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The Power Five => SEC => Tennessee => Topic started by: Volbrigade/oU on January 01, 2021, 07:46:46 PM
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The monotony of their success is just overbearing.
It seems like they have been the best team in college football FOREVER. How long before this comes to an end? How bout just a regular ol’ 8-win season, just for a change?
My interest in CFB is incumbent upon the Vols, for the most part. When we suck (provide your own punchline), my interest in it wanes.
But still, it’s strange: Bama and ND — the two marquee programs in the long history of the game — playing in the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all —
And I really couldn’t care less.
It is indicative that the “Rose Bowl” wasn’t even played in the Rose Bowl —
and it was evident that The Irish didn’t belong on the same field with Bama.
Same ol’, same ol’…
Hopefully, my new local team can take care of business against them Yankees.
And put a beatdown on The Tide.
At least they wear orange…
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I didn’t even realized they played until I read this post. Game was already over and saw that Bama won. Then I thought will I watch Clemson and Ohio State? Answer is no. Who cares. I am just waiting on our next basketball game. In The meantime I will find something else to watch instead of football.
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Pencil in Bama, Clemson, and Ohio St for next year’s playoffs as well.
4th spot, beatdown candidates:
Georgia, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
Where have I seen this movie before?
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The monotony of their success is just overbearing.
It seems like they have been the best team in college football FOREVER. How long before this comes to an end? How bout just a regular ol’ 8-win season, just for a change?
My interest in CFB is incumbent upon the Vols, for the most part. When we suck (provide your own punchline), my interest in it wanes.
But still, it’s strange: Bama and ND — the two marquee programs in the long history of the game — playing in the Rose Bowl, the granddaddy of them all —
And I really couldn’t care less.
It is indicative that the “Rose Bowl” wasn’t even played in the Rose Bowl —
and it was evident that The Irish didn’t belong on the same field with Bama.
Same ol’, same ol’…
Hopefully, my new local team can take care of business against them Yankees.
And put a beatdown on The Tide.
At least they wear orange…
But Lawrence, who grew up a Vol fan,was not good enough to play D1 football per someone I won't name. Lots of instate talent on that team that could of been in a different shade of Orange. Sad.
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Wow.
Things in California have gotten so bad that even the Rose Bowl has left the state.
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Pencil in Bama, Clemson, and Ohio St for next year’s playoffs as well.
4th spot, beatdown candidates:
Georgia, Florida, Oklahoma, Notre Dame
Where have I seen this movie before?
Maybe add Oregon to that list but it really does make college football pointless when you know 3 of the 4 teams that will be there before the first ball is ever kicked.
Since the inception of the CFP there have been 28 participants and only 11 different programs have filled those 28 spots with only 6 of those 11 actually winning a game.
Until there is somehow/someway a way to equally disperse the talent things will never change
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The officials are gift wrapping the game for tOSU... from blatant holding no calls to calling fumbles that were obviously recovered by Lawrence for the D...
The theft for tOSU is as blatant as it was for Clemson last year.
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I have lost much interest in CFB as well. I’m sure much due to TN being bad for a long time. The Saban Effect is another.
However, I think the rule changes have been the biggest factor. You can no longer touch the qb and if you tackle hard it can be called targeting. Targeting calls are so arbitrary; saw a Clemson player get thrown out tonight for an excellent tackle to the body. The OL can typically hold at will. Why not eliminate the punt altogether and just play flag football?
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There is no reason we couldn’t be Clemson. Same area — Foothills of the Appalachians. Same fan demographic. We have more, deeper tradition. Bigger stadium. More rabid fan base (imho).
What they have that we don’t is a character coach who is intelligent, speaks well, and Mommas tell their boys “you gon’ go play for Mist’ Dabo.”
The fact that they’re where they are — despited how it goes for them tonight, don’t look good, but they have a bunch of coaches and (I think) some players that didn’t make the trip, in this weird year —
and we’re where we are, speaks to almost criminal mismanagement, misjudgment, and malpractice among those in charge.
I don’t know anything about what Clemson does right, other than their results —
and only slightly more about what we do wrong.
One caveat — I suspect that they would be a consistent 1 to 3 loss team in the SEC.
I’d take that. Wouldn’t you?
