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Title: EA Sports College Football
Post by: TyphonInc on February 02, 2021, 04:13:29 PM
EA just announced they are bringing back NCAA College Football!!!!

https://twitter.com/EASPORTS/status/1356644353901539342?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/02/02/ea-sports-bring-back-popular-college-football-video-game/4355260001/
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 02, 2021, 04:58:52 PM
EA just announced they are bringing back NCAA College Football!!!!

https://twitter.com/EASPORTS/status/1356644353901539342?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/02/02/ea-sports-bring-back-popular-college-football-video-game/4355260001/
I posted it in the offseason thread but it got buried in financial and political drivel
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Abba on February 02, 2021, 05:00:22 PM
I haven't really played video games much via console in a long time.  But this might bring me back.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 02, 2021, 05:51:29 PM
With the online file sharing, they can make every player 6', 200 lbs white, and wearing number 10, and within a week, everyone will have updated, accurate rosters, down to the armbands.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Mdot21 on February 02, 2021, 06:08:48 PM
I haven't played video games in years but I might have to buy a ps5 for this. Never thought in a million years it would actually ever come back.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: MrNubbz on February 02, 2021, 07:03:48 PM
Can you wager on them?
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 03, 2021, 12:18:17 PM
I kept my roster updated each year.  I loaned my 360 and game to my friend in Vegas with liver cancer, knowing he'd be sitting around at home a lot.
His diagnosis updates have all been positive, so that's good.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: TyphonInc on February 03, 2021, 01:33:46 PM

His diagnosis updates have all been positive, so that's good. 

Always good to hear positive updates concerning cancer. 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 10:54:30 AM
I bet the operation sports website blew a gasket when the news broke.  That's where they crowdsource the roster editing.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 04, 2021, 12:08:07 PM
I bet the operation sports website blew a gasket when the news broke.  That's where they crowdsource the roster editing.
I will say, there are a couple issues here:


Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 12:48:44 PM
For people who love the game, they've been playing the same exact game for 6 years now.  EA's challenge is (well, was...and will be) improving gameplay/adding in other things for people to buy the game annually. 
This is how we got mascot games, all-time great teams (I miss that one), etc.  

The sites that have guys working on the rosters 24/7 are the perfect place for those who complain that a game is the same with just updated rosters.  It's a free alternative.  Just download the gamertag and you have updated rosters. 

For EA, as long as their new game is as good as they were before, they'll have a major success year 1, because of 2 default reasons:
1 - the market is salivating for it, and 
2 - it'll be on the nextgen platform and will automatically look better and run (cpu) faster.  

Basically they have the ultimate grace period built in.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 12:53:20 PM
I could easily edit Florida's entire vanilla bean roster from scratch in a day.  A couple of dozen guys doing that for a handful of teams each, given 6 weeks.....yeah.  And everyone doing the work would be especially glad to do it, considering.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: rolltidefan on February 04, 2021, 01:25:15 PM
I will say, there are a couple issues here:

  • Everyone keeps talking about how quickly the internet community will "fix" the roster.  They've probably already started on the roster for next year, and it's usually not done until a couple weeks into the season.  And that's not taking every guy from scratch, you can use all of the players from the prior year who stay, with just minor changes.  Now you are saying you can fix a roster from scratch that comes out 6 weeks(?) before the season.
  • People complain when a new FIFA, or Madden, or 2k release is just "last year's game with a roster update."  If you aren't even using a real roster, then what is the point of re-releasing a new version each year?  You only bought NCAA Football '13, if you already had '12, for the updated roster.


1 - they did it in a couple weeks in the past. it really depends on the mechanism ea uses to edit rosters. but even with ps2 save cards you could have one finished and shipped to you before the season started. once online file share was enabled, it got much faster they'd part out rosters to edit and it's get done in a few days.
2 - if/when the player likeness rule gets addressed, i'm guessing ea will figure a way to include the rosters. until then, they have a ton of update and products they can use for the new games.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 01:38:35 PM
EA can easily get around the player likeness thing by making every player the same race and number, but including something vague enough like home state or something, if they wanted to give hints.  They honestly don't even have to do that - as the group I contributed with made a ratings set for incoming FR, and tweaks to players/teams that were deemed too high or low.  And anyway, if you're that particular about it, you can always use the community-created roster as a template and adjust to your liking.


I think it was 2 years ago, App State was overpowered after a few dynasty seasons, so I adjusted their roster down some.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 04, 2021, 01:40:36 PM
I could easily edit Florida's entire vanilla bean roster from scratch in a day.  A couple of dozen guys doing that for a handful of teams each, given 6 weeks.....yeah.  And everyone doing the work would be especially glad to do it, considering.
Problem is only one person can have the file checked out at a time.

