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The Power Five => SEC => Tennessee => Topic started by: gymvol on November 18, 2020, 10:26:44 AM
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Well it isn't hard to do if your Phillip Fulmer he should have quit when he was on top like his wife suggested instead he continues to go from bad to worse.
First he stabs his mentor Johnny Majors in the back in order to steal his job pissing off half of Vol Nation. Then he retires in place resting on his laurels letting the football program descend into mediocrity.
After years of inept coaching hires at UT he does it again working behind the scenes to oust the current AD to steal his job pissing off more of the Vol Nation who didn't want to rehire the man they fired knowing he was clueless about how todays game is played.
After being hired as AD he makes one of the most ridiculous coaching hires ever by hiring a BAMA alum without any HC experience. He rewards the less than mediocre coaching with a contract extension pissing off more of the Vol Nation.
He then has the gall to take a contract extension for the shitty job he has done by giving us a less than mediocre BAMA alum HC probably pissing off the rest of Vol Nation if there was any left that wasn't already pissed off at him.
That my friends is how to become the most disliked man in the state of Tennessee. :72:
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Tennessee Vols AD Phillip Fulmer quietly received a contract extension in May. Here are the details.
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2020/11/18/tennessee-vols-phillip-fulmer-contract-extension-buyout-salary-ut-ad/6317991002/
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2 of Fulmers 5 best games were the 92 UGA and UF games when he filled in for Majors ...... had we got that Fulmer for a decade and a half I would’ve been fine with the backstabbing. Instead Fulmer decided to be Spurriers beotch and we squandered many a talented teams
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I can sympathize with a lot of the criticism of Coach Fulmer, but I don't see how any Tennessee fan can't love the guy.
In the past month we've seen the program lapse into a familiar cycle, where the entitled, delusional sore losers create an environment so toxic that a coaching change may now be inevitable.
I'd like to see him stay and succeed (and I define success differently from those fools who think the 90's are just a good coach away), but I'm afraid Pruitt is going to start suffering recruiting defeats that will derail his efforts to revive the program (as if it wasn't hard enough to recruit there already).
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I can sympathize with a lot of the criticism of Coach Fulmer, but I don't see how any Tennessee fan can't love the guy.
In the past month we've seen the program lapse into a familiar cycle, where the entitled, delusional sore losers create an environment so toxic that a coaching change may now be inevitable.
I'd like to see him stay and succeed (and I define success differently from those fools who think the 90's are just a good coach away), but I'm afraid Pruitt is going to start suffering recruiting defeats that will derail his efforts to revive the program (as if it wasn't hard enough to recruit there already).
So hard to recruit at Tennessee that even the dumbest of our head coaches land in the Top 15 annually.
Recruiting isn't the problem. That's one thing I am certain of.
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So hard to recruit at Tennessee that even the dumbest of our head coaches land in the Top 15 annually.
Recruiting isn't the problem. That's one thing I am certain of.
Top 15 annually isn't near good enough for the types of fans that are calling for Pruitt's head right now, unfortunately.
There's not much difference between being ranked #12 and ranked #20 in recruiting - their classes are dominated by 3* recruits and you're going to get hammered by the elite programs whose classes are dominated by 4*'s with plenty of 5*'s. The only aberrations to that will be when we have an NFL quarterback (that must be recruited).
Georgia's roster has over double the number of future NFL draftees than Tennessee's this year, and the same will be true in 10 years. The sooner the Vol Nation comes to grips with that, the better. And if that's NOT recruiting, then what is it?
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Top 15 annually isn't near good enough for the types of fans that are calling for Pruitt's head right now, unfortunately.
There's not much difference between being ranked #12 and ranked #20 in recruiting - their classes are dominated by 3* recruits and you're going to get hammered by the elite programs whose classes are dominated by 4*'s with plenty of 5*'s. The only aberrations to that will be when we have an NFL quarterback (that must be recruited).
Georgia's roster has over double the number of future NFL draftees than Tennessee's this year, and the same will be true in 10 years. The sooner the Vol Nation comes to grips with that, the better. And if that's NOT recruiting, then what is it?
Georgia has a huge advantage in recruiting. I don't think anyone disputes that. They've been under achieving for years. Recently, under Kirby, they are living up to their billing.
