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The Power Five => Big XII => Topic started by: BrownCounty on December 20, 2017, 05:10:46 PM
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I see a lot of steers on this list.
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/texas/class/2018/view/state (http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/playerrankings/_/state/texas/class/2018/view/state)
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I hope some of them are off linemen
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At this point, Texas is #3 and OU #7 in rivals.
Next three big 12 teams are in the 20s. And check out where A&M is. Jimbo better get busy.
https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/football (https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2018/all-teams/football)
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I still suspect the SEC lure will recruit for A&M, even if the Jimbo factor doesn't. Likely some recruits will view Jimbo as the man who has won it all, while others may view him as over the hump and just counting his money. Either way, Aggies are still in the SEC, and that boat floats.
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Jimbo has been at A&M for all of 10 minutes. And we still don't have a DC named yet.
I'm not too concerned with where this class ends up. Afterall.... see Herman's class from last year.
It's NEXT year's class that will be interesting to see.
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The problem with A&M, is that Jimbo has to improve upon a modicum of success. Herman only had to improve upon Charlie Strong. (which has happened but is largely intangible thus far)
If Jimbo does worse than Sumlin in his first year, the road won't get any easier. These are not your Aggies of yesteryear. These are entitled t-sips wearing maroon.
Aggies are in a dangerous situation. Sumlin did not SUCK as a coach. Just like when we canned Mack, the roof fell in because the next coach couldn't get Mack's unacceptable 8 wins. If Jimbo doesn't at least match Sumlin's output right out of the box, then there will be tremors underneath the bonfire.
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Not at all surprised to see us recruiting well
TH's rep was that he is a hell of a great recruiter
Now if we can just figure out what to do with them
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I'm not much into recruiting. Two of OU's three unanimous AA's weren't recruited at all. Mayfield wound up as a Heismann winner and maybe the CFB GOAT QB. Brown was given a scholarship as a favor after Tennessee pulled their offer.
That said, last year's class contributed heavily to this season and this class looks like it might as well. My concern is that I don't see a replacement for Dimitri Flowers on the roster or in this recruiting class but Riley didn't use HBacks in his offense prior to coming to OU so the scheme may change. All those seasons of Trey Millard and Dimitri have spoiled me.
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I'm not much into recruiting. Two of OU's three unanimous AA's weren't recruited at all. Mayfield wound up as a Heismann winner and maybe the CFB GOAT QB. Brown was given a scholarship as a favor after Tennessee pulled their offer.
I understand what you are saying, and I normally don't pay much attention to recruiting either. But when you're Texas right now you're looking for anything you can grab onto, so I'm on the recruiting choo-choo since things aren't looking too bad.
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I understand what you are saying, and I normally don't pay much attention to recruiting either. But when you're Texas right now you're looking for anything you can grab onto, so I'm on the recruiting choo-choo since things aren't looking too bad.
For sure, I'd rather have a recruiting class full of top talent, than not. Beyond that, though, it's pretty meaningless. I'll be much more interested in what the staff is able to have ALL the players doing by next September.
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TH's rep was that he is a hell of a great recruiter
Now if we can just figure out what to do with them
I think it would be fairly safe to say that the players that came to play for Charlie were exactly that - they came to play for Charlie.
Many on here disagree, but I believe TH has had a tough go inheriting this program. The loyalty to Charlie is hard to get around, the depth of talent is curb deep, and it's all resulted in a silk purse, sow's ear situation.
I don't for a moment believe that TH thinks he has the players here. Quite the contrary. I've heard he is aggressively recruiting for starters, not understudies - and he is not bashful about proclaiming this to recruits.
TH wants *his* team - his ego demands it, but so does the situation he inherited.
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Texas has always recruited well and usually has a deep bench of really good players. That has made them hard to beat, even when their coaching has been a mess and/or when their game plans have been clunky and predictable.
So I can’t agree that it isn’t that important. It is. Obviously there are other important factors too in putting together championship seasons, but regardless Texas nearly always has that high quality TALENT on the field.