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The officials are gift wrapping the game for tOSU... from blatant holding no calls to calling fumbles that were obviously recovered by Lawrence for the D...
The theft for tOSU is as blatant as it was for Clemson last year.
Holding is apparently the new blocking.
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Alabama has 6 first team All Americans this year plus 2 Heisman finalist.
I doubt any other team has had 6 first team All Americans total in the last 10 years.
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herb and crew are so blatantly tOSU biased it's comical... the 'interception' just happened in the end zone... earlier THIS season i heard the same crew argue "all that matters is there was possession in the EZ, no matter how brief"...
it's a micro view of the way the media operates in this nation... i KNOW what i just saw, but i'm to accept what YOU saw and what 'officials' called.
and i call bull shit.
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herb and crew are so blatantly tOSU biased it's comical... the 'interception' just happened in the end zone... earlier THIS season i heard the same crew argue "all that matters is there was possession in the EZ, no matter how brief"...
it's a micro view of the way the media operates in this nation... i KNOW what i just saw, but i'm to accept what YOU saw and what 'officials' called.
and i call bull shit.
Absolutely can’t stand Chris Fowler
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The officials are gift wrapping the game for tOSU... from blatant holding no calls to calling fumbles that were obviously recovered by Lawrence for the D...
The theft for tOSU is as blatant as it was for Clemson last year.
Not going to argue the calls because they were reviewed especially the fumble...holding yep we did and so did they but if you really want to know the details:
Ohio State 639 total yards..we held them to 44 yards rushing..and had them beat by almost 10 minutes in TOP...we also had 385 passing yards and 254 rushing yards. I wouldn't call it theft but I would call it dominating.
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https://twitter.com/KingJames/status/1345233453697150976?s=20
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Not going to argue the calls because they were reviewed especially the fumble...holding yep we did and so did they but if you really want to know the details:
Ohio State 639 total yards..we held them to 44 yards rushing..and had them beat by almost 10 minutes in TOP...we also had 385 passing yards and 254 rushing yards. I wouldn't call it theft but I would call it dominating.
Not a Buckeye fan but they were the better team last night. I assume Dabo will rank Ohio State higher than 11th in the final coaches poll.
Rule #1..never give the other team bulletin board material unless you can back it up.
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Not a Buckeye fan but they were the better team last night. I assume Dabo will rank Ohio State higher than 11th in the final coaches poll.
Rule #1..never give the other team bulletin board material unless you can back it up.
Dabo made himself look like a fool
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Dabo made himself look like a fool
Yes he did !!!
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But Lawrence, who grew up a Vol fan,was not good enough to play D1 football per someone I won't name. Lots of instate talent on that team that could of been in a different shade of Orange. Sad.
Go ahead I want to know.
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Go ahead I want to know.
Well you’d have to wonder which is worse ....... Butch was dumb enough to tell him to look elsewhere, Tater head would’ve recruited him but is too dumb to actually play him.
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Alabama didn't ruin college football the NCAA did in several ways. They allow the top teams especially Alabama to continue their cheating and buying players.
It's show me the money the TV audience and in person attendance wouldn't be as high if BYU were playing Cincinnati. So the fat cats have to stay fat or lose revenue.
They made rule changes to help the offense in order to run up the score. Again it's about the money fans like scoring not defensive struggles.
The biggest fiasco was changing the rule for blocking to allow the hands to be used. No one blacks anymore they all grab a hand full of jersey and hold on.
The change for a CFB should have been win your conference and you're in the playoffs no exceptions. If Notre Dame or other independents want in join a conference to play for the championship.
Notre Dame has been a complete bust every time the get voted in so again it's the money.
The FCS schools have a football playoff 24 teams I believe with the top 8 getting a by. It's worked really well and a real champion wins not some team picked by a committee.
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Well you’d have to wonder which is worse ....... Butch was dumb enough to tell him to look elsewhere, Tater head would’ve recruited him but is too dumb to actually play him.
:hee20hee20hee:
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herb and crew are so blatantly tOSU biased it's comical... the 'interception' just happened in the end zone... earlier THIS season i heard the same crew argue "all that matters is there was possession in the EZ, no matter how brief"...
it's a micro view of the way the media operates in this nation... i KNOW what i just saw, but i'm to accept what YOU saw and what 'officials' called.
and i call bull shit.
