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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on November 23, 2020, 12:14:00 PM
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It is all but over in both divisions. The big NU/UW and tOSU/IU showdowns produced prohibitive favorites in NU and tOSU.
B1G-E:
- 4-0 Ohio State: If the Buckeyes lose a game other than Illinois and end up tied (in the loss column) with Maryland, the Terps would win that tie because their loss (NU) was non-divisional. Even if Ohio State's hyothetical loss was to IL, the Terps would probably still win based on a better record by their B1G-W opponents.
- 2-1 Maryland: The Terps have the next best shot after Ohio State but they need to win out and they need somebody to take out Ohio State.
- 4-1 Indiana: The Hoosiers need to win out (vs UMD, @UW, vs PU) but they also need two somebodies to take out Ohio State.
- 2-3 Michigan: The best Michigan could do is 5-3 with wins over tOSU and UMD but a loss to IU. Thus, in addition to winning out they would also need Ohio State to lose out, Maryland to lose at least one other game, and Indiana to lose out. One more loss eliminates them officially.
- 1-3 Michigan State: The Spartans can do no better than 4-3 so they need all kinds of help but they could theoretically get there if they win out, tOSU loses out, UMD loses at least two more, and IU loses at least two more.
- 1-4 Rutgers is mathematically eliminated because 4-4 wouldn't be enough.
- 0-5 Penn State is mathematically eliminated because 3-5 wouldn't be enough.
B1G-W:
- 5-0 Northwestern: The Wildcats are in a better position in the West than Ohio State is in the East. They can do no worse than 5-3 and they already have wins over all of the one and two-loss teams. Unless they lose at least twice or do not play any more games, they are going to the B1GCG.
- 2-1 Wisconsin: The Badgers need two somebodies to take out NU.
- 3-2 Iowa: The Hawkeyes need all kinds of help.
- 2-2 Purdue: The Boilermakers need all kinds of help.
- 2-3 Minnesota: If the Gophers finish 5-3 they'd have H2H wins over PU, UW, and NU but they'd still need NU to lose two other games and UW and PU to lose one other game each and Iowa to lose at least once more.
- 2-3 Illinois: The Illini need even more help than MN.
- 1-3 Nebraska: The Cornhuskers need all kinds of help.
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Cornhuskers are done
stick the thanksgiving fork in them
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The Wildcats have Michigan St, Minnesota and Illinois down the stretch.
They'll probably lose one of the three because, well, Northwestern.
1-2 is less likely obviously, but again, Northwestern.
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The Wildcats have Michigan St, Minnesota and Illinois down the stretch.
They'll probably lose one of the three because, well, Northwestern.
1-2 is less likely obviously, but again, Northwestern.
Considering that Northwestern has wins over the next three teams in the division, one loss wouldn't matter. Two would but probably only if UW won out and the Badgers still have to play IU and Iowa so that is certainly not a given.
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They could always beat Michigan tate, then play the covid card and gift themselves two extra weeks of preparation for the Big Ten CCG....
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I think the top is pretty much clear what will be fun and interesting is the Championship week where east plays west and the match ups to figure out placements
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should be some room to avoid rematches
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Predictions for champions week
1. NW-OSU
2. Iowa-Indy
3. Wisc- MD
4. Pur-PSU
5. ILL-Mich
6. Minn-Rut
7. Neb-MSU
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They should make it so that Nebraska has play a game against the Wolverines.
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In the race for east vs west, the west is currently up 3 games with 3 cross-division games rhis weekend
OSU-ILL
MSU-NW
Rut-Purdue
Of course the East-West race will clearly come down to the final week this year with 7 cross-division games all on the last day, including the CCG.
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Just think if Wiscy had beaten NW last Saturday. Now Wiscy gets its 3rd game cancelled making them ineligible for the CCG.
NW winning that game against Wiscy makes everything so much smoother in a year where nothing seems to go smooth
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Soon we might have to start calling it the Northwestern Invitational instead of the Wisconsin Invitational.
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Just think if Wiscy had beaten NW last Saturday. Now Wiscy gets its 3rd game cancelled making them ineligible for the CCG.
NW winning that game against Wiscy makes everything so much smoother in a year where nothing seems to go smooth
It certainly does. If Wisconsin had defeated Northwestern they would be clearly the best in the West (they still could be when at full strength) then ineligible due to the COVID outbreak at Minnesota. That would have to be one of the most ironic examples of a team screwing their rival ever.
With the Northwestern win, Wisconsin's ineligibility is not much of an issue. Northwestern is a prohibitive favorite for the CG anyway so who cares.
The one issue it might create is that I don't have any idea where an ineligible team will be placed in the rest of the Champions Week games. After the CG it is supposed to be, as I understand it:
- B1G-E #2 vs B1G-W #2
- B1G-E #3 vs B1G-W #3
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- B1G-E #7 vs B1G-W #7
It isn't clear to me whether the CG rules (ineligible if not six games) apply to #2 or not. I don't *THINK* so, but I don't know for sure. Lets assume that Wisconsin plays their other two remaining games (vIU, @IA) and finishes 4-1. Does that make them B1G-W #2 or B1G-W #7? Hopefully #2!
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It certainly does. If Wisconsin had defeated Northwestern they would be clearly the best in the West (they still could be when at full strength) then ineligible due to the COVID outbreak at Minnesota. That would have to be one of the most ironic examples of a team screwing their rival ever.
this would have been loads of fun
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What happens if . . .
Northwestern goes undefeated and has a COVID-19 outbreak the week of the championship game.
