Imagine trying to compete on an uneven playing field. CrazyIt has always been uneven, always.
By "processing", they mean denying scholarships to players who didn't work out?Yes, that's what "processing" is.
And you don't know if that is wrong?
It's a cut throat business obviously. I would favor four year scholarships except "for cause".
It has always been uneven, always.That's the point.
That's the point.no, that was not a tear in my eye
OSU fans complaining about level playing fields is funny.
If Saban and Alabama are violating NCAA rules cite us. If we are not stop crying.that's why I stated this........................
you could join the SEC
OR
you could have the Big Ten Commish change the rules again
I find it amazing and flabbergasting that Paul Bryant, Jr owns a bank in Tuscaloosa that hires people associated with the University of Alabama. I am equally amazed and flabbergasted that Bryant, from the most famous family in The University of Alabama history, is actually on the Board Of Trustees.I remember growing up, every bank and insurance agency in Ann Arbor had multiple former UM football players employed
I'll never understand bitching about non-rule breaking.It'd almost be like bitching about corporations that will do whatever they can legally to make a buck, even if it's not in the best interests of the customers...
Yes, that's what "processing" is.I mean, is there evidence they’re denying anyone a spot?
In theory, over time, you piss off enough recruits that "don't work out" that new recruits view you negatively, and so the system should self-correct. And if 87% of other schools processed in the same way, eventually that would happen.
But Alabama is currently a unique place. They're so good they're almost guaranteed to make the playoff in a given year, which recruits like. And they're also recruiting such a high caliber of athlete, that every single one of their recruits assumes "well that will never happen to me. I'll be a starter and a star."
And finally, of the players that DO make it through and don't get processed out, a ton of them ARE making it through to the next level. How many first rounders did they just have in the NFL draft? So, players are willing to take a little more risk, for the promise of higher rewards if they make it through.
I mean, is there evidence they’re denying anyone a spot?If anyone felt seriously wronged then I'd expect them to speak out about it. As bamajoe points out, there's really no evidence of this happening.
That’s the thing with recruiting super awesome kids. They all think they should play. And they all can’t. So you play the best, don’t play the less good kids, they think they can play somewhere else, they leave. They aren’t all Justin Fields, but a lot think they are.
It’s also weird because eventually they’re gonna get capped at 25 signees anyway, unless the NCAA changes that rule (which they’ll have to with the transfer stuff). The blue shirt is disappearing soon.
If anyone felt seriously wronged then I'd expect them to speak out about it. As bamajoe points out, there's really no evidence of this happening.Whining has never seemed to require much evidence.
Whining has never seemed to require much evidence.Case in point
If Saban and Alabama are violating NCAA rules cite us. If we are not stop crying.If those numbers are wrong prove it - or stop interrupting the discussion
I actually love how pissy you guys get when it's something that hinders the B1G (by choice). It's awesome.You can go find an another board where luminaries such as yourself are percolating 24/7
If those numbers are wrong prove it - or stop interrupting the discussionThe numbers may be completely accurate, and Bama might still not be in violation of any rules. It isn't an interruption to note that.
They called it player processing and a big deal.It that's accurate it explains alotWho is "they"? Eleven Warriors?
You can go find an another board where luminaries such as yourself are percolating 24/7I would run that by Drew before I made that statement.
You can go find an another board where luminaries such as yourself are percolating 24/7You can get out of 'Murcia if'n you don't like it!!!!! Why don't you try breathing through your nose.
If those numbers are wrong prove it - or stop interrupting the discussionIs someone trying to prove numbers that aren't in violation of anything?
Is someone trying to prove numbers that aren't in violation of anything?Has anyone but one poster said they had a problem with it?
This is so thoroughly bizarre.
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It's like B1G fans are mad Alabama put on shoes to run a race when the rules don't say you must run barefoot. W in T actual F?
Alabama is a football factory. This whole topic is wholely unremarkable to me.
Who is "they"? Eleven Warriors?Processing has been a term for a while. OSU bad Michigan have been accused of it at different points. As has much of the SEC. Badger fans have jokingly called it Creaning or getting Buzz Cut to mock Marquette. I think Marquette fans called it getting BOned when UW did it at points.
Because a quick Google Search suggests that the only link I can find to the phrase "player processing" relating to Alabama is on Eleven Warriors.
So you're quoting a random Buckeye blog that may or may not have made up this term and called something a national rival is doing a "big deal"... All this when they have sour grapes that highly-touted LB transfer picks the Tide over them.
The numbers may be accurate--I'm certainly not one to dispute. But Eleven Warriors did very little BEYOND just quoting the numbers... They certainly didn't even state outright that Alabama was doing something nefarious, just that it seems more players overall have gone through Alabama in a 5-year period.
So what is "player processing", a term I haven't seen defined elsewhere, and why is it a big deal and/or a bad thing?
the only problem I have with it is........... Frost isn't doing the same thing at UNLYou want them to cycle through MORE Scott Frost-quality recruits. Glutton for punishment you are.
Processing has been a term for a while. OSU bad Michigan have been accused of it at different points. As has much of the SEC. Badger fans have jokingly called it Creaning or getting Buzz Cut to mock Marquette. I think Marquette fans called it getting BOned when UW did it at points.
I’m sure every school does it to a degree, with different levels of touch. I’m somewhat doubting that Bama is doing it to some kind of extreme degree, and if they are, the kids aren’t talking about it.
processing does sound much better than "over Signing"Is the term "processing" derived from Bama specifically? After all, Saban is all about "the process"?
Is the term "processing" derived from Bama specifically? After all, Saban is all about "the process"?I wouldn’t think so. I thought it was just a get Atl term. Like you oversigned back in the day, then processed people out.
I've heard of Creaning--we got a few good years out of that at Purdue before he got canned at IU.
Anyone whining about it is simply jealous. If anyone should be whining, it's me. It affects Florida a helluva lot more than it does any B1G program.That's why I'm not that worried about it...
In fact, it might even sometimes help a team like Purdue. If we have a position of need for an Alabama backup who will never see the field in Tuscaloosa, they can transfer to Purdue and be a bigger superstar than anyone we've got on our roster. I'll take Bama's sloppy seconds in an instant lol...That's what I just posted above. MSU just got a transfer today from Alabama who was running with the 2s. I'd be shocked if he's not starting Day 1 in East Lansing. That's a business decision for him, works out well for MSU, and Alabama has an open space for a higher ceiling freshman, than a 4th year sophomore.
except for MrNubbzI just quoted it appears the Tide landed and average of 4 more per cycle according to the numbers presented.Obviously someone wasn't in the same math class as Lawrence Phillips
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I would run that by Drew before I made that statement.That was quoted/directed at someone who doesn't mind pissing in the punch bowl