Herbie IS very tOSU biased for obvious reasons, he graduated there and "played" there, that said, listen to a "Bama game when Gary Danielson is calling the game, it would make Herbie's bias seem non-existent.
BTW, they had Big 12 refs calling the game so I would think any bias there would be minimal at best if any.
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The first run TD by tOSU was because of a blatant hold which was clear in the replay..... and they showed that angle ONCE... the booth didn't say a word...
The Lawrence fumble was downed by Lawrence by pinning the ball to the deck for a full second of not two before ot was pounced on...
The interception late was a Clemson TD. He had full possession and was in act of bringing it in when it was literally punched out. Now on the field of play that was a fumble not an interception... in the EZ? Thats a TD.
Now tOSU was clearly and decisively the better team and won accordingly and to the point that Bama better not mail it in (pun, in this political climate, intended)... and Dabo was shown for the loudmouth idiot he can be and has been since he grew in his britches and head swell... but.. the zebras were far from legit last night no matter. That is all.
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Well you’d have to wonder which is worse ....... Butch was dumb enough to tell him to look elsewhere, Tater head would’ve recruited him but is too dumb to actually play him.
Sometimes I wonder if it's hatred or just plain stupidity that causes you guys to keep posting stuff that's outright inaccurate.....or lies.
Trevor Lawrence signed with Clemson in the early signing date of 2017.....before Pruitt was even UT's coach.
FYI....Alabama recruited Lawrence hard and offered him early...while Pruitt was a coordinator.
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OSU was clearly the better team last night. Clem seemed unprepared, particularly on D.
From an officiating perspective it was a bit like watching Bama play with SEC officials; help where you can.
Herbie is a tool and I really don't like OSU, but I hope they beat Bama. I think we see a close game.
https://youtu.be/FSDP0nZoOTs
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Alabama didn't ruin college football the NCAA did in several ways.
Neither ruined college football. The media ruined it, lead by ESPN.
There's WAAAAAAY too much emphasis on winning, and nearly everyone's bought into it. If that wrankles you, then you're one of those who's gotten your manhood wrapped up in winning/championships, etc. That's just the way ESPN wanted it - boost ratings for those championship games.
College football brought far more widespread enjoyment back when they crowned a mythical national champion. Now you've got a country full of miserable, angry and disappointed fans, and in our case, and in our case a bunch of delusionally entitled yahoos living in the past. "We should be elite, and you've got 3 years (and one quarterback) to get us knocking on the door or I'm calling for your head."
What? You just enjoyed seeing your team go 8-4? Are you a man? You wouldn't want Steven A Smith to call you a sissy would you?
Fans of college football need to grow up. Support your team. Hope for the best. You're not a loser just because your team doesn't win. Don't listen to ESPN - championships aren't everything.
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Neither ruined college football. The media ruined it, lead by ESPN.
There's WAAAAAAY too much emphasis on winning, and nearly everyone's bought into it. If that wrankles you, then you're one of those who's gotten your manhood wrapped up in winning/championships, etc. That's just the way ESPN wanted it - boost ratings for those championship games.
College football brought far more widespread enjoyment back when they crowned a mythical national champion. Now you've got a country full of miserable, angry and disappointed fans, and in our case, and in our case a bunch of delusionally entitled yahoos living in the past. "We should be elite, and you've got 3 years (and one quarterback) to get us knocking on the door or I'm calling for your head."
What? You just enjoyed seeing your team go 8-4? Are you a man? You wouldn't want Steven A Smith to call you a sissy would you?
Fans of college football need to grow up. Support your team. Hope for the best. You're not a loser just because your team doesn't win. Don't listen to ESPN - championships aren't everything.
That’s the faggiest response I’ve ever read. Here’s your participation trophy fuzz
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One thing fuzz has right though is that our beloved Vols will never be relevant again in this system. All the talent is concentrated right where the media wants it. Those teams that the media has deemed champions will be the champions from here on out. The media loves to see the Vols fail. We will live in mediocrity forever with maybe a few flashes of brilliance.
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One thing fuzz has right though is that our beloved Vols will never be relevant again in this system. All the talent is concentrated right where the media wants it. Those teams that the media has deemed champions will be the champions from here on out. The media loves to see the Vols fail. We will live in mediocrity forever with maybe a few flashes of brilliance.