No one would be calling for Pruitt's head if his results aligned with this recruiting. Not sure why that is difficult to understand? In he Top 15-20 in the nation …. no calls for a firing. The shit being played out on the field.....ummm WTF is that?
Top 10-15 classes, and staring down the barrel of 3-7 or 2-8. A non functional QB, and non functional offense, and a team that throws in the towel at the first sign of adversity. Curb stomped at home by Kentucky, a far less talented team. Shutout in the 2nd half against ARKY, a team that before this year, with a 1st year / 1st time head coach, had lost 20 straight SEC games.
The problem is coaching, or communication, or both. And Pruitt seems to have a less than room temperature IQ for either.
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First he stabs his mentor Johnny Majors in the back in order to steal his job pissing off half of Vol Nation. Then he retires in place resting on his laurels letting the football program descend into mediocrity.
Johnny cut his own throat.
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No one would be calling for Pruitt's head if his results aligned with this recruiting. Not sure why that is difficult to understand? In he Top 15-20 in the nation …. no calls for a firing. The shit being played out on the field.....ummm WTF is that?
Fair points - I understand your position. Where we differ is that I'm inclined to grant a coach a (seasonal) mulligan if I'm under the impression that things are moving in the right direction and he has the respect of the players. There's so much parity out there among the non-elites and and Tennessee has had such bad luck at quarterback (has there ever been a quarterback take so many snaps and improve so little in the history of college football?).
Top 10-15 classes, and staring down the barrel of 3-7 or 2-8. A non functional QB, and non functional offense, and a team that throws in the towel at the first sign of adversity. Curb stomped at home by Kentucky, a far less talented team. Shutout in the 2nd half against ARKY, a team that before this year, with a 1st year / 1st time head coach, had lost 20 straight SEC games.
If no Felipe Franks, we win that game by 17 points. Pittman has been gracious enough to admit that Franks "gave them an opportunity to have a program this year."
The problem is coaching, or communication, or both. And Pruitt seems to have a less than room temperature IQ for either.
People don't want to face it, but as with life, most of it is luck.
A program destined to recruit between #7 and #18 in the country is going to have its ups and downs, and there are going to have to be some mulligans granted along the way, depending in large part on who gets lucky at quarterback.
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Recruiting starts with coaching just look at Texas they've fallen on hard times with more top recruits in state than anywhere else in the country.
You can shake a tree in Texas and more 5 star recruits fall out than in the entire state of Tennessee.
But Texas is not getting them or not developing what they get just as Tennessee hasn't been doing either one for a long time.
Even when Fulmer was here he recruited well but didn't have good assistant coaches to develop it and wouldn't fire them. He lives in the world of where mediocrity is rewarded and ran off the best assistant he had in Randy Sanders.
It's coaching along with hiring the best assistants and Bum Phillips said it best.
Bryant can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n. (https://247sports.com/Coach/3616/Quotes/Bryant-can-take-hisn-and-beat-yourn-and-then-he-can-turn-around--35946152/) ~ On Bear Bryant
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Recruiting starts with coaching just look at Texas they've fallen on hard times with more top recruits in state than anywhere else in the country.
Having a strong proximate recruiting base doesn't guarantee success, but not having one all-but guarantee's mediocrity.
Even when Fulmer was here he recruited well but didn't have good assistant coaches to develop it and wouldn't fire them.
Most say that about Majors. In fact, many of Fulmer's detractors attribute his success to having and keeping good assistants.
He lives in the world of where mediocrity is rewarded and ran off the best assistant he had in Randy Sanders.
Somebody forgot to tell that to a man named Cutcliffe.
Bryant can take his'n and beat your'n, and then he can turn around and take your'n and beat his'n. (https://247sports.com/Coach/3616/Quotes/Bryant-can-take-hisn-and-beat-yourn-and-then-he-can-turn-around--35946152/)
Bryant couldn't carry Robert Neyland's jock strap.
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No one would be calling for Pruitt's head if his results aligned with this recruiting. Not sure why that is difficult to understand? In he Top 15-20 in the nation …. no calls for a firing. The shit being played out on the field.....ummm WTF is that?
Fair points - I understand your position. Where we differ is that I'm inclined to grant a coach a (seasonal) mulligan if I'm under the impression that things are moving in the right direction and he has the respect of the players. There's so much parity out there among the non-elites and and Tennessee has had such bad luck at quarterback (has there ever been a quarterback take so many snaps and improve so little in the history of college football?).
