James already had one knee repaired .Don't know where he goes in the draft but I can't blame him for bailing.His Head Coach didevery reputable mock draft I've seen have him solidly in the top 15, some even in the top 5. He's a 1st round pick period. He should skip the bowl, he's already had one knee repaired like you said.
Suspended and oft-troubled yet talented WR Antonio Callaway has hired an agent. I guess he's hoping someone will take a flyer on him in the last round?I'd absolutely take a flyer on Callaway.
His agent is former Miami RB Melvin Bratton. Who better, than one of the ring-leaders of the bad-boy late 80s Canes teams to rep for him. Ick.
I'd absolutely take a flyer on Callaway.should have went to the CFL.
More troubled and barely having played DT Craig Evans may also declare.
He flipped from UW to MSU, got himself suspended Freshman year and redshirted. Was very good as a RS frosh. Failed a drug test prior to the CFP, and was suspended 6 games by the NCAA. That was the final straw for Dantonio though, and kicked him off the team.
Transferred to Oregon State, but got himself in further academic trouble, and was never eligible to play.
Sounds like he's academically finally ok, but he still hasn't served that 6 game NCAA suspension that was supposed to be the first half of 2016. So he can come back to Oregon State for his 5th year, but sit out the first half. Transfer down to NAIA where the suspension won't carry over. Or declare for the draft, based on one solid year as a reserve in the rotation in 2015.
This is where college football fails kids. There are plenty of kids who have no business in school, but do just enough to get through, or they go to UNC. But this kid, who had NFL talent, will likely never get there because he couldn't navigate a faux minor league system with academic requirements, with no feasible alternative.
James already had one knee repaired .Don't know where he goes in the draft but I can't blame him for bailing.His Head Coach didjames and minkah should be the top 2 s taken, both likely top 15. minkah has slightly better cover skills, while james has more down hill tackling ability. both are more than adequate in the other though. james is one of my favorite non-bama players this year and hate to see his college career end.
if season ended today Browns would have the #1 and #6 picks in the 1st round.Barkley won't be there unless he has a poor combine. I think they take Minkah with the 2nd pick.
I think the ideal scenario there would be for them to take Josh Rosen #1 overall and hope to GOD that Saquan Barkley fell into their lap at #6.
They are the two best NFL prospects in this draft imo.
Barkley won't be there unless he has a poor combine. I think they take Minkah with the 2nd pick.knowing the Browns they'll probably trade both picks back lol.
knowing the Browns they'll probably trade both picks back lol.barkley is one of my favorite cfb players right now and is top rb in draft, but i still wouldn't take a rb in the top 15, especially this year. tons of good rb's coming out.
I think they need to hold firm where they are at and just take the best player available.
The Giants have the #2 pick and they are probably taking Darnold or Rosen, whichever one the Browns don't take. A QB is obviously where they are going.
Colts have the #3 pick, they could go RB and snatch Barkley up, but their biggest need on that team is by far the OL. They've never given Luck a top tier LT or offensive line and that's why he's gotten his brains beaten in every year he's been in the NFL and why he missed this entire year. If they don't take an OL or trade down and take an OL they are crazy.
49ers have the #4 pick and I could definitely see them going after Barkley to pair him up with Jimmy Garoppolo. I think that's his most likely landing spot, but Lynch is a defensive guy and they could go defense at that pick. Wouldn't be shocked at all if they went after a pass rusher and went with Arden Key of LSU or Bradley Chubb from NC State.
Broncos need a QB desperately. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Browns trade back here. Browns trade back to #5 and Broncos trade up to #1, Broncos take Rosen and Browns get another 1st round pick in the next years draft. Might be what is likely to happen, since the Browns have passed on just about every QB worth a 1st round pick the last few years.
the only reason Barkley wouldn't go in the top 10 is because the NFL just doesn't value stud RBs like they used to or shouldthis draft seems to be heavy on good rb's and qb's.
this draft seems to be heavy on good rb's and qb's.Dallas took Zeke with the 4th pick couple years ago, Jags took Fournette with the #4 pick and their QB sucks. Panthers took McCaffrey with the 8th pick. Rams took Gurley-who imo is #3 RB in football right now behind Zeke and Bell- with the 9th pick overall few years back.
20+ years ago, barkley might be #1 overall. right now, though, he's definitely #1 rb, but imo there are so many good rb's i'll take someone at a more valuable position and pick up another really good rb later down the board. jmo. bu if you've got a good oline and dline, and a starting qb and lockdown corner, yes barkley is best option.