One thing?
The Vols are settling into their rightful place as a middle-of-the-pack SEC school. The sooner the fan base accepts that (which may never happen), the sooner our fans can go back to enjoying college football.
I'm all for having winners and losers, I'm just against sore losers. Before the ESPNification of sports, it just wasn't as big a deal, and everyone could just enjoy college football. I realize some are too insecure to reconsider how they view things, and have their manhood wrapped up in things like being right and winning. Participants may not deserve trophies, but they do deserve appreciation and support.
I follow the team closely - am familiar with the entire roster and follow recruiting. That's hard to do with all the bitching from all the negative fans who're never going to be satisfied. ESPN has gotten into their heads and they don't even know it. They want Scott Van Pelt's validation so bad they can't stand it. It's pathetic when you think about it.
You want to be a man? Accept defeat graciously.
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The first run TD by tOSU was because of a blatant hold which was clear in the replay..... and they showed that angle ONCE... the booth didn't say a word...
The Lawrence fumble was downed by Lawrence by pinning the ball to the deck for a full second of not two before ot was pounced on...
The interception late was a Clemson TD. He had full possession and was in act of bringing it in when it was literally punched out. Now on the field of play that was a fumble not an interception... in the EZ? Thats a TD.
Now tOSU was clearly and decisively the better team and won accordingly and to the point that Bama better not mail it in (pun, in this political climate, intended)... and Dabo was shown for the loudmouth idiot he can be and has been since he grew in his britches and head swell... but.. the zebras were far from legit last night no matter. That is all.
I think that you can blame the rules committee on you first point. They allowed the offensive line to use hands when they block. THERE IS HOLDING ON ALMOST EVERY PLAY TO SOME EXTENT.
The ruling on the interception was that he didn't have control. It didn't effect the outcome of the game since it was intercepted with 1:30 left in the game. It was officially ruled as an interception but either way, fumble or interception the reply was held up.
The first was Sermons run which you claim blatant hold...you can stop/start the video.
https://youtu.be/YQnmO2fFYiY
This is the interception...kind of hard to tell if had possession, but the review was held up.
https://youtu.be/lwFAQ3TTh54
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#75 at 0:29 just out of sight of his hands but which show at 0:30/0:31 the handful of jersey....
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One thing?
The Vols are settling into their rightful place as a middle-of-the-pack SEC school. The sooner the fan base accepts that (which may never happen), the sooner our fans can go back to enjoying college football.
I'm all for having winners and losers, I'm just against sore losers. Before the ESPNification of sports, it just wasn't as big a deal, and everyone could just enjoy college football. I realize some are too insecure to reconsider how they view things, and have their manhood wrapped up in things like being right and winning. Participants may not deserve trophies, but they do deserve appreciation and support.
I follow the team closely - am familiar with the entire roster and follow recruiting. That's hard to do with all the bitching from all the negative fans who're never going to be satisfied. ESPN has gotten into their heads and they don't even know it. They want Scott Van Pelt's validation so bad they can't stand it. It's pathetic when you think about it.
You want to be a man? Accept defeat graciously.
The Vols are settling into their rightful place as a middle-of-the-pack SEC school.
So would Bama without Saban.
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One thing?
Projection is your forte. See “ having your manhood wrapped up in things like being right and winning” below.
The Vols are settling into their rightful place as a middle-of-the-pack SEC school. The sooner the fan base accepts that (which may never happen), the sooner our fans can go back to enjoying college football.
Most likely true, but that doesn’t mean we should just sit and be quiet. Seems like you and roadie have that as a common thought. Only your opinion matters, everyone else should just shut up and accept it.
I'm all for having winners and losers,
duh?
I'm just against sore losers.
Your self loathing is epic. You didn’t seem to espouse this opinion after the 2016 election.
I follow the team closely - am familiar with the entire roster and follow recruiting.
What is every poster on this board Alex?
That's hard to do with all the bitching from all the negative fans who're never going to be satisfied.
Not really. Anyone with the internet can easily do it regardless of what another person says.
ESPN has gotten into their heads and they don't even know it. They want Scott Van Pelt's validation so bad they can't stand it. It's pathetic when you think about it.
Idolatry is your brand fuzz, not mine.
You want to be a man? Accept defeat graciously.
Once again, practice what you preach.
