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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Cincydawg on March 09, 2021, 03:35:50 PM
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So, I'm old, so it's been a while, the 1950s and 1960s for me. My first school did not have air conditioning, aside from open windows. Our TV of course was B&W until about 1968 when we got color, the color was bad, and you had to tweak the antennae any time you changed the channel, by turning a dial. We had two TV stations in Augusta, Atlanta had three, then a UHF station, and PBS. That was Big Time.
The Sunday sports section had photos of big plays in the football game. Otherwise, it was radio. Our first car with AC was a 1965 Chevy Malibu, it had a two speed transmission called Powerglide.
On occasion, Dad would bring home a bucket of KFC, that was Big Time. I had my first pizza when I was 16. I got so bored the summer between 6th and 7th grade I started reading the World Book Encyclopedia, our internet of the day. I got all the way to W. Don't ask me about X-rays or yttrium.
I had a passbook savings account. Every bank paid the same rate of interest, I think it was 4.25%. I got a quarter a week allowance, later the neighbor paid me a dollar to mow his grass.
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You left out walking to school,5 miles......up hill - both ways,in 2 ft of snow - in Georgia
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when I was a kid we never locked our front door except at night
the car keys were kept in the cars ignition
during the summer I could leave the house and be gone all day without missing persons being called
the main rules I grew up under were:
never lie and
do what youre told when youre told to do it
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You've never Lied?Call me skeptical - rephrase that to never get caught in one
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You've never Lied?Call me skeptical - rephrase that to never get caught in one
sure I did but I quickly learned the possible consequences made it highly unpleasant
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You've never Lied?Call me skeptical - rephrase that to never get caught in one
In fairness, he said it was a rule. He never said he didn’t break it. I think “Never lie to me” is pretty much a universal parental rule.
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Sure it is I'd slip an occasional one in there to save my skin.Definately don't play the folks for fools as I was the last of 5 they heard them all before...but I still had to try
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when I was a kid we never locked our front door except at night
the car keys were kept in the cars ignition
during the summer I could leave the house and be gone all day without missing persons being called
the main rules I grew up under were:
never lie and
do what youre told when youre told to do it
We never locked our doors at all. Like, ever.
Rode a bike without a helmet.
Rode in the back of pickup trucks.
Here’s the thing though. Why? This is common sense stuff. I had wonderful parents but there was no reason to never lock a door. There was no reason to let your kids ride in the back of trucks. My parents should have kept better tabs on me when I was 10, 11, 12, years old.
Idk. Older generations sort of scoff at kids these days as soft or parents as being overprotective, but a lot of it is just good parenting, imo. My parents let me do stuff I’d never let my kids do.
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We never locked our doors at all. Like, ever.
Rode a bike without a helmet.
Rode in the back of pickup trucks.
Here’s the thing though. Why? This is common sense stuff. I had wonderful parents but there was no reason to never lock a door. There was no reason to let your kids ride in the back of trucks. My parents should have kept better tabs on me when I was 10, 11, 12, years old.
Idk. Older generations sort of scoff at kids these days as soft or parents as being overprotective, but a lot of it is just good parenting, imo. My parents let me do stuff I’d never let my kids do.
I never owned a helmet
we never had central air even in our schools except for the teachers lounge and the cafeteria
worked summer jobs from age 16 on for college
just like sandlot we had a neighborhood baseball team
we used to break into the high school baseball park when it wasnt being used
sometimes the police would chase us away (we knew all of them by name and they knew all of us by name)
sometimes the police would just sit in their car and watch us
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I don't think anyone rode a bike with a helmet. I don't know if one could buy a bike helmet anywhere back then.
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The general public didn't wear helmets that's for sure. I didn't, until my upper teens/20s when I was regularly road-cycling 30-50 miles per day.
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To borrow from my Dad, who had this to say about growing up in the 50s: "Marijuana, Cocaine, and Heroin were foreign words. Nowadays you mention them to start conversations at Circle K. The only drug users were Bikers and Jazz Musicians and everyone else went to church."
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when I was a kid the world wasn't overrun by pussies.
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To borrow from my Dad, who had this to say about growing up in the 50s: "Marijuana, Cocaine, and Heroin were foreign words. Nowadays you mention them to start conversations at Circle K. The only drug users were Bikers and Jazz Musicians and everyone else went to church."
I wish coke was still cola, and a joint was a bad place to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxLtXJzo3Ew
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I was not aware of any hard drug use in my high school
all kinds of liquor use but no hard drugs
now there was the time a friend of mine got into trouble sniffing glue
but thats about it
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I DON'T KNOW!
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I forgot about glue sniffing. I used to build models (rather badly), fighters and whatnot usually. I recall when you couldn't just buy glue. It smelled pretty good actually, but I never wanted to get high on the fumes.
I once was doing a hot recrystallization using ethanol as solvent and very suddenly got drunk, really drunk, really fast, breathing fumes. About 5 minutes later I was sober, but I had to sit down.
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I DON'T KNOW!
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The best kid show ever
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The best kid show ever
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There for a while they had every episode up on you tube, and I definitely binge watched the whole series. Glad I did too, because they are all gone now.
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There for a while they had every episode up on you tube, and I definitely binge watched the whole series. Glad I did too, because they are all gone now.
whats the name of the show
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NSFW...
But it's basically Badge's PoA theory:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_q3SP-__GI
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whats the name of the show
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I didnt ever watch that one My kid show days were way before that one
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You had to be a child of the 80s for that one.
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I didnt ever watch that one My kid show days were way before that one
Yup. This was an 80s show, a kids' sketch comedy type of thing. It was Canadian in origin and ran on Nickelodeon here in the States.
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As a kid I thought that Nickelodeon had a bunch of original content, but it just seemed that way because they imported programming from other Anglophone countries; Danger Mouse, Banana Man and Count Duckula, all British. etc.
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Good Lord. I had forgotten all about that show.
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still don't lock the doors on my house
even at night
some of the hard core glue sniffers fried their brains
I heard the metallic spray paint was the good stuff
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I never owned a helmet
we never had central air even in our schools except for the teachers lounge and the cafeteria
worked summer jobs from age 16 on for college
just like sandlot we had a neighborhood baseball team
we used to break into the high school baseball park when it wasnt being used
sometimes the police would chase us away (we knew all of them by name and they knew all of us by name)
sometimes the police would just sit in their car and watch us
I alway wonder how much of this, plus the unlocked doors and whatnot, comes down to a sense of awareness about the world.
Like, our perspectives are smaller. Back then, we felt like the rest of the world was pretty far away. Now we feel like it's super close (well, not we, as I had web browsers when I was like 8).
I think about this and how it changes in a specific area with stranger danger in the 1980s. The world for a lot of people was not considerably more dangerous that in previous decades (at least a lot of people who got super afraid of strangers). But the threat of strangers to your kids felt so much more real, in part fueled by rabid consumption of cable TV. It's ironic because the chances of a stranger doing something terrible to your kid are far lower than you or a relative/trusted friend doing something terrible to them, but that's another story.
Anyway, I dunno. I grew up in ... we'll call it a city. Certianly as dense as a place with building height limits could be. I was mostly allowed to walk around town with minimal oversight pretty early. Can't put an exact age on it. I'm sure some wouldn't be about that with the modest amount of homeless people around, but whatever.