I mean you don't have to trust me, you can go see the thread.  It's never fully done by the start of the season, and they start it in the spring.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 04, 2021, 01:41:59 PM
1 - they did it in a couple weeks in the past. it really depends on the mechanism ea uses to edit rosters. but even with ps2 save cards you could have one finished and shipped to you before the season started. once online file share was enabled, it got much faster they'd part out rosters to edit and it's get done in a few days.
Yes, when they were taking an existing roster and just naming it.

Now that they are editing everything themselves, and only one person can have the file out at a time, it's taking them months.  You don't have to believe me, you can go look at the project.  They are all archived on their boards.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 04, 2021, 01:42:35 PM
For people who love the game, they've been playing the same exact game for 6 years now.  EA's challenge is (well, was...and will be) improving gameplay/adding in other things for people to buy the game annually. 
This is how we got mascot games, all-time great teams (I miss that one), etc. 

The sites that have guys working on the rosters 24/7 are the perfect place for those who complain that a game is the same with just updated rosters.  It's a free alternative.  Just download the gamertag and you have updated rosters.

For EA, as long as their new game is as good as they were before, they'll have a major success year 1, because of 2 default reasons:
1 - the market is salivating for it, and
2 - it'll be on the nextgen platform and will automatically look better and run (cpu) faster. 

Basically they have the ultimate grace period built in.
Yes, Year 1 will be a hit.  The issue is beyond that.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 05:43:41 PM
Problem is only one person can have the file checked out at a time.

I mean you don't have to trust me, you can go see the thread.  It's never fully done by the start of the season, and they start it in the spring.
Right, but they're filling in the Idahos and Akrons then.
And that's if you don't lift a finger.  You can start a dynasty with all of the P5 done and all of the notable P5 players or top 5 players on each P5 team and not look back.

That's the point.  EA doesn't need anyone to look like anyone.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 04, 2021, 10:01:32 PM
No Maurice Clarett, no Brutus. 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 04, 2021, 10:52:41 PM
NCAA 2004 had College Classics - replay classic situations from the past.  Go for two again with 83 Nebraska and actually get it.  The Flutie game.  Kordell Stewart, etc.

2005 had create-a-school, which was cool. 

2006 had historic teams, and in their era-specific uniforms.  I liked that feature a lot.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 05, 2021, 12:18:01 AM
Right, but they're filling in the Idahos and Akrons then.
And that's if you don't lift a finger.  You can start a dynasty with all of the P5 done and all of the notable P5 players or top 5 players on each P5 team and not look back.

That's the point.  EA doesn't need anyone to look like anyone.
I guess that's where we differ.  I never started my dynasty until I had the fully edited rosters
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 05, 2021, 08:38:32 AM
You could "create a school" before 2005. 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 05, 2021, 09:29:43 AM
The first one, Bill Walsh football, had a 16 team tournament at the end of the season. I thought it was so awesome, when the second version, Bill Walsh 95, allowed you to play bowls instead of a tournament
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 05, 2021, 10:34:45 PM
I'd be stunned if the new version didn't have postseason choices, including bowl tie-ins (like in '16) and 4-8-16 team playoffs.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 06, 2021, 07:50:45 PM
A 68 team playoff modeled after the hoops tourney, including the play in round? 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 06, 2021, 07:54:35 PM
A 68 team playoff modeled after the hoops tourney, including the play in round?
In Dayton's stadium
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 07, 2021, 01:54:56 AM
A 68 team playoff modeled after the hoops tourney, including the play in round?
That's what 2020 was - 64 P5 conference teams + ND + 3 G5 (Coastal Carolina, BYU, and Louisiana).  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 07, 2021, 08:54:26 AM
That's what 2020 was - 64 P5 conference teams + ND + 3 G5 (Coastal Carolina, BYU, and Louisiana). 
No love for Cincinnati?
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 07, 2021, 02:15:30 PM
Cinci in for UL.  Who cares?  lol

One interesting thing about Cincinnati/Fickell/MSU though:  In 24/7 rankings, Cincinnati is the highest-ranked G5 program, one position ahead of the Spartans.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: rolltidefan on February 08, 2021, 10:39:14 AM
The first one, Bill Walsh football, had a 16 team tournament at the end of the season. I thought it was so awesome, when the second version, Bill Walsh 95, allowed you to play bowls instead of a tournament
there was a sega college football game in 92/93 that allowed you to pick different post seasons, playoffs, bowls, etc. i still have it, but my sega crapped out on me finally. fun little game. you could even sim the season and everything. used to spend hours doing that.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 08, 2021, 12:53:09 PM
There's been plenty of cool ideas in games that haven't stuck.  The technology to do it isn't the problem.  I'm not sure why it isn't all included still - just because something is included doesn't mean everyone has to use it.  
I never played the mascot games, I thought it was lame.  But having it there didn't bother me any.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: TyphonInc on February 17, 2021, 08:57:07 AM
Esports is excited to have College Football back.


https://tvrev.com/return-of-ea-sports-college-football-game-opens-esports-to-new-fans/
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 17, 2021, 09:43:20 AM
In Dayton's stadium


Yes, and definitely auto-bids for the FCS Conferences as well.

