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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: OrangeAfroMan on November 18, 2020, 08:23:49 PM
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What year? Emphasis on every player being good, not having one all-time great and 3 other guys.
Is Michigan's 2016?
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I'm not sure about Florida's. A lot of d-lines that come to mind had 2 studs.
2012 had 3, though: DT Sharrif Floyd, DT Dominique Easley, DE Dante Fowler....the other DT wasn't great, but he was a super-stud 5* recruit. But 3 first-rounders is pretty good.
1993/4: DE Kevin Carter & DT Ellis Johnson...and the others were very good, too.
2006: DE Jarvis Moss & DE Derrick Harvey....DT Ray McDonald was good, too. Ask Troy Smith about these guys.
1996/7/8: DT Reggie McGrew & DT Ed Chester...the DEs were basic. The '98 LB trio was sick, though.
1999/2000: DE Alex Brown & DT Gerard Warren.....all-time sack leader at UF played alongside the 3rd pick in the draft, so not bad.
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What year? Emphasis on every player being good, not having one all-time great and 3 other guys.
Is Michigan's 2016?
Best I’ve ever seen at Michigan was 2016.
Their two deep was special. Their DT’s were so underrated. Glasgow was SO good and Mo Hurst Jr- to this day it shocks me he wasn’t drafted high- he was incredible. I know he had that heart/medical issue- but 5th rd? That was insane.
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For OSU...
My mind immediately goes to 1996. I don't know that they were the best, but Matt Funkes, Winfield Garnett, Luke Fickell, and Mike Vrabel is maybe the first defense line that I remember. Certainly not a bad lineup as far as coaching goes.
2017 is pretty danged talented. Chase Young and Nick Bosa are in the 2 deep, along with Sam Hubbard, Dremont Jones, and Tyquan Lewis. I don't remember that line being so great, though.
2002 was maybe the best defense I've seen at OSU, but aside from Will Smith not a ton of star power.
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2014
Calhoun and Rush on the outside, although not a ton of depth.
Interior with McDowell (as a freshman before he went nuts), Thomas, Heath, and Knox. Back to back #1 in state recruits...and they weren't the starters.
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UW options off the top of my head (since it's been 3-4 since 2013, basically none of those are in the mix)
2009 - JJ Watt and O'Brien Schofield on the outside was just silly. Butrum, Moore, and Stehle weren't bonkers good, but were plenty solid.
2004 - That defense was built on a monster D-line, though the back end was super as well. Anttaj Hawthorne, Erasmus James, Jason Jefferson and Jonathan Welsh. Had a couple OK backups.
1998 - Tom Burke was the star with Jake Sprague, Ross Kolodziej, John Favret. Wendell Bryant was a freshman backup.
I think maybe there was an early 90s group that might've been near there, but wasn't around for it and too lazy to research. The 2006 group of Matt Shaughnessy, Nick Hayden, Mike Newkirk, Jason Chapman, Joe Monty, Jamal Cooper was a cut below, but quite good.
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Was Wendell Bryant better than Erasmus James? I think they were both great, but they're sort of blurred together in my mind.
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I’ll go with ‘88. Mike Fox, Jim Gray, Chris Parker, Renaldo Turnbull.
The one this year anchored by The Stills Brothers is actually very good too.
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UW options off the top of my head (since it's been 3-4 since 2013, basically none of those are in the mix)
2009 - JJ Watt and O'Brien Schofield on the outside was just silly. Butrum, Moore, and Stehle weren't bonkers good, but were plenty solid.
2004 - That defense was built on a monster D-line, though the back end was super as well. Anttaj Hawthorne, Erasmus James, Jason Jefferson and Jonathan Welsh. Had a couple OK backups.
1998 - Tom Burke was the star with Jake Sprague, Ross Kolodziej, John Favret. Wendell Bryant was a freshman backup.
I think maybe there was an early 90s group that might've been near there, but wasn't around for it and too lazy to research. The 2006 group of Matt Shaughnessy, Nick Hayden, Mike Newkirk, Jason Chapman, Joe Monty, Jamal Cooper was a cut below, but quite good.
1993 was Shakerford, Fowler and Thompson. Very solid for sure.
Right now: Benton, Williams, Lowdermilk, Rand, Henningsen - could be special. So far, they have been.
2017 with James, Sags and Sheehy was really good too.
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Was Wendell Bryant better than Erasmus James? I think they were both great, but they're sort of blurred together in my mind.
Hard to say which was better. Both were really good. I guess I'd go with James.
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For OSU...