Dallas took Zeke with the 4th pick couple years ago, Jags took Fournette with the #4 pick and their QB sucks. Panthers took McCaffrey with the 8th pick. Rams took Gurley-who imo is #3 RB in football right now behind Zeke and Bell- with the 9th pick overall few years back.dallas had a great oline and good d as well, plus thought they had their qb (but ended up with their qb in the draft as well). jags also, surprisingly, had a solid oline and top 5 d before drafting fournette. and drafted their qb (not good one, imo but they liked him) a couple years earlier.
I think teams will take RB's high if they deem the RB to be special enough. The days of picking a RB high just because you need one are over. But if the guy is really, really, really good they'll take him.
I'm thinking 49ers will snatch him up. Jimmy G is looking gooooood man. That team struggled to get first downs with the other QB's. Not exactly like that team has a plethora of weapons around him. Jimmy G has just been making it work. He's QB'ed them to 3 straight wins as the starter and threw for back to back 300 yard games. First time a San Fransisco 49ers QB has thrown for back to back 300 yard games since Jeff Garcia in 2001.
Barkley is just so special in the passing game, and the game has shifted so much to the pass and is geared so much toward the passing game, that a RB who can virtually be another WR like Barkley can- is worth every single penny and then some.
Give Jimmy G a weapon like Barkley, and you might really see that guy take off into the stratosphere. He seems like the first New England back-up to have it all. Hoyer had the mental side and leadership but none of the talent. Mallett had all of the talent but none of the other stuff. Garroppolo seemingly has it all. Can definitely see why New England didn't want to trade him until they were forced too.
Florida's kicker is leaving early apparently....so that's fun.A kicker? Wow... There's gotta be a story there.
should have went to the CFL.That's what Duron Carter finally did.
If I am a kid out of high school like that, who has terrible grades and can't function in the class room, I am going to the CFL. 3-4 years in the CFL and some production and he just might've been drafted or signed as a free agent by a team.
UCLA QB Josh Rosen sitting out the bowl game. Can't say I blame him. He's the probable #1 pick, #2 at worst. Nothing to gain and everything to lose.I blame him. Sitting out the last game because you've got bigger and better plans for the future is the antithesis of being a teammate.
Pretty sad to see how his career went, a kid with his talent should've QB'd a team to some championships. But he's the one who thought it was a good idea to go play for Jim Mora. So...lol.
He chose UCLA, and UCLA is UCLA....so he can't feel surprised.truth.
Jim Mora started strong, going 29–11 through the first 3 seasonsFrank Solich wouldn't have lasted as long in Lincoln as he did if he had started out with that record.
truth.Pete Carroll.
thing is though, think I read/heard some stat that during Jim Mora's 6 year tenure at UCLA, he had more guys drafted to the NFL than any team in the PAC. The guy could obviously recruit well. Never translated into wins, and he got fired.
He's a pretty mediocre coach. Always has been ever since his stint in the NFL where he got fired by the Falcons and the Seahawks. Don't know why UCLA thought it was a good idea to hire him.
Frank Solich wouldn't have lasted as long in Lincoln as he did if he had started out with that record.poor Frankie was following 60-3 the previous 5 seasons
UCLA QB Josh Rosen sitting out the bowl game. Can't say I blame him. He's the probable #1 pick, #2 at worst. Nothing to gain and everything to lose.I agree UCLA emptied the vaults for Chip who left CFB under cloudy circumstances.Many top picks get hurt i.e.Jake Butt for instance.For what an Atta boy.Different if they are in the CFP or Big Bowl.If coaches like Jimbo Fisher can sign an unholy contract why shouldn't the players who get them there at least get that opportunity.Jimbo doesn't approach that coin if he's at say Utah ST or some where comparable.Players however should pay back their Universty Schollie - JMO
Can someone explain why NFL scouts are so high on the guy who leads the entire FBS in turnovers?very good question. Darnold is a bit of a gun slinger. He takes a lot of chances he probably shouldn't it. Lot of NFL coaches probably think "oh I can fix that".
Ohio State CB Denzel Ward and DE Sam Hubbard officially declare for the NFL draft. Not a surprise, everyone saw both coming, but it's official now.Jonathon Cooper too
EDIT: with Hubbard declaring, and Jayln Holmes and Tyquan Lewis graduating, does this leave just Bosa Jr. and the true frosh Chase Young at DE on the entire roster going in 2018?
very good question. Darnold is a bit of a gun slinger. He takes a lot of chances he probably shouldn't it. Lot of NFL coaches probably think "oh I can fix that".Hue Jackson is one of these blithering idiots.Watching Kizer repeating errors continually every week.Then trotting him right back out there on the next series.And he's made enough money to walk away right now and never have to work again.It's maddening
Jonathon Cooper toooh yeah, forgot all about him. He was a high 4* borderline 5*. Was kinda smallish though out of HS, was listed in the 220's. Which meant he was probably really 215. Has he put on the necessary weight?