There are no mulligans in year 3, especially in these new times. And, coming off an 8 game win streak to boot ….. signifies, something is amiss. Furthermore, what kind of idiot continues to trot the (has there ever been a quarterback take so many snaps and improve so little in the history of college football?) on the field? If no one is better, and hasn't been developed to be better than JG, who's fault is that? Pruitt's, period.
Top 10-15 classes, and staring down the barrel of 3-7 or 2-8. A non functional QB, and non functional offense, and a team that throws in the towel at the first sign of adversity. Curb stomped at home by Kentucky, a far less talented team. Shutout in the 2nd half against ARKY, a team that before this year, with a 1st year / 1st time head coach, had lost 20 straight SEC games.
If no Felipe Franks, we win that game by 17 points. Pittman has been gracious enough to admit that Franks "gave them an opportunity to have a program this year."
Felipe Franks,the Gator reject, who was only a 1 second on the clock hail mary better than JG, who also went 4-8 in 2017? Uh-huh. Pittman is the difference in that team, not Franks. They play inspired football with a confidence that they shouldn't have, both sides of the ball, with almost zero talent on the field. That is inspired coaching. They are playing significantly up, and the Vols are playing significantly down.
The problem is coaching, or communication, or both. And Pruitt seems to have a less than room temperature IQ for either.
People don't want to face it, but as with life, most of it is luck.
No, it's not. Liberal fantasies again. Hard work makes good luck.
A program destined to recruit between #7 and #18 in the country is going to have its ups and downs, and there are going to have to be some mulligans granted along the way, depending in large part on who gets lucky at quarterback.
Where are the ups? 2015 and 2016 were small blips. Plenty of downs to go around the last 15 years. Mulligans are given in year 1 and 2 of every new failed coach we hire....that's all you get. Lucky at QB, huh? Some would say UT is lucky having a 5th year senior starting QB with 30 games under his belt. Doh! And funny enough, the same teams get lucky at QB every year. (hint: the ones with good coaches) Amazing.
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For everyone's viewing pleasure.
Championship Level coaches record in year 3:
Saban - 14-0
Fulmer - 11-1
Miles- 12-2
Meyer - 9-4 after going 13-1 in year 2
Stoops - 11-2
Carroll - 12-1
Lou Holtz - 12-0
Jimbo Fisher - 12-2
Vince Dooley 10-1
Danny Ford 12-0 NC
Jimmy Johnson 11-1
Howard Schnellenberger 9-2
Barry Switzer 11-1 NC
Tom Osborne 10-2
Joe Paterno 11-0
Dennis Erickson 12-0 NC
Gene Stallings 13-0 NC
Pete Carroll 12-1 NC
Jim Tressel 11-2 (NC yr 2)
Larry Coker 11-2 (NC yr 1)
Mack Brown 9-3
Bob Stoops 11-2 (NC yr 2)
Lloyd Carr 12-0 NC
Don James 8-4 (won PAC and Rose Bowl)
Gene Chizik 8-5 (NC yr 2)
Lavell Edwards 7-4-1
Bobby Ross 7-4
Bill McCartney 1-10
Dabo Swinney 6-7
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(https://www.volnation.com/forum/attachments/1605636609779-png.323574/)
- Our pass efficiency rating (PER) on 1st down ranks 24th nationally, while we're 111th on 2nd down and 109th on 3rd down.
- On 3rd-down runs, we're averaging under 1 yard per carry (114th nationally). Combined with our passing futility on 3rd down, it's easy to see why we're 119th in 3rd-down conversion efficiency.
- Of our 14 offensive TDs, 11 were scored on 1st down (1 TD every 16 plays). On all other downs, we've scored 1 TD every 77 plays.
- Not shown above but Tennessee has had just 1 play from scrimmage go for 40+ yards, fewer than any other SEC team. Sans UT, the conference average is 7 plays of 40+ yards
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There are no mulligans in year 3, especially in these new times.
These new times are all about parity except for the handful of elite programs. Those are the kind of unrealistic expectations that are going to doom the program to persistent underachievement. At Tennessee, if you want coaches to be around for 4 years or more, you're going to have to get used to mulligans every 3-4 years.
And, coming off an 8 game win streak to boot ….. signifies, something is amiss.
The quarterback position.