But only after each Conference replaces their CCG with a Conference Tournament patterned after their Basketball Conference Tournament.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2021, 09:44:28 AM
Yes, whatever gets us a 4-loss national champion!
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 17, 2021, 10:10:28 AM
Oh it is way better than that.

Under this method, a team could theoretically lose every single regular season game, then get hot and win their Conference Tourney and then use that as a springboard to become the National Champion.

And since it is a videogame, you could intentionally make it so.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2021, 10:22:09 AM
Reminds me of when Florida revamped the districts for high school football.  Some only had 3 or 4 schools, so you had 2-8 teams making the playoffs and 7-3 teams left out.
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Brilliance.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 17, 2021, 10:26:31 AM
But yes, on NCAA Football:  The Video Game, it's a realignment fan's wet dream.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 19, 2021, 09:45:29 AM
The problem with the create a team was that you had to wipe another team out of existence. Take their spot, more or less. 

I could never bring myself to wipe a Big Ten team off of the face of the earth, so I would do it to Temple, who was in the original Big East at the time. Unless I wanted to be an "Independent" at which point I would wipe out UCF? iirc. Eventually I would be invited to join either the ACC or Big East in place of one of their existing teams, who would then become Independent afterwards. 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: FearlessF on February 19, 2021, 11:00:21 AM
Michigan was in the Big Ten at that time, NO?
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 19, 2021, 12:30:28 PM
Couldn't you create your team, kick out someone like UAB, and then put your team into a conference?  It's been so long, I don't remember.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: rolltidefan on February 19, 2021, 04:07:16 PM
on one of them you could, don't remember on all of them.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 19, 2021, 04:14:10 PM
Michigan was in the Big Ten at that time, NO?


And deprive myself of the pleasure of hanging a triple digit score on them? 

Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 19, 2021, 11:08:45 PM
Calling late timeouts to score again vs a rival.  
Going for 2 late vs a rival.
These are a few of my favorite things.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 19, 2021, 11:12:03 PM
It was all about the ten point play, where you get a safety, return the ensuing kick for a TD, then go for two.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 19, 2021, 11:25:17 PM
I remember some variations had points to unlock classic teams, and possibly additional stadiums? And you earned points by accomplishing things like beating a rival or winning a conference championship, or heading individual milestones. But I also remember you got points for sportsmanship, like punting the ball on 4th down or taking knees at the end of the game, which I always found funny
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Kris60 on February 20, 2021, 12:00:39 AM
I used to make all the guys that were on my team in HS and put them on Texas Tech because we basically had the same uniforms.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 20, 2021, 02:22:30 AM
I definitely created my high school team.  We were defense-heavy for sure.  We were replacing our QB, RB, and 4 OL.  My JR year we went 7-3 and had something like 5 shutouts.  
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: ELA on February 22, 2021, 01:54:44 PM
Why can't we just have nice things?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/30945806/notre-dame-participate-new-ea-sports-college-football-game-nil-rules-finalized
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Mdot21 on February 22, 2021, 02:04:09 PM
ND a bunch of catholic pussies.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 22, 2021, 04:21:54 PM
This is a little confusing - I recall seeing ND in the fine print of the video game, as if they were their own, separate entity.  But when I looked into licensing for Whoa Nellie, I was surprised to find ND was under the company that had roughly 1/3 of P5 teams under its umbrella.  I forget the name, but Georgia was in it.  The other licensing company had a bulk of the bigger programs.  

But I'm sure it's all more combobulated than I can figure.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: OrangeAfroMan on February 26, 2021, 06:19:22 PM
Now Northwestern is waiting like ND, to be in the game.
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on February 26, 2021, 07:10:59 PM
Well that game is going to suck. 
Title: Re: EA Sports College Football
Post by: TyphonInc on February 26, 2021, 07:21:29 PM
Now Northwestern is waiting like ND, to be in the game.
Will the B1G step in and tell Northwestern to line up with the rest of the Ducks?