Hue Jackson is one of these blithering idiots.Watching Kizer repeating errors continually every week.Then trotting him right back out there on the next series.And he's made enough money to walk away right now and never have to work again.It's maddeningfeel bad for Kizer. Kid is ultra talented, just a little bit immature. He wasn't anywhere near ready for the NFL game. Should've been redshirting this year.
Barkley was shut down in multiple games this year, although he has value as a pass-catcher. Is he really that highly thought of?He's considered to be a better prospect than Elliott. Plus if Barkley has something going for him its that he wasn't used all that much. PSU would go quarters forgetting that he's even on the field. Good RBs are underrated. 1st of all in their 2nd contract you don't have to pay them much (Bell will make what 30M? guarenteed and the Steelers even with their talent are trassssshhhhh on O without him). Passing is more difficult in the playoffs when the refs swallow the whistle. You need a running game. Yes you can find a good RB later in the draft but that's true for just about any position (Brady, Brown, Sherman etc).
He had a bad game vs. OSU, okay, that's fine. But IU and Rutgers? Was he hurt?
He's considered to be a better prospect than Elliott. Plus if Barkley has something going for him its that he wasn't used all that much. PSU would go quarters forgetting that he's even on the field. Good RBs are underrated. 1st of all in their 2nd contract you don't have to pay them much (Bell will make what 30M? guarenteed and the Steelers even with their talent are trassssshhhhh on O without him). Passing is more difficult in the playoffs when the refs swallow the whistle. You need a running game. Yes you can find a good RB later in the draft but that's true for just about any position (Brady, Brown, Sherman etc).49ers should absolutely pick Barkley and KEEP Hyde too. That RB duo would be straight up lethal with a QB like Garoppolo. Garoppolo is the real deal. His release is lighting quick, he is an anticipatory thrower and man is he accurate. A QB like that can make the other pieces on offense around him better.
I wouldn't draft a RB top 10 if I didn't have a QB, apparently SF does. High 1st round RBs should be the final piece, not the 1st piece of your offense. Also if they do pick him I would offer a late 2nd or 3rd round pick for Hyde in a sec.
very good question. Darnold is a bit of a gun slinger. He takes a lot of chances he probably shouldn't it. Lot of NFL coaches probably think "oh I can fix that".Just like people in bad relationships.
Iowa CB Josh Jackson declares for the draft. Was a unanimous consensus AA, and a Thorpe finalist.Sounds like C James Daniels is going to declare as well.
Sounds like C James Daniels is going to declare as well.I've read the same regarding the OC class. Might help keep MSU's draft streak in tact with Brian Allen.
Jackson is a no-brainer; Daniels, ehhhhh. He's definitely NFL material, and easily the most athletic C I've seen play at Iowa, but I think he could use another year to clean up his weak spots. However, I guess there's a shallow C class this year, so strike while the iron is hot.
Can someone explain why NFL scouts are so high on the guy who leads the entire FBS in turnovers?Watson had 18INTs his SR year, so I guess you could explain it that way. In Darnold's defense I've seen him make some tremendous throws (and some really bad ones) also USC's OL was terrible and they had zero running game in Sept. If (and yes its a big if) you can clean up the mistakes you should have a good QB.
49ers should absolutely pick Barkley and KEEP Hyde too. That RB duo would be straight up lethal with a QB like Garoppolo. Garoppolo is the real deal. His release is lighting quick, he is an anticipatory thrower and man is he accurate. A QB like that can make the other pieces on offense around him better.Yea they could have a Kamara-Ingram like duo. Only maybe better. Plus Barkley could play the slot and RB (I'm assuming that Hyde can pass block if needed). 49ers still probably a year or 2 away. Instead of going after a ton of FAs it might be wise to give Jimmy G say a 110-120M contract with something like an absurd 40-50M salary this year instead of 20-25+M spread out over 5-6.
49ers have A TON of cap space. They could get real good in a hurry if they pick the right players with their draft picks and sign the right F/A's. Draft Barkley, shore up the OL and get a TE and a WR and watch that offense go KABOOM with Garoppolo pulling the trigger and Kyle Shannahan calling the plays.
Kiper released his first mock today, and I guess the Browns are dumb enough to take the Wyoming QB #1, but I don't see it.I wouldn't like that Hubbard pick either for the Lions. I think he'd be a way better value pick in the 2nd. I think the Lions should go after Mo Hurst, Malik Jefferson, Rashaan Evans, Connor Williams, Billy Price, or Orlando Brown with the 20th pick. I like all those guys a lot better than Hubbard.