My mind immediately goes to 1996. I don't know that they were the best, but Matt Funkes, Winfield Garnett, Luke Fickell, and Mike Vrabel is maybe the first defense line that I remember. Certainly not a bad lineup as far as coaching goes.
2017 is pretty danged talented. Chase Young and Nick Bosa are in the 2 deep, along with Sam Hubbard, Dremont Jones, and Tyquan Lewis. I don't remember that line being so great, though.
2002 was maybe the best defense I've seen at OSU, but aside from Will Smith not a ton of star power.
While the 2002 line did not have a lot of "star" power, they were VERY good. Tim Anderson was a rock at nose guard. Quinn Pitcock and Kenny Peterson were solid. Howver, the DE's were really the stars and moved down into tackle positions occasionally. Simon Fraser, Mike Kudla, Jay Richardson, Darrion Scott and as you mentioned, Will Smith.
While they didn't have the star power, they dominated every game they played allowing the back 7 to make plays all over the field. And they had too with the offense that struggled all year to put a lot of distance between themselves and their opponents. That was a special group.
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1992
2009
2016
the 2011 d might be better overall than any of them, but the dline wasn't where the star talent was.
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1968:
Amongst the headliners were a pair of All-Americans, defensive tackle Bill Stanfill and safety/returner Jake Scott, who would both go on to iconic All-Pro careers in Miami.
Steve Greer would be named All-American in 1969, Russell calling him “the toughest player he ever coached”. Stanfill, Greer, Terry Osbolt and Lee Daniel formed the middle of the line in the old “Wide Tackle Six.” The ends were the best in the conference – David McKnight and, before rising to fame for the Atlanta Olympics and as Chairman of The Augusta National Golf Club, Billy Payne.
All-SEC linebacker and longtime team physician Happy Dicks had suffered an injury and looked doubtful for the Bulldogs thrilling 21-20 win at South Carolina, which led to the greatest headline in sports history from the superbly talented mind and pen of the inimitable Lewis Grizzard. “Dogs To Play Cocks With Dicks Out.”
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might have to go back to 1970 for the Huskers
1984?
1993, 94, 95?
I'll have to do some research
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For Purdue...
2005 was pretty good. Had Ray Edwards and Rob Ninkovich at DE, with Anthony Spencer as a RS Soph to spell them, along with Brandon Villareal at DT. I don't remember the 2nd DT though, despite looking at the roster, so maybe there was a weak spot there.
2010 probably has to be the top one, though... Ryan Kerrigan (DE), Kawann Short (DT), Bruce Gaston (DT), and Gerald Gooden (DE) were the front four. All except Gooden saw some time on Sundays, with both Kerrigan and Short having long careers in the league. Kerrigan was an absolute terror that year, Short was still younger but very good, Gaston was a freshman but big and strong enough to play day 1, and Gooden certainly got the job done with all the attention being spent on Kerrigan and Short.
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1992
2009
2016
the 2011 d might be better overall than any of them, but the dline wasn't where the star talent was.
Right, that 2011 pass D is perhaps the best ever, anywhere.
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might have to go back to 1970 for the Huskers
1984?
1993, 94, 95?
I'll have to do some research
How much, if any, do you differentiate between the Peter brothers?
Looking at things so far, it really is hard to get 4 very good-or-better defensive linemen on any one team in any one season.
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not much
they were pretty similar production wise
older Bro Peter was nastier and more vocal
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70-71 Glover, Jacobson, and Webster. That's pretty nasty.
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What was each team's worst defensive line?
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yikes
who wants to go there?
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70-71 Glover, Jacobson, and Webster. That's pretty nasty.
Glover has had staying power and is still known far outside of Nebraska circles. I didn't know Jacobson existed until researching teams for Whoa Nellie, and he probably had a better college career. Maybe it was Glover's being smaller and using quickness that made him unique and more famous, idk.
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What was each team's worst defensive line?
'95 CU, KU, OU, KSU, OKST, WSU, MSU,...
'74 NU, OKST, CU, KU, MIZ, ISU,...
'45 Navy, ND, WF, UM, Penn, Duke,...
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'95 CU, KU, OU, KSU, OKST, WSU, MSU,...
'74 NU, OKST, CU, KU, MIZ, ISU,...
'45 Navy, ND, WF, UM, Penn, Duke,...
What, do you research all these random teams in your spare time? I hope you're operating a simulation game or something. ;)
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What, do you research all these random teams in your spare time? I hope you're operating a simulation game or something. ;)
I was doing it enough in my leisure time to figure monetizing it wouldn't be a bad idea.
For the home audience, those teams listed, were of course, opponents of......'95 Nebraska, '74 OU, and '45 Army.