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Title: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 03, 2021, 12:01:26 PM
Your thoughts?




Title: Re: The 2022 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 03, 2021, 12:03:16 PM
For reference, the preseason rankings I've glanced at include the usual:

Clemson Bama Oklahoma  Ohio State UGA UNC Florida Michigan Texas A&M and varied others, including Iowa State.

Title: Re: The 2022 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 12:05:05 PM
I predict that having never, EVER been there before, Iowa State will struggle with the expectations.  Like losing 2 games they're easily favored in.
Title: Re: The 2022 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2021, 12:08:13 PM
What are the collective thoughts on the 2021 season coming up?
Title: Re: The 2022 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2021, 12:13:58 PM
I predict that having never, EVER been there before, Iowa State will struggle with the expectations.  Like losing 2 games they're easily favored in.
Like Texas and OU???
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 12:26:59 PM
Well with the few players who got drafted from those 2, they should be fully-stocked for this coming year, no?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 03, 2021, 12:29:54 PM
I believe it will be normal with tailgating and full capacities. I think that by September, we won't see masks much. If we do, it will mean something terrible has happened with a new variant and/or vaccine inefficacy, and I would like to remain optimistic and hope that doesn't happen. That said, that will be my only COVID-related contribution to this thread. I assume others may disagree, but I'm not going to debate it.

Don't care about the top ten. I'm a Purdue fan lol...

Plus for my team is a new DC, because Diaco was a huge mistake. George Karlaftis being healthy should help too. Hopefully the OL is finally starting to round into form, because it was a dumpster fire when Brohm arrived and he's been piecing it together ever since. Minus is that after all the years of Brohm, we still have no freakin' clue who is going to be behind center. Also that we are EXTREMELY thin at RB. One of our top guys transferred out after getting busted for carrying weed while driving. Prediction [hope] is that we're basically a top-40 team and that we can finish with a bowl-eligible record. 7-5 would be wonderful.

Wisconsin at home. Yeah, I know I should say OSU, or even ND, which are both road games. But we haven't beaten Wisconsin since 2003. I won't believe we can until we do. 

Eh on the final two questions for the same as the other top ten question. I haven't had time to get my finger on the pulse of anyone other that Purdue this year.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 03, 2021, 12:38:20 PM
I think it will look fairly similar to the current MLB season.  Some variations on capacity, from full crowds in some places, to 33-50% in others.  I think tailgating will probably be normal, as for any non-school sanctioned tailgating.

I think we might have kids/coaches miss games, but I don't think we'll have any games outright cancelled due to mass outbreaks/contact tracing.

I *hope* I'll find myself more engaged, after struggling to do so with the makeshift sports over the past 14 months.  I've noticed this normalish MLB season has been the first time I've gotten into more of my pre-COVID mindset, and that's with an absolute trash Tigers offense to root for.  I never got into last college football season at all.  Starting in late October, games with absolutely zero environment, games getting cancelled.  It was always just background noise for me, and college basketball felt similar.  I'm hoping college football *feels* normal.

As for a top 10?  Who knows.  The tip top, is always the same.  Behind that, that's why I didn't even bother with a countdown this year.  I don't know what was real and what wasn't last year.  It's impossible to track the rosters right now with the transfer portal.

For MSU, the biggest pluses I think are the upgrades at RB.  Jordan Simmons looked really good at times as a freshman.  Elijah Collins had a good 2019, before struggling last year with the after-effects of COVID.  If he's back to 100% that's a solid 1-2 punch, before even considering the portal additions from Wake Forest and Auburn.  The WF kid particularly, I think is very good.  Granted, if the OL isn't MASSIVELY better, it won't matter.  The biggest worry is the secondary, which is crazy to think from how recent the No Fly Zone was.  6 of the 8 in the two deep either graduated, transferred, or went pro early.  Outside of Kalon Gervin, it is nothing but question marks.  The Spring Game did nothing to make MSU fans feel better about the situation.

Toughest out?  It's always Ohio State

Positive surprise teams?  I think Miami and Washington, while maybe not making people think its 1991, could be top 6-10 type teams.

Negative surprise?  I don't like Notre Dame's roster much at all.  I don't know what their schedule looks like, but I could easily see them going from CFP to 9-4
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 12:41:19 PM
Florida is going to look a lot like Mullen at MSU with Fitzgerald at QB, but with a better passer at QB.  We're stupid-deep at RB.  We have 2 athletes at QB with cannons for arms.  Hell, I'd say we'd be like that Auburn team that ran wild on everyone in '13, except I'm not sure about our OL.  Skill-position wise, we should run the ball 70% of the time.  
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Defense is a crapshoot, because it was the worst one ever last year.  Literally.  
We have an all-SEC type DE, MLB, and CB.  We have 300 lbers inside.  Our other DBs scare me, tbh.  We get to play Alabama and LSU this year, so that's fun.  We could beat UGA again and still lose the East.  
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We're at 10-2/9-3, something like that.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 03, 2021, 12:44:04 PM
And here I thought that ELA was going to drop his entire preseason rankings on us all at once. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 12:47:20 PM
ND:
@ FSU (very down, but they didn't know that when they scheduled this, I'm assuming)
Toledo!
Purdue
Wiscy @ Soldier Field Spaceship Stadium
Cincinnata
@ VT
bye.............oh yeah, they get to schedule their own byes.....another advantage
USC
UNC
Navy........if you're counting, yes, that's 2 true road games in their first 9
@ UVA
GT
@ Stanford
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I can BLINDLY pick an SEC team and they'll have a much tougher slate.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 03, 2021, 12:51:04 PM
No SEC team is going to have fewer than three non-P5 opponents on their slate, and instead of Cincinnati, Toledo and Navy, the SEC teams will have scheduled their non-P5 games against FCS HBCUs. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 03, 2021, 12:52:47 PM
And my claim will still hold true......that's the point, lol.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 03, 2021, 12:57:47 PM
No SEC team is going to have fewer than three non-P5 opponents on their slate, and instead of Cincinnati, Toledo and Navy, the SEC teams will have scheduled their non-P5 games against FCS HBCUs.
UGA plays Tech and Clemson OOC, then UAB and Charleston Southern.  If you count Tech as a P5, that means they have fewer than 3 non-P5 opponents.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 03, 2021, 12:59:20 PM


Notre Dame isn't Bama or Clemson, but they are certainly comparable to an Oklahoma. Yet we are talking about them as though they are as hapless and washed up as the Wolverines.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2021, 01:03:45 PM
I know you're just trying to touch all the bases here, but the Husker's sched it tougher.

Well, it's at least arguable 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2021, 01:55:55 PM
I believe the Badgers will be much improved this coming season. 

The only position group that truly concerns me right now is tailback. How is that possible at Wisconsin? There is very little depth behind starter Jalen Berger, and he was banged up all spring, as were many of the other backs. It got so bad that they were running tailback plays with fullbacks, for God's sake.

Paul Chryst has taken back the play calling, which is great. He is now also the QB coach, which is also great.

The OL is stacked with talent. No worries at all here.
WR is much deeper this season than last. Need to stay healthy though.
TE's will be solid, if not very good.

On defense, there's not too much concern, except possibly depth at the DE position. Sounds like that will be fixed.
The LB positions are stacked to the point UW just lost their top 2020 prospect.
CB is pretty deep, as is safety.

Jim Leonhard is not coaching CB's anymore - only Safety. This will free him up to coach the rest of the defense more.

I do like the look of this team. I am expecting 9-3/10-2 at this time.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 03, 2021, 02:10:51 PM
I know you're just trying to touch all the bases here, but the Husker's sched it tougher.

Well, it's at least arguable
oops,

Nebraska has finalized its 2021 football schedule with the addition of a matchup against the Fordham Rams on Sept. 4 at Memorial Stadium. The game against Fordham replaces a previously scheduled game with Southeastern Louisiana on Nov. 13.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 03, 2021, 02:15:57 PM
I believe the Badgers will be much improved this coming season.

The only position group that truly concerns me right now is tailback. How is that possible at Wisconsin? There is very little depth behind starter Jalen Berger, and he was banged up all spring, as were many of the other backs. It got so bad that they were running tailback plays with fullbacks, for God's sake.
I think SP+ has them as a top 10 team, so I can't disagree.

Granted the bolded part sounds like a UW fan's dream
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 03, 2021, 02:37:30 PM
What does the S&P 500 have to do with any of this?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 03, 2021, 04:06:26 PM
I have this crazy notion Wisconsin will probably be able to run on most opponents.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 03, 2021, 04:27:11 PM
The Angry Wisconsin RB Hating God? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 06, 2021, 01:01:57 PM
The 2021 season in MSP will certainly be back to full capacity, given that restrictions are coming off between now and Memorial Day weekend. It sounds like we're going to be back down at the East River Flats, with a few modifications to come.

No idea on Top 10.

Minuses on the Gophers are a severe case of butter fingers in the WR corps. Plus is that the top 8 OL from 2019 are all back, with Mo Ibrahim ready to roll behind them. Tanner Morgan's protection last year was terrible. 

Like ELA, most sports since March 2020 have been reduced to background noise. I hope to be more engaged come August. It doesn't help that all the major Minnesota sports teams stink and need wholesale rebuilds. Who knows, maybe a full season behind the plate will help resolve this.

As for schedule, three tough games: Ohio State right off the top, @ Iowa, and Wisconsin. Ohio State is the defending league champion, the Gophs haven't won at Mordor since the Clinton administration, and Wisconsin is Wisconsin.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 06, 2021, 02:15:24 PM
I'm kinda thinking A&M may be a 9-4 kind of bust. I'm not sold on UNC being so high either.

Has Miami or FSU have some shot at being decent?  Been hearing that for years now.

UGA should be solid if the QB continues to progress, they may be the only upper level program with a starter returning at QB.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 06, 2021, 02:23:43 PM
Which team will rise the most? 

Which team will fall the farthest? 

In the Big Ten Penn St and Michigan have plenty of room/capability to rise, while Indiana and Northwestern could come crashing back down to Earth. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 06, 2021, 02:26:26 PM
Here in Texico at least, I think stadiums will be up to 100% and fans will be tailgating. It'll feel pretty normal I expect.

I actually went to one game last year and even with the crowd spaced out and masks on, once the action got going, it felt pretty normal.  Entrance and egress were a lot easier than usual with so many fewer fans, and no tailgating/partying going on around the stadium.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 06, 2021, 02:37:19 PM
I think a fair number of fans when its full make little noise, so when it's at 30% or so, those present might be the 30% who make most of the noise anyway.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 06, 2021, 03:18:32 PM
Has Miami or FSU have some shot at being decent?  Been hearing that for years now.
FSU?  No.

Miami?  I think so.  If the goal is "decent".  Granted the schedule isn't super friendly.  They play Michigan State non-con...as their third toughest non-con game (behind Alabama and Appalachian State).  Can't criticize the Canes for ducking anyone.  Then in conference, they have to play UNC, Pitt and Florida State all on the road.  Then, at the end they get to face Clemson in the ACC title game, if they make it.  They could be an 8-4 team that the computers love.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on May 06, 2021, 03:47:31 PM
And my claim will still hold true......that's the point, lol.
I think ND's schedule is . . . interesting. 

It isn't complete garbage. There are a slew of decent teams and the worst teams aren't all that bad which I think was @Brutus Buckeye (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=31) point. Toledo is probably the worst of the bunch and the Rockets are vastly better than a lot of the FCS dumpster 🔥 that you see as the worst teams on a typical SEC team's schedule. 

OTOH, if the Irish are anything like a legitimate NC contender then there isn't much scary on their schedule unless Wisconsin,  VaTech, USC, or a random surprise are much better than expected. 

I see it as a weird schedule because an NC contender should easily go at least 11-1 against it but a borderline top-25 quality team might struggle to go .500 because nearly every game could be competitive. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 06, 2021, 03:50:25 PM
Your thoughts?


  • Will it seem fairly normal with tailgating and full capacities?
  • What does your top ten look like at the moment?
  • What are pluses and minuses for your team, and where would you rank them?
  • What is the toughest out on your schedule?
  • What is a sleeper team quasi-forgotten you think could make a run for the top ten?
  • What is an asleep highly regarded team you think could slide to 9-4ish?



Yes

Bama
Clemson
Ohio St.
Oklahoma
Georgia
Iowa st.
North Carolina
Florida
Wisconsin
Indiana

Husker + = Defense - Dbacks and Dline - Oline and returning QB - TEs
Husker - = Special teams - runningback WRs
Rank #3 in the West

Toughest out? = Ohio St & at Wisconsin
sleeper?  Iowa St. or Indiana
asleep?  Notre Dame or A&M
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 06, 2021, 05:12:05 PM


I see it as a weird schedule because an NC contender should easily go at least 11-1 against it but a borderline top-25 quality team might struggle to go .500 because nearly every game could be competitive.
All that is fair.  
But I don't see the utility in differentiating between teams that aren't going to beat you.  Whether it's Toldedo or UTEP or Wofford....it's an easy win.  Yes, teams screw around and it's closer than it should be or there's a RARE outright upset, but they're so infrequent that they're not statisictally significant.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 06, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
Toledo has collected quite a few P5 scalps over the years.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 06, 2021, 05:59:43 PM
I agree whether you play an upper level G5 team or FCS, a top flight P5 will have their way with either, perhaps excepting the very two two of the G5s.  Perhaps.

Cincy certainly took UGA to the last second, literally, last year, and UGA, while not elite, was pretty decent.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Mdot21 on May 06, 2021, 06:28:59 PM
Honestly- with Michigan falling off the cliff from it's 2016 peak and sucking ass- to Ohio State just running roughshod and steam-rolling the entire B1G- to Clemson/BAMA swapping MNC titles year after year - completely losing interest in the damn sport. Might not even watch CFB in 2021.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 06, 2021, 06:42:56 PM
Honestly- with Michigan falling off the cliff from it's 2016 peak and sucking ass- to Ohio State just running roughshod and steam-rolling the entire B1G- to Clemson/BAMA swapping MNC titles year after year - completely losing interest in the damn sport. Might not even watch CFB in 2021.
Ahh... #helmetteamproblems

If my interest in the sport was related to the chances of my team winning the MNC... 

...I'd never have gotten interested at all.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 06, 2021, 06:53:27 PM
The Wolverines were a title contender for most of 2018. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 06, 2021, 06:57:09 PM
It is interesting how some Blue Blood and near that programs are, well, down well below their traditional standards.