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Driving home from an early morning visit to the gym the other day I passed six or seven bus stops. At the first one I saw a group of what appeared to be about six or seven middle school aged kids and just happened to notice that every single one of them was standing there just staring down at their cell phone. As I continued to drive home I started checking and I’ll be damned if the roughly 40 kids I saw weren’t 100% on their cell phones.
Now this isn’t anything new for any of us as we all see this all the time, especially if you go somewhere like an airport. But the stark reality of it hit me hard as I could not believe that not one of those children was socializing with another or playing or laughing- but just staring at their phone.
I am not passing judgment on if that is good or bad, but just shockingly different from 45 years ago when I was that age, and what is so different about our world today.
Ironically- I sit here in my back patio area, enjoying my morning coffee- writing this post on MY CELL PHONE.
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Ironically- I sit here in my back patio area, enjoying my morning coffee- writing this post on MY CELL PHONE.
Fine example you are
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still don't lock the doors on my house
even at night
Ya well the neighbors saw you outside beating on the ground with Ben Hogan Clubs for no apparent reason
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Driving home from an early morning visit to the gym the other day I passed six or seven bus stops. At the first one I saw a group of what appeared to be about six or seven middle school aged kids and just happened to notice that every single one of them was standing there just staring down at their cell phone. As I continued to drive home I started checking and I’ll be damned if the roughly 40 kids I saw weren’t 100% on their cell phones.
Now this isn’t anything new for any of us as we all see this all the time, especially if you go somewhere like an airport. But the stark reality of it hit me hard as I could not believe that not one of those children was socializing with another or playing or laughing- but just staring at their phone.
Heard on a morning radio show the story about a 7th grade drama teacher. He was trying to work with his students and set up a scene for them to work in where they were passing notes in class...
They were very confused and it took a lot of time until he figured out why: they don't have to do that in the days of cell phones. They literally didn't understand the concept.
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I wasn't a note passer when I was a kid.
That was for the girls that couldn't read lips.
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Yup only girls passed notes in my schools.
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no note passing here
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My neighbor told me he left for six weeks once and forgot to lock his door.
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Boys would just make fake notes with which to distribute paper cuts to those who were sissy enough to want to read them.
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You're missing the point. Boys still understood the cultural idea of "passing notes" even if it was mostly a "girl thing".
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You're missing the point. Boys still understood the cultural idea of "passing notes" even if it was mostly a "girl thing".
Oh no I get it for sure. That's actually a very funny, and illuminating, story.
Personally, I was just commenting that *I* never passed notes, really only girls did that at my schools, because I didn't want anyone to mistake me for a sissy girl. I'm sure you understand... :)
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I wasn't a note passer when I was a kid.
Only during test time - I could put the Encyclopedia Brittanica on the inside of a match book cover
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If someone mistakes me for a sissy girl, I don't care, or feel any need to correct them, or worry about it.
I have that much confidence in myself.
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yup, I'm very rarely confused for a sissy
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when I was a kid drive in theaters was a big deal
lots of stuff happened at the drive in
you could go steady with a girl and break up with her in the same night
the drive in was kinda like a high school board meeting
you had groups attending like the jocks the nerds and oh yes the cheerleaders
I was kind of a delegate at large as I was connected to both the jock group and the nerd group
another group of mention was the band group
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always smuggled in via the trunk
almost always a fight, usually over girls
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I recall going to Dairy Queen after a win in Little League. Not if we lost. Baseball was big around us.
We bought a new house when we moved to Atlanta that had no central AC. We had a large window unit in the den and a whole house fan. 1964. Four bedroom house with half basement but no AC. My parents added central air in 1968 or so. I thought it was a waste of money at the time.
A lot of houses in that era had no basement, they had a crawl space. There also were a lot of split levels, it was popular at the time. My dad didn't want stairs.
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I would have been in the "nerd" group in HS, but I basically dropped out of the HS social scene entirely.
That was my group during school hours, but after school I spent huge amounts of time at my martial arts school. For good portions of my time during HS I was there 4-6 days a week, between my own classes, teaching classes, etc. Particularly my sophomore year as I was preparing for my black belt test, and my senior year as I was preparing for my 2nd degree test. That was my social circle far more than almost anyone in my HS except for a tiny handful of close friends.
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lived in a basement house until about 1970. That's when my father built the upper level.
didn't get central air until about 1976
didn't have any window A/C units, just fans. Could always go to the basement to sleep
usually celebrated my birthday in July outside someplace in the shade
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Group dynamics in high school are somewhat interesting.
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small class of 53 kids
I could relate and slide in and out of all groups.
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If someone mistakes me for a sissy girl, I don't care, or feel any need to correct them, or worry about it.
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Spoken like a true sissy girl!
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small class of 53 kids
I could relate and slide in and out of all groups.
My graduating class was around 500 lol..
It's strange that I'm one of those people who can fit in with just about any social group, but I don't feel like I belong to any of them...
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We had 313 at graduation, if memory serves. I played baseball and basketball so I was somewhat a jock. Then I also took upper level classes. I was not in the popular crowd though.
We had courses either 1 level, 2, or 3, the 3 being toughest. I was poorly prepared for college, my own fault.
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class of 53, no offering for advanced math classes
I was poorly prepared for Engineering College
not my fault
the school did have more than one room
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We didn't have A/C, but when my older brother was a teen and had a paper route and other odd jobs, he saved up and bought a window A/C unit for his room. Lol! Suddenly we took interest in hanging out in his room during the rare scorcher nights in SE WI. This was summer of '88 which was brutal.
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smart brother
he should have also charged for admission to his room
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growing up we never had central air
My dad installed one after I left home
Thanks a lot Dad
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My graduating class was around 500 lol..
It's strange that I'm one of those people who can fit in with just about any social group, but I don't feel like I belong to any of them...
Same here. I was cool with all the different clicks.
My main set of friends were all sports nerds - I was the only one who actually played football. One of them played baseball, but just FR year. Another was in band.
I was in all of the honors classes, so I was cool with the smart kids -many of which were in the cool kids group. Jocks, band geeks, black kids, artists - I could hang out with any of them. The only group of any size I didn't really know anyone or hang out with was the drama kids. Turns out years later that the drama teacher was getting frisky with some of them, so there's that.
My SR class was around 350.
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I think about this and how it changes in a specific area with stranger danger in the 1980s. The world for a lot of people was not considerably more dangerous that in previous decades (at least a lot of people who got super afraid of strangers). But the threat of strangers to your kids felt so much more real, in part fueled by rabid consumption of cable TV. It's ironic because the chances of a stranger doing something terrible to your kid are far lower than you or a relative/trusted friend doing something terrible to them, but that's another story.
I grew up during the kidnapping panic of the 70s and 80s and, I've looked back on it and realized what caused it and how fundamentally silly the whole thing was, allow me to explain:
When you think of kidnapping, you probably think of a stranger. This is true for most people which explains the fact that when the authorities saw a massive increase in kidnappings, they started the "Stranger Danger" campaign in an effort to teach kids not to get into vans with creepy looking guys who offered them candy. That makes sense if you are working under the assumption that the kidnappings are by strange, creepy looking guys offering candy.
The irony is that the increase in kidnappings was NOT due to a sudden inexplicable increase in creepy guys offering candy to kids. It was something else entirely:
In 1960 the US Divorce rate was rough 2 per 100,000 people. It started climbing in the mid 1960's and roughly tripled by the late 1970s/early 1980s.
