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The Power Five => SEC => Tennessee => Topic started by: TREX on January 27, 2021, 09:18:54 AM
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He was one fine QB
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At least we finally got away from hiring from the GUMPS.
Not a lot of coaches willing to take the risk with Tennessee and a lot of them were never asked who said they were just used it to get a raise.
At least he knows a QB when he sees one and he wasn't afraid to take the job.
Who knows he may be the next Bob Neyland.
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Good as anyone I guess. At least better than the last 2
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Better than Pruitt....... so at least there’s that
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He was one fine QB
We didn't win many on the field this season but we virtually wiped out UCF's football program this season....we got their AD and football coach and week before signing day.
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It's whatever, I guess.
But is there anything more Tennessee than "hitting the homerun" with Danny White from UCF (1.8 million bucks), to hiring a search firm for Lord knows how much money to do the vetting process, to only then go out and hire a guy that Danny White already vetted, and hired 3 years ago.
I mean....send in the clowns. WTH is going on up there? :)
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Tennessee is about to be hit with sanctions and NCAA probation and still hired a B+ football coach. Looks like a home run hire under these circumstances.
PS....lot of money left over for a new staff as well...GBO
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I am underwhelmed but given the circumstances there ae not a lot of 'homerun hires' who are willing to come to what is going to be a major headache for a few years to come.
Not to mention dealing with so many who demand instant gratification.
So welcome aboard coach, we wish you and the team well.
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I for one am glad to get him rumors had it Sonny Dykes from SMU and Tony Elliot from Clemson were at the top of the list.
With what Tennessee is facing from the actions of Fulmer and the GUMP Pruitt no "home run" hire as some put it would take the chance on soiling their reputation.
Hugh Freeze was never an option because of his trouble with the NCAA at Ole Miss. Kiffin likewise isn't squeaky clean either and he's just another GUMP.
Danny White knew this going in so he had to get someone who didn't have any rules violations against him.
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UT reportedly reached out to Cincinnati's Luke Fickell, Penn State's James Franklin, SMU's Sonny Dykes, Minnesota's PJ Fleck, and Clemson's OC Tony Elliott. Would you rather have had any of them?
UCF's record:
2017 - 13-0 (Under Scott Frost)
2018 - 12-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-4
Not really trending in the right direction, although there was nowhere to go but down. Scott Frost is about to get run out of his alma mater, so you have to hope it turns out better than that.
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UT reportedly reached out to Cincinnati's Luke Fickell, Penn State's James Franklin, SMU's Sonny Dykes, Minnesota's PJ Fleck, and Clemson's OC Tony Elliott. Would you rather have had any of them?
UCF's record:
2017 - 13-0 (Under Scott Frost)
2018 - 12-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-4
Not really trending in the right direction, although there was nowhere to go but down. Scott Frost is about to get run out of his alma mater, so you have to hope it turns out better than that.
Not going to judge anyone's record against them in 2020. The damn virus effected every school differently,
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UT reportedly reached out to Cincinnati's Luke Fickell, Penn State's James Franklin, SMU's Sonny Dykes, Minnesota's PJ Fleck, and Clemson's OC Tony Elliott. Would you rather have had any of them?
UCF's record:
2017 - 13-0 (Under Scott Frost)
2018 - 12-1
2019 - 10-3
2020 - 6-4
Not really trending in the right direction, although there was nowhere to go but down. Scott Frost is about to get run out of his alma mater, so you have to hope it turns out better than that.
We really don't know who was contacted or offered it's all just rumors we only know who was willing to take the job under the current circumstances surrounding the program.
That in itself speaks volumes for the man showing he has enough confidence and the courage to take the job.
I consider those who supposedly turned us down a bunch of scared pussies wanting to step into a cushy job where they don't have to work as hard.
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What would be an example of a "cushy" head coaching job where they don't have to work hard?
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Heupel's offenses have ranked 4th, 2nd and 2nd in the nation the last 3 years. During that same timeframe, UT's offenses have ranked above 100th.
Heupel's 3 losses in 2019 were by 1 point, 3 points and 3 points and all were road games.