He has Lions taking OSU DE Sam Hubbard #1. As of now, I don't like that pick much. IMO he was the third best end of a group that should have been MUCH better than they were.
Kiper is an idiot.yup
Kiper released his first mock today, and I guess the Browns are dumb enough to take the Wyoming QB #1, but I don't see it.Hope not they already have him in Kizer.Browns can't keep whiffing on QB's.Ride out Kizer as he appeared to come around the last game and has a year under his belt at 21.Build up the lines hopefully the Browns new GM has a clue - keep Hue away from the draft board
I wouldn't like that Hubbard pick either for the Lions. I think he'd be a way better value pick in the 2nd. I think the Lions should go after Mo Hurst, Malik Jefferson, Rashaan Evans, Connor Williams, Billy Price, or Orlando Brown with the 20th pick. I like all those guys a lot better than Hubbard.Lions drafting at 20 some of those Price/Hurst won't be there IMO
Anybody who takes Allen in the 1st round is dumb. His completion % is awful. You can only teach accuracy so much. Kiper is an idiot.
Yeah, I saw Allen probably three times this year. The only time he even looked like a draft pick was against CMU in their bowl game.Apparently the Browns are really thinking hard about taking him No.1.
Apparently the Browns are really thinking hard about taking him No.1.and this is why they are the Cleveland Browns lol. Great idea. Pick a QB who completes less than 50% of his passes for his career playing garbage small ball college competition. That'll work out great in the NFL. El Oh El.
PSU guys blowing up at the combine all over the place. I think they may have lost more than we thought, plus the OC that totally changed the trajectory under Franklin. Long term I think this probably helps them, but I think they may take a bigger step back this year than I previously thought.Losing Barkley and Gesicki hurts. but The backup RB, Sanders, is still very good. As far as Apke, he was a good DB, but being fast isn't all there is to it. We still have some good DBs.
and this is why they are the Cleveland Browns lol. Great idea. Pick a QB who completes less than 50% of his passes for his career playing garbage small ball college competition. That'll work out great in the NFL. El Oh El.i don't really trust any of the qb's this year. rosen probably the best, but i don't think he's spectacular. darnold is there as well, but he's got turnoveritis (rosen isn't far behind him there either). and i don't trust allen at all. mayfield i can't get a feel for. feels like a slightly less annoying johnny football. slightly.
Rosen should be the pick but he's apparently told them don't pick me. Maybe they are having second thoughts about Sam Darnold? Darnold has only started like 25 or 26 games and he's had a propensity for turnovers- but so did Andrew Luck and Luck has been pretty damn good when he hasn't gotten his brains beaten in bc of Indy's lack of an adequate OL.
Darnold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Allen. And it's not even remotely close.
I'd take Baker Mayfield before Allen. Way before. I know he's only 5'11 and change but Russell Wilson and Drew Brees are similar sized and they are about as good as it gets at QB in the NFL outside of Brady and Rodgers. Only thing that scares me a little bit about Mayfield are questions about his maturity. Or lack thereof. He's got the arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and play-making ability all at high levels.
Still think Rosen will be the best of the lot. Probably the smartest dude of the bunch and also has the best arm talent.
if i were the browns, i'd trade down with both #1 and #4. pick up a couple of #10-20 picks, plus add a couple of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks as well, and rack up on other players. with the hot qb's on market, someone will trade up i think. as for their qb, take a flyer on one of the free agent qbs. try to get cousins, but if that falls through, bradford, bridgewater, mccarron or someone like that. one that might be good, but won't set you back for another 5 years if you miss either.Heck, the Eagles are looking to move Foles, from what I heard. I'd rather have him than the rookies.
Heck, the Eagles are looking to move Foles, from what I heard. I'd rather have him than the rookies.can't believe for a second that the Eagles would trade Foles. Right now there is no guarantee that Wendt will be ready for the start of next season.
can't believe for a second that the Eagles would trade Foles. Right now there is no guarantee that Wendt will be ready for the start of next season.Yeah, but there's a point at which we all talk about what you do "when your stock is as high as it's going to get".