If no one is better, and hasn't been developed to be better than JG, who's fault is that? Pruitt's, period.
If Guarantano hadn't been playing like he was shaving points against Kentucky then we win that game. And I can't even remember what happened in the collapse against Arkansas, but we won the first half. We were completely outclasses by Bama and Georgia obviously.
Felipe Franks,the Gator reject, who was only a 1 second on the clock hail mary better than JG, who also went 4-8 in 2017? Uh-huh. Pittman is the difference in that team, not Franks.
Franks improved like Guarantano should have. Franks gives the team confidence they can compete with anybody.
They play inspired football with a confidence that they shouldn't have, both sides of the ball, with almost zero talent on the field. That is inspired coaching.
Pittman agrees with me. Watch what happens to Arkansas when Franks leaves if they don't have an NFL quarterback in the wings.
They are playing significantly up, and the Vols are playing significantly down.
Guarantano was the first problem, but he's been replaced by fan base toxicity.
Mulligans are given in year 1 and 2 of every new failed coach we hire....that's all you get.
You're in for a lifetime of frustration as a fan of Tennessee football.
Lucky at QB, huh?
Yes.
Some would say UT is lucky having a 5th year senior starting QB with 30 games under his belt.
Yes, until they saw him perform.
And funny enough, the same teams get lucky at QB every year. (hint: the ones with good coaches)
It's the top programs, not the mid-tier programs like us. Occasionally you'll get a Drew Lock at a Missouri, but usually the elite guys want to play at elite programs with other elite players. There's no reason to expect us to ever get there. No elite coach would ever come to Tennessee. Urban Meyer would laugh in our face. Dabo Sweeney wasn't "elite" until he lucked into a couple elite quarterbacks and he was given a few years to pull that off.
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Meyer - 9-4 after going 13-1 in year 2
Dabo Swinney 6-7
Mulligan.
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Mulligan.
Yeah, not really, that was his second full season, after an interim takeover in a partial year one.
His legit 3rd year = 10-4. No mulligan.
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Yeah, not really, that was his second full season, after an interim takeover in a partial year one.
His legit 3rd year = 10-4. No mulligan.
I guess if your last name was Mulligan, you probably couldn't go into coaching (or play golf).
I feel like Pruitt's agent arguing with the President at UTK - doing my best to save his job. Steven A Smith and ESPN have convinced the sporting world real men know that championships are all that matters. I don't think those kinds of fans are good for college football and will put it on my calendar to have this same argument with you in 4 years.
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I guess if your last name was Mulligan, you probably couldn't go into coaching (or play golf).
I feel like Pruitt's agent arguing with the President at UTK - doing my best to save his job. Steven A Smith and ESPN have convinced the sporting world real men know that championships are all that matters. I don't think those kinds of fans are good for college football and will put it on my calendar to have this same argument with you in 4 years.
Championships? LOL ….. hyperbole, fuzzard?
Competing with UK and Arky would suffice. Maybe pulling up 3rd in the East.
It's OK to not ignore what you are seeing. It's not a mirage. It's really is a steaming pile of manure, not a chocolate fondue fountain.
He's not getting fired, so no need to save his job. Fulmer extended the failure for a few more years.
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Johnny cut his own throat.
True....but "rivisionist history" is so entertaining for those that enjoy pure fiction
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Posters critical of hiring Pruitt have an extremely short memory of the situation Fulmer stepped into.
The coaching job had been turned down by practically every coach in college football. The hiring process had become the laughing stock of the nation when Fulmer was named AD.
I recall many of the critics accusing Fulmer of being incompetant for not going after Leach.
How's he working out at Ms State?
Trying to recall who else was the flavor of the week or who Fumer SHOULD have hired.There's always a flavor of the week after any coach wins a big game.
Freeze who was fired for hiring prostitutes and getting Ole Ms on probation ( almosty the death penalty) seems to be the flavor this week since he beat the Sisters of The Blind last week....my bad, it was Western Carolina.
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Posters critical of hiring Pruitt have an extremely short memory of the situation Fulmer stepped into.
The coaching job had been turned down by practically every coach in college football. The hiring process had become the laughing stock of the nation when Fulmer was named AD.
I recall many of the critics accusing Fulmer of being incompetant for not going after Leach.
How's he working out at Ms State?
