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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on February 11, 2021, 06:04:33 PM
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If I were to pick 3 QB for the all-time Texas football team, I'd take:
Vince Young
Colt McCoy
Sam Ehlinger
I'd love to put guys in from different eras, but I don't even know who'd I'd rank 4th. And James Street's stats are gross.
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Correct me, though.
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I heard James Street was pretty good
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If I were to pick 3 QB for the all-time Texas football team, I'd take:
Vince Young
Colt McCoy
Sam Ehlinger
I'd love to put guys in from different eras, but I don't even know who'd I'd rank 4th. And James Street's stats are gross.
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Correct me, though.
I watched James Street play every game he played in Austin
He was not a great passer
He was not a great runner
all he did was beat your ass
great field general
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Not many people realize this but James Street was a great pitcher
21 complete games
2 no hitters
1 perfect game
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Bobby Layne was the first "great" QB at Texas.
I'm sure his stats don't measure up to modern QBs, for obvious reasons.
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I don't want to be a slave to the stats on this, but I also don't want to hamstring someone playing the game. If I'm playing against my friend and he has Jason White as OU's QB and I'm using Texas with James Street, I'm going to get curb-stomped.
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Layne's passing stats are fine, he wouldn't be a hindrance, but who would you replace? Ehlinger?
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I don't want to be a slave to the stats on this, but I also don't want to hamstring someone playing the game. If I'm playing against my friend and he has Jason White as OU's QB and I'm using Texas with James Street, I'm going to get curb-stomped.
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Layne's passing stats are fine, he wouldn't be a hindrance, but who would you replace? Ehlinger?
which shows one weakness in playing a board game based on stats
there is no stat for heart
Im not faulting you just pointing out some things just dont fit into a stat
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a perfect example of this was the Super Bowl last Sunday
On paper there just is no way TB wins that game
But if you watched the game it was clear the Tampa team was playing with a chip on its shoulder
As DKR once said only angry players win football games
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Ehh, I'd chalk the SB up to a great defensive gameplan and Mahomes' foot being a bigger issue than we thought.
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But point taken.
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I don't want to be a slave to the stats on this, but I also don't want to hamstring someone playing the game. If I'm playing against my friend and he has Jason White as OU's QB and I'm using Texas with James Street, I'm going to get curb-stomped.
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Layne's passing stats are fine, he wouldn't be a hindrance, but who would you replace? Ehlinger?
If I want to win the game, then I'd want the QB that-- in the game-- gave me the best chances of winning.
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Vince Young was easily the best player of his era. When left to play the game his way (that's a deliberately loaded qualifier), he could not be stopped. He may have spread the ball around to keep his teammates interested, but outrunning the entire defense was always an option.
After that, I'm looking at a couple of QBs known for their decision making skills. Colt McCoy could throw just far enough and run just fast enough to make the plays Texas needed. He could fire the ball within his abilities through the tightest windows because he knew that was where the play should go. I still maintain, though, that he was out on his feet when his pass hit the crowd railing with 0:01 on the clock. Sheer luck.
James Street mastered the "new" wishbone offense. This was the unstoppable offense that would break college football. Wherever the defense went, the wishbone powered the other way. No defense could possibly stop four runners, plus deal with the occasional deep pass as well.
I admit this is recency bias. I just don't know enough about Bobby Layne. Also, I'm sure there are tons more without the glowing trophies. Peter Gardere's undefeated streak against OU should garner him a mention.
I believe Sam Ehlinger's abilities were not maximized by Texas. Between lacking proper OL play, competent QB development, and an OC without imagination or foresight, he had better skills than he was able to show.
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So maybe it's Young, McCoy, and.................Street/Gardere/Layne?
Or Young, Layne and.............McCoy/Street?
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Also, the hard choice on running QBs is that if you have one in, he's going to gobble up a RB slot, so you only get 3 RBs instead of 4.
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That being said......if my All-Time Horns team gets 4 RBs, I expect to see:
Ricky Williams
Earl Campbell
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Fill in the blanks for me.
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That being said......if my All-Time Horns team gets 4 RBs, I expect to see:
Ricky Williams
Earl Campbell
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Fill in the blanks for me.
Steve Worster should at least be considered
Hard tough between the tackles runner
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That being said......if my All-Time Horns team gets 4 RBs, I expect to see:
Ricky Williams
Earl Campbell
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Fill in the blanks for me.
I'd consider Jamaal Charles, Ced Benson, and (wait for it) Bijan Robinson. We'll see how well that holds up.
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For QB it's definitely VY and Colt McCoy. Number 3 is a tossup.
For RB there's Earl and Ricky, and then you should take a look at: Priest Holmes, Cedric Benson, Jamaal Charles, D'Onta Foreman, Eric Metcalf, Roosevelt Leakes. Just off the top of my head, anyway.
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Roosevelt Leakes
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I'd consider Jamaal Charles, Ced Benson, and (wait for it) Bijan Robinson. We'll see how well that holds up.
Fingers crossed.
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Yeah, it feels like Leakes is mostly forgotten nationally, but that dude was legit. I like the idea of Metcalf, because he was different....but he'd take a WR/TE spot, with his receptions.
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Yeah, it feels like Leakes is mostly forgotten nationally, but that dude was legit. I like the idea of Metcalf, because he was different....but he'd take a WR/TE spot, with his receptions.
Yeah as I recall he was a pretty good return man, too, but it's been a while. I think that was his primary duty in the NFL.
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don't forget Burnt's favorite, Hodges Mitchell
the tangle-footed dwarf
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And Leakes suffered from immediately preceding Earl Campbell, which made him a bit of an afterthought. But in another time period, he might have been more highly regarded.
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Cedric Benson is the same to me as Michigan's Mike Hart. Pedestrian per-carry numbers, but played forever and toted the rock a ton.
I'm leaning towards Williams, Campbell, Benson for sure.
What about Chris Gilbert? 3x thousand-yard rusher back in 66-67-68. Is he too obscure?
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Steve Worster should at least be considered
Hard tough between the tackles runner
Bertelsen played with him and had similar stats. They both had over 30 TDs, which is nuts.