USC  Miami  FSU  Tennessee  Texas  Michigan  Eastern Michigan  Auburn a bit  

Nobody has exactly replaced them near the top quite yet, I think.  Clemson obviously ... 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MaximumSam on May 06, 2021, 07:55:56 PM
I haven't really crunched the numbers or looked seen an article about it, but I wonder if the extra year might give us some more parity this year? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 06, 2021, 08:46:23 PM
The Wolverines were a title contender for most of 2018.
How quickly things can change.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 06, 2021, 10:25:27 PM
I don't put much stock in 2020. 

Harbaugh can lead them back to the glory days of 2016.

(https://i.imgur.com/TuvoTwJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 06, 2021, 11:38:48 PM
Ahh... #helmetteamproblems

If my interest in the sport was related to the chances of my team winning the MNC...

...I'd never have gotten interested at all.
I don't care if my team is involved, but it doesn't feel like many teams are involved.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Mdot21 on May 07, 2021, 12:23:59 AM
I don't care if my team is involved, but it doesn't feel like many teams are involved.
this. not a helmet team problem. 

just sick of the whole thing if I already know how it pans out. 

Ohio State will steam roll the B1G, Bama or Clemson will win the title.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2021, 07:33:20 AM
I've mentioned before how "nice" it might be to be a fan of "Kansas State".  You are occasionally decent, 8-5 or 9-4, play in a semimiddlin' bowl game and are thrilled to be there, you tailgate and party etc. and have fun and if they lose, meh.

They also had a really nice coach for a while.  If you  had this philosophy and could somehow choose, who would you pick?  Stanford could be an option.  Teams like South Carolina have too rabid fans with expectations.  Miami is boring.  Ole Miss would be good, trust me.

Indiana would be a nice pick, the town is nice.  Washington?  Might be too occasionally good.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 07, 2021, 08:39:34 AM
I've mentioned before how "nice" it might be to be a fan of "Kansas State".  You are occasionally decent, 8-5 or 9-4, play in a semimiddlin' bowl game and are thrilled to be there, you tailgate and party etc. and have fun and if they lose, meh.

They also had a really nice coach for a while.  If you  had this philosophy and could somehow choose, who would you pick?  Stanford could be an option.  Teams like South Carolina have too rabid fans with expectations.  Miami is boring.  Ole Miss would be good, trust me.

Indiana would be a nice pick, the town is nice.  Washington?  Might be too occasionally good.
I think the other nice thing about Kansas State/Indiana is that it's not like you have a football power as a rival.  I think MSU fans *would* be similar, except they always end up getting compared to UM.  Same with like a Georgia Tech or Virginia
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 09:26:07 AM
this. not a helmet team problem.

just sick of the whole thing if I already know how it pans out.

Ohio State will steam roll the B1G, Bama or Clemson will win the title.
be patient - things will change
maybe not this season, but....... some season.  You won't want to miss it.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 09:42:50 AM
"In golf? - Nick Saban responds to Jimbo Fisher's prediction that Texas A&M will beat Alabama this season
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2021, 09:50:15 AM
I think the other nice thing about Kansas State/Indiana is that it's not like you have a football power as a rival.  I think MSU fans *would* be similar, except they always end up getting compared to UM.  Same with like a Georgia Tech or Virginia
Good point, though I'm not sure Tech has a rival of any note.  I'm thinking of a program located with pretty good fall weather and a nice campus with modest aspirations and great tailgating, Ole Miss would be a good choice I think.

But I rebel against that.

Is anybody in the Pac looking decent this year?  I quit even looking.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 07, 2021, 09:51:43 AM
Honestly- with Michigan falling off the cliff from it's 2016 peak and sucking ass- to Ohio State just running roughshod and steam-rolling the entire B1G- to Clemson/BAMA swapping MNC titles year after year - completely losing interest in the damn sport. Might not even watch CFB in 2021.
Good Post it's always more rivoting when there is ballance.I preferred it when MSU/M/UW/PSU etc are in the mix.It's great when the contest is in question with time ticking off - my fingernails,sanity & Jim Beam disappear
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 07, 2021, 10:29:39 AM
I've mentioned before how "nice" it might be to be a fan of "Kansas State".  You are occasionally decent, 8-5 or 9-4, play in a semimiddlin' bowl game and are thrilled to be there, you tailgate and party etc. and have fun and if they lose, meh.

They also had a really nice coach for a while.  If you  had this philosophy and could somehow choose, who would you pick?  Stanford could be an option.  Teams like South Carolina have too rabid fans with expectations.  Miami is boring.  Ole Miss would be good, trust me.

Indiana would be a nice pick, the town is nice.  Washington?  Might be too occasionally good.
The problem with a team like Indiana is that it's too far down the bottom of the barrel. It's not a lot of fun cheering for a team that is going to typically go 3-9 or 4-8... Yeah, they've been on an uptick lately, but we'll see if it's sustainable. When they're 3-9 or 4-8, though, it becomes too apathetic.

You want a team that can win some games, but isn't good enough that their expectations (a bowl game, not the conference championship or MNC) aren't dashed by any single loss.

Looking at a list online of the longest active bowl streaks, I could see OkSU and Virginia Tech as potential programs in this category. Given that OkSU will always be "little brother" to OU, I'm going to go with VT.

I can't remember the last time they were nationally relevant, but clearly with a streak of going to a bowl the last 27 years, they haven't sucked either. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 10:34:27 AM
You want a team that can win some games, but isn't good enough that their expectations (a bowl game, not the conference championship or MNC) aren't dashed by any single loss.

Looking at a list online of the longest active bowl streaks, I could see OkSU and Virginia Tech as potential programs in this category. Given that OkSU will always be "little brother" to OU, I'm going to go with VT.
Iowa Hawkeyes???  Northwestern Wildcats?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 10:50:07 AM
Fall camp might look different this season depending on what the NCAA decides in the coming weeks.

From Sports Illustrated’s Ross Dellenger:

In response to results from a five-year concussion study released earlier this spring, an NCAA legislative committee is deeply exploring ways to make the annual August camp a safer place, officials told Sports Illustrated in interviews this week. The Football Oversight Committee (FOC), college football’s highest policy-making group, plans to present recommendations soon that will significantly change one of football’s most grueling traditions.

Committee members are considering a reduction of full-padded camp practices (from 21 to eight), the complete abolishment of collision exercises (such as the “Oklahoma” drill) and limiting a team to two scrimmages per camp (lowered from three and a half).

Those potential changes have drawn the ire of the college football community of late, but Frost was rather diplomatic when asked about them Thursday night.

“Safety of our players has got to be the primary concern and everybody’s priority,” he said. “That being said, I’d hate to think we’re following the NFL at every step.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 10:55:45 AM
The Utes would be a good one for CD's exercise, at least for myself. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 07, 2021, 10:56:31 AM
Iowa Hawkeyes???  Northwestern Wildcats?
I don't know that Northwestern works... First, even when they're good, nobody cares. Due to Chicago being the magnet city of Big Ten country, they also find themselves being the team that plays 12 "away" games every season because the visiting fans are such a high proportion of their ticket sales. And because they're a small nerdy school, I'm not sure their tailgate game is all that impressive...

I could see Iowa fitting into the "good but not that good" category though. That's a good one.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 07, 2021, 10:58:26 AM
I also think the ability to attend games matters.

If I went back to East Lansing for every home game, tailgated, met up with college friends, hit up some of the campus restaurants, I'd be more ok with mediocrity than when it's just a weekly obligation on my couch.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2021, 11:01:13 AM
The Utes would be a good one for CD's exercise, at least for myself.
Two what?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 07, 2021, 01:09:17 PM
I also think the ability to attend games matters.

If I went back to East Lansing for every home game, tailgated, met up with college friends, hit up some of the campus restaurants, I'd be more ok with mediocrity than when it's just a weekly obligation on my couch.
THIS

I think a big reason why I still care about Gopher football is that I lived within 90 minutes of campus for every season but one (that was 2007, and I met most of you that fall).
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 01:11:38 PM
I don't know that Northwestern works... First, even when they're good, nobody cares. Due to Chicago being the magnet city of Big Ten country, they also find themselves being the team that plays 12 "away" games every season because the visiting fans are such a high proportion of their ticket sales. And because they're a small nerdy school, I'm not sure their tailgate game is all that impressive...

I could see Iowa fitting into the "good but not that good" category though. That's a good one.
It is when Badger fans are there. :)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 01:13:49 PM
I bet that you can get a pretty mean hot dog at a Northwestern tailgate.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 01:41:25 PM
I've mentioned before how "nice" it might be to be a fan of "Kansas State".  You are occasionally decent, 8-5 or 9-4, play in a semimiddlin' bowl game and are thrilled to be there, you tailgate and party etc. and have fun and if they lose, meh.

They also had a really nice coach for a while.  If you  had this philosophy and could somehow choose, who would you pick?  Stanford could be an option.  Teams like South Carolina have too rabid fans with expectations.  Miami is boring.  Ole Miss would be good, trust me.

Indiana would be a nice pick, the town is nice.  Washington?  Might be too occasionally good.
The Kansas State fans that Fearless and I know from another site long ago, got their hopes pegged quite high in the 90s, and now refer to pretty much every season as "a bitterly disappointing kick in the nuts."

So, I'm not sure KSU fits the bill.

Maybe someone with success much further in the past like... Minnesota?

(no offense GR!)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 07, 2021, 01:56:04 PM
I bet that you can get a pretty mean hot dog at a Northwestern tailgate.
Mustard's Last Stand is right across the way from Dyche Stadium, assuming it made it through COVID.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 02:02:55 PM
The Kansas State fans that Fearless and I know from another site long ago, got their hopes pegged quite high in the 90s, and now refer to pretty much every season as "a bitterly disappointing kick in the nuts."

So, I'm not sure KSU fits the bill.

Maybe someone with success much further in the past like... Minnesota?

(no offense GR!)

the kitties say, "It was great while it lasted"

about what Husker fans remember
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 02:10:43 PM
Mustard's Last Stand is right across the way from Dyche Stadium, assuming it made it through COVID.
I was gonna mention that place. You beat me to it.


Ultimate Tailgate – Mustard's Last Stand (mustardschicago.com)


I (https://mustardschicago.com/ultimate-tailgate/) think they made it. Takeout alone would support them.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 02:13:48 PM
Has anyone ever attempted to put Chicago hot dog toppings on a Chicago style pizza? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 02:21:29 PM
Can you order the Chicago dog without the tomato wedges? Or would that be viewed as some sort of a major diss? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 02:22:33 PM
Nope. Would never do that.

One thing I do all the time, however, is put the Chicago Italian Beef ingredients on a NY thin crust pizza.

That is a killer pizza.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 02:26:33 PM
Can you order the Chicago dog without the tomato wedges? Or would that be viewed as some sort of a major diss?
Yes. Not all Chicago dogs have tomato (or pickle or celery salt).

What defines a Chicago dog is the simmered Vienna sausage, yellow mustard, neon green relish, onions and sport peppers, on a steamed bun. AND NO KETCHUP.

The best can be found here.


https://geneandjudes.com (https://geneandjudes.com/)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 02:27:45 PM
no ketchup

ever
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 02:30:25 PM
I like ketchup on fries.  Pretty much nothing else though.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 02:30:43 PM
Yeah I knew that ketchup would get you blacklisted/shot, which is why I asked. 

I don't like ketchup on a dog either, but if I had to pick between that and an actual slimly tomato... I'm choking it down with ketchup. 

Is it impossible to get a proper Chicago dog outside of Chicago, like it is with the Chicago pizza? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 02:32:40 PM
the kitties say, "It was great while it lasted"

about what Husker fans remember
Ski might say that, but WC4E is a bitter, bitter man. :)

I wonder what KSL has to say about it, ever talk to her these days?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 02:36:26 PM
unfortunately, no.  Haven't heard from the Lady in a few years

I still poke Ski and forever from time to time.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 07, 2021, 02:43:01 PM
Ketchup on hot dogs isn't terrible.

Raw onions on hot dogs >> fried onions on hit dogs.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 02:48:59 PM
any kinda onion is great on a dog or a sausage
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 07, 2021, 02:50:01 PM
My basic dog is mustard, onion, and kraut if I can get it.  Just M&O is adequate.

I've taken to buying more expensive hot dogs, I think they are better.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 02:50:25 PM
I like raw onions on a chili dog for sure. 

I'd put grilled onions on a standard hot dog though, or on a sausage wrap.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 02:51:23 PM
Yeah I knew that ketchup would get you blacklisted/shot, which is why I asked.

I don't like ketchup on a dog either, but if I had to pick between that and an actual slimly tomato... I'm choking it down with ketchup.

Is it impossible to get a proper Chicago dog outside of Chicago, like it is with the Chicago pizza?
(https://i.imgur.com/MTA4BPy.png)

Lou Malnati's has locations outside of Illinois - Arizona, Indiana, Wisconsin.

Can also order here. They (and many other Chicago spots) ship to where you live.


Ship Chicago Food & Gifts Nationwide | Tastes of Chicago

I (https://www.tastesofchicago.com/)'ve done quite a bit of this.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 02:51:52 PM
kraut is preferred

with black pepper and brown mustard
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 02:55:45 PM
The Yella mustard is a little disappointing. I had just assumed that it would be brown mustard.

I would also want cheese on a dog.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 07, 2021, 03:02:00 PM
cheese is good
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
A friend of mine married a Brazilian girl, and we like to get together with them to watch international soccer.  Our first time over, she made us "Brazilian hot dogs" and we were hooked.  Now we insist on them every time.  She's okay with it, as long as I bring plenty of cachaca.

(https://i.imgur.com/8vfRbPn.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 07, 2021, 03:37:17 PM
What the heck is on that monster?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 07, 2021, 05:51:42 PM
What the heck is on that monster?
Corn, green peas, tomato and onion stewed mixture, shoestring fries, grated parmesan cheese.  They put all sorts of crazy stuff on them down there, they'll add bacon or ham or even ground beef (think, taco filling).  Their street vendors serve you the wiener and bun, and then they have a huge assortment of condiments to add.  The dogs themselves are stewed with the onion/tomato mixture.

On that picture that I just pulled off the internet, I can't tell if that's sour cream or a ton of mayo.  I've never seen sour cream on one, though, my friend's wife doesn't serve them that way, anyway.  She does eat hers with both mayo and mustard, so that's how I eat them, too.

They're different, but really tasty. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 07, 2021, 06:54:09 PM
Humphrey Bogart once pointed out that “A hot dog at the ballpark is better than a steak at the Ritz,”

Cleveland Area still has many ethnic enclaves(slovenian,polish,slovak,german,italian,czech,etc) that make sausages fresh.Slowly grilled, indirect heat,oiled cases that shouldn't be allowed to burst.Take a fresh multi-grain,seeded bun/roll,brown spicy mustard of choice,with raw onion,washed down with a cold sweating frothy beverage - eaten proper over the sink or in the back yard weather permitting

Bertman’s memorable spicy brown mustard, used at League Park, Cleveland Municipal Stadium, Jacob’s Field, and now Progressive Field for over 90 years,
(https://i.imgur.com/bsdVfQm.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 07, 2021, 06:58:49 PM
Yeah I knew that ketchup would get you blacklisted/shot, which is why I asked.