It is hard to tell exactly how much, but it is likely that nearly all of the observed increase in kidnappings was due to custody battles. In 1960 divorce was quite rare. Modern, "no fault" divorce didn't come along in most states until much later so back then one party had to allege a wrong committed by the other then prove it. Under the modern "no fault" regime that went away. If a couple can't stand each other then they can just get a divorce.
When divorce skyrocketed, custody battles ensued. Nearly all of the increase in kidnappings was caused by the non-custodial parent (usually dad) picking up the kid without the custodial parent's (usually mom's) permission.
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guess the kidnapping panic never made it to Iowa
never heard of it
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I don't believe the past was a safer time, just a less-reported time. A news-only-spreads-so-far time.
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With all those unlocked doors, yeah, messed-up stuff was going on.
And don't even get me started with the in-family horrors going on back then that went unreported.
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The modern day isn't more dangerous, just more informed.
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I grew up during the kidnapping panic of the 70s and 80s and, I've looked back on it and realized what caused it and how fundamentally silly the whole thing was, allow me to explain:
When you think of kidnapping, you probably think of a stranger. This is true for most people which explains the fact that when the authorities saw a massive increase in kidnappings, they started the "Stranger Danger" campaign in an effort to teach kids not to get into vans with creepy looking guys who offered them candy. That makes sense if you are working under the assumption that the kidnappings are by strange, creepy looking guys offering candy.
The irony is that the increase in kidnappings was NOT due to a sudden inexplicable increase in creepy guys offering candy to kids. It was something else entirely:
In 1960 the US Divorce rate was rough 2 per 100,000 people. It started climbing in the mid 1960's and roughly tripled by the late 1970s/early 1980s.
It is hard to tell exactly how much, but it is likely that nearly all of the observed increase in kidnappings was due to custody battles. In 1960 divorce was quite rare. Modern, "no fault" divorce didn't come along in most states until much later so back then one party had to allege a wrong committed by the other then prove it. Under the modern "no fault" regime that went away. If a couple can't stand each other then they can just get a divorce.
When divorce skyrocketed, custody battles ensued. Nearly all of the increase in kidnappings was caused by the non-custodial parent (usually dad) picking up the kid without the custodial parent's (usually mom's) permission.
Yep. My ex's dad was with the LAPD, and for a while he was involved in kidnapping cases. I recall once seeing in his house a manual on kidnapping, and I remarked that hopefully it was about catching kidnappers, and not a how-to manual :57:
But in truth, his job was actually pretty boring. Actual kidnappings where someone sends a ransom note or something like that--what we've seen on TV--were basically FBI matters.
His job was basically tracking down people who fled the state or county with kids they weren't supposed to have based on custody battles, traveling there, working with the local judges to secure an order to get the local cops to go retrieve the kids and turn them over to him, and to transport them back to LA County.
He enjoyed it, because it was free travel, and was probably a lot more interesting than plenty of other assignments he could have had. But it wasn't what most people think of when they hear the word "kidnapping".
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Driving home from an early morning visit to the gym the other day I passed six or seven bus stops. At the first one I saw a group of what appeared to be about six or seven middle school aged kids and just happened to notice that every single one of them was standing there just staring down at their cell phone. As I continued to drive home I started checking and I’ll be damned if the roughly 40 kids I saw weren’t 100% on their cell phones.
Now this isn’t anything new for any of us as we all see this all the time, especially if you go somewhere like an airport. But the stark reality of it hit me hard as I could not believe that not one of those children was socializing with another or playing or laughing- but just staring at their phone.
I am not passing judgment on if that is good or bad, but just shockingly different from 45 years ago when I was that age, and what is so different about our world today.
Ironically- I sit here in my back patio area, enjoying my morning coffee- writing this post on MY CELL PHONE.
I think there have been two humongous changes for HS kids within my lifetime. The first was the explosion of the internet from a "geeks only" domain prior to Netscape Navigator into something for everyone soon after Netscape's release in 1994 and the second was the explosion of smart phones.
The Internet:
Netscape Navigator was released in 1994. Prior to that the internet was well outside of the mainstream. I graduated from HS in the early 1990's and I've said before that I think my HS experience was more similar to that of people 20-30 years older who graduated in 1963-1973 than it was to people 5-10 years younger who graduated in 1998-2003.
Cell phones and then smart phones:
I didn't have a cell phone until my final quarter at Ohio State and the only reason I got one then was so that I would have voicemail in case any potential employers called. Then, after I graduated, I went back to no cell phone for a couple years before I finally got one permanently in about 2000. Even at that, my circa 2000 phone was just a phone, I couldn't even text.
When I was in HS I didn't know any HS students who had phones and only a very few parents did. I saw a rerun of Cheers a while back in which some boyfriend of Diane's was being presented as a pretentious jerk and one of the ways that the show made that point was for the character to use his cell phone (which was a HUGE device) to call for some reason or another. It took me a second glance to recall that time to get the joke.
I think that this is another tectonic shift in the experience of HS Students. The comment above about modern kids having no concept of passing notes in class illustrates this point. Everyone my age, whether we passed notes ourselves or not, was clearly aware of the concept. Now why bother. Everyone has a cellphone so you can send a text and all the cellphones are smart so you can send an email or whatever the kids are using these days.
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Yeah, I'm technically GenX but in what they call the "Xennial" generation. The bulk of GenX didn't have the internet until adulthood. The bulk of Millenials never really remember what it was like not to have the internet. It was already there when they were growing up.
Xennial is basically analog childhood to mid-teen years, digital teenage/college world and beyond. We're the ones who really grew up and came of age right at the time where the internet became A Thing™.
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kids these days don't understand the idea of ethernet cables
everything is "wireless"
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nothing like that when I was that age
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Yeah, I'm technically GenX but in what they call the "Xennial" generation. The bulk of GenX didn't have the internet until adulthood. The bulk of Millenials never really remember what it was like not to have the internet. It was already there when they were growing up.
Xennial is basically analog childhood to mid-teen years, digital teenage/college world and beyond. We're the ones who really grew up and came of age right at the time where the internet became A Thing™.
The speed of the change is also fascinating to me.
My brother is 5.5 years younger than me, and was six grades behind me. When I started at Ohio State in the fall of 1993 only one guy on my entire floor of about 100 had a pc and there were obviously no laptops, tablets, smartphones, etc. There were two word processors which you might be familiar with and kids of today would have no concept of. Word processors were like half a computer. You typed a document into them and they printed it. They had a tiny screen that showed a few lines of text but this was a HUGE improvement on typewriters because you could actually make changes to the document without starting over.
Six years later when I helped move my brother to Ohio State in the fall of 1999 he and his three roommates had a combined total of six computers because everybody had a PC and two of the four had laptops as well.
I realize that is only an anecdote and not solid data but I would guess that it is somewhere near correct overall and based on that we went from:
- 0.01 computers per student in 1993 to
- 1.5 computers per student in 1999
Even if my anecdote is off by a LOT, the difference is still enormous.
My parents bought their first PC right about the time I left for college and I never owned my own PC or laptop while I was in college so the first time I had a PC of my own was after I graduated. Amazing how much different that world was from this one.
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I'm a couple years older than Zack Morris. I didn't know anyone in high school that had one of those, but my best friend's dad did have one of these in his car (a Mercedes convertible):
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lol, we literally called those brick cell phones the "Zach Morris phone"......my dad had the bag phone in his truck. I was pretty lucky - we had a PC with AOL and all that as soon as I was entering high school.