1. | BROWNS | RB SAQUON BARKLEY, PENN STATE |
2. | Giants | DE Bradley Chubb, NC State |
3. | Jets | QB Sam Darnold, USC |
4. | Browns | FS Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama |
5. | Broncos | G Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame |
6. | COLTS | CB DENZEL WARD, OHIO STATE |
7. | Buccaneers | SS Derwin James, Florida State |
8. | Bears | ILB Roquan Smith, Georgia |
9. | Bills (SF) | QB Josh Rosen, UCLA |
10. | Raiders | ILB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech |
11. | Dolphins | DT Vita Vea, Washington |
12. | 49ers (BUF) | CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville |
13. | Redskins | DT Taven Bryan, Florida |
14. | Browns (GB) | QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville |
15. | Cardinals | QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma |
16. | Ravens | WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama |
17. | CHARGERS | DT MAURICE HURST, MICHIGAN |
18. | Seahawks | RB Derrius Guice, LSU |
19. | Cowboys | OLB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State |
20. | Lions | G Isaiah Wynn, Georgia |
21. | Bengals | G Will Hernandez, UTEP |
22. | Bills | T Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame |
23. | Patriots | DT De'Ron Payne, Alabama |
24. | PANTHERS | CB JOSH JACKSON, IOWA |
25. | Lions (TEN) | DE Marcus Davenport, UTSA |
26. | Falcons | WR Courtland Sutton, SMU |
27. | Saints | DE Harold Landry, Boston College |
28. | Steelers | ILB Rashaan Evans, Alabama |
29. | Jaguars | WR James Washington, Oklahoma State |
30. | Vikings | T Connor Williams, Texas |
31. | Patriots | CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado |
32. | Eagles | RB Ronald Jones II, USC |
I was very confused by your mock until I realized that the Browns had picked up Tyrod Taylor...And I still have them trading up for a third 1st round pick and taking Lamar Jackson. Kind of thinking they'll go with Taylor for the year, so fill a couple other holes, but when Jackson slid down to #14, it was too tempting not to jump up and get a top QB after all. If you have 6 1st round picks over a two year span, that's a hell of a building block for a franchise.
And I still have them trading up for a third 1st round pick and taking Lamar Jackson. Kind of thinking they'll go with Taylor for the year, so fill a couple other holes, but when Jackson slid down to #14, it was too tempting not to jump up and get a top QB after all. If you have 6 1st round picks over a two year span, that's a hell of a building block for a franchise.Tell you what, I'd rather have Lamar Jackson in the middle or late 1st than one of the other QB's early. I think Rosen will be the best of the bunch and he's most ready to plug and play. I question Mayfield's size and maturity, not his game. I think his game translates a lot better to the next level than Johnny Foosballs ever did. Mayfield can really play. It's everything else you question. Whoever takes Josh Allen high is just an idiot buying into hype IMO. Darnold seems to me like Andrew Luck light. Not quite as good and the ceiling isn't quite as high as Luck but he also comes with a little bit of turnover-itis like Luck did.
Yeah, I didn't put Allen in my 1st round, but I'm sure he'll go there.he's a top 5 pick according to all the experts. And it's nuts. He is just not that good at playing QB.
33. | Packers (CLE) | CB Mike Hughes, Central Florida |
34. | Giants | RB Sony Michel, Georgia |
35. | PACKERS (CLE) | WR D.J. MOORE, MARYLAND |
36. | Colts | DE Josh Sweat, Florida State |
37. | Colts | RB Nick Chubb, Georgia |
38. | BUCCANEERS | C JAMES DANIELS, IOWA |
39. | Steelers (CHI) | QB Josh Allen, Wyoming |
40. | BRONCOS | TE MIKE GESICKI, PENN STATE |
41. | Raiders | T Kolton Miller, UCLA |
42. | Dolphins | TE Dallas Goedert, South Dakota State |
43. | Patriots | T Tyrell Crosby, Oregon |
44. | REDSKINS | C BILLY PRICE, OHIO STATE |
45. | Packers | SS Ronnie Harrison, Alabama |
46. | Bengals | FS Justin Reid, Stanford |
47. | Broncos (ARI) | QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State |
48. | Chargers | T Orlando Brown, Oklahoma |
49. | Colts | T Chukwuma Okorafor, Western Michigan |
50. | Cowboys | DT Harrison Phillips, Stanford |
51. | Titans (DET) | OLB Lorenzo Carter, Georgia |
52. | Ravens | C Frank Ragnow, Arkansas |
53. | Bills | WR Anthony Miller, Memphis |
54. | Chiefs | CB Carlton Davis, Auburn |
55. | Panthers | WR Christian Kirk, Texas A&M |
56. | Falcons (BUF) | DE Arden Key, LSU |
57. | Titans | G Braden Smith, Auburn |
58. | Bills (ATL) | CB Donte Jackson, LSU |
59. | 49ers | FS Jessie Bates, Wake Forest |
60. | Bears (PIT) | DE Ogbonnia Okoronkwo, Oklahoma |
61. | SEAHAWKS (JAX) | DE SAM HUBBARD, OHIO