Trying to recall who else was the flavor of the week or who Fumer SHOULD have hired.There's always a flavor of the week after any coach wins a big game.
Freeze who was fired for hiring prostitutes and getting Ole Ms on probation ( almosty the death penalty) seems to be the flavor this week since he beat the Sisters of The Blind last week....my bad, it was Western Carolina.
Yeah, Western Carolina, that’s why Freeze is popular. 🙄
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Trying to recall who else was the flavor of the week or who Fumer SHOULD have hired.There's always a flavor of the week after any coach wins a big game.
I was in the Jeff Brohm camp - not sure how that's looking these days. I'm happy with Pruitt and am giving him a mulligan for this year since his 5th year quarterback is a head-case.
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I was in the Jeff Brohm camp - not sure how that's looking these days. I'm happy with Pruitt and am giving him a mulligan for this year since his 5th year quarterback is a head-case.
I keep looking to how the virus has affected every team different.
IMO, there is also a problem(s) on the team, besides the head case. If it is what I suspect it can not get addressed until after the season.
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Competing with UK and Arky would suffice. Maybe pulling up 3rd in the East.
But for how long? There's a significant percentage of the fan base that's not going to be satisfied with being 3rd in the East (tied for 6th in the conference). Maybe you're one of them.
It's OK to not ignore what you are seeing. It's not a mirage. It's really is a steaming pile of manure, not a chocolate fondue fountain.
A quarterback here, a couple of turnovers there, a busted coverage here, a bad penalty there. Mere twists of fate.
Fulmer extended the failure for a few more years.
I haven't given up on him yet. Looking forward to Saturday night and building a roaring fire on my back patio, popping a Yazoo Gerst, setting a rug out for my dog and watching Harrison Bailey lead us to victory against the War Eagles.
(yes Cincy, I know that's not their real name)
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Can’t wait to use this in the next “Trump is a scoundrel” thread you start.
A quarterback here, a couple of turnovers there, a busted coverage here, a bad penalty there. Mere twists of fate.
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Johnny cut his own throat.
Wrong again Fulmer was courting big money donors to get the job when Majors had his heart attack as he still does today and did so to get Currie fired to get the AD job.
But It really doesn't matter what Jonny did or did not do no one with any integrity stabs a friend or anyone else in the back for any reason. If you can't do it on your on merit you don't deserve it.
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I was in the Jeff Brohm camp - not sure how that's looking these days. I'm happy with Pruitt and am giving him a mulligan for this year since his 5th year quarterback is a head-case.
You would be you have a history of being on the wrong side with losers.
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Wrong again Fulmer was courting big money donors to get the job when Majors had his heart attack as he still does today and did so to get Curries fired to get the AD job.
But It really doesn't matter what Jonny did or did not do no one with any integrity stabs a friend or anyone else in the back for any reason. If you can't do it on your on merit you don't deserve it.
Johnny came out of the hospital and went to a gathering, drunk on his ass (as was normal for him at the time) and demanded more money.
Many people were damned tired of his problem and demands. That got him canned.
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I was in the Jeff Brohm camp - not sure how that's looking these days. I'm happy with Pruitt and am giving him a mulligan for this year since his 5th year quarterback is a head-case.
He's got Purdue trending up. Good coach. It's tough to win at Purdue.
Were you guys on board with Schiano?
He's making Rutgers look like an actual football team again. He won't win big there, but at least they have a pulse now.
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He's got Purdue trending up. Good coach. It's tough to win at Purdue.
Were you guys on board with Schiano?
He's making Rutgers look like an actual football team again. He won't win big there, but at least they have a pulse now.
No to many ties to the Penn State fiasco
I wish I could cheer some for Penn St. now that I live here, but they still have a scoundrel for a coach (do some research on his actions with Rape allegations at Vandy).
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He's got Purdue trending up. Good coach. It's tough to win at Purdue.
Were you guys on board with Schiano?
He's making Rutgers look like an actual football team again. He won't win big there, but at least they have a pulse now.
I wasn't on board with Schiano, but I wasn't up-in-arms like the mob of fans who got him immediately rejected when it was announced. I thought trying to tar him with the Penn St scandal was unfair, but I didn't see him as a good (cultural) fit in Knoxville.
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He's got Purdue trending up. Good coach. It's tough to win at Purdue.
Were you guys on board with Schiano?