I took a typing class FR year of HS.....I think that would blow kids away today - that adults would take typing classes, or that I did in HS.
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Today, kindergarten teachers have to be mindful to have students physically write with a paper and pencil so that it is not a lost skill - more so with this online-only year.
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I'm a couple years older than Zack Morris. I didn't know anyone in high school that had one of those, but my best friend's dad did have one of these in his car (a Mercedes convertible):
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this was my first cell phone, installed in the company truck back in 1997 when I took this job
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Boy, do I ever feel old now. Just for background - I was born in 1954 and spent the first year of my life on a farm, then up until high school I lived in multiple towns the biggest of which was a population of maybe 5000 and that was in my high school years. First seven years of school my town was maybe 1000, probably less. No hot lunch program so we took our own lunch (my favorite lunchbox had the Beatles on it, of course).
Anyhoo --
First Tv was when I was in first grade - first color tv was just before the moon landing in 1969. We had the old console television with rabbit ears (you have to hold them just right!) and two channels - NBC and CBS with occasional glimpses of ABC until my 9th grade year when we got the color tv. We could not watch television until after supper and homework was done. Bedtime was early enough that we missed prime time shows like Gunsmoke because we were in bed - windows wide open because no AC - none in the schools or churches either, so we had to fight bees and other flying insects coming in the windows, lol.
Summers were spent outside all day - going to the library or swimming pool and sometimes playing football or baseball in the clover field across the alley from my house. Every neighbor kept an eye on all the kids and your parents knew what you were doing way before you ever got home - when it got dark, of course. Our neighborhood was equal opportunity punishers - you got caught doing something wrong, whoever caught you punished you - usually a swat on the behind and the knowledge they were going to call your folks who would dole out the real punishment. Get into a fight in your house, my mom always made all four us kids face the wall and not say a word to the others for about 15 minutes - then we had to apologize and hug each other.
My first car was after I got married. Before that, I always walked to school. Did not have a job except babysitting on weekends if my grades were good. Turned in glass pop bottles for extra cash. With a dollar, I could get a comic book, a candy bar and a soda and still have some left over, lol.
Our cars did not have seatbelts and were not required by law until well after I got out of high school. We often rode in the back of pickup trucks and if I remember correctly, child seats were cheaply made and once you were a certain height / weight you did not have to use them, which meant my oldest child had to use a seat when her younger brothers didn't because she was so small. Now you practically have to be a rocket scientist to figure out how to latch your kid in.
Never locked our doors and we all walked in and out of each other's homes all the time. Just a quick knock and pop in to visit. Actual real time conversations with people face to face! People would sit on their front porches and visit back and forth while the kids ran all over the neighborhood.
I do miss the innocence of those days and the friendships I had. One reason my husband and I (along with my sister) are buying a home and moving to a smaller city this spring. Lincoln is just too big for us. Lots of conveniences, but a lack of personal touches with neighbors. I will be close enough to Lincoln to drive in once a month or so for major shopping trips if needed, but am looking forward to a smaller town atmosphere.
The only good thing about life currently is the ability to keep in contact with my kids and grandkids who all live far away through Facebook and instant messaging. The bad thing is no one ever sits down and writes a letter anymore.
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The speed of the change is also fascinating to me.
My brother is 5.5 years younger than me, and was six grades behind me. When I started at Ohio State in the fall of 1993 only one guy on my entire floor of about 100 had a pc and there were obviously no laptops, tablets, smartphones, etc. There were two word processors which you might be familiar with and kids of today would have no concept of. Word processors were like half a computer. You typed a document into them and they printed it. They had a tiny screen that showed a few lines of text but this was a HUGE improvement on typewriters because you could actually make changes to the document without starting over.
Six years later when I helped move my brother to Ohio State in the fall of 1999 he and his three roommates had a combined total of six computers because everybody had a PC and two of the four had laptops as well.
I realize that is only an anecdote and not solid data but I would guess that it is somewhere near correct overall and based on that we went from:
- 0.01 computers per student in 1993 to
- 1.5 computers per student in 1999
Even if my anecdote is off by a LOT, the difference is still enormous.
My parents bought their first PC right about the time I left for college and I never owned my own PC or laptop while I was in college so the first time I had a PC of my own was after I graduated. Amazing how much different that world was from this one.
Agreed... I wasn't that far behind--graduated HS in 1996--only three years.
I will say that my parents were on the computer train very early, unlike yours.
We got a Commodore 64 when I was 5, so around 1983, but then only two years later we got an IBM XT. My parents used that for some of their tax stuff, word processing, etc. I actually used to get paid I think ten cents per receipt to put their receipts into the tax software because back in those days you could itemize and claim sales tax as a deduction on your federal taxes. That was based on DOS, and my dad's friend gave me a bunch of DOS-based ASCII computer games. I remember my buddy and I playing (but never beating) Ultima V on that, and also playing Leisure Suit Larry when my folks didn't know what we were up to lol...
Around 1989 they upgraded to a Windows-based PC, which I think was a 386. My dad (an architect) always planned to learn CAD, so he needed something that had the horsepower to run it. Around 1992 they upgraded again to a 486, and I basically took over all computer management for the household.
Over those years of high school until 1996, I went from checking out BBS systems to operating my own, getting into computer gaming, eventually seeing the world of AOL followed by AOL only really being a portal to run Netscape and get me out to the "world wide web"...
By the fall of 1996 and getting to Purdue, not *everyone* had a computer, but it was common.
So I think you may have grown up in a PC-free world, but despite being only 3 years younger than you, I had started learning PCs almost a decade earlier than your parents got one.
lol, we literally called those brick cell phones the "Zach Morris phone"......my dad had the bag phone in his truck. I was pretty lucky - we had a PC with AOL and all that as soon as I was entering high school.
I took a typing class FR year of HS.....I think that would blow kids away today - that adults would take typing classes, or that I did in HS.
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Today, kindergarten teachers have to be mindful to have students physically write with a paper and pencil so that it is not a lost skill - more so with this online-only year.
Typing was a great class. My mom forced me to take it freshman year of HS, and I'm really glad she did. I don't ever have to think about typing; I think of words and my fingers just subconsciously translate them onto the screen. I'm fast enough at it that my typing skills occur at the speed I'm actually forming the sentences, so it purely is "think it and it shows up on the screen".
I personally HATE manually writing anything. I'm left-handed, so I have to crook my wrist to keep from smudging what I just wrote. I get hand cramps after literally a few sentences of writing. I have mostly forgotten how to write in cursive; I can do it but not without conscious thought.
Typing is preferred for me. And on a real keyboard, not a stupid smartphone screen. Nothing else (smartphone or manual script/printing) can keep up with me to actually be in a flow.
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Have any of you noticed that todays youth have a problem writing in the cursive fashion
I think the advent of computers texting etc has reduced the number of folks that know how to write in cursive
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Have any of you noticed that todays youth have a problem writing in the cursive fashion
I think the advent of computers texting etc has reduced the number of folks that know how to write in cursive
I don't think they're even teaching it any more.
To which I say: good effing riddance.
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I don't think they're even teaching it any more.
To which I say: good effing riddance.
interesting response
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To which I say: good effing riddance.
Guess that's why they call it cursive
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Sell me on cursive. What's the utility of it?
