SFBadger96 on September 16, 2018, 06:56:15 PM
Teams often lose games they shouldn't. That's what upsets are, and they happen all the time. That's also why unbeaten seasons are so rare. 

Nonetheless, this game wasn't really an outlier. The Badgers weren't especially impressive either of the first two weeks despite playing poor opposition. Playing still mediocre opposition this weekend, they failed. The real question is what happens from here. Is this who they are? A mediocre team that has a shot at the west because it isn't very good?

Or do they react to their exposed weaknesses and work hard to fix them, fulfilling their potential and fighting back into serious contention? Or are they somewhere in between: a really good team that's limited by injuries and a talent ceiling that just isn't that high?

We shall see. I've been saying since week one that they weren't looking impressive. I hope that this was the wake up call they needed. Otherwise, I'll remain happy that my fall Saturdays are dominated by my kids' soccer.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 17, 2018, 11:45:50 AM
BYU could be good - and could have been caught looking to this game as they lost to Cal a week earlier. They said this game was circled because of the 40-6 debacle in Provo last year. They have more chances to prove how good they are, or aren't. Washington in two weeks. Boise and Utah also on the schedule, among others. We'll see.


I'm not ready to write off UW by any stretch.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 18, 2018, 02:12:53 PM
Only the highest level of pearl clutching...

Headline: Chancellor doth declare: "Well...I never"


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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2018, 09:50:08 AM
UW-Madison clarifies it has 'no plans to stop offering athletics' after chancellor's testimony in NCAA amateurism lawsuit







https://madison.com/wsj/sports/college/uw-madison-clarifies-it-has-no-plans-to-stop-offering/article_ea634419-4fdf-5c4b-9bfa-31ef2054447d.html#utm_source=madison.com&utm_campaign=%2Femail%2Fbadgerbeat%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=0701DB267027A176132EF5C6A73A2B8F7659C27A

Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: MarqHusker on September 19, 2018, 11:18:50 AM
first, this is a nothingburger story.

However, me thinks the Chancellor and 'UW' ought to get on the same island.  Of course the lawyer in me sees the UW headline and thinks, well that statement doesn't exactly contradict the Chancellor.  The Chancellor says (or is attributed as saying) they are ('the') considering two options.   'UW' is attributed with saying that there are 'no plans to stop offering athletics.'   If spoken in the present tense, both statements could be true.  Amateurs aren't being paid, now, thus there are no plans to stop offering athletics.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 19, 2018, 11:32:21 AM
Oh yeah. It doesn't actually matter. It also isn't new. This language is straight from the Delany playbook. Beyond being a funny example of pearl clutching, it's only noteworthy because it is an awkward threat and a window into the prevailing psychology of university administrators on a topic (giving players access to their market value) that is gaining more and more tailwind every year.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2018, 11:37:44 AM
There will be an NFL minor league before college football players get paid. I can't wait.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 19, 2018, 12:49:36 PM
That kind of minor league already exists.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18449983/new-pacific-pro-football-league-debut-summer-2018

Unsurprisingly it is small, seemingly unpopular and won't do much if anything to change CFB's fate. That will continue to be primarily determined in court.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2018, 01:10:19 PM
Start a new thread please.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 19, 2018, 02:22:08 PM
No need. Unless you make another comment, we've already had the full conversation. But try not to be too agitated that it showed up here. Given the employer of the woman who gave the original quote, the first comment belonged in this thread.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Cincydawg on September 19, 2018, 02:47:49 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 17, 2018, 11:45:50 AM