I don't like ketchup on a dog either, but if I had to pick between that and an actual slimly tomato... I'm choking it down with ketchup.

Is it impossible to get a proper Chicago dog outside of Chicago, like it is with the Chicago pizza?
Pretty close to impossible, unless it's a shop owned by a transplant. That's how I found ONE legit deep dish joint here in SoCal and ONE good Italian Beef shop.

But at least Portillo's now has a location out here in SoCal so I can get my hot dogs.

If a place doesn't get Vienna Beef, it's not a real Chicago dog. Pretty much every other ingredient can be found locally in most of the US. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 07:00:01 PM




(https://i.imgur.com/bsdVfQm.png)





Yes, the Cleveland "Stadium Mustard" is the cat's pajamas.

I have yet to find a suitable replacement.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 07, 2021, 07:13:35 PM
Pretty close to impossible, unless it's a shop owned by a transplant. That's how I found ONE legit deep dish joint here in SoCal and ONE good Italian Beef shop.

But at least Portillo's now has a location out here in SoCal so I can get my hot dogs.

If a place doesn't get Vienna Beef, it's not a real Chicago dog. Pretty much every other ingredient can be found locally in most of the US.


We actually have a restaurant here that sells them. I haven't tried one yet, but I bet it is delicious because their burgers and sandwiches just slam. I wouldn't be able to vouch for it's authenticity, but it looks rather spot on to the pic that Badge posted.

(https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/12273781_1071401622870889_7987602631979172700_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=6e5ad9&_nc_ohc=C05MYPMy-pgAX-kcLiu&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=264c886db0f567547561522bdeec457a&oe=60BC55CC)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 07, 2021, 07:15:03 PM
Yes, the Cleveland "Stadium Mustard" is the cat's pajamas.

I have yet to find a suitable replacement.
Actually "Stadium Mustard" and BallPark Mustard are two different brands.Though have local ties both sold nationally.The Stadium Mustard is a little spicier the other a bit sweeter
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 07, 2021, 07:34:41 PM

We actually have a restaurant here that sells them. I haven't tried one yet, but I bet it is delicious because their burgers and sandwiches just slam. I wouldn't be able to vouch for it's authenticity, but it looks rather spot on to the pic that Badge posted.

[img width=259.091 height=335]https://scontent-den4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.18172-8/12273781_1071401622870889_7987602631979172700_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=6e5ad9&_nc_ohc=C05MYPMy-pgAX-kcLiu&_nc_ht=scontent-den4-1.xx&oh=264c886db0f567547561522bdeec457a&oe=60BC55CC[/img]
Mustard doesn't look right, but otherwise looks familiar.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2021, 08:39:04 AM
Mustard doesn't look right, but otherwise looks familiar.
I think that mustard looks right. It's the celery salt throwing you off??
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 08, 2021, 08:39:43 AM
In 2021 Football season news, this is really good news because the commish is a dumbass.

(https://i.imgur.com/kC2pkfA.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 08, 2021, 07:05:48 PM
my go to mustard................


(https://store.mustardmuseum.com/images/uploads/200_3417_popup.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 08, 2021, 11:16:32 PM
Northwestern Wildcats

Northwestern’s cupboard of backs and receivers is not full, but it rarely is. The defense must replace linebackers Paddy Fisher and Blake Gallagher, edge rusher Earnest Brown and Newsome. That’s a productive quartet. Couple those losses with a new defensive coordinator, and perhaps Northwestern doesn’t deserve to be a Big Ten West preseason favorite.

Until you look at the schedule — which includes a Nov. 20 game vs. Purdue at Wrigley Field — and blink in disbelief. The Wildcats’ three crossover games are Michigan State, Rutgers and Michigan. Their nonconference schedule — Indiana State, at Duke and Ohio — is the easiest of any Big Ten team. Athletic Director Bill Moos and Frost would dance over a schedule like this. It’s a steak schedule — as in, good for an Outback Bowl berth — any way you slice it.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 09, 2021, 12:04:31 AM
I think that mustard looks right. It's the celery salt throwing you off??
Was that what that was? Looked to me like "fancy" mustard...

If that was just a dusting of celery salt, I retract my statement and approve.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2021, 02:29:20 AM
I just go with yella mustard.
I know you guys tell me about Portillo's hotdogs and burgers, but I can never seem to order anything but the beef n cheddar.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 09, 2021, 08:28:07 AM
Portillo's double cheeseburger is killer.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 09, 2021, 09:04:53 AM
Yeah, the cheeseburgers are great.

The cheese fries are amazing.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 09, 2021, 03:32:08 PM
Seems the Vols may be down for a while longer, losing a lot of players.

Tennessee experiencing major roster turnover via NCAA Transfer Portal (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Tennessee-football-NCAA-transfer-portal-Henry-TooToo-Juwan-Mitchell-165183632/?fbclid=IwAR3F4PdFT03cRcH5SwxWilkVanuBUzBubvN7XK5c-Db1Cdr0CL4yHuMTzpk)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 09, 2021, 09:21:34 PM
almost as bad as michigan
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 09, 2021, 11:35:52 PM
Tennessee would give up its checkerboard end zones to be Michigan right now.
Their roster is barren.
They just had 2 players drafted, one of which was a 5* who didn't get picked until the 6th round.  
Light-years behind Florida and Georgia, they've fallen behind Kentucky as a football program.  They're probably on par with Missouri and above only South Carolina and Vanderbilt.  Sadly, they're 4th in the weaker of the two divisions in the SEC, which means they're lower than 8th overall in the conference.
Their new HC got worse each year at UCF:  12-1, 10-3, 6-4.  
They're facing some sort of penalty from the NCAA.
.
The Vols are a train wreck on top of a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on May 10, 2021, 08:51:13 AM
Yes, the Cleveland "Stadium Mustard" is the cat's pajamas.

I have yet to find a suitable replacement.
It's about the only good reason to go to an Indians game. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 10, 2021, 09:25:51 AM
France has an astounding number of mustards, which I never expected at all.  Maille has a place in Paris with maybe a thousand different types?  It's like a museum.  You can get it in a ceramic pot which they will refill for you (for some expense).  And it's really good mustard (moo-tar in French).

PARIS La Maison Maille French Boutique (https://us.maille.com/blogs/boutiques/paris-la-maison-maille-boutique-update)


(https://i.imgur.com/B7uG5Tp.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 10, 2021, 09:29:25 AM
should open a brats store next door
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 10, 2021, 09:57:36 AM
The French love their sauces and condiments that's for sure.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 10, 2021, 10:02:49 AM
should open a brats store next door
The wife puts mustard on steak at times, she has resisted somewhat as I look askance when I get some nice steaks and she adds mustard.  

I expected mustard in Strasbourg, it's very Germanic there, but they serve weak gin and tonics.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 10, 2021, 10:15:13 AM
a very good mustard on a med grade steak wouldn't be horrid

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 10, 2021, 10:21:00 AM
The French love their sauces and condiments that's for sure.
including their soucy wenches
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 10, 2021, 10:29:52 AM
It's about the only good reason to go to an Indians game.


It is what they usually had at OSU games too. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 11, 2021, 11:42:11 AM
a very good mustard on a med grade steak wouldn't be horrid
We like flatiron steaks, which I'd call "mid-grade", but very tasty, I have tried various mustards on it, not really adding anything for me, but the wife likes it.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 11, 2021, 01:29:08 PM
try to keep the wife happy
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 13, 2021, 11:53:40 AM
We like flatiron steaks, which I'd call "mid-grade", but very tasty
last week end Test Kitchen did a segment on grilling those up.I was a foamin' like a St Bernard,gonna re-watch that and give it a shot
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 13, 2021, 11:58:58 AM
Going to a good steakhouse tomorrow to help a friend celebrate his 50th birthday.  Leaning toward the aged NY strip.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 13, 2021, 12:00:01 PM
Order ketchup just to get a rise from the waiter.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 13, 2021, 12:03:33 PM
Order ketchup just to get a rise from the waiter.
Or A-1! :)

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2021, 12:43:21 PM
Going to a good steakhouse tomorrow to help a friend celebrate his 50th birthday.  Leaning toward the aged NY strip. 
great choice

I had a prime strip last night grilled to perfection - rare - mediumrare
but, it wasn't dry aged
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 13, 2021, 12:51:36 PM
You guys got me goin'... Did the menu for the next week last night and we're going to do flatiron steaks on Sunday, along with some roasted beets and an arugula salad. 

I don't even consider flatiron to be "mid-grade"--it's not like some of those steaks where you have to take special care when cooking or cutting (like tri tip, flank steak, etc) to make it tender. It's already tender.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
Flatiron, to me, has the best taste out there.  It also is thick on one end, so I can grill it blu like the wife likes and the thinner end will be rare-med rare like I prefer.

It's the mark of a nice restaurant when the server understands what blu means.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 13, 2021, 12:59:44 PM
Flatiron, to me, has the best taste out there.  It also is thick on one end, so I can grill it blu like the wife likes and the thinner end will be rare-med rare like I prefer.

It's the mark of a nice restaurant when the server understands what blu means.
When I was in Nantes for several months, the cook at my hotel restaurant always served steaks blu.  I could order bien cuit and it still came out blu.  He just didn't believe anyone could possibly want a steak cooked beyond blu.

I didn't get steak very often though, the quality of beef just isn't very good over there.  But occasionally steak frites with a bottle of Bordeaux was just the right thing to order.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 01:11:16 PM
I'm told the steak in France is all grass fed, with few exceptions, and they are used to it.  No large feed lots, apparently.

Wagyu would be the opposite.  The good news is that lamb or fish or duck is so good, usually, there is no reason to order beef, other than on occasion.

I keep telling the wife to order the thing a place is known for, don't go to some fried chicken place and order a burger.  She'll do this sort of thing fairly often.  Don't order a croissant at Arby's and think it will taste like those in France.  She doesn't know our regionalities very well.  I've learned to tell here, "Hey, we're in Calabash, it's time to order fried shrimp, not raw oysters."

We found a Carrefour in Marseille near the hotel that had breakfast for three euros, coffee, croissant, and fresh OJ, it was amazing at the price.

But I digress.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2021, 01:42:29 PM
the Piedmontese breed of cattle comes from a region in Italy that borders France

the Piedmontese steaks I've tried were very good
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 01:44:59 PM
Is that area at the foot of the mountains?

They also make some rather good wine from Nebbiolo grapes.  The spell checker here is impressive.

Nebbiolo in a Nutshell | Wine Folly (https://winefolly.com/deep-dive/nebbiolo-in-a-nutshell/)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 13, 2021, 01:46:39 PM
Or A-1! :)


A-1 will get an eyeroll, ordering ketchup for your fancy steak might get him kicked right out of the joint!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 13, 2021, 01:46:49 PM
not sure, but a rancher in Nebraska has a certified Piedmontese herd and the beef is tasty and expensive
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 13, 2021, 03:37:32 PM
I'm told the steak in France is all grass fed, with few exceptions, and they are used to it.  No large feed lots, apparently.

Wagyu would be the opposite.  The good news is that lamb or fish or duck is so good, usually, there is no reason to order beef, other than on occasion.

I keep telling the wife to order the thing a place is known for, don't go to some fried chicken place and order a burger.  She'll do this sort of thing fairly often.  Don't order a croissant at Arby's and think it will taste like those in France.  She doesn't know our regionalities very well.  I've learned to tell here, "Hey, we're in Calabash, it's time to order fried shrimp, not raw oysters."

We found a Carrefour in Marseille near the hotel that had breakfast for three euros, coffee, croissant, and fresh OJ, it was amazing at the price.

But I digress.
Don't forget the RABBIT! 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 13, 2021, 03:48:44 PM
Is it duck season or wabbit season?!?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 13, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
In France, it's always...

...BOTH.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 13, 2021, 05:24:00 PM
(https://starcasm.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/My-600-Lb-Life-Robert-2-490x276.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 13, 2021, 05:33:08 PM
I'm not much of a fan of rabbit, it's "OK".  I'm not a fan of seiche either.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 14, 2021, 06:32:53 AM
Some pretty damn good steaks in Tuscany.

(https://i.imgur.com/Bzfesrc.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 14, 2021, 07:38:30 AM
Get that out of Bon Appetit,Badge ;-) ?
  I'm not a fan of seiche either.
 What does water level have to do with dining?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 14, 2021, 08:22:17 AM
Some pretty damn good steaks in Tuscany.

(https://i.imgur.com/Bzfesrc.jpg)
Second the motion. I laid waste to an excellent 800-gram bisteca Florentina on New Years Eve 2020. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 08:35:10 AM
Get that out of Bon Appetit,Badge ;-) ? What does water level have to do with dining?

seiche -- cuttle-fish

(https://i.imgur.com/e7GaNYe.jpg)

It's a thing in Provence.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 08:37:48 AM
I'm not much of a fan of rabbit, it's "OK".  I'm not a fan of seiche either.


Mmmmm, I like both. The French will eat pretty much anything though, that's for sure.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 08:41:06 AM
I do like escargot a lot when done well.  I'm not very finicky.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 08:56:48 AM
Yup I like that, too.

My local French coworkers in Nantes had been to the USA many times, and they know how traditionally conservative Americans are, when it comes to food variety.  They kept trying to find dishes I wouldn't eat, but I ended up liking pretty much all of it.

Really the only thing I didn't like in France, was the almost-raw fajita meat they tried to serve me when the gang took me to a Tex-Mex restaurant.  Those crazy Frogs think ALL beef should be eaten blu, and they don't understand that with a cut like skirt steak, you have to cook it all the way.


Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 08:59:51 AM
When I was a kid, my Mom was limited by what my Dad would eat, which wasn't much, really the typical US diet of stuff, no pizza, no spaghetti, nothing remotely "foreign".

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 09:08:29 AM
When I was a kid, my Mom was limited by what my Dad would eat, which wasn't much, really the typical US diet of stuff, no pizza, no spaghetti, nothing remotely "foreign".


I can't imagine a life growing up without pizza.  Every other Tuesday evening, our family went to the nearby Pizza Inn, because it was buffet night.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MarqHusker on May 14, 2021, 09:22:43 AM
Get that out of Bon Appetit,Badge ;-) ? What does water level have to do with dining?