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Have any of you noticed that todays youth have a problem writing in the cursive fashion
I think the advent of computers texting etc has reduced the number of folks that know how to write in cursive
I admit, my handwriting has always been awful and the teachers who made me use cursive into middle school were torturing themselves.
But honestly. was there any advantage to it? Like any at all?
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Im not defending cursive just making an observation thats all guys
sorry if I struck a nerve
note 21 states still require cursive be taught so its eventually going away
will please sign here become please print here
just wondering
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Aside from computers, they pretty much had everything that we have today by the 50s; electricity, running water, phones, cars, televisions, record players, etc.
At this point anyone under 80 grew up in a fairly modern world.
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Aside from computers, they pretty much had everything that we have today by the 50s; electricity, running water, phones, cars, televisions, record players, etc.
At this point anyone under 80 grew up in a fairly modern world.
computers the internet and smart phones are huge differences between my childhood and the teenagers of today
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Computers are an overrated invention, imo. They don't really do anything that we couldn't do before, they just do it faster and more efficient.
But they sure have saved a lot of trees.
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Computers are an overrated invention, imo. They don't really do anything that we couldn't do before, they just do it faster and more efficient.
But they sure have saved a lot of trees.
Okay, helmet team fan.
Everyone coast to coast could always find Ohio State scores, news, info, etc.
You think anyone in 1980s California could find the latest Purdue info?
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Okay, helmet team fan.
Everyone coast to coast could always find Ohio State scores, news, info, etc.
You think anyone in 1980s California could find the latest Purdue info?
I think the addition of the internet turned the computer into something much more then when they originally came out
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Computers are an overrated invention, imo. They don't really do anything that we couldn't do before, they just do it faster and more efficient.
But they sure have saved a lot of trees.
I mean, that speed changed the world in untold profound ways. Same argument could be made of the internal combustion engine. We could move all the same things before, jut much, much slower.
I wonder what inventions are underrated. Maybe some mundane food processing thing.
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Okay, helmet team fan.
Everyone coast to coast could always find Ohio State scores, news, info, etc.
You think anyone in 1980s California could find the latest Purdue info?
There was probably some 800 number you could call and get all of the scores.
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I mean, that speed changed the world in untold profound ways. Same argument could be made of the internal combustion engine. We could move all the same things before, jut much, much slower.
I wonder what inventions are underrated. Maybe some mundane food processing thing.
Yeah, it made things instantaneous that would take hours/days/weeks in the past. But compared to how much the world changed over the seventy years prior to the 50s, the inventions pretty much came to a standstill after that. Mostly just improvements on the stuff that we already had by then.
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Sell me on cursive. What's the utility of it?
there is none today
back in the day, there was a signature needed for legal documents
not today
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Have any of you noticed that todays youth have a problem writing in the cursive fashion
I think the advent of computers texting etc has reduced the number of folks that know how to write in cursive
I might’ve been among the last school age to ever be bothered with cursive writing - one of the most outdated practices expected between people. The emphasis of cursive conversely deemphasizes print writing which is much more readable and thus useful for all things business.
Cursive writing had its place 125-250 years ago, when part of being a competent politician, judge, and lawyer was to practice excellent, artful handwriting. Since then cursive writing has strangely kept its status as high class signifier while morphing into a convenience for the writer yet an inconvenience for the reader. IMO this started around the 1890s. I say this because I collect antique postcards dating back to the civil war and there’s a noted falloff in the quality of casual cursive toward the end of the 1800s.
Along with it’s lack of readability, my other frustration with a modern use of cursive writing is its common pretentiousness. The writer can write as illegible as they want but it’s OK because it’s cursive while the reader is stuck with the pressuring of trying to read it while also worrying that by not being able to interpret someone’s awful handwriting they risk being perceived as unable to read cursive, and thus less educated.
Not being able to read someone’s cursive writing is 90% of the time not being able to read someone’s lazy, inconsiderate handwriting.
Good riddance to cursive.
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I think the addition of the internet turned the computer into something much more then when they originally came out
A porn machine?
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There was probably some 800 number you could call and get all of the scores.
And a 900 number you could call and get all of the rocks off.
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Aside from computers, they pretty much had everything that we have today by the 50s; electricity, running water, phones, cars, televisions, record players, etc.
At this point anyone under 80 grew up in a fairly modern world.
We could get into a big fight about why this is true. Hint: it has to do with big corporations, the status quo, and income inequality.
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But I won't start us down that path.
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In Back to the Future 2, 1955 Biff figures out that the sports almanac was legit when they were giving Big Ten scores on the radio.
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Still teaching cursive in my kids Elementary school.
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there is none today
back in the day, there was a signature needed for legal documents
not today
Thats just not true
plus in most states when you vote early you are supposed to sign the envelope the voting slip goes in to be mailed back
what I think is that most folks learn how to sign their name in cursive but that all
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In Back to the Future 2, 1955 Biff figures out that the sports almanac was legit when they were giving Big Ten scores on the radio.
If you started with $100, I wonder what's the fewest bets you'd have to make to win back $1 million. 3? 4? 10?
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Two. You'd have to either hit two 100:1 or longer bets, played consecutively, or a fairly broad possible sequence of two bets at the horse track. There are plenty of instances of 50 cent and $1 bets hitting mid to upper Six figure payouts. I'd argue there's a reasonable scenario of a $1mil payout on a single $100 wager assuming a big handle.
This assumes you're discounting a lottery win.
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I guess I was just thinking popular upset picks. Tyson losing to Douglas was something like 42-1. Putting $100 (or whatever you had from previous bets) on 40-point underdog Stanford over USC, etc.
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We could get into a big fight about why this is true. Hint: it has to do with big corporations, the status quo, and income inequality.
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But I won't start us down that path.
If I had any interest in learning about "your" (lol) political views, I'd be watching Ms Nbc instead of posting on a CFB message board.
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Computers are an overrated invention, imo. They don't really do anything that we couldn't do before, they just do it faster and more efficient.
But they sure have saved a lot of trees.
(https://i.imgur.com/5ExszNP.png)
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You think anyone in 1980s California could find the latest Purdue info?
And this is exactly why the information highway was created.Specifically so a forlorn,transplanted,midwestern zymurgist could keep track of his school's fortunes.And to teach me how to type - the only examples I could find ;D
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A porn machine?
And a 900 number you could call and get all of the rocks off.
Good to see you spend your time prudently crafting lesson plans.And wholesome they are
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I mean, that speed changed the world in untold profound ways. Same argument could be made of the internal combustion engine. We could move all the same things before, jut much, much slower.
I wonder what inventions are underrated. Maybe some mundane food processing thing.
The Haber process.
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My Dad was born in a house with no electricity. Cars were very rare. There was no official record he existed until he enlisted in 1942.
Polio was a huge fear even when I was a kid, but we had electricity of course. That single thing is enormous in terms of quality of life.
Running water, hot water, cooking on an electric range, ....
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If I had any interest in learning about "your" (lol) political views, I'd be watching Ms Nbc instead of posting on a CFB message board.
This is SOOOOOO tired.
Pretending moderates are far-leftist doesn't make it true.
They're doing it with Biden now, and it's just as nonsensical.
The Democratic primary was a 4-person race: 2 moderates and 2 far-leftists.....Biden & Buttigeg were the moderates, Warren and Bernie the lefties. We all know this.