I'm not ready to write off UW by any stretch.
No one should be, of course, but perhaps they are more a second ten team than top ten.
We'll see.  That L will hang over them even if they run the table.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 19, 2018, 03:32:18 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on September 19, 2018, 02:22:08 PM
No need. Unless you make another comment, we've already had the full conversation. But try not to be too agitated that it showed up here. Given the employer of the woman who gave the original quote, the first comment belonged in this thread.
I'm not annoyed, but this has got absolutely nothing to do with the 2018 Wisconsin football team. The stream would have been a better place, perhaps.
As for the BYU loss and how it affects UW, I guess time will tell. They have some pretty tough games on their schedule coming up to prove that they are very good, or not so good. What I do know is UW is not playing top 10 football at the present. It will have to moving forward if they want to reach the goals they set for themselves in January.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 19, 2018, 05:30:21 PM
The stream miiiight have been better, but this topic is about UW in 2018. Maybe this thread isn't perfect but it's close enough to fall within the realm of a judgment call. I'd have started a new one, but this board historically has a distaste for excessive new threads. Which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on September 20, 2018, 12:40:14 PM
I just saw that Wisconsin is 126th in standard down sack rate (101st in overall sack rate). What's the path forward? Are you confident or shaky it'll be fully fixed this year?
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2018, 01:21:54 PM
I think it can be fixed. From my view, many of the sacks are not on the OL but rather the QB holding the ball too long and the RB's missing their blocks. Those are fixable things. Most the OL seem to grade out very well, including this guy.

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Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: bayareabadger on September 20, 2018, 01:30:45 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2018, 01:21:54 PM
I think it can be fixed. From my view, many of the sacks are not on the OL but rather the QB holding the ball too long and the RB's missing their blocks. Those are fixable things. Most the OL seem to grade out very well, including this guy.

(https://media.profootballfocus.com/2018/09/1803-Draft-Board-29-Tyler-Biadasz.jpg)
Right tackle needs to start playing a bit better. Edge blocking was BAD in spots vs BYU.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on September 20, 2018, 01:41:41 PM
I agree with that. Edwards probably has the highest upside of them all. He played really well last year so I think he can still be a force.



Any word on Nueville? I have not seen an updated injury list.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 04, 2018, 11:35:28 AM
Damn. TE Zander Neuville is now out for the year. Injured a knee in practice. So that's that.


He is a redshirt senior, so maybe his only option would be to apply for a medical redshirt if he chooses to continue to play football. Not sure how those work these days but I know it seemed arbitrary in the past. Not sure if he's even eligible. I guess I'll look it up.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on October 04, 2018, 11:37:44 AM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 04, 2018, 11:35:28 AM
Damn. TE Zander Neuville is now out for the year. Injured a knee in practice. So that's that.


He is a redshirt senior, so maybe his only option would be to apply for a medical redshirt if he chooses to continue to play football. Not sure how those work these days but I know it seemed arbitrary in the past. Not sure if he's even eligible. I guess I'll look it up.
Assuming he played in 5 games, I would think he'd be done.  It was always fairly arbitrary, but I think that the games limit kills it pretty concretely.  The arbitrariness in the past was when a guy had two seasons that were under the threshold, and the first was clearly a planned redshirt year, but later claimed to be injury based.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 04, 2018, 12:15:08 PM
He only played in 3 games this season. Missed week one.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on October 04, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
new 4-game redshirt rule applies I would think
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: 847badgerfan on October 04, 2018, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: FearlessF on October 04, 2018, 12:21:33 PM
new 4-game redshirt rule applies I would think
He redshirted as a freshman, so that's out.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on October 04, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 04, 2018, 12:22:12 PM
He redshirted as a freshman, so that's out.
Unless they can argue he was injured, which is why he did.  MSU had that work with Ed Davis, who didn't injure himself during his redshirt year until like November.
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: Anonymous Coward on October 04, 2018, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: ELA on October 04, 2018, 12:29:35 PM
Unless they can argue he was injured, which is why he did.  MSU had that work with Ed Davis, who didn't injure himself during his redshirt year until like November.
I think it's possible that MSU has had more luck with getting 6th years than is normal. Not claiming impropriety. Just noting that it may be a bad predictor of success elsewhere. 
Title: Re: Wisconsin 2018 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on October 04, 2018, 12:55:26 PM
Quote from: Anonymous Coward on October 04, 2018, 12:41:49 PM
I think it's possible that MSU has had more luck with getting 6th years than is normal. Not claiming impropriety. Just noting that it may be a bad predictor of success elsewhere.
Because everyone knows college football is better when MSU is good.
The Ed Davis thing turned out not to matter, as I don't even think he was cleared until a few weeks into the season, and then was so slow he was useless, on a bad team.