He's making Rutgers look like an actual football team again. He won't win big there, but at least they have a pulse now.
I watched Wisconsin last Saturday the have a good team and an excellent quarterback.
Even if we had your QB our Tater Head coach wouldn't let him play.
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Can’t wait to use this in the next “Trump is a scoundrel” thread you start.
A quarterback here, a couple of turnovers there, a busted coverage here, a bad penalty there. Mere twists of fate.
A conspiracy theory here, a denial there, a QPQ here, a lie there, a fraud here. Mere twists of fate.
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I wasn't on board with Schiano, but I wasn't up-in-arms like the mob of fans who got him immediately rejected when it was announced. I thought trying to tar him with the Penn St scandal was unfair, but I didn't see him as a good (cultural) fit in Knoxville.
Anything would have been would have been better than a BAMA alum.
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I’m a TB Bucs fan and Schiano was awful there. Had Schiano been like our 4th or 5th choice I would’ve been more accepting but considering he was THE GUY Currie had in mind all along was just totally unacceptable. Hindsight’s always 50/50 but yes he at least gives your team a competitive advantage when he’s on the sidelines compared to the useless lump we have at present.
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Many of you must have gone thru hell for almost an entire year without anything to bitch and whine about. An 8 game winning streak must have been unbrearable to the critics.
At least that past year gave time to think up some really neat junior high names to call our coach.
Potential recruits must love them.
Again...there are fans and there are critics and the critics are never happy unless they have something to bitch about.
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Many of you must have gone thru hell for almost an entire year without anything to bitch and whine about. An 8 game winning streak must have been unbrearable to the critics.
At least that past year gave time to think up some really neat junior high names to call our coach.
Potential recruits must love them.
Again...there are fans and there are critics and the critics are never happy unless they have something to bitch about.
Of course the 8 game winning streak was against a buncha tomato cans and now we can’t even beat them, play a team with a resting heart rate and those are 30 pt blowouts ........ glad you enjoy it though and to each his own
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Is that the best you got?
If it's so easy why doesn't every team do that with easier schedules?
When UT reached 8 games it was the longest unbeaten streak in the NCAA.
There are fans and there are critics. The Critics can even manage to whine about an 8 game winning streak.
Life must be miserable for a critic
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Eight game win streaks don't mean squat when you start your year getting beat by Ga. State and BYU then get mauled when you play with the big dogs.
New year same song different verse.
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As I posted....having to wait almost an entire year to start bitching and moaning about Pruit/JG/ Fulmer must have been excruciating.
Trying to keep score here...you want to fire Pruitt, and Fulmer and run JG off now?
Do you want to fire Barnes yet or do you want to wait until he loses a game? We play the #1 team in the nation the second week of bb season so your odds are that you won't have to wait long.
Why not go all in and fire Randy Boyd also...might as well make a clean sweep and fire the UT president . To kill a snake you cut off the head.....Just a suggestion.
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Roadie your liberalism is showing you're like the leftists democrats who refuse to admit what's wrong with their agenda and their party. You wear those orange colored glasses refusing to see what's really going on/
I've watched this shit show go far to long now we have an old coach as AD who was fired for being incompetent but someone or a bunch of someone's pulled the strings so he could come back and be incompetent again.
So yes I would fire Fulmer for the decision he's made to hire Pruitt which shows again he is out of his element then I would fire Pruitt along with his entire staff.
Then tell the donors who were behind bringing Fulmer back to pony up the cash for their mistake or be banned.
Unlike you real Tennessee fans are tired of our football program being a laughing stock of not only the SEC but the entire country.
So man up and put on your big boy britches there's a real world out here.
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Bill O'Brien is out there.
Lots of for NFL coaches have done very well in their college returns.
He did a great job at PSU, bring the program back from the NCAA penalties.
I bet they would like to have him back now - the luster is coming off of Franklin, who I do not like at all.
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Roadie your liberalism is showing you're like the leftists democrats who refuse to admit what's wrong with their agenda and their party. You wear those orange colored glasses refusing to see what's really going on/
I've watched this shit show go far to long now we have an old coach as AD who was fired for being incompetent but someone or a bunch of someone's pulled the strings so he could come back and be incompetent again.
So yes I would fire Fulmer for the decision he's made to hire Pruitt which shows again he is out of his element then I would fire Pruitt along with his entire staff.