Yet, no matter who won was to be demonized as a far-left boogeyman.
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It's so boring.
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A far right person thinks Romney is a liberal
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When people on either side get too far from center, their VIEW is ASKEW.
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This is SOOOOOO tired.
Pretending moderates are far-leftist doesn't make it true.
They're doing it with Biden now, and it's just as nonsensical.
The Democratic primary was a 4-person race: 2 moderates and 2 far-leftists.....Biden & Buttigeg were the moderates, Warren and Bernie the lefties. We all know this.
Yet, no matter who won was to be demonized as a far-left boogeyman.
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It's so boring.
Good Lord.
It is almost as though Rachel Maddow has her hand up your hind end, flapping your gums like a puppet.
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You don't have to view Biden as a far leftie to disagree with his platform and policy.
Same thing goes in reverse for the Republican platform and policy, with respect to liberals.
And of course, Trump wasn't even a Republican.
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This is SOOOOOO tired.
Pretending moderates are far-leftist doesn't make it true.
They're doing it with Biden now, and it's just as nonsensical.
The Democratic primary was a 4-person race: 2 moderates and 2 far-leftists.....Biden & Buttigeg were the moderates, Warren and Bernie the lefties. We all know this.
Yet, no matter who won was to be demonized as a far-left boogeyman.
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It's so boring.
thats because Biden is a non issue and the real president is Harris
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This is SOOOOOO tired.
Pretending moderates are far-leftist doesn't make it true.
They're doing it with Biden now, and it's just as nonsensical.
The Democratic primary was a 4-person race: 2 moderates and 2 far-leftists.....Biden & Buttigeg were the moderates, Warren and Bernie the lefties. We all know this.
Yet, no matter who won was to be demonized as a far-left boogeyman.
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It's so boring.
I was about to say that this is why the trope of Biden just being an electoral figurehead with the "real" power behind him in the shadows became a thing, but...
thats because Biden is a non issue and the real president is Harris
320 beat me to it.
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Glad to see Fro is free to spew his political vomit all over the nonpolitical threads, even though the only reason that we have a political thread is because his hopelessly indoctrinated ass can't help himself.
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Fair enough.
Back on topic...
When I was a kid, we didn't worry about political discussions.
We worried about running out of this, which my mom made in great big pitchers she kept in the fridge:
(https://i.imgur.com/OQB64sZ.png)
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(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/EcstaticJadedArthropods-max-1mb.gif)
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When someone says "X if lib/con", to me it says more about the person than X.
Folks use different tardsticks on such measurements. Heh, I mistyped, but it makes sense.
Your average European is a lot more liberal than your average American. That can combine that with a surprisingly outspoken racism as well.
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Last night I watched a you tube video as I fell asleep, and then at 4 in the morning my computer just starts blaring some Geico commercial with Dick Vitale where he dumps an entire Gatorade cooler on his own head at the end.
File under "shit that never happened before 2008."
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I was 25 before I took an airplane ride. Air travel was for the wealthy back in the day, pretty much entirely, maybe upper middle class. It was something in movies, I probably didn't even know anyone who had been on a plane commercially until I was 10.
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I wasn't on a plane or had a credit card until I was out of college and had to take a flight for work.
Rental car place required a credit card
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Yeah, my only time on an airplane before flying to job interviews in college was the age of 10. My parents took us to Disneyworld/Epcot and Cocoa Beach. Before and after that, the only vacations my family ever took were by car.
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Last night I watched a you tube video as I fell asleep, and then at 4 in the morning my computer just starts blaring some Geico commercial with Dick Vitale where he dumps an entire Gatorade cooler on his own head at the end.
File under "shit that never happened before 2008."
whenever something like that would happen and I would ask the company's tech person about he would look at it and say it was FM
finally one day I asked him what FM was and he said it stands for "Fu*king Magic" and nobody could explain it
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I was 25 before I took an airplane ride.
I was 26 - it was on People's Airlines(Later Continental).Anyway I'm headed down the corridor of the AirPort i didn't know weather to stop for a belt at the bar or a Prayer at the Chapel.They were right across from each other and then I remember the carrier had boarding passes and not assigned seating so I kept on going to the Gate
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My first airplane ride was in 1967 on a Boing 707 from Houston to San Francisco
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whenever something like that would happen and I would ask the company's tech person about he would look at it and say it was FM
finally one day I asked him what FM was and he said it stands for "Fu*king Magic" and nobody could explain it
we always used the abbreviation: PFM
pure
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My family never traveled anywhere by plane, always by car, including multiple weeks-long trips to the deep interior of Mexico. First plane ride I ever had was after my junior year in high school, our marching band flew from Austin to Hawaii.
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First plane ride I ever had was after my junior year in high school, our marching band flew from Austin to Hawaii.
Good thing you didn't go this week
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Oh geez, nearly forgot..........
1st plane ride was back in 1976, I was in Jr high.
there was a nationwide, I think, or state wide program to take school kids to Washington DC for the Bicentennial to do a one night / two day sightseeing tour.
It cost more than a few bucks, my father probably wasn't in favor, but it was much cheaper than it should have been.
Gerald Ford must have subsidized the trip.
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Almost as old as Cincy,
I bought my first calculator as a senior in High School. It cost over $200, I paid for it with money from my paper route.
(https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=u4pWLSZR&id=0ABC7C78E8D59408E01CFD834C7F314B404BA9B0&thid=OIP.u4pWLSZRmsj9obYTxym_JwHaHa&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.kupindoslike.com%2FTexas-Instruments-SR-50_slika_O_108292243.jpg&exph=1350&expw=1350&q=sr-50+texas+instruments&simid=607987530317855338&ck=0217EC248B5DC42C5A3A37C5CB976214&selectedindex=0&form=EX0023&adlt=off&shtp=GetUrl&shid=4a9acbea-9a98-4fb0-ad02-1d37e1e85a29&shtk=VGV4YXMgSW5zdHJ1bWVudHMgU1ItNTAgLSBLdXBpbmRvLmNvbSAoNTg0NzMwODMp&shdk=Rm91bmQgb24gQmluZyBmcm9tIHd3dy5rdXBpbmRvLmNvbQ%3D%3D&shhk=SFXaoU189NJLrM%2BNEJc5NbdzBozYpUg%2BTfgarLhXxLM%3D&shth=OSH.pEyM2YjWJ02pBfOUIqL4vA)(https://www.calculator.org/images/calculators/Texas_Instruments_SR-50A__JoeHaupt.jpg)
I thought I was something. doing factorials and scientific functions without a slide rule.
I never locked my home until 5 years ago when my wife and I got together.
My first computer was a commodore 64, I bought in 1984 (I think).
As a kid, I have similar stories, no helmet on the bike, out all day all over the neighborhood without checking it. If a neighbor parent saw me doing something wrong, they wouldn't hesitate to give me a swat.
Lived in what truly could be called the "traditional" neighborhood.
Wouldn't give up my childhood for nothing.
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I used a slide rule all through HS. I got a TI SR-10 in college, 1972. We used to have slide rule speed competitions between linear and circular slide rulers. I think I still have mine, a metal yellow slide rule.
I almost changed majors to computer programming.
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LOL... I played Tetris on my TI-85 calculator as a senior in high school...
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We had to buy one and I probably used it like 5 times.
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Fair enough.
Back on topic...
When I was a kid, we didn't worry about political discussions.