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What's UT's/TH's problem in recruiting trench ponies this year?
Gotta have trench ponies. You can't play 11 5-star DBs at the same time.
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Oh, I think recruiting is very important, I just don't follow it that much. I don't put as much stock in recruiting services rankings as I do coaches evaluations so I just wait to see what develops. In general, I am more interested in the linemen and it is often hard to know how they are going to grow and develop.
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What's UT's/TH's problem in recruiting trench ponies this year?
Gotta have trench ponies. You can't play 11 5-star DBs at the same time.
Out of 20 recruits so far only 4 are Off linemen
That has this Horn worried
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The younger the coach, the less important the trenches. Maybe TH knows you gotta get the glamour and glitz first if you wanna attract the meat and potatoes.
You know, if I were a coach today, I would do the exact opposite of everyone else. It's what Mike Leach did, and it pretty much changed the whole game.
Now time for someone to change it back.
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Isn't that the big problem? How many OC's and systems has UT had in the last 4 years? Is Herman wanting to have his system or Tim Beck's? Casey Thompson reminds me of Greg Ward, TH's QB at Houston but you guys also signed Cameron Rising, a pro-style QB so it is kind of hard to tell what the offensive vision will be.
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Casey Thompson reminds me of Greg Ward, TH's QB at Houston but you guys also signed Cameron Rising, a pro-style QB so it is kind of hard to tell what the offensive vision will be.
I have a hard time letting high school football put a life-long stamp on what kind of QB a kid can/will be.
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The problem with A&M, is that Jimbo has to improve upon a modicum of success. Herman only had to improve upon Charlie Strong. (which has happened but is largely intangible thus far)
If Jimbo does worse than Sumlin in his first year, the road won't get any easier. These are not your Aggies of yesteryear. These are entitled t-sips wearing maroon.
Aggies are in a dangerous situation. Sumlin did not SUCK as a coach. Just like when we canned Mack, the roof fell in because the next coach couldn't get Mack's unacceptable 8 wins. If Jimbo doesn't at least match Sumlin's output right out of the box, then there will be tremors underneath the bonfire.
A&M's 2018 schedule includes:
home vs Clemson
at Alabama
at South Carolina
at Mississippi State
at Auburn
home vs LSU
You'll note that includes two CFP participants from this season, along with another that almost made the CFP. If Fisher was ever going to get a pass... 2018 will be the year. After that then yes.... he better deliver. But back on recruiting, we'll get our first glimpse into how his tenure will go after we start to see how the 2019 recruiting class starts to shape up.
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A&M's 2018 schedule includes:
home vs Clemson
at Alabama
at South Carolina
at Mississippi State
at Auburn
home vs LSU
SOS only works with the educated fan. It's all about W's and L's for everybody else. And even the educated fan can't ignore the W/L column either.
If Jimbo goes .500 - TexAgs will be on my fave links.
Rightly or wrongly, the money he is getting set him (and A&M) up to either be a laughing stock or a national power, there is no in between.
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Well... I certainly don't buy that. If A&M goes 9-3 every year.... that hardly makes us a laughingstock, but still doesn't put us in the national power ranks either. So there is in between.
But I do think the odds of boom or bust, with no gray area... are more likely.
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Well... I certainly don't buy that. If A&M goes 9-3 every year.... that hardly makes us a laughingstock, but still doesn't put us in the national power ranks either.
True, but there are a lot of programs that can win 9 games for less money.
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True, but there are a lot of programs that can win 9 games for less money.
No argument, but I hardly think that would make us a "laughingstock".
I mean... is paying $7.5mil/year to win 9 games really any worse than paying $5mil/year to win only 6?
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No argument, but I hardly think that would make us a "laughingstock".
I mean... is paying $7.5mil/year to win 9 games really any worse than paying $5mil/year to win only 6?
Very well played. Touche!!
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not many care how much the coach gets paid
if they did the coaches wouldn't be making that kind of jack
all anyone cares about are the wins and losses