Then tell the donors who were behind bringing Fulmer back to pony up the cash for their mistake or be banned.
Unlike you real Tennessee fans are tired of our football program being a laughing stock of not only the SEC but the entire country.
So man up and put on your big boy britches there's a real world out here.
I dont want to fire Fulmer or Pruitt so that makes me a liberal?
I guess that's about as sensible as the rest of your posts on this thread
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Bill O'Brien is out there.
Lots of for NFL coaches have done very well in their college returns.
He did a great job at PSU, bring the program back from the NCAA penalties.
I bet they would like to have him back now - the luster is coming off of Franklin, who I do not like at all.
Besides Franklin being a 1st class asshole, and that is being kind, I did not like how he handled the rape allegations at Vandy.
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Besides Franklin being a 1st class asshole, and that is being kind, I did not like how he handled the rape allegations at Vandy.
Agreed.
No baggage with O'Brien though.
I bet Michigan takes a long look at him. They are not happy either.
Lots of blue bloods in the dumper right now.
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Agreed.
No baggage with O'Brien though.
I bet Michigan takes a long look at him. They are not happy either.
Lots of blue bloods in the dumper right now.
I find it hard to judge any coach/team this year as the virus has effected every team differently.
Additionally at that age the uncertainty of the virus and what all the political atmosphere has brought on effects their mental attitude and this is something new for the coaches as well.
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This thing is affecting all of us, in a harming way. It sucks.
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This thing is affecting all of us, in a harming way. It sucks.
Yes and it affects us differently day to day.
I had to take my wife for a MRI last night in Wilkes Barre (delayed due to COVIS and they are doing them 24 hrs a day trying to catch up in a hospital that is understaffed due to COVID). Every restaurant, & bar along the way both going and coming was packed (note it is to cold now to have much outdoor dining). The stores reminded me of Christmas shopping. No we did not go in just looking at the parking lots.
Seeing that I am not surprised we are surpassing our case load per a day from this spat spring. It tells me it is only going to get worse for many reasons. No I do not believe in a lock down but in what limited shopping we have done, a lot of people are not doing simple things to help.
It is sad to in the way it affects families, I know how it is affecting ours and some friends and all I can do is pray for the Lord to have mercy and get that vaccine out ASAP
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Besides Franklin being a 1st class asshole, and that is being kind, I did not like how he handled the rape allegations at Vandy.
Franklin lied his ass off and everyone knew he was lying neither the media, the university or the police followed up.
The players got punished as they should never heard the final outcome but Franklin escaped punishment.
I would like to know what kind of settlement the girl got from Vandy and whether him not getting prosecuted was part of it.
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Agreed.
No baggage with O'Brien though.
I bet Michigan takes a long look at him. They are not happy either.
Lots of blue bloods in the dumper right now.
You can bet unlike UT they will be making a pitch for a big time college coach. It wouldn't surprise me if they made a pitch for Saban but Harbaugh not beating Ohio St they're gonna spend the money to get it done.
If they're really desperate we can let them have Pruitt for a bargain price. Matter of fact we'll throw in some money to help out. :victory:
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Franklin lied his ass off and everyone knew he was lying neither the media, the university or the police followed up.
The players got punished as they should never heard the final outcome but Franklin escaped punishment.
I would like to know what kind of settlement the girl got from Vandy and whether him not getting prosecuted was part of it.
I wondered at the time if this did not cost him a better SEC job
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Harrison Bailey just proved tonight at Auburn that he should have been playing all year. People can say that Auburn was playing prevent D and that they had their backups in the game all they want, but Bailey stood in the pocket, read the defense and threw on target. He had so few reps in the previous game mostly handing the ball off that we couldn't even judge him accurately. Pruitt has been too stubborn with his insistence on playing Guarantano all year. I said after UT's loss against Kentucky that this year should be utilized by playing Bailey so he's ready for next year and forget the record. How much further would the Vols be now? They will still go no better than 3 wins as it is. In fact, there was a very good chance UT wins the game at Auburn if Pruitt had started Bailey since the Vols won every statistical category but the score and that is on two people: Guarantano throwing a pick six in the redzone making that a 14 point swing and Cimaglia missing two field goals, one of which was a straight on 37 yarder. As idiotic as Pruitt has been with his insistence on JG being the better practice player, even he will cut his own throat if he starts JG next game.