We worried about running out of this, which my mom made in great big pitchers she kept in the fridge:
(https://i.imgur.com/OQB64sZ.png)
Damn- had the same. Loved the grape best!
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I wore the keys off that SR-10, and a couple years later moved up to the TI SR-50, which was quite a bit better. We had races between folks with the HP type which used RPN instead. I used both. Meh. That was a bit like the Apple vs Microsoft wars. Remember when we had two types of video tapes and then two types of DVDs?
I recall in HS there were for basketball shoes Converse and I think PF Flyers. Converse were more popular. I don't know of a third brand.
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My first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000. Bought it with lawn-mowing money in... 1982 I guess? One "feature" was that it didn't separate the video memory from normal RAM, and you could access all of it, so if you weren't careful you could overwrite your video screen and have no idea what was running, even if you were running properly.
(https://i.imgur.com/4OVevFL.jpg)
My second computer was an Atari 400 that I also bought about a year later, again with lawn-mowing money.
(https://i.imgur.com/g11vS7f.jpg)
And then in 1984, my parents bought an Apple IIc, which I pretty much adopted as my own:
(https://i.imgur.com/9X2mfbW.png)
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My first computer was the IBM PC which I still have bought in 1985
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the IBM PC came with no hard drive
I later bought a 20 mb hard drive for $200 from Seagate and installed it
a whole new world opened for me
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I'm sure a few of you have heard of the computer game genre known as "Tank Wars" or "Scorched Earth"... Basically a 2D game where you had any number of tank or artillery positions and you had to attack them via a variety of weapons and selecting your angle and power...
(https://i.imgur.com/RjXftP7.png)
When I was a senior in high school, I took a computer science class where we were programming in... I think Pascal, on the Apple IIgs.
Within the first couple of days, I realized this class was a joke. We had three weeks to learn and practice a "for" loop, followed by three weeks to learn and practice "if-then" statements, etc...
I knew immediately that it was going to bore the crap out of me. So I wrote a version of Scorched Earth for the Apple IIgs as my final project, starting early in the semester. It even required writing an entire section of subroutines to create text characters because there was no inherent ability to overlay text over graphics, so I had to have routines to draw every single letter and number. It randomized the terrain and the location of every tank, and obviously I had to write routines that would determine hit vs miss to know when a tank was destroyed. It even included multiple weapons, wind force, etc.
All the final project was required to demonstrate was use of each of the main programming tasks we had learned. Mine clearly exceeded that goal. I got an A.
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the IBM PC came with no hard drive
I later bought a 20 mb hard drive for $200 from Seagate and installed it
a whole new world opened for me
Blasphemy!
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Blasphemy!
splain yourself
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I'm sure a few of you have heard of the computer game genre known as "Tank Wars" or "Scorched Earth"... Basically a 2D game where you had any number of tank or artillery positions and you had to attack them via a variety of weapons and selecting your angle and power...
When I was a senior in high school, I took a computer science class where we were programming in... I think Pascal, on the Apple IIgs.
Within the first couple of days, I realized this class was a joke. We had three weeks to learn and practice a "for" loop, followed by three weeks to learn and practice "if-then" statements, etc...
I knew immediately that it was going to bore the crap out of me. So I wrote a version of Scorched Earth for the Apple IIgs as my final project, starting early in the semester. It even required writing an entire section of subroutines to create text characters because there was no inherent ability to overlay text over graphics, so I had to have routines to draw every single letter and number. It randomized the terrain and the location of every tank, and obviously I had to write routines that would determine hit vs miss to know when a tank was destroyed. It even included multiple weapons, wind force, etc.
All the final project was required to demonstrate was use of each of the main programming tasks we had learned. Mine clearly exceeded that goal. I got an A.
There was a time when we'd play this game into the wee hours, lol.
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splain yourself
There's three companies left in the world that build HDDs. Seagate is one of the three. My employer is one of the other three.
Granted, HDDs you bought when I was a wee lad don't impact my ability to feed my kids now, but when it comes time for the two minutes hate, you take the two minutes ;-)
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was your company selling HDs in 1985
Seagate was just about it
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There's three companies left in the world that build HDDs. Seagate is one of the three. My employer is one of the other three.
Granted, HDDs you bought when I was a wee lad don't impact my ability to feed my kids now, but when it comes time for the two minutes hate, you take the two minutes ;-)
We buy your stuff. Lots and lots of it. Of course, we buy lots from your competitors, too. Sorry.
Did I tell you that my first job at my company was as a Supply Chain Manager for PowerVault storage products? JBODs, RBODs and... yup... TAPE.
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I Havent owned a seagate for the last 20 years assuming Dell doesnt use them
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If I had to buy a hard drive today Id probably check out Western Digital or Toshiba
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We buy your stuff. Lots and lots of it. Of course, we buy lots from your competitors, too. Sorry.
Did I tell you that my first job at my company was as a Supply Chain Manager for PowerVault storage products? JBODs, RBODs and... yup... TAPE.
Tape? Tape's been dead for 30 years...
Granted, don't tell that to the tape guys who are still selling boatloads of it lol... (Some of whom are my customers...)
Actually I'm leading a product training for some of your guys next week.
If I had to buy a hard drive today Id probably check out Western Digital or Toshiba
FTFY...
Actually if I was truly FTFY, I'd say that if you're buying a hard drive today for an actual PC, you should buy an SSD instead. Also available from the same company ;-)
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Actually if I was truly FTFY, I'd say that if you're buying a hard drive today for an actual PC, you should buy an SSD instead. Also available from the same company ;-)
My C drive is a SSD 1 TB
I really like it but can be tricky to back up
my 2nd drive is a SATA Toshiba 1 TB
sorry they came with the computer
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Tape? Tape's been dead for 30 years...
Granted, don't tell that to the tape guys who are still selling boatloads of it lol... (Some of whom are my customers...)
Actually I'm leading a product training for some of your guys next week.
FTFY...
Actually if I was truly FTFY, I'd say that if you're buying a hard drive today for an actual PC, you should buy an SSD instead. Also available from the same company ;-)
Yeah when I started we were still selling half a billion per year in tape. Now it's probably only a quarter billion. Obviously, you know the use cases-- archiving for large financial and accounting firms, defense contractors, that type of thing.
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I used a slide rule all through HS. I got a TI SR-10 in college, 1972. We used to have slide rule speed competitions between linear and circular slide rulers. I think I still have mine, a metal yellow slide rule.
I almost changed majors to computer programming.
I still have my slide rule, I can remember somewhat how to use it, but couldn't win a speed competition these days. Mine is also metal yellow.
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The wife had a significant arsenal of VHS tapes she wanted to move. I managed to talk her into throwing them out by asking when she last watched one. She probably had 200, some were French programs she had taped off the air back when.
I recall recording cassette tapes of FM broadcasts back in the day, they were pretty crappy.
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A porn machine?
Honestly this is a major societal change. For those who grew up pre-internet, seeing an adult magazine was a rare occurance. How many 12 year old boys today haven't seen the equivalent (and much more explicit images) on their phones?
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Honestly this is a major societal change. For those who grew up pre-internet, seeing an adult magazine was a rare occurance. How many 12 year old boys today haven't seen the equivalent (and much more explicit images) on their phones?
Not just porn but dating too. Thank God I wasn't limited to just whomever I met at work or a bar.
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You are not supposed to marry the ones that you meet at bars.