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Not going to judge anyone's record against them in 2020. The damn virus effected every school differently,
Except BAma, Ohio St., Clemson, Oklahoma …...the ones that always win.
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Scott Frost is about to get run out of his alma mater, so you have to hope it turns out better than that.
Like Michigan & Tennessee, that's another program where they think they can wave a magic wand and it's 1990 all over again.
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What would be an example of a "cushy" head coaching job where they don't have to work hard?
"Alabama" where players have to take a pay cut to go to the NFL. You don't get the top class every year with all the five star recruits without money passing hands. When you have boosters providing the money to buy top players no recruiting is required.
Where do you think Pruitt learned it but Alabama is a big revenue producer for the SEC and TV so it goes unchecked.
Take a look at the cars some of the Alabama players drive those who supposedly come for poor families and neighborhoods.
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Alabama's long history of unpunished NCAA violations under Nick Saban
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/alabama%27s-long-history-unpunished-ncaa-violations-under-nick-saban
https://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/why-do-so-many-alabama-crimson-tide-football-players-drive-nice-cars
https://archive.totalfratmove.com/alabama-football-is-the-best-car-dealership-in-the-country/
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Except BAma, Ohio St., Clemson, Oklahoma …...the ones that always win.
It affected Clemson some as they lost a few key players before a key game.
When entire groups of players receivers and QBs could not practice and most of whom had never played together until the season was on them it affects them drastically while another teams has played together for years and has players stockpiled to just plug in.
Next team has some who has played together over the years and some have not but they get 2'3rds preseason to develop so they perform better than the example above.
Another team is blessed with a stock pile of experienced talented linemen a couple get sick no big deal, But another school only has a mixture but several get sic and miss most of practice and there is no time to develop the cohesion, but the rest of the team escapes un scathed but they suffer some losses due to the issues with the line
And so it goes.
Every school was effected different from some many fronts, coaches affected and when, player affected and the depth and experience levels. There was no real level playing field which affects performance on the field. There is no way to fairly judge a team and its record this past year.
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I doubt there are many "cushy" P5 coaching jobs out there. Some of course are lower pressure jobs, like say Kansas State, but I'd guess the HC works pretty hard there.
I suspect nearly all HCs are highly motivated as they generally have worked up through the ranks at one time or another.
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Except BAma, Ohio St., Clemson, Oklahoma …...the ones that always win.
And along with Notre Dame who is always over rated.
They're the ones where cheating is rampant and the NCAA won't touch it because of the revenue produced by those same teams going to the national championship every year.
Do you think TV ratings would have been as high if Cincinnati or a one lose Texas A&M were two of the teams? It's all a shell game with the NCAA and conference offices turning a blind eye to all the cheating of a select few because it's all bout getting a team into the national championship playoff.
Why do you think the Big TEN allowed Ohio St in their championship game? They didn't want to be left out and they would have been if Ohio St. hadn't won their championship.
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I doubt there are many "cushy" P5 coaching jobs out there. Some of course are lower pressure jobs, like say Kansas State, but I'd guess the HC works pretty hard there.
I suspect nearly all HCs are highly motivated as they generally have worked up through the ranks at one time or another.
I can name you four that weren't motivated the were fired by Tennessee it was take the money and run. They became instant millionaires with million dollar buy outs thanks to stupid AD's letting Jimmy Sexton write the contracts.
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Are you saying Tennessee is an example of a "Cushy HC job"?
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I can name you four that weren't motivated the were fired by Tennessee it was take the money and run. They became instant millionaires with million dollar buy outs thanks to stupid AD's letting Jimmy Sexton write the contracts.
You are just giving him fuel to take back to the Big Ten board and a few other sites nd yuck it up about Tn's misfortunes with
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What would be an example of a "cushy" head coaching job where they don't have to work hard?
This was my question. One response above cites Tennessee as an example. I was asking if that is correct.
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You are just giving him fuel to take back to the Big Ten board and a few other sites nd yuck it up about Tn's misfortunes with
They can't yuck it much we beat a good Indiana team for the Big Ten with a less than average QB and have a good record against the Big Ten in bowl games.
The Big Ten can't even count they don't even know how many teams they have or they wouldn't be the Big Ten.
I don't care what he takes to the Big Ten board they're a second rate conference anyway and a buckeye is nothing but a useless nut.
Ohio State is one of the worst in the country when it comes to cheating. Tressel had to retire so they hired another cheater in CUM who was and has always been as bad at cheating as anyone in Alabama.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/02/us/ohio-state-university-scandals/index.html
https://www.10tv.com/article/sports/ncaa/ncaaf/ohio-state-football/ohio-state-banned-bowl-next-season-placed-3-years-probation/530-e9e9f306-2c45-415f-9bca-06f302b4deeb
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/scandal-rocks-ohio-state-university-as-83-students-accused-of-cheating-via-app
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15 Most Unethical Programs in College Football History
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/15-unethical-college-football-programs
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Like Michigan & Tennessee, that's another program where they think they can wave a magic wand and it's 1990 all over again.
The way Paul Finebaum views the hiring of Heupel at Tennessee, it’s largely uninspiring.
“Heupel is a good coach, but he is not going to inspire many people. I think what it shows more than anything else is Tennessee is not a very good job,” Finebaum said to SDS’s Connor O’Gara on the latest Saturday Down South Podcast (https://soundcloud.com/saturday-down-south-podcast/a-big-announcement-paul-finebaum-interview-sec-teams-as-current-country-music-artists-ep-368). “You can’t go out and hire the best coaches at Tennessee because not only has the program been in a free fall, but it is facing punishing NCAA sanctions and I think for that reason, most people wanted to stay away.”
The ESPN and SEC Network host doesn’t see Tennessee being very competitive in the years to come following this move.
“I think Tennessee is heading toward a very bad and dark period, of which, it has to be content — even though it won’t be — to win 6 or 7 games,” Finebaum continued. “It’s not impossible to go from that level to great success, but I don’t see it in the near future.
“I’m usually not one to be overly pessimistic because I’ve seen a lot, as you have. I don’t have a good feeling about this program right now. I think Josh Heupel is indicative of that. If it wins 8 or 9 games in the next 2 or 3 years, that would be considered fantastic. But I think the program has to lower its sights.
“It’s no longer relevant. Tennessee is no longer an important program in the SEC. It has fallen that far behind, and I say that as a Tennessee graduate and as someone who remembers Tennessee being on a similar plateau as Alabama. It wasn’t that long ago, but it seems like forever.”
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I can take about ten minutes of that bald headed GUMP then have to turn it off.
Finebaum may be a UT alum but he spent to many years in Birmingham becoming a BAMA homer. All he does is kiss ass to Saban talking about him being the greatest of all time.
If I had boosters buying me five star players that I didn't have to recruit I would be the greatest of all time.
Finebaum continually runs down UT and the football program not just the coaches or a bad AD but the entire university.
If he was truly an alumni who supported UT he wouldn't be bad mouthing the program or who was hired as head coach and especially not the new AD Danny White for hiring him. He would welcome the new coach and support him as alumni should. But no he takes it upon himself to criticize and demean a mans reputation before the first snap is taken or before he sees the results on the field of what a new coach can do.
He knows less about football, football coaches, football players or anything concerning football than Howard Cosell.
He read a list of supposedly the 10 best football coaches of all time with Bear Bryant as the best and General Neyland wasn't on it nor did he even mention him.
If you read a list of the ten best coaches in the history of the game with Tom Osborne and CUM on it without General Neyland then you're a moron and Paul Finebaum is a moron.
Bear personally set the record straight...
"Everyone thinks I'm the best damn coach in the country. But (Neyland) taught me everything I know."In seven attempts, Bear Bryant never defeated General Neyland."I never beat him," he said, "but I learned a lot from playing him."At General Neyland's retirement banquet, Bryant muttered "thank God the old guy finally quit."
from 'The Last Coach: A Life of Paul "Bear" Bryant'