Would Iowa or Wisconsin replace Northwestern in the championship game, or is Ohio State crowned as champion? [I don't want to hear from Purdue].
What if Iowa (or Wisconsin) replaces Northwestern in the championship game and one of them defeats Ohio State in the championship game? Could Iowa or Wisconsin be Big Ten Champion without winning its own division? What think you?
Other than for championship posterity, it is somewhat not germane because this year The Rose Bowl hosts a semi-final game; the Big Ten Champion is not an automatic qualifier.
That Iowa could beat Ohio State is pretty questionable, but stranger things happen once every 17-years or so.
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What happens if . . .
Northwestern goes undefeated and has a COVID-19 outbreak the week of the championship game.
Would Iowa or Wisconsin replace Northwestern in the championship game, or is Ohio State crowned as champion? [I don't want to hear from Purdue].
What if Iowa (or Wisconsin) replaces Northwestern in the championship game and one of them defeats Ohio State in the championship game? Could Iowa or Wisconsin be Big Ten Champion without winning its own division? What think you?
There is a somewhat on point precedent. A few years ago Nebraska won the "Where is Wisconsin Division" and Wisconsin finished third in the "Why is Wisconsin Here" Division. First and second place tOSU and PSU were ineligible and third place Wisconsin won the B1GCG and was crowned B1G Champion.
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That Iowa could beat Ohio State is pretty questionable, but stranger things happen once every 17-years or so.
The boys would crawn out of their cots to extract some revenge
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Sounding like Ohio State may be unable to play this weekend
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(https://media.tenor.com/images/8c42cbd19421ed6b9db3e5ad72915b54/tenor.gif)
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Sounding like Ohio State may be unable to play this weekend
I thought our boys in Scarlet and Gray were taking it to the next level and keeping safer than an average bear. Guess, they are still young men.
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Sounding like Ohio State may be unable to play this weekend
Initially I was going to "like" your post. Sorry, one less like, after reflection. I met two COVID-19 widows Monday 11/24/2020 in my office. There isn't a goddamn thing to like about COVID-19. Good luck, godspeed, and stay safe.
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I thought our boys in Scarlet and Gray were taking it to the next level and keeping safer than an average bear. Guess, they are still young men.
guess I jinxed the Bucks
now waiting for the other shoe to drop on the Huskers
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Looks like they are "good to go"
...for now.
https://twitter.com/TIM_MAYsports/status/1331758612864176129?s=20
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Tim May is legit but with this thing who knows
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeshM-HRdGM&ab_channel=BigTenNetwork
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why didn't it work vs the purple kitties?
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https://twitter.com/11W/status/1332050540839260161?s=20
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why didn't it work vs the purple kitties?
Well because it is defense that wins championships, of course.
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IU/UMD may well be for a spot in the CG
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Ugh! Northwestern better hope it can stay safe.
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The Wildcats have Michigan St, Minnesota and Illinois down the stretch.
They'll probably lose one of the three because, well, Northwestern.
1-2 is less likely obviously, but again, Northwestern.
They certainly couldn't possibly lose all three of their final games.... could they?
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The Wildcats have Michigan St, Minnesota and Illinois down the stretch.
They'll probably lose one of the three because, well, Northwestern.
1-2 is less likely obviously, but again, Northwestern.
One of the three is lost. But, it is unlikely Minnesota v. NU will be played as Minnesota now has 40 positive virus cases.
Illinois v. NU is a "rivalry game."
NU is the likely winner of the Western Division, and if they don't have an outbreak will play Indiana, or Ohio State, or Maryland, Michigan, or Michigan State in the championship game, depending on who stays healthy.
I am guessing Indiana is the East Division entrant in the championship game.
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Weird because OSU is a NC contender, while the rest of the Conference is just a beefed up version of the MAC; a bunch of teams that are even worse than Indiana and Northwestern.
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Weird because OSU is a NC contender, while the rest of the Conference is just a beefed up version of the MAC; a bunch of teams that are even worse than Indiana and Northwestern.
Indiana was one-score from OSU, so I wouldn't consider Indiana part of a beefed up version of the MAC. But, "weird" is a good description of the 2020 season.
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I'm thinking the Hoosiers are pretty good
not sure about the other 12 teams
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If you have seen any detailed, expert film breakdown of Indiana, it is very clear that they are a very high quality football team with an extremely good scheme and execution on both sides of the ball.
Of course a lot of that will depend on if their quarterback is out for an extended period of time because he has proven that he can deliver accurate missiles with guys hanging off of him.
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They are quite good relative to the rest of the Conference. No doubt about that.
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you just wait until the Hoosiers get a matchup with a high level SEC team in a bowl game!
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What happens if OSU doesn't play enough games to make the CG?
Indiana - NW?
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you just wait until the Hoosiers get a matchup with a high level SEC team in a bowl game!
Yes. That will no doubt go really well for them, since they are such a powerhouse this year.
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What happens if OSU doesn't play enough games to make the CG?
Indiana - NW?
yes sir
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Indiana could at least compete with Georgia, I think, and likely win. I don't know about Florida as much, the Gators can score in bunches.
A&M? Maybe.
Bama? Nope.
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A&M wasn't real impressive last night vs LSU
but, LSU might be solid
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LSU is flawed but has some talent. A&M has some offensive fire power, sort of like Florida, who they beat by 3.
A&M and UF might just outscore Indiana in a shoot out that could be determined by turn overs.
UGA is starting to hint at a bit of offensive strength with the new QB (who strangely could well be gone in the draft).