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why didn't someone tell me that?
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You are not supposed to marry the ones that you meet at bars.
I know a super stable couple who met in HS and didn't know each other all that well. They ran into each other in the street going from bar to bar one madison night. Went together to the next bar. Went home together. Now two kids, happy seeming situation.
Granted, they were both college kids at the time.
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I know a super stable couple who met in HS and didn't know each other all that well. They ran into each other in the street going from bar to bar one madison night. Went together to the next bar. Went home together. Now two kids, happy seeming situation.
Granted, they were both college kids at the time.
People have survived games of Russian Roulette too.
Doesn't make it a good idea.
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People have survived games of Russian Roulette too.
Doesn't make it a good idea.
Ive known my wife since the 4th grade
went to the same church
didnt date till we were seniors in HS
both went to the Univ of Texas
we dont have many secrets from each other
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People have survived games of Russian Roulette too.
Doesn't make it a good idea.
Well, if you meet them at a bar and marry them a week later I’d get the Russian Roulette comparison. Of course, I would make that same comparison if you met someone at church and married them a week later.
If you meet someone at a bar, date them, get to know them, meet their family, learn about their past, etc. then I don’t consider that Russian Roulette.
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dealing with women in general is always a little risky
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People have survived games of Russian Roulette too.
Doesn't make it a good idea.
So you don't like happy endings
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Well, if you meet them at a bar and marry them a week later I’d get the Russian Roulette comparison. Of course, I would make that same comparison if you met someone at church and married them a week later.
If you meet someone at a bar, date them, get to know them, meet their family, learn about their past, etc. then I don’t consider that Russian Roulette.
Sounds like you met yours at a bar, lol. Glad it worked, not saying it is always trouble. Just not the best strategy imo.
As for Church, I think that there main selling point these days is not so much the theology, as that it is a good place to meet a woman that will have a punchers chance of being a sound wife and mother; rather than some barfly puking on her shoes, or worse yet, that crazy feminist that you dated like an idiot while you were at the University.
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So you don't like happy endings
Like Roger Craft? O0
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I met my wife in a bar. 24th anniversary is in April.
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Like Roger Craft? O0
Wut?People have met in pubs and gotten married happily - it's not the latest.You being Utah polygamist should understand that.And who's Roger Craft?
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I met my i s c & a aggie wife in 11th grade American Literature class. We were friends in high school but we never dated.
Ran into her again a couple years after college graduation-- at a bar-- and we've been together ever since. July 14th will mark our 20-year anniversary.
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Sorry that was a amatuer effort,report to OAM for instruction ;D
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July 14th will mark our 20-year anniversary.
Have a Live Qak or a Lone Star on me
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Eh, the obnoxious "White liberal stereotype" level trolling that OAM fancies is a dime a dozen. You can literally go to any message board in America, and find a dozen that are just like him. They come off of an assembly line. Frankly he's not even that good at it.
It takes a special kind of trolling to inspire everyone to defend their courting rituals from decades past. :d030:
Sorry that was a amatuer effort,report to OAM for instruction ;D
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Eh, the obnoxious "White liberal stereotype" level trolling that OAM fancies is a dime a dozen. You can literally go to any message board in America, and find a dozen that are just like him. They come off of an assembly line. Frankly he's not even that good at it.
It takes a special kind of trolling to inspire everyone to defend their courting rituals from decades past. :d030:
(https://i.imgur.com/pW7CV3z.png) :D
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I met my wife in a bar. 24th anniversary is in April.
On Wisconsin.
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Come to think of it I met Cindy in a Pub
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On Wisconsin.
Yep. We were at a Country Western Bar in Lake Geneva. I was there with a buddy for a lame-ass bachelor party, and my wife and her friend were at the bar. My buddy pointed out my wife, and we blew off the bachelor party. Good decision.
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Yep. We were at a Country Western Bar in Lake Geneva. I was there with a buddy for a lame-ass bachelor party, and my wife and her friend were at the bar. My buddy pointed out my wife, and we blew off the bachelor party. Good decision.
Word.
I was at an Irish pub downtown, with my biddy Bald Greg (whom you've met of course) and we were about to leave. I saw Mary with a friend of hers sitting at a booth and stopped to talk to her for a bit. I'd actually run into her a couple of times over the years while we were both in college, one time at a mutual friend's wedding where we both had dates, and one time at a restaurant with her family right when she'd moved back to Austin, but she was still funny and introduced herself. I laughed and said "I know who you are."
It was a Friday night and I was taking the boat out the next day, so I invited her out to the lake with us. The boat did its magic, and the rest is history.
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Who would settle down with one broad, when they have a boat and boating capabilities? :D
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Oh the boat served me well, for many years, before I settled down.
But you know, as they say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvfjxm5Lynk
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I mean that's two entire decades. So far.
That's quite a bit of tail for a fella to voluntarily screw oneself out of.
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I met my first wife at a bar. You all know how that worked out.
She was what Badge thinks of when you think of California people...
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I met my first wife at a bar. You all know how that worked out.
She was what Badge thinks of when you think of California people...
I like to make fun of course, and Texas and California certainly have a bit of a friendly rivalry, but I've found it to be true that people around the world are all pretty much the same--- even Californians. :)
Have a Live Qak or a Lone Star on me
It'll be margaritas and palomas most likely, sitting on the beach at a Mexican resort.
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I like to make fun of course, and Texas and California certainly have a bit of a friendly rivalry, but I've found it to be true that people around the world are all pretty much the same--- even Californians. :)
That's true, of course. Deep down, people are the same. My ex was a narcissist, which is not unique to SoCal. I'm sure you have more than a few in Texas. Most Californians are nice.
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Sounds like you met yours at a bar, lol. Glad it worked, not saying it is always trouble. Just not the best strategy imo.
As for Church, I think that there main selling point these days is not so much the theology, as that it is a good place to meet a woman that will have a punchers chance of being a sound wife and mother; rather than some barfly puking on her shoes, or worse yet, that crazy feminist that you dated like an idiot while you were at the University.
Lol. Nah, we didn’t meet at a bar. I’ve never been a fan of bars, even in college. That’s just one of those pieces of advice that’s easy to punch holes in. If you take that logic to the Nth degree then anyone who has ever been in a bar isn’t marriage material.
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That's true, of course. Deep down, people are the same. My ex was a narcissist, which is not unique to SoCal. I'm sure you have more than a few in Texas. Most Californians are nice.
Alas, many exes are narcissists.
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Lol. Nah, we didn’t meet at a bar. I’ve never been a fan of bars, even in college. That’s just one of those pieces of advice that’s easy to punch holes in. If you take that logic to the Nth degree then anyone who has ever been in a bar isn’t marriage material.
I mean the intent of the advice, at least inasmuch as I can tell, is to be a sound guideline. Not a decree from above written in stone.
You shouldn't marry a gal that you met at one of Robert Kraft's special massage parlors either, but if you googled hard enough you could probably drum up a success story or three. O0
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It'll be margaritas and palomas most likely, sitting on the beach at a Mexican resort.
Sure make me reach for the platic,Bastage - I'm poorer than the Iowa Dirt Farmer.And by all means - drink the water
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My ex was a narcissist, which is not unique to SoCal.
My ex boss was a real narcissist,she gave credibility to the rumor Eva Braun made it out.But I've been thinkin' - a couple of more years and a life sentence won't mean what it use to >:(