Bon Appétit doesn't seem to write or talk about food anymore.  Between the test kitchen controversy and the former editor's brown face hypocrisy,  it's turned into a thin layout of nonstop apologies and navel gazing. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 14, 2021, 09:31:22 AM
I can't imagine a life growing up without pizza.  Every other Tuesday evening, our family went to the nearby Pizza Inn, because it was buffet night.

My wife's Italian family always had Pizza Friday. I've enthusiastically embraced this trend.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 09:33:25 AM
My sister and her BF in HS took me to a pizza place when I was 16, first time I'd ever even seen pizza.  I had "Mexican" first time in college, it seemed exotic to me.  So did spaghetti.  I remember being taken for lunch to Red Lobster at times in college, it was considered high on the hog.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2021, 09:36:50 AM
When I was a kid, my Mom was limited by what my Dad would eat, which wasn't much, really the typical US diet of stuff, no pizza, no spaghetti, nothing remotely "foreign".
My parents were a lot more adventurous than that. I wouldn't say we ate "exotic" cuisine, but being in Chicago there was plenty of excellent Greek food and of course pizza, Italian, and like most Americans I grew up on mediocre American Chinese food and bad Tex-Mex... 

The one thing I'd never eaten before moving to California was avocado. I guess we'd never ordered guacamole at the bad Tex-Mex places, and it wasn't as prevalent in the Midwest back then as I assume it is now...

The funny thing is that after my parents moved to Colorado, I was talking to them on the phone and my dad was complaining "they put avocado on EVERYTHING out here"... Yeah, dad, they do... Because it's freakin' delicious!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 09:40:35 AM
If those places really were trying to be Tex-Mex, then avocado and guacamole wouldn't be very common on the menu anyway.  That was always a Cal-Mex thing.  It eventually found its way into Tex-Mex, but it didn't start here.

I don't actually like avocado all that much.  I don't hate it, but I can certainly do without.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 09:49:26 AM
I grew up in the '60s in the South of course and "foreign food" wasn't a thing.  I probably missed noticing some because we never ate there.  Cafeterias were a thing, and some were pretty good, some not.  That is a something that has almost disappeared.  I guess we have food bars now.

I started getting into French food in grad school because I was dating a French major, and there was one place in CH that was French(ish).  By then I was familiar with Greek (liked it), German (didn't), Italian (loved it), Mexican(ish) (not so much of what was available).  I ate a lot of eastern Carolina BBQ and fried seafood and chicken.

Red Lobster had all you can eat shrimp one day a week and we'd splurge and go there sometimes.  I was super skinny and could eat like crazy.

It is fun to think back about how much I've evolved.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2021, 10:09:48 AM
It's funny that now in all of those tiny rural towns in GA, the first real restaurant after fast food moves in are a BBQ joint and a mexican restaurant about 9 times out of 10.  Don't let 'em in the country, but yeah, you can make me dinner.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 10:24:27 AM
We frequent a local Japanese place called Silverlake Ramen, and the four workers behind the counter prepping are all Hispanic, and super nice.  Once, after we ate, a lady there asked if we liked beans, and she made us part of her lunch, a kind of omelet with black beans, it was delicious.  We had already eaten lunch really.

It is of course very common here to see an Asian restaurant where the cooks are Hispanics.  The NE part of the city is a combination of Asians and Hispanics, you can get some really good food out there, it's famous for it, some shopping centers strip malls have signs in Vietnamese or Chinese with English subtitles, or Spanish.  We used to go our there to a Chinese food market that has ultra cheap stuff, mostly, you see mostly Asians and Hispanics shopping there.  Now I'm hungry.

There is an Malaysian place that is fairly famous, they opened another one near us, called Food Terminal.

weird name.

Food Terminal (https://www.foodterminal.com/)

At age 15, Amy began her culinary path selling street-style noodles from a kiosk in Malaysia. Together with Howie, the duo came to the United States to pursue the American dream as entrepreneurs. Howie and Amy spent decades exploring culinary achievements, creating brands such as Top Spice and Sweet Hut. Even after years of business accomplishments, the real satisfaction for them is not the success of the restaurants and bakeries, but the appreciation people express after tasting their food.

Inspired by the chefs’ personal cultural background, Food Terminal’s concept reflects Malaysia’s diverse culinary cuisine. Malaysian food draws influence from India, Guang Zhou, Hokkien, Teochew, and Hakka provinces due to the early 1900’s migration for tin and railroad labor demand. As such, Food Terminal’s menu features a high variety of Asian street foods with heavy emphasis on Malaysian cuisine. Food Terminal’s mission is to bring the most authentic Asian-style street taste and experience to Buford Highway.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 10:34:25 AM
Eight Sushi Lounge - West Midtown, Atlanta, GA (eightsushiatl.com) (https://eightsushiatl.com/)

I want to try this place, I need to get to Japan some day.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2021, 10:45:37 AM
In 2016 my buddy got married at Buffalo Trace in Frankfort, KY. My wife [then girlfriend] and I hit a couple spots on the bourbon trail the day before the wedding, and managed to find a rural Kentucky Mexican restaurant--had to pull in just to see it... 

It was an experience. The menu literally had a pronunciation guide on the back in case people didn't know how to pronounce complicated words like tacos... "tah-kos" lol...

The food was as terrible as the menu. I could almost see the shame in the Mexican waiter's eyes when he brought us our meal. Like the old environmental commercial where the Native American sheds a tear over litter or something--this man knew it was a completely bastardized version of his heritage. It was like Hamburger Helper with lettuce and cheddar cheese grated on the top of it. 

I've had better representations of Mexican food at Taco Bell. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2021, 10:48:59 AM
CD, I should have spent a little more time eating at joints on Buford Highway when I lived there. I went out there to El Taco Veloz once or twice, and it was the best burrito I had by far while living in GA. 

But it was just such a hike from Marietta that I didn't make it out there to any of the various Asian restaurants. As I recall, I don't remember eating much Asian food at all for those two years...
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2021, 11:00:46 AM
 Hamburger Helper with lettuce and cheddar cheese grated on the top of it.

I don't see the problem.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 11:02:51 AM
I don't see the problem.
You have a point...
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 14, 2021, 11:11:14 AM
if it's hamburger helper, I have a problem

I wouldn't even eat that in college
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 14, 2021, 11:15:06 AM


(https://i.imgur.com/K8h7OcO.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2021, 11:34:24 AM
if it's hamburger helper, I have a problem

I wouldn't even eat that in college
No, it's not okay to pay like $12 at a restaurant for HH, but it's perfectly fine at home for $3.  We must have had vastly different culinary experiences in college.  I was eating ramen and gas station hotdogs while learning.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 11:53:34 AM
CD, I should have spent a little more time eating at joints on Buford Highway when I lived there. I went out there to El Taco Veloz once or twice, and it was the best burrito I had by far while living in GA.

But it was just such a hike from Marietta that I didn't make it out there to any of the various Asian restaurants. As I recall, I don't remember eating much Asian food at all for those two years...
That is our problem, it's a drive, not that terrible, but we can walk so many places here.  But I love bi bim bop and have not found that in midtown.

The wife just got a bunch of appetizers from Whole Foods.  I like when she puts out a spread of appetizers and we dine on the deck in nice weather.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2021, 12:02:10 PM
One of the nice things here is that we have so many cultural options for food... To get REALLY good Chinese food I'd probably need to go to Irvine at the least, and to get REALLY good South Asian food it's a little farther up to maybe Westminster (Little Saigon) and Garden Grove. But neither of those are all that far--Irvine is only about 10-15 minutes.

The problem is that we nearly never eat restaurant food. We cook 6-7 nights a week at home [even before COVID]. If we're eating at a restaurant, it's much more likely it's lunch on a weekend than dinner anytime. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 12:13:46 PM
I took my daughter to the UGA-Tech game in 2019.  It was cold and drizzly, colder that day than in Columbus, OH where she lives.  There were almost no tailgates out, so we stopped at a University cafeteria for lunch, it was actually quite good, and warm.  When I was there, the cafe food was pretty bad.  I tried a meal plan one quarter.

I couldn't afford HH in grad school, it was maybe a once a year treat.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 14, 2021, 12:51:40 PM
I do like escargot a lot when done well.  I'm not very finicky.
"Waiter take those snails out of here and bring me my ham & cheese like I originally ordered!!!"
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 14, 2021, 01:04:29 PM
In 2016 my buddy got married at Buffalo Trace in Frankfort, KY. My wife [then girlfriend] and I hit a couple spots on the bourbon trail the day before the wedding, and managed to find a rural Kentucky Mexican restaurant--had to pull in just to see it...

It was an experience. The menu literally had a pronunciation guide on the back in case people didn't know how to pronounce complicated words like tacos... "tah-kos" lol...

The food was as terrible as the menu. I could almost see the shame in the Mexican waiter's eyes when he brought us our meal. Like the old environmental commercial where the Native American sheds a tear over litter or something--this man knew it was a completely bastardized version of his heritage. It was like Hamburger Helper with lettuce and cheddar cheese grated on the top of it.

I've had better representations of Mexican food at Taco Bell.
Something tells me that the California yuppy 5 star take on Mexican and Chinese isn't very authentic either.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 14, 2021, 01:06:06 PM
No, it's not okay to pay like $12 at a restaurant for HH, but it's perfectly fine at home for $3.  We must have had vastly different culinary experiences in college.  I was eating ramen and gas station hotdogs while learning.
I never had ramen in college, 1981-1984.
Ate plenty of kraft mac & cheese and hotdogs from the grocery.  Baked beans.  the really cheap frozen pizzas.

couldn't afford to eat from the gas station

the was a butcher shop a couple blocks down from the house 3 of us rented...... lots of chicken and sausage, burger, cheap steaks.  had a small table top charcoal grill... knocked the glass panes out of the window on the porch off the kitchen.  Grilled year around.  Landlord didn't mind.

one of my roommates tried to feed us HH.  I came back from a night of drinking, looking for food in the kitchen, ran across the 5 or 6 boxes of his HH.  Threw it all in the garbage.

I think I hurt his feelings.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on May 14, 2021, 03:55:34 PM
Something tells me that the California yuppy 5 star take on Mexican and Chinese isn't very authentic either.
No doubt, especially with Chinese... Some people here don't know that Chinese food beyond Panda Express on the low end and PF Chang's on the higher end exist. Despite there being some outstanding Chinese food, it hasn't permeated culturally that deeply. 

Not so with Mexican food, though... It's one of those things like pizza that it's no longer even "foreign" or "ethnic" food here in SoCal--it's just part of the panoply of everyday eats. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 14, 2021, 05:05:29 PM
I never had ramen in college, 1981-1984.
Ate plenty of kraft mac & cheese and hotdogs from the grocery.  Baked beans.  the really cheap frozen pizzas.

couldn't afford to eat from the gas station

the was a butcher shop a couple blocks down from the house 3 of us rented...... lots of chicken and sausage, burger, cheap steaks.  had a small table top charcoal grill... knocked the glass panes out of the window on the porch off the kitchen.  Grilled year around.  Landlord didn't mind.

one of my roommates tried to feed us HH.  I came back from a night of drinking, looking for food in the kitchen, ran across the 5 or 6 boxes of his HH.  Threw it all in the garbage.

I think I hurt his feelings.
lol, so one college due screws it up so it's bad forever?  Mkay.

I ate gas station food because my parents gave me a gas card.  I even used it for gas sometimes!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 14, 2021, 05:05:37 PM
Georgia, Clemson to open 2021 season in full stadium per North Carolina governor (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Georgia-Football-opener-full-capacity-Clemson-Tigers-Bank-of-America-Stadium-165400512/?fbclid=IwAR2dod3GqS7bEwmSlS_lchQqgL-nkthh5YvUDbgje51mQG4Ic932JhCuNx8)

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 14, 2021, 05:28:32 PM
lol, so one college due screws it up so it's bad forever?  Mkay.

I ate gas station food because my parents gave me a gas card.  I even used it for gas sometimes!
he screwed it up by buying it

there's no way to make it good - not even with peppers and hot sauce
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 14, 2021, 06:25:05 PM
one of my roommates tried to feed us HH.  I came back from a night of drinking, looking for food in the kitchen, ran across the 5 or 6 boxes of his HH.  
What is this HH that you speak of?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 15, 2021, 08:29:51 AM
Hamburger Helper.

It contains a massive quantity of salt.  The rest is basically starch filler.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 15, 2021, 10:08:03 AM
it sets up in your stomach like concrete
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 15, 2021, 10:25:10 AM
Mmmmm delicious salt and starch filler!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 15, 2021, 10:41:11 AM
Everything a growing boy needs.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on May 15, 2021, 10:51:47 AM

(https://i.imgur.com/K8h7OcO.png)

Errrrr, real tomato catsup, Utee? 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on May 15, 2021, 12:51:40 PM
it sets up in your stomach like concrete
On a rare occasion when pressed for time mom would whip some HH up.I guess it didn't bother me because dad had a keg of Genessee in the basement
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 16, 2021, 08:11:01 AM
So, is anyone planning to attend any games this Fall?

I think I'm going to hit up a Gator game, and maybe a USF game. Might even go to a Hurrigangster game, to help boost their attendance. 

Probably won't make it to Madison this year though.

Is The Swamp a super-tough ticket to come by?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 16, 2021, 08:37:43 AM
I'd guess one can get tickets on StubHub to about any game, the price is the issue of course, but one can usually find a game against "Akron" pretty cheap.  I'm willing to consider meeting up in Jville for the WLOCP, I've never been, figure maybe $220+ for nose bleeds.

I'd be willing to try and get everyone together anywhere, we deserve it.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 16, 2021, 09:14:02 AM
Everything a growing boy needs.
Looks like you and I might be the only ones around here that are finely cultured enough to enjoy HH.  So, what was your favorite kind?

The cheeseburger macaroni and stroganoff were my standards, but I occasionally got a little crazy and bought the Mexican one (enchilada I think they called it) and some Italian ones.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 16, 2021, 09:14:45 AM
So, is anyone planning to attend any games this Fall?

I think I'm going to hit up a Gator game, and maybe a USF game. Might even go to a Hurrigangster game, to help boost their attendance.

Probably won't make it to Madison this year though.

Is The Swamp a super-tough ticket to come by?

Yeah I'll probably go to at least one home game.  I'm definitely going to TX-OU at the Cotton Bowl this year.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 16, 2021, 10:57:15 AM
I'd guess one can get tickets on StubHub to about any game, the price is the issue of course, but one can usually find a game against "Akron" pretty cheap.  I'm willing to consider meeting up in Jville for the WLOCP, I've never been, figure maybe $220+ for nose bleeds.

I'd be willing to try and get everyone together anywhere, we deserve it.
I'd be up for a board meeting. It's been a long time.

I no longer have bookface, but if someone wants to put something on the CFN section, that'd be good.

Maybe @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) could do it, if he's still on it.

Location... Nashville?? Austin?? New destination?? WLOCP?? RRS??
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 16, 2021, 01:55:20 PM
In addition to raucous neutral site games, I think the programs with enthused fans would be those listed below, I probably forgot some:

VaTech
Clemson

PSU
OSU
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska

UGA
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Bama
Tenn
A&M

OU
Texas
(I almost added A&M here)

Notre Dame

USC???
Washington (That would be cool.)
Oregon


Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 16, 2021, 02:26:48 PM
I'm going to the Husker game in Norman in Sept
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 16, 2021, 03:12:07 PM
In addition to raucous neutral site games, I think the programs with enthused fans would be those listed below, I probably forgot some:

VaTech
Clemson

PSU
OSU
Wisconsin
Iowa
Nebraska

UGA
Auburn
Florida
LSU
Bama
Tenn
A&M

OU
Texas
(I almost added A&M here)

Notre Dame

USC???
Washington (That would be have been cool.)
Oregon



Take out big sanctuary cities/counties/states. We all want to be safe on the trip. :)


(https://i.imgur.com/2eXsrLN.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 16, 2021, 08:38:21 PM
Looks like you and I might be the only ones around here that are finely cultured enough to enjoy HH.  So, what was your favorite kind?

The cheeseburger macaroni and stroganoff were my standards, but I occasionally got a little crazy and bought the Mexican one (enchilada I think they called it) and some Italian ones. 
Stroganoff was good, but we ate it too often, so I got tired of it.  I don't remember too many, besides maybe cheesy broccoli and maybe that enchilada one.  It was macaroni, it was meat.....perfectly fine.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 16, 2021, 08:39:08 PM
So, is anyone planning to attend any games this Fall?

I think I'm going to hit up a Gator game, and maybe a USF game. Might even go to a Hurrigangster game, to help boost their attendance.

Probably won't make it to Madison this year though.

Is The Swamp a super-tough ticket to come by?
Florida plays at USF this year (2 for 1).  The week after that, the Tide enters the Swamp.  If you want a full Swamp experience, that'll be it.  Nice and early in the season, too, so it'll be a sauna.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on May 16, 2021, 08:40:05 PM
I'd be up for a board meeting. It's been a long time.

I no longer have bookface, but if someone wants to put something on the CFN section, that'd be good.

Maybe @GopherRock (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=47) could do it, if he's still on it.

Location... Nashville?? Austin?? New destination?? WLOCP?? RRS??
The last college football game I attended was Nevada at Vandy.  If Vandy becomes the last TWO games I attended...yikes.  Granted, the mid-afternoon bar scene with all the different fan bases is fun.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 17, 2021, 02:26:52 PM
Nashville is a blast, for sure. I don't know how anyone could NOT have a good time there.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 17, 2021, 02:34:39 PM
never been to Nashville, but I'm ready to try it.

looking for some hot fried chicken

only a 12 hour drive
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 17, 2021, 03:26:36 PM
247Sports’ Late Kick host Josh Pate is banking on Wisconsin to surprise a lot of people this season. Not only is Wisconsin ranked in the Top 20 in the 247Sports early preseason rankings, Pate thinks that’s even too low.

Speaking on Sunday’s edition of Late Kick, Pate picked Wisconsin as the most underrated team in the Big Ten.


https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/Article/Wisconsin-most-underrated-team-Big-Ten-Badgers-football-Graham-Mertz-Paul-Chryst-Late-Kick-Josh-Pate-165487285/?fbclid=IwAR3MyD9_GifKp7VS5dtKdE8a7awdZGVo_BvTcL-MnqP2-lEJzlLBvhWG438 (https://247sports.com/college/nebraska/Article/Wisconsin-most-underrated-team-Big-Ten-Badgers-football-Graham-Mertz-Paul-Chryst-Late-Kick-Josh-Pate-165487285/?fbclid=IwAR3MyD9_GifKp7VS5dtKdE8a7awdZGVo_BvTcL-MnqP2-lEJzlLBvhWG438)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 17, 2021, 03:28:40 PM
Dammit.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 17, 2021, 03:50:20 PM
Nashville is a fun time indeed, or at least it was the last time that the Mrs. and I went.

@FearlessF (https://www.cfb51.com/index.php?action=profile;u=10) are you planning to come to Minneapolis too? 


Yours truly is planning to attend all the home games, plus the trip to Colorado on September 18. The rest of the schedule is forgiving to the point of some people I know are attempting to go to all 12 games (roadies are Colorado, Purdue, Northwestern, Iowa, and Indiana).

As for reconvening a Board Meeting, I would be okay to lead out, but not at this exact instant. I think our group would be game to host such a Meeting, as there is plenty of room down on the Flats and we've hosted groups down there before. As for schedule, October 16 v Nebraska and October 23 vs. Maryland are the best times to visit with fall colors at or near full peak. 


Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 17, 2021, 04:00:39 PM
I always enjoy my trip to a Gopher football game and a bucket tournament on the Flats.

no formal plan at this time, but it's very possible.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: bayareabadger on May 17, 2021, 04:04:27 PM
Dammit.
It’s the off-season. By the end of it one and three schools will be packed to surprise. Leaving a small class schools not picked a surprise along with the set of schools that can’t surprise.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 17, 2021, 04:26:51 PM
So, how about in Minnesota October 23?  Any other suggestions?  I'll be in Colorado earlier that month.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 17, 2021, 05:12:48 PM
Colorado on the 16th?

can get a bit chilly up there by the 23rd

besides, I'll be there for sure if youse guys are there on the 16th
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on May 17, 2021, 10:25:41 PM
Dallas in early October is usually pretty great.

Unless it's skin-meltingly hot.  Or pouring rain.  But those only happen maybe 25% of the time.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 18, 2021, 10:45:03 AM
I would also like to host another meeting in Lincoln.

The Michigan game on October 9th would be attractive to some here.

And I'll supply the Sharkwater
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 18, 2021, 10:50:12 AM
I'll be in Europe for the month of November.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 18, 2021, 02:14:54 PM
I would also like to host another meeting in Lincoln.

The Michigan game on October 9th would be attractive to some here.

And I'll supply the Sharkwater
I have always wanted to see a game at Nebraska, but we'll be in Colorado that week, Breckenridge.  I guess we're all traveling now.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 18, 2021, 03:12:57 PM
I'm know we could host the prior week v. Nebraska as well. 
Here's the rest of the Gopher home schedule:

Sept 2 (Thurs): Ohio State
Sept 11: Miami Ohio
Sept 25: Bowling Green (homecoming)
Oct 16: Nebraska
Oct 23: Maryland
Nov 6: Illinois
Nov 27: Wisconsin
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 21, 2021, 09:01:43 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-0/s600x600/189513893_1320852634975468_8981562310427728835_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=0nHDnMN658sAX9Nq_1-&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&tp=7&oh=d8a52000e1bca23130923d63fee7f780&oe=60CFDC93)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 23, 2021, 10:37:15 AM
https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/mckewon-is-this-jim-harbaughs-last-stand-at-michigan/article_c483642c-ba39-11eb-a923-af4e40260773.amp.html (https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/mckewon-is-this-jim-harbaughs-last-stand-at-michigan/article_c483642c-ba39-11eb-a923-af4e40260773.amp.html)

Sam McKewon previews Michigan and sees this season as perhaps Jim Harbaugh’s last stand in Ann Arbor.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 27, 2021, 06:32:59 AM
 (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Top-five-defensive-tackles-on-Georgias-2021-schedule-165780883/)
Five CFB teams set to rise in 2021 — and 5 set to tumble (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/College-football-2021-preview-predictions-win-totals-Florida-LSU-North-Carolina-Wisconsin-Notre-Dame-165762808/#165762808_2)
Someone's opinion, Wisconsin among the risers, as is LSU.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 27, 2021, 02:51:08 PM
Nebraska 2021 Game Time and Television Information
Saturday, Aug. 28—Nebraska at Illinois, Noon CT, FOX
Saturday, Sept. 4—Fordham at Nebraska, 11 a.m. CT, Big Ten Network
Saturday, Sept. 11—Buffalo at Nebraska, 2:30 p.m. CT, Big Ten Network
Saturday, Sept. 18—Nebraska at Oklahoma, 11 a.m. CT, FOX
Saturday, Oct. 2—Northwestern at Nebraska, 6:30 p.m. CT, TV TBD (Homecoming)
Saturday, Nov. 20—Nebraska at Wisconsin, Time TBD, ESPN Network TBD
Friday, Nov. 26—Iowa at Nebraska, 12:30 p.m. CT, Big Ten Network
Saturday, Dec. 4—Big Ten Football Championship Game, 7 p.m. CT, FOX
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 27, 2021, 04:11:25 PM
Other than a 7 PM start vs. the Bucks, nothing but 1100 AM local starts. Including the game @ Colorado. No respect.

Apparently this would be the first 11 AM MDT start in Boulder in 20+ years.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 27, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
respect is earned and lost

TV ratings don't lie

Huskers need to win some damn games and get better time slots

11am for the Sooner game

________________________

the good news is that my hotel and game tickets for the Sooner game have been secured

It's fine, I enjoy Bloody Marys on gameday!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on May 27, 2021, 05:51:59 PM
(https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Top-five-defensive-tackles-on-Georgias-2021-schedule-165780883/)
Five CFB teams set to rise in 2021 — and 5 set to tumble (247sports.com)

 (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/College-football-2021-preview-predictions-win-totals-Florida-LSU-North-Carolina-Wisconsin-Notre-Dame-165762808/#165762808_2)
Someone's opinion, Wisconsin among the risers, as is LSU.

Well LSU has to rise almost by default.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 01:55:12 PM
FOX announced that Oklahoma and Nebraska would reignite their rivalry on ‘Big Noon Kickoff,’ which means the game will begin at 11:00 a.m. local time. That didn’t sit too well with the Sooners’ brass, who have apparently been campaigning for a later start time behind the scenes. Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione put out a statement expressing his displeasure with FOX’s decision.

“We are bitterly disappointed that the great Oklahoma-Nebraska rivalry, on the 50th anniversary of the Century, will kick off at 11 a.m,” Castiglione said in a statement. “We tried every avenue possible to proactively make our case. The Big 12 Conference also supported our strenuous efforts to secure a more traditional time that would honor this game and our fans. However, in the end, our TV partner chose to exercise its full contractual rights and denied our requests.”
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 28, 2021, 02:01:57 PM
All of UW's best games are at Noon, including ND at Soldier Field. 

It sucks.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2021, 02:18:25 PM
Eastern TZ bias.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on May 28, 2021, 04:49:50 PM
All of UW's best games are at Noon, including ND at Soldier Field.
Noon is bad, 1100 is worse. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 04:51:53 PM
central time zone sucks
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2021, 06:20:07 PM
DraftKings set Georgia's win total on the season at over/under 10.5 games. This same projection in 2020 was set for Georgia at 10 games. In 2019, the projection was also 10.5 and Georgia ultimately went 11-1 for the third-straight season.

Other SEC teams of note are Alabama at 11.5 wins, Florida at 9 wins, Auburn at 7 wins, Tennessee at 6 wins, Texas A&M at 9.5 wins, and LSU at 8.5 wins. That win projection also means the Dawgs would lose 1-2 games during the season. Georgia is set to open the 2021 season on Sept. 4 against Clemson in Charlotte, North Carolina. The Tigers' win projection is 11.5 wins.

See any you'd bet over or under here?  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MaximumSam on May 28, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
Thinking we should get a tad bit more parity - with OSU, Bammer, and Clemson breaking in new quarterbacks, plus lots of returning players for other teams. Possibly a new team in the playoff mix?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 28, 2021, 06:31:55 PM
Bammer and Clemmons are projected at 11.5 wins, which means playoff barring CG upset.  Might not happen of course.  Ohio State should win the weak Big Ten.

I'm joking.

Throw in Oklahoma and you have same old thing.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 28, 2021, 06:40:09 PM
Ohio State should win the strong Big Ten.

I'm not joking.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: bayareabadger on May 29, 2021, 08:07:27 AM
Bammer and Clemmons are projected at 11.5 wins, which means playoff barring CG upset.  Might not happen of course.  Ohio State should win the weak Big Ten.

I'm joking.

Throw in Oklahoma and you have same old thing.


Someone has to step up and stop those three from winning the conference every year.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2021, 08:09:37 AM
Yeah, if you don't like it, beat them.  UGA has not done their part despite winning the SEC once of late, they probably dodged a bullet getting Auburn in the CG instead of Bama.

Clemson appears to have an almost free shot, Ohio State is favored as well, and Bama, well, they could fall a bit, maybe.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on May 29, 2021, 08:13:43 AM
Wisconsin is going to win the B1G this year.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2021, 08:22:00 AM
One can envision someone other than OSU and Bama getting in, but I don't see Clemson missing out.  Maybe they lose early to UGA, but that would be furgiven if they are 12-1.  They are 4 point favorites over the Dawgs early.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 29, 2021, 08:44:57 AM
perhaps Mack Brown can pull the upset
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on May 29, 2021, 09:45:17 AM
It's possible, and Miami might do the same, but it seems more unlikely there.

I'd put Clemson ten points ahead of anyone else in the ACC, Ohio State is probably six points ahead, and Bama is more like 4 points ahead.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on May 30, 2021, 11:03:31 AM
Wisconsin is going to win the B1G this year.
McKewon: With Barry Alvarez retiring, can Wisconsin remain the Big Ten West bully?

https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/mckewon-with-barry-alvarez-retiring-can-wisconsin-remain-the-big-ten-west-bully/article_c1d1d132-bfd9-11eb-9765-c7687eed7464.amp.html (https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/mckewon-with-barry-alvarez-retiring-can-wisconsin-remain-the-big-ten-west-bully/article_c1d1d132-bfd9-11eb-9765-c7687eed7464.amp.html)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on June 01, 2021, 10:59:56 AM
Wisconsin is going to win the B1G this year.
And Texas will win the B12, and we'll get to see our teams match up finally, in the CFP no less! :)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2021, 12:29:40 PM

ODDS TO WIN 2022 COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF CHAMPIONSHIP (1/10/22)
TeamAmericanFractional
Alabama+300 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)3/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Clemson+350 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)7/2 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Ohio State+500 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)5/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Oklahoma+700 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)7/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Georgia+800 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)8/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Texas A&M+2500 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)25/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
LSU+3500 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)35/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Wisconsin+3500 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)35/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Florida+4000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)40/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Notre Dame+4000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)40/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Miami, Fl.+4000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)40/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Penn State+4000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)40/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Iowa State+4000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)40/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Oregon+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
North Carolina+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
USC+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Texas+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Michigan+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)
Tennessee+5000 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)50/1 (https://www.vegasinsider.com/link_hitcount.cfm?LTid=11501)

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
We have five teams with better than 10:1 odds right now.  That seems low, to me, anyway.  Would I bet a dollar on any of those bets?

I'd bet a buck on Florida, Oklahoma, and, well, Bama, though it would avail me little.

Such odds invariably are for losers, or should I say, for the House.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 01, 2021, 12:45:51 PM
I sure as hell wouldn't put money on Michigan or Tennessee
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on June 01, 2021, 01:29:17 PM
I sure as hell wouldn't put money on Michigan or Tennessee
The casino lights don't pay for themselves.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2021, 01:35:22 PM
If the 50 to 1 shots, I'd put money on UNC before the others, but I really think UNC drops back to Earth a bit and finishes more like 9-4.

For Tennessee even to get mentioned is perhaps an indication they know they can get money from Vol fans.  They might be a million to one, but so is Indiana.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 01, 2021, 01:37:20 PM
If you bet a dollar each on the first five teams, and one of them wins, you'd lose money on Clemson and Bama.  You'd break even if OSU wins, and win $2 on OU and $3 on UGA.  If the field won, ...

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on June 01, 2021, 05:40:37 PM
Wisconsin is going to win the B1G this year.
Stop it,that's just crazy talk
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on June 01, 2021, 05:42:57 PM
And Texas will win the B12, and we'll get to see our teams match up finally, in the CFP no less! :)
Must have been a turrible fall,just turrible
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 01, 2021, 06:16:13 PM
so, Ryan Day is gonna whisper up another QB?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Abba on June 02, 2021, 12:44:11 AM
so, Ryan Day is gonna whisper up another QB?
You never know how QBs will turn out, but he has 3 highly ranked QBs to choose from.  It's kind of an awkward situation where I expect one to transfer out at some point.  Seems like Miller may be #3 right now, so he may transfer out around bowl season if he ends up there.

The bigger story is whether the pass defense can improve.  Coombs gets a pass for last year since he had no choice but to run Hafley's schemes that he wasn't familiar with.  We'll see what things look like with a full spring etc. to work with this time.  The talent level and overall performance of the incumbents in the secondary is also a bit questionable, so I am curious if some younger guys may get some more PT.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 02, 2021, 08:39:24 AM
Will there be a team "from nowhere" unexpectedly make the playoffs?  Probably not, I don't think Iowa State is really that obscure in the polls.  My somewhat darker horses ti win their conferences are the usual:

UNC
Florida
Wisconsin
Iowa State
Anybody in the west.

One of those could  break through and it wouldn't be a complete shock.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2021, 08:44:09 AM
not a shock, but refreshing
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on June 02, 2021, 09:14:58 AM
Will there be a team "from nowhere" unexpectedly make the playoffs?  Probably not, I don't think Iowa State is really that obscure in the polls.  My somewhat darker horses ti win their conferences are the usual:
Iowa State has Matt Campell at the helm,therefore one has to consider them in the mix! Don't believe me ask Brutas or Bay Area 😎
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 02, 2021, 11:55:32 AM
UGA just collected a couple portal guys who fill some slots.

Reaction: Georgia addresses need with elite talents Arik Gilbert, Derion Kendrick (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/Arik-Gilbert-Derion-Kendrick-Georgia-Bulldogs-transfer-portal-reaction-Kirby-Smart-166009693/#166009693_1)

As a freshman during the 2020 season, Gilbert caught 35 passes for 368 yards (10.5 average) and two touchdowns in eight games. Gilbert was the 247Sports Composite's top player at his position and the highest-rated tight end recruit in 247Sports history.

Kendrick appeared in 39 games for Clemson over the past three years with 23 starts. He started his career at wide receiver in 2018 but moved to cornerback in 2019 where he was a second-team All-ACC selection. He was a first-team selection after the 2020 season.


Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2021, 12:13:19 PM
that get's the Dawgs a bit closer to Bama's talent level
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 02, 2021, 04:22:45 PM
that get's the Dawgs a bit closer to Bama's talent level
I'd opine they are equal, if not better, in talent on the field.  Of course, you need that talent in the right spots, like QB, and you need elite coaching.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 02, 2021, 04:42:02 PM
with an elite QB or two and the Bama WR corp from the past couple seasons....... that can overcome some deficiencies in other spots
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 02, 2021, 08:52:03 PM
So UGA somehow slides him in, when he wasn't going to be able to enroll at Florida?  Hooray, academics!!!
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: bayareabadger on June 02, 2021, 10:57:13 PM
UGA just collected a couple portal guys who fill some slots.

Reaction: Georgia addresses need with elite talents Arik Gilbert, Derion Kendrick (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/Arik-Gilbert-Derion-Kendrick-Georgia-Bulldogs-transfer-portal-reaction-Kirby-Smart-166009693/#166009693_1)

As a freshman during the 2020 season, Gilbert caught 35 passes for 368 yards (10.5 average) and two touchdowns in eight games. Gilbert was the 247Sports Composite's top player at his position and the highest-rated tight end recruit in 247Sports history.

Kendrick appeared in 39 games for Clemson over the past three years with 23 starts. He started his career at wide receiver in 2018 but moved to cornerback in 2019 where he was a second-team All-ACC selection. He was a first-team selection after the 2020 season.



Getting Kendrick shows UGA is either deeply serious or borderline desperate. 

That kid has more red flags on him than a medieval castle. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Hawkinole on June 03, 2021, 01:36:13 AM
I predict that having never, EVER been there before, Iowa State will struggle with the expectations.  Like losing 2 games they're easily favored in.
Agreed. But, they do have some really good skilled players as in Brock Purdy at 5th year QB, and Breece Hall at RB with almost 1,600 yards in 2020.

ISU lost their past 5-games to Iowa. Iowa looks to be good in 2021, too.

Rarely do these two do well in the same year.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 03, 2021, 10:44:35 AM
Breece Hall's backup was NFL material according to some that should know.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 06, 2021, 08:42:30 PM
A look at the stats indicates the path to a Big Ten West title starts with defense and takeaways.

https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/stat-chat-every-big-ten-west-champ-agrees-defense-comes-first/article_92cf6f26-c564-11eb-912e-fb6675cc64f3.amp.html (https://omaha.com/sports/huskers/football/stat-chat-every-big-ten-west-champ-agrees-defense-comes-first/article_92cf6f26-c564-11eb-912e-fb6675cc64f3.amp.html)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2021, 12:27:28 PM
Blue-Chip Ratio 2021: The 16 teams who can win a national title (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/Blue-chip-ratio-college-football-2021-16-teams-who-can-win-national-title-166530729/#166530729_4)

(https://i.imgur.com/i9hkwBz.png)

I think we can safely rule out a few of those prospects.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 14, 2021, 12:40:00 PM
largest conference gap is not surprising.

Clemson 67% - Miami 55%

Ohio St. - Michigan is about the same.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 14, 2021, 12:59:59 PM
Signed is not the same as "have on the roster" of course.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 24, 2021, 08:53:26 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNbfaXwAEdqNi?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNeB0WQAMUMaT?format=jpg&name=360x360)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 24, 2021, 09:08:36 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNbfaXwAEdqNi?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNeB0WQAMUMaT?format=jpg&name=360x360)
That November is tough, but I like how Nebraska's schedule sets up before that.  I could certainly see 8-1 through October
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 24, 2021, 09:23:03 PM
agreed, I can envision 8 wins and a bowl

I'd consider that a success

not saying I'm confident it will happen, but..............

I think Martinez moves up a couple tiers.

See below....
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 24, 2021, 09:25:48 PM
let's take a look at CBSSports’ tier-rankings of quarterbacks entering the 2021 season:

TIER I
Sam Howell, North Carolina
Spencer Rattler, Oklahoma
Dillon Gabriel, UCF
Grayson McCall, Coastal Carolina
JT Daniels, Georgia


TIER II
D'Eriq King, Miami
Desmond Ridder, Cincinnati
Jayden Daniels, Arizona State
Matt Corral, Ole Miss
Malik Willis, Liberty
Brock Purdy, Iowa State
Kedon Slovis, USC
Spencer Sanders, Oklahoma State
Dustin Crum, Kent State
Carson Strong, Nevada


TIER III
Michael Penix Jr., Indiana
Tanner Morgan, Minnesota
Charlie Brewer, Utah
Anthony Brown, Oregon
Phil Jurkovec, Boston College
Drew Plitt, Ball State
Malik Cunningham, Louisville
Dorian Thompson-Robinson, UCLA
Jack Coan, Notre Dame
Max Duggan, TCU
Levi Lewis, Louisiana
Jarret Doege, West Virginia
Hank Bachmeier, Boise State
Jake Haener, Fresno State
Layne Hatcher, Arkansas State


TIER IV
D.J. Uiagalelei, Clemson
Bryce Young, Alabama
McKenzie Milton, Florida State
Emory Jones, Florida
Kaleb Eleby, Western Michigan
Tyler Shough, Texas Tech
Brennan Armstrong, Virginia
Graham Mertz, Wisconsin
Connor Bazelak, Missouri
Taulia Tagovailoa, Maryland
Bailey Zappe, Western Kentucky


TIER V
Bo Nix, Auburn
Grant Wells, Marshall
Sean Clifford, Penn State
Adrian Martinez, Nebraska
Jake Bentley, South Alabama
Ryan Hilinski, Northwestern
N'Kosi Perry FAU
Chase Brice, Appalachian State
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 24, 2021, 10:25:52 PM
Blue-Chip Ratio 2021: The 16 teams who can win a national title (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/Blue-chip-ratio-college-football-2021-16-teams-who-can-win-national-title-166530729/#166530729_4)

(https://i.imgur.com/i9hkwBz.png)
I think we can safely rule out a few of those prospects.
I wouldn't positively rule out any of those.  Obviously the teams near the bottom are a LOT less likely but, IMHO even USC/Miami/ND have enough baseline talent that they *COULD* have a "magical" year in which everything comes together just right and they win an NC.  

The thing that REALLY stuck out to me was the gaps.  As I see it:
Tier 1:
The rosters for these three are four-fifths blue chips.  They should be pretty much expected to either make the playoff or at least be right in the mix.  

Tier 2:
These five aren't quite at the level of Bama/UGA/tOSU but they aren't very far behind.  Any of them could hit the right combination of things coming together and beat out the top-3.  

Tier 3:

These eight are a little further back.  It would take a very unlikely combination of events for them to be ready to beat Bama/UGA/tOSU but they aren't so far back that it is truly impossible.  It *COULD* happen for any of them.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on June 25, 2021, 12:47:42 AM
Blue-Chip Ratio 2021: The 16 teams who can win a national title (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/LongFormArticle/Blue-chip-ratio-college-football-2021-16-teams-who-can-win-national-title-166530729/#166530729_4)

(https://i.imgur.com/i9hkwBz.png)

I think we can safely rule out a few of those prospects.
Been saying this for years.  I just didn't have a pretty graphic.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2021, 07:55:34 AM
I see four factors in all of this:

1.  recruiting
2.  game day coaching
3.  schedule
4.  chance.

Usually, an NC team will have had 2-3 games that easily could have slid off the cracker.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on June 25, 2021, 08:30:14 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNbfaXwAEdqNi?format=jpg&name=360x360)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4qNeB0WQAMUMaT?format=jpg&name=360x360)
I'd make a joke about Indiana's schedule being this hard because they don't get to play Indiana...

...but then I see where Purdue is on the list...
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2021, 09:42:46 AM
Hardest schedules of course hinge on accurate rankings of teams, which we have only partially.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 25, 2021, 10:00:35 AM
as with anything, we know more post-season, but not everything

even post season it's an educated guess
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2021, 04:23:57 PM
Michigan... Heh.

(https://i.imgur.com/bNapyVm.png)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 25, 2021, 04:27:44 PM
Why would they list liability with UGA as being QB?  Most view that position as a strength.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 25, 2021, 04:28:13 PM
Michigan... Heh.

(https://i.imgur.com/bNapyVm.png)
Don't sleep on Texas or Kansas either.

I also think MSU will have a better than expected season if the QBs are the biggest liability.  I think they'll be *fine*, and there are areas I am MUCH more concerned about (TE, OL, DL, CB)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 25, 2021, 04:35:47 PM
My biggest thing with UW is depth at the TB and TE positions. I think the DL is in decent shape. They generally only play 2 of them.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 25, 2021, 07:15:36 PM
Wolverines and Horns

gotta luv it

MUCH easier to limit the boosters than the head coach
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 28, 2021, 02:38:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hM3GxHL45rs
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2021, 06:22:27 AM
A list claiming UGA's biggest liability is at QB is not very credible, to me anyway.

I would probably have said "biggest uncertainty" instead of liability, and even then it's not QB for UGA.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on June 28, 2021, 08:28:49 AM
Minnesota's biggest liability for fall '21 is the kicking game, by a country mile. That aspect has been atrocious under PJ.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 28, 2021, 11:59:28 AM
but, probably better than the Huskers under Frosty

national outlets don't have the time or energy or motivation to research UGA or most programs to the point they are credible

grains of salt
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 28, 2021, 04:35:27 PM
I would certainly say UGA has unknowns in the secondary, no doubt, and perhaps the OL could be weaker than expected.  But QB?  They have a five star with 1.5 years of starting at QB.  It makes no sense.  Suggests the whole thing is suspect.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 28, 2021, 09:50:24 PM
Winningest teams over the past decade

https://twitter.com/BigGameBoomer/status/1409555721465778178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1409555721465778178%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmichiganstate.boards.net%2Fthread%2F2726%2Ftofficial-college-football-offseason-thread%3Fpage%3D3
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 28, 2021, 09:53:45 PM
Fearless Frank Solich up 5 on the Huskers

would have NEVER guessed Huskers tied with Horns
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 29, 2021, 01:45:19 PM
Using the worldwide leader's post-spring top-25 here are all of the scheduled OOC games between top-25 teams:



So by date we have:
Saturday, September 4:
Saturday, September 11:
Saturday, September 18:
Saturday, September 25:
Saturday, October 2:
Saturday, October 23:
Saturday, October 30:

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 29, 2021, 02:05:28 PM
Does that seem a bit more than we usually have in a season?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 29, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
Gameday in Bloomington for Cincinnati-Indiana?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2021, 02:19:12 PM
Does that seem a bit more than we usually have in a season?
a couple that aren't usually on the list


#6 ISU vs #14 Iowa

#9 Cincy @ #11 Indiana
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 29, 2021, 02:23:03 PM
a couple that aren't usually on the list


#6 ISU vs #14 Iowa

#9 Cincy @ #11 Indiana

Cajuns-Horns
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 29, 2021, 02:47:04 PM
No doubt UC at UI is kind of a stunner to be two ranked teams.  For ULL to be ranked higher than Texas is a stunner.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2021, 02:51:20 PM
I understand the Horns have been down and changing coaches, but didn't know they were in the Husker's level of trouble

I almost feel bad for them
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 29, 2021, 03:19:06 PM
Texas is top 25 preseason in most polls.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 29, 2021, 03:23:23 PM
Texas is top 25 preseason in most polls.


Every year.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2021, 03:37:12 PM
apparently, they don't usually finish there the past ten seasons

recruiting says they should be there
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 29, 2021, 06:53:58 PM
The PFF Preseason College Football All-Big Ten Team: Indiana's Michael Penix Jr. headlines the quarterback position

https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-preseason-all-big-ten-team-2021 (https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-preseason-all-big-ten-team-2021)

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Temp430 on June 30, 2021, 05:10:22 AM
The state of California has banned work based travel to 17 states by CA state employees.  The states are Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Montana, North Dakota, West Virginia, Alabama, Idaho, Iowa, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, Mississippi, and Tennessee.  So, if your team from one of the above states is hosting a CA team this season, the game will likely not happen.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2021, 07:53:16 AM
I don't know if coaches are state employees, technically.  Mebbe.  Why those states?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on June 30, 2021, 08:04:50 AM
I don't know if coaches are state employees, technically.  Mebbe.  Why those states?
Alabama and South Carolina make sense.  The rest are just to hide true motivations
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on June 30, 2021, 08:10:53 AM
I don't know if coaches are state employees, technically.  Mebbe.  Why those states?
Because of their stances on transgenders competing in sports, bathroom use, etc.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2021, 08:18:26 AM
California bans state-funded travel to five new states over anti-LGBTQ laws - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/28/politics/california-travel-ban-anti-lgbtq-laws/index.html)

Those states have banned men from becoming women and participating in women's sports.

I guess they also banned women from becoming men and doing the reverse.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Temp430 on June 30, 2021, 08:39:50 AM
This issue has the potential to get out of hand wrt to college sports.  More blue states could follow CA's lead and red states could start banning blue states.  Everything is political now.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on June 30, 2021, 09:17:31 AM
It's all just optics. 

California once said that they were boycotting Arizona because of "racism." 

Arizona responded by asking if California still wanted Arizona to sell them power. 

So then California accused Arizona of "threatening" them. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on June 30, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
California's Texas travel ban creates confusion in college sports | The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/2017/06/23/californias-texas-travel-ban-creates-confusion-college-sports/)

It’s possible, however, that all the worries could be moot. The California attorney general’s office is currently considering issuing its formal legal opinion about whether the ban applies to the coaches in the University of California and California State University systems. A spokesperson for the office said they plan “to provide guidance on this general issue soon.”


My guess, it won't apply to athletics.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 30, 2021, 10:56:07 AM
Head coach Kirk Ferentz is back for his 22nd season in Iowa City, and the Hawkeyes are again hoping to push for a Big Ten West title this year.

We caught up with Tom Kakert of HawkeyeReport.com to get the latest on Iowa coming out of spring ball.


Iowa returned its starting quarterback in Spencer Petras and has one of the best running backs in the Big Ten with Tyler Goodson.

But the most pressing questions facing the Hawkeyes came at its two bread-and-butter units on the offensive and defensive lines.

Iowa introduced a new o-line coach in George Barnett and lost first-team All-Big Ten left tackle Alaric Jackson, second-team all-conference right guard Cole Barnwart, and starting right tackle Mark Kallenberger.

The shoes weren't any easier to fill on defense, either. The Hawkeyes lost three starters on the front four, including two consensus first-team All-Big Ten selections in Chauncy Golston and unanimous All-American Daviyon Nixon, the 2020 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.

The good news for Ferentz and Co. was there was still strong talent to rebuild around on both sides of the ball. Tyler Linderbaum returns as arguably the best center in the country, and second-team all-conference defensive end Zach VanValkenburg is back as a Super Senior.


https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/spring-opponent-review-iowa-2 (https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/spring-opponent-review-iowa-2)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on June 30, 2021, 11:10:47 AM
Gameday in Bloomington for Cincinnati-Indiana?
It could actually happen.  That game is scheduled for Saturday, September 18.  Here are both teams' schedules prior to that:
Cincy:
The Bearcats should obviously be undefeated heading into Bloomington.  

Indiana:
The Hoosiers obviously have a tougher set with Iowa in Kinnick but even at 1-1 they would likely still be ranked.  

Just glancing through the schedule for that date the games that jump out at me as potential contenders for Gameday are:

The likeliest candidate is obviously Bama @ Florida.  Bama has Miami, FL and Mercer before that while Florida has two directional Florida schools (FAU, USF).  


I think the monkey-wrench that makes Gameday in Bloomington for UC@UI unlikely is Miami, FL.  If the Canes manage to knock off the Tide in their opener then that MSU@Miami game becomes HUGE and probably gets gameday so long as MSU wins their first two (@NU, vs YSU).  OTOH, if the Tide win then the Tide and Gators will most likely both be undefeated and top-10 heading into their meeting in the Swamp.  

One thing that could help UC@UI is that Cincinnati and Indiana have a LOT less Gameday appearances than Bama, Florida, Miami, and MSU:
They may decide that it makes more sense to give IU and UC their second Gameday appearances rather than giving Bama/UF/Miami/MSU their 51st, 42nd, 25th, or 15th.  Additionally, those other four have a better chance of getting gameday later in the season than IU/UC.  

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on June 30, 2021, 11:21:10 AM
UNL @ OU in Norman
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on June 30, 2021, 11:40:46 AM
I understand the Horns have been down and changing coaches, but didn't know they were in the Husker's level of trouble

I almost feel bad for them
Ha!

Nobody's buying it. :)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on July 01, 2021, 03:36:56 PM
Cross-over games for 2021, B1G-E


My thoughts:
I think this is a great set-up for the Buckeyes.  Unless Fleck and Minnesota row their boat to contender status or Nebraska suddenly reverts back to mid-90's Osborne status the Buckeyes should go 3-0 against the B1G-W and their most likely B1G-E contenders will likely have tougher cross-over games:
That is going to make it tough for any of the other B1G-E teams to end Ohio State's now four year run of B1GCG appearances.  

Cross-over games for 2021, B1G-W


My thoughts:
Wisconsin's schedule will be great for them IF they are strong enough to take out the Nittany Lions and Wolverines in Madison.  Further, three of Wisconsin's four league road games are in West Lafayette, Champaign, and Piscataway so I see this as a highly favorable schedule for the Badgers provided that they are a contender.  

I also think that Illinois' schedule is very favorable for them.  They get the two B1G-E weaklings (UMD and RU) at home.  In fact, four of their five league home games are against teams that they just might be able to beat at home (NU, UNL, UMD, RU).  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: medinabuckeye1 on July 01, 2021, 04:19:08 PM
B1G Championship race:


Divisional titles:

*Wisconsin has more B1GCG appearances (6) than divisional titles (5) because they have never lost a tie and because back in 2012 they finished third in the old Legends division but went to the B1GCG anyway because first place tOSU (tattoo scandal) and second place PSU (Sandusky scandal) were both ineligible for post-season play.  The official position of the conference is that Ohio State won the Legends Division that year. 

FWIW:
Michigan's three title lead (42-39 over tOSU) hasn't been that small since just before they won it in 1969.  Prior to their 1969 title (shared with tOSU) they led Minnesota 21-18.  Michigan's lead hasn't been less than three since just before they won it in 1949.  Prior to their 1949 title (shared with tOSU) they led Minnesota 18-16.  Back then Illinois was in third place with nine and tOSU was in fourth place with eight. 

Michigan's largest-ever league title lead was after they won the 2004 title (their 42nd and most recent) and before Ohio State won the 2005 title.  During that time Michigan's lead was 13, 42-29 over tOSU.  Then Ohio State won five straight (2005-2009) to close within eight (42-34) and Ohio State won five more after that (2014 and 2017-2020) to close within three (42-39). 

One final thing that I want to see happen this season:
Ohio State leads Michigan over any current time-frame 1908-present or shorter.  The Buckeyes and Wolverines are tied since the 1907 game (51-51-5) and Michigan leads over current timeframes of 1906-present and longer.  Only one living American has been alive long enough that Michigan has a winning record against Ohio State in their lifetime.  Thelma Sutcliffe was born on October 1, 1906 and when she was just short of three weeks old the Wolverines beat the Buckeyes 6-0 in Columbus.  In her 114+ years on earth the Wolverines have beaten the Buckeyes 52 times, the Buckeyes have beaten the Wolverines 51 times, and there have been five ties. 

There are about 330 Million living Americans.  Here is how the Ohio State/Michigan series breaks down in each of their lifetimes:

*The 14 game lead is 16-2 for 2001-present.  Note, only 18 games in 20 years because one game was vacated and one game was not played due to COVID. 

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Hawkinole on July 02, 2021, 12:51:53 AM
Head coach Kirk Ferentz is back for his 22nd season in Iowa City, and the Hawkeyes are again hoping to push for a Big Ten West title this year.

We caught up with Tom Kakert of HawkeyeReport.com to get the latest on Iowa coming out of spring ball.


Iowa returned its starting quarterback in Spencer Petras and has one of the best running backs in the Big Ten with Tyler Goodson.

But the most pressing questions facing the Hawkeyes came at its two bread-and-butter units on the offensive and defensive lines.

Iowa introduced a new o-line coach in George Barnett and lost first-team All-Big Ten left tackle Alaric Jackson, second-team all-conference right guard Cole Barnwart, and starting right tackle Mark Kallenberger.

The shoes weren't any easier to fill on defense, either. The Hawkeyes lost three starters on the front four, including two consensus first-team All-Big Ten selections in Chauncy Golston and unanimous All-American Daviyon Nixon, the 2020 Big Ten Defensive Player of the Year.

The good news for Ferentz and Co. was there was still strong talent to rebuild around on both sides of the ball. Tyler Linderbaum returns as arguably the best center in the country, and second-team all-conference defensive end Zach VanValkenburg is back as a Super Senior.


https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/spring-opponent-review-iowa-2 (https://nebraska.rivals.com/news/spring-opponent-review-iowa-2)
Thanks for posting this. I will state the obvious, I suspect the west will be a three-way race between Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Iowa. Based on recruiting the past 3-years Nebraska could break through into the top-3 BTW.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2021, 09:53:33 AM
Frost has always had the talent according to recruiting rankings, it's about the culture and discipline and execution

season 4, it's time to show up
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2021, 09:55:49 AM
stating the obvious, Northwestern, Iowa and Wisconsin have firmly developed the culture and discipline and execution
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on July 02, 2021, 11:21:02 AM
Northwestern can't maintain consistency, though.  For every diamond, they lay a turd (season-wise).
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on July 02, 2021, 11:27:55 AM
recruiting and commitment

obviously the head coach is fully committed, but those above him aren't

he does a great job considering his situation
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on July 19, 2021, 03:20:12 PM
Georgia offense ranked No. 5 heading into 2021 season (247sports.com) (https://247sports.com/college/georgia/Article/Georgia-Football-offense-rankings-2021-season-167819819/?fbclid=IwAR17svJC9fgVrJGCOMmrB4fw3M5Fart1iFp6A4Rg1UEI5GgNclVfL6hw18A)

Meh, maybe so.  I have learned not to think much of such rankings beyond the obvious.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 02, 2021, 12:58:58 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/228264221_4295344277169615_3339231879372636868_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=x3cagb9Q7sAAX89pk-Z&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=476e01bd88ddb6d49d24832e60325c5c&oe=612CE309)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 06, 2021, 04:21:31 PM
According to a schedule posted at United.com, there will be a direct flight from Columbus to Lincoln on the evening of Nov. 5 and a return direct flight from Lincoln to Columbus on Nov. 7. The Huskers and Buckeyes are scheduled to play at Memorial Stadium on Nov. 6.

This time around, Husker fans will also be able to fly directly to a game from Lincoln. United is offering a direct flight to Lansing, Michigan, the evening of Sept. 24 in advance of the Huskers' game against Michigan State on Sept. 25. A direct return flight is scheduled for the morning of Sept. 26.

Michigan fans also will be able to fly straight to Lincoln for the Oct. 9 matchup with Nebraska. United is offering a direct flight from Detroit to Lincoln that day, with a return trip Sunday morning.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 19, 2021, 04:11:14 PM
(https://scontent.ffod1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/p526x296/239529352_4351815368189172_3064928365380615032_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=JhdiLvwKNlgAX-TepZU&_nc_ht=scontent.ffod1-1.fna&oh=b27810818d669c8dec10a9b12d0656e7&oe=6142D365)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 20, 2021, 10:41:02 PM
First-year Auburn football coach Bryan Harsin has tested positive for COVID-19 and is isolating at home without any symptoms, he said Friday.

In a statement released by the university, Harsin said he tested positive Thursday.

He will participate remotely in meetings and practice for 10 days, while assistant head coach Jeff Schmedding, who also coaches linebackers and is the defensive run game coordinator, will assume in-person head-coaching duties.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 23, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
If a Big Ten team is unable to play because of COVID, the game will be forfeited and count as a loss, the conference announced Monday. In a statement, the Big Ten explained the policy ahead of the 2021-22 sports year.

"In collaboration and communication with the Big Ten Conference Athletic Directors, Chancellors and Presidents, the Task Force for Emerging Infectious Diseases, and the Sports Medicine Committee – effective today – the conference has determined that if one of its member institutions is unable to play a conference contest due to COVID-19, that contest shall be declared a forfeit and will not be rescheduled," the Big Ten said in a statement.

"That contest shall be considered a loss for the team impacted by COVID-19 and a win for its opponent in the conference standings. If both of the two competing teams are unable to participate in a scheduled Conference competition due to COVID-19 and as a result the competition is unable to occur on the calendar day on which it is scheduled, the competition shall be considered a 'no contest.'"
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 23, 2021, 11:41:25 AM
That's a tough line, but I support it.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on August 23, 2021, 11:42:47 AM
Looks to me like teams better ensure they're 100% vaccinated...
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Gigem on August 23, 2021, 04:40:15 PM
Frost has always had the talent according to recruiting rankings, it's about the culture and discipline and execution

season 4, it's time to show up
Ain’t going to happen. It violates my 3 season rule. All they’re gonna be is what they are by their third season. Loosely it means that if they’re not competing for championships and playing at a high level they probably never will. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 23, 2021, 05:20:37 PM
Ain’t going to happen. It violates my 3 season rule. All they’re gonna be is what they are by their third season. Loosely it means that if they’re not competing for championships and playing at a high level they probably never will.
King Barry hit it big in his 4th season in Madison.

1-10, 5-6, 5-6, ROSE BOWL CHAMPS!!


(https://i.imgur.com/y9i7OY0.jpg)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 23, 2021, 05:33:06 PM
Ain’t going to happen. It violates my 3 season rule. All they’re gonna be is what they are by their third season. Loosely it means that if they’re not competing for championships and playing at a high level they probably never will.
rules are made to be broken

especially if season 3 was 2020
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: ELA on August 23, 2021, 08:36:38 PM
https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1429864651093733376?s=19
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on August 23, 2021, 09:18:44 PM

Given that Georgia now ranks above Ohio State on the Blue-chip ratio, I believe the Bulldogs are out of excuses, they need to win big this season, or quit talking about being an elite football power. 

Kirby Smart is a terrific recruiter, that hasn’t done very much with all the accumulated talent. I have listened to many podcasts, getting ready for the current season, and when they discuss coaches and win totals, there is an upward adjustment for Pat Fitzgerald (usually exceeds expectations), and a negative adjustment for Kirby Smart (he finds ways to lose games he should win). 

Georgia is loaded from a personnel standpoint, with an experienced QB, which is rare at the elite schools this season, and they start out by playing Clemson (a huge game), but when I would expect to see swagger from a team this talented, I hear and read doubt (about injuries, about Clemson, about winning). Clemson is one of the elite teams, but their final game showed that they were very beatable, so I don’t understand the lack of confidence that I am hearing from the Georgia program going into this season. The rest of the SEC East powers are looking like this may be a down year (opportunity).



Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 23, 2021, 09:24:13 PM
what is winning big?

Only 2 losses - Clemson and Bama

Only one loss - Clemson or Bama 

undefeated #1 seed going into the playoff

or winning the playoff with 2, or 1, or undefeated?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 23, 2021, 09:27:12 PM
Florida is planning on using Bowman (5* Clemson transfer) in a Percy Harvin role - getting reps at RB and WR.  
We have plenty of stars in the backfield, but it won't mean much if the OL can't run-block.  
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on August 23, 2021, 09:30:05 PM
what is winning big?

Only 2 losses - Clemson and Bama

Only one loss - Clemson or Bama

undefeated #1 seed going into the playoff

or winning the playoff with 2, or 1, or undefeated?
For Georgia, it's 1980, 1980, 1980.  
I was born in 1980...and getting older by the day.  They need a NC.  
Since they won it, Florida has 3, Auburn has 1, Bama has 37, GA freakin' Tech has one, Clemson has 3, Tennessee has one, FSU has 3......I mean, for Georgia fans, the past 40 years has to feel like Oprah's straddling Stone Mountain giving away natties.....but they haven't gotten one.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: BuckeyeAvenger on August 23, 2021, 09:40:06 PM
I think two losses would be unacceptable, even if they were to Clemson and Alabama. Losing to both is losing the hard games on their schedule, which hardly seems elite. Losing one game hurts, when you are as talented as Georgia appears to be, but losing both would keep them out of the playoff, and that result would have to be viewed as a major failure by Georgia. This season appears tailor made for Georgia to have a needed breakthrough. If not now, when?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: bayareabadger on August 23, 2021, 09:43:02 PM
Given that Georgia now ranks above Ohio State on the Blue-chip ratio, I believe the Bulldogs are out of excuses, they need to win big this season, or quit talking about being an elite football power.

Kirby Smart is a terrific recruiter, that hasn’t done very much with all the accumulated talent. I have listened to many podcasts, getting ready for the current season, and when they discuss coaches and win totals, there is an upward adjustment for Pat Fitzgerald (usually exceeds expectations), and a negative adjustment for Kirby Smart (he finds ways to lose games he should win).





I think Kirby is pretty much a shit and meddles in his offense, but they have done a good bit by most measures. They've won 83 percent of their games since 2017. Nearly half their losses came to Bama or that great LSU team.

I think at a point they'll start looking around because you don't fire someone as successful as Mark Richt to be only a step better, but, I mean, there's only one way they're going to quiet critics, which is to fell Bama, and failing to do that does not mean a team hasn't done much. (Lord, why is the world making me say nice things about Kirby. Look at that haircut)
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 23, 2021, 10:35:10 PM
what is winning big?
National championship or shithole. Only two outcomes in CFB :57:
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 24, 2021, 09:44:25 AM
If the Dawgs drop the first one, they almost have to win out.  Granted, a 11-2 SEC Champ would probably make the playoffs.

I half expect they will lose one to "South Carolina" or something.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 24, 2021, 09:46:52 AM
Your thoughts?


  • Will it seem fairly normal with tailgating and full capacities?
  • What does your top ten look like at the moment?
  • What are pluses and minuses for your team, and where would you rank them?
  • What is the toughest out on your schedule?
  • What is a sleeper team quasi-forgotten you think could make a run for the top ten?
  • What is an asleep highly regarded team you think could slide to 9-4ish?
I think it will be fairly normal now.  That is great.
My top ten looks like everyone else's, though I am suspect on A&M and UNC.
Plus is a lot of offense coming back, minus is three injured starters in camp.
Clemson, but really it's UF.
I don't know.
A&M, UNC, Iowa State, Cincy
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 25, 2021, 08:01:06 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VsADk7p.png)


University of Rutgers...
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: EastAthens on August 25, 2021, 08:16:10 AM
Given that Georgia now ranks above Ohio State on the Blue-chip ratio, I believe the Bulldogs are out of excuses, they need to win big this season, or quit talking about being an elite football power.

Kirby Smart is a terrific recruiter, that hasn’t done very much with all the accumulated talent. I have listened to many podcasts, getting ready for the current season, and when they discuss coaches and win totals, there is an upward adjustment for Pat Fitzgerald (usually exceeds expectations), and a negative adjustment for Kirby Smart (he finds ways to lose games he should win).

Georgia is loaded from a personnel standpoint, with an experienced QB, which is rare at the elite schools this season, and they start out by playing Clemson (a huge game), but when I would expect to see swagger from a team this talented, I hear and read doubt (about injuries, about Clemson, about winning). Clemson is one of the elite teams, but their final game showed that they were very beatable, so I don’t understand the lack of confidence that I am hearing from the Georgia program going into this season. The rest of the SEC East powers are looking like this may be a down year (opportunity).




Just curious: where did you hear any lack of confidence coming out of the UGA program?  Everybody down here thinks this should be the year.  All Kirby has been missing is a qb good enough to match the rest of the roster and we think he has found one at least good enough not to be a glaring weakness.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Honestbuckeye on August 25, 2021, 08:19:10 AM
National championship or shithole. Only two outcomes in CFB :57:
😂😂.  You have really optimized use of the word “shithole”
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Benthere2 on August 25, 2021, 10:24:59 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/VsADk7p.png)


University of Rutgers...
good luck finding a school that wont eventually have this requirement along with the many other immunizations that are already on the list to get into schools
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 25, 2021, 11:19:46 AM
So, this kid committed to Texas, then decommitted, committed to Baylor, enrolled, entered the portal, transferred to Rutgers, and now is in the portal again. and he didn't even know the proper name of the school he's been at for 18 months.


He's gonna end up at Liberty, or something.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2021, 11:26:38 AM
the vaccine might not be the issue
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 25, 2021, 10:10:47 PM
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Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2021, 08:29:02 AM
A thing I dislike about schedule difficulty is that they count bad teams better than really bad teams.  A top five team will wipe up any bad team just as well as a really bad team, doesn't matter whether it's Akron or Charleston.  An Alabama can look at their schedule and usually see ca. 7 definite 99.99999% wins, whether it's ULL or Charleston S. doesn't matter.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2021, 09:56:49 AM
Here’s where the B1G Network Tailgate pregame show will be for Weeks 1-3:
Week 1: No. 17 Indiana vs. No. 18 Iowa – Southeast Corner of Kinnick Stadium

Week 2: Youngstown State at Michigan State – Munn Field

Week 3: Northern Illinois at Michigan – Pioneer High School, Southwest of Michigan Stadium

This marks the sixth season for the B1G Network Tailgate pregame show. The show is hosted by Dave Revsine and includes analysts Gerry DiNardo, Howard Griffith and Joshua Perry. Former first-team All-Big Ten safety Brock Vereen is joining this season as an analyst and Annie Sabo is now on board as an additional host.

The B1G Network Tailgate pregame show airs on Saturday mornings from 10 a.m. ET to noon ET.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2021, 09:58:19 AM
How many here watch these pregame shows?  I stopped maybe 15 years back, I realize they can be entertaining at times, but not very edifying.

Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2021, 10:14:46 AM
usually on just for background noise until kickoff

might catch a few interesting comments

I get better comments here
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: GopherRock on August 26, 2021, 10:48:43 AM
How many here watch these pregame shows?  I stopped maybe 15 years back, I realize they can be entertaining at times, but not very edifying.


Not anymore. If it's a home game day we're down on the Flats drinking and throwing buckets.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on August 26, 2021, 11:17:30 AM
I don't anymore, either.  Generally I'm at home either exercising or doing chores right up until gametime.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2021, 11:51:12 AM
exercising?!?!?
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: utee94 on August 26, 2021, 11:57:50 AM
exercising?!?!?
Yup, Saturday mornings are one of the few times I have a decent block of time.  I typically run 3-5 miles and work in some resistance training every Saturday morning.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 26, 2021, 12:04:43 PM
LSU has announced that they will require all Tiger Stadium guests 12 years of age and older to provide proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 PCR test taken within 72 hours prior to entry for games this fall.

The decision by LSU comes after consultation with – and support from – Governor John Bel Edwards, LSU President William F. Tate IV, LSU’s Board of Supervisors, Tiger Athletic Foundation, and Director of Athletics Scott Woodward.

“As the flagship institution of the state of Louisiana, our foremost responsibility is to ensure the safety of our students, our supporters, and our community,” Tate said. “While we are aware of the diverse perspectives across the nation regarding masks and vaccinations, we must take all reasonable measures to protect our campus and community, not only on gamedays, but long after guests have left Tiger Stadium. The current threat to our lives, our health, and to our medical systems due to COVID-19 is overburdening our hospitals, and we must do our part to stop the spread.”

The policy takes effect on September 11th for the home football opener against McNeese State.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Cincydawg on August 26, 2021, 03:30:09 PM
ESPN’s College GameDay to descend on rapidly developing Summerhill | Urbanize Atlanta (https://urbanize.city/atlanta/post/college-gameday-espn-season-preview-saturday-hbcu-summerhill)

Interesting, this is where Ga State plays, Turner Field where the Braves used to play.  I could go down and get in TV with an orange wig.

Atlanta’s Summerhill will be thrust onto the national stage this weekend in a way that celebrates the neighborhood’s Black history, recent revival, and the launch of college football in the sport’s Southern capital.
ESPN’s College GameDay will broadcast a live, three-hour season preview show from Summerhill’s Center Parc Stadium beginning at 9 a.m. Saturday, officials announced today.
The show will air in advance of the Cricket MEAC/SWAC Challenge Kickoff (https://www.meacswacchallenge.com/) hosted at the former Turner Field stadium this year, featuring two Historically Black Colleges and Universities, North Carolina Central University and Alcorn State University.


Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 27, 2021, 11:57:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPl3lC35ZA
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2021, 12:18:30 PM
usually on just for background noise until kickoff

might catch a few interesting comments

I get better more entertaining comments here
FIFY
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: MrNubbz on August 27, 2021, 12:21:37 PM
exercising?!?!?
It's a bastardization of Golf
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 27, 2021, 01:21:06 PM
Hey, Purdue has finally named a starting QB!

Jack Plummer. 

This is one of Brohm's first and prized QB recruits. Sindelar and Blough were pre-Brohm, but Plummer was the QB that he put a hard press on to get. 

Hopefully we've got an OL that can keep him upright and open some holes in the run game to take a little pressure off. 
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on August 27, 2021, 09:36:58 PM
It's a bastardization of Golf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPl3lC35ZA
douche
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: bayareabadger on August 27, 2021, 09:40:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aPl3lC35ZA
This is why video sucks. 

I just want a nice list of what someone said so I can quickly scan and ignore it. Seven minutes?!? I mean, I figured out how to quickly get through, but I didn't want to.
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 27, 2021, 09:55:21 PM
This is why video sucks.

I just want a nice list of what someone said so I can quickly scan and ignore it. Seven minutes?!? I mean, I figured out how to quickly get through, but I didn't want to.
Just double the speed. :098:
Title: Re: The 2021 CFB Season
Post by: FearlessF on September 03, 2021, 03:24:44 PM
2021 Rules Changes


Overtime 2-Point Conversion Requirements
Teams will be required to run a 2-point conversion play after a touchdown when a game reaches a second overtime period. Previously, a 2-point attempt was required after the third overtime period. Also, if the game reaches a third overtime, teams will run alternating 2-point plays, instead of starting another drive at the opponent's 25-yard line. This is a change from the previous rule, which started to use 2-point plays in the fifth overtime period. This rules change is being made to limit the number of plays from scrimmage and bring the game to a quicker conclusion. Teams can still choose whether to kick the point after touchdown or run a 2-point conversion play during the first overtime period.

Team Area
The team area will be permanently extended to the 20-yard lines, starting in the 2021 season. Previously, the team area extended to the 25-yard lines, but this area was expanded to the 15-yard lines last season to create more spacing due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

Unsportsmanlike Tactics
Video board and lighting system operators have been included in those personnel who may not create any distraction that obstructs play.

Feigning injuries
A new framework has been created to allow a school or conference to request a postgame video review about questionable actions through the NCAA secretary-rules editor/national coordinator of officials.

Instant Replay – Clock Adjustments
In order to keep the game moving, when Instant Replay overturns a call on the field, The clock will only be reset when there is less than two minutes remaining in the 2nd quarter and less than five minutes remaining in the 4th quarter.


Points of Emphasis:
For the 2021 season, targeting and dangerous contact fouls will continue to be a priority for all officials.  The NCAA Football Rules Committee continues to embrace the targeting rule to promote player safety and reduce head contact.
It will be a point of emphasis for officials to penalize any taunting action directed toward an opponent. Committee members think these actions reflect poorly on the game and can lead to unnecessary confrontations.
Officials are directed to be alert to players who are significantly in violation of uniform rules and to send violators out of the game to correct the issue. This will include specifically the pants, jerseys and T-shirts that extend below the torso.
Coaches should not enter the field of play or leave the team area to debate officiating decisions. Those who do so will have committed an automatic unsportsmanlike conduct foul.