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#75 at 0:29 just out of sight of his hands but which show at 0:30/0:31 the handful of jersey....
If you look at the 30 second mark, his elbows were extended out in a blocking manner, even so the runner was almost 10 yards past them at this point.
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One thing?
The Vols are settling into their rightful place as a middle-of-the-pack SEC school. The sooner the fan base accepts that (which may never happen), the sooner our fans can go back to enjoying college football.
I'm all for having winners and losers, I'm just against sore losers. Before the ESPNification of sports, it just wasn't as big a deal, and everyone could just enjoy college football. I realize some are too insecure to reconsider how they view things, and have their manhood wrapped up in things like being right and winning. Participants may not deserve trophies, but they do deserve appreciation and support.
I follow the team closely - am familiar with the entire roster and follow recruiting. That's hard to do with all the bitching from all the negative fans who're never going to be satisfied. ESPN has gotten into their heads and they don't even know it. They want Scott Van Pelt's validation so bad they can't stand it. It's pathetic when you think about it.
You want to be a man? Accept defeat graciously.
I'm curious if you thought Alabama was in it's "rightful" place until they got Saban?
Was Clemson in their "rightful place" before they got Dabo?
Was LSU in their "rightful place" until ty got a once in a Heisman Trophy " QB?.
I realize you post idiotic things often just to get attention but why?
UT is where they are now because of some almost criminal decisions made by UT leadership starting with the firing of Fulmer forced by idiotic fans and a weak AD
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I'm curious if you thought Alabama was in it's "rightful" place until they got Saban?
No, they were under-performing, just as they're over-performing now. Georgia/Florida should be the class of the conference followed closely by LSU/Bama/Texas A&M.
We're not in the group and won't be in 10 years, either. Wonder how many more coaches we'll have gone through by then, and how many more times I'll have to make this point?
Was Clemson in their "rightful place" before they got Dabo?
They're a fluke, and a prime example of the importance of quarterback recruiting. There are 130 teams playing Division 1 football, and the exceptions don't make the rule.
Was LSU in their "rightful place" until ty got a once in a Heisman Trophy " QB?.
Yes, they were.
I realize you post idiotic things often just to get attention but why?
Trolling brings me joy - what can I say? You don't seem to mind when Trump does it.
UT is where they are now because of some almost criminal decisions made by UT leadership starting with the firing of Fulmer forced by idiotic fans and a weak AD.
The reality of the Tennessee's temporary, over-rated period of so-called "elite" football in the 90's was even catching up to the man who was arguably most responsible for it - the man who bought into the fallacy of his own legend. Mr. Phillip Edward Fulmer. It was time for him to move on. Unlike Rick Barnes - there was to be no second act. His time was past.
For the record, I'm in favor of granting Pruitt a mulligan for this year. Next year he's going to need to win at least 7 regular season games to keep his job, and I'm not even sure that'll be enough (depends on how he loses games). I'm pulling for him.
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Was their elite status only temporary when they enjoyed parts of the 30's, 40's 50's ,60's,70's, 80's and 90's and 2000's also a fluke?
The period between 2010 and now is the only decade of mediocrity dating back to the 30's
Sometime I wonder if you even attempt to be credible.
Are you so desperate for attention you try to look like a fool?
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If you look at the 30 second mark, his elbows were extended out in a blocking manner, even so the runner was almost 10 yards past them at this point.
It doesn't make any difference if he was flapping his elbows like a chicken trying to fly all Lineman hold they don't block. They grab a hand full of jersey calling it blocking. It's only called occasionally seldom ever on the likes of OSU and Alabama. But sure as hell will be if those two are behind it will be called on their opponents to kill a drive.
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It doesn't make any difference if he was flapping his elbows like a chicken trying to fly all Lineman hold they don't block. They grab a hand full of jersey calling it blocking. It's only called occasionally seldom ever on the likes of OSU and Alabama. But sure as hell will be if those two are behind it will be called on their opponents to kill a drive.
Like I said in a post above:
"I think that you can blame the rules committee on you first point. They allowed the offensive line to use hands when they block. THERE IS HOLDING ON ALMOST EVERY PLAY TO SOME EXTENT."
and you don't think that schools other than tOSU or Bama don't "teach" their players to hold and/or how to hold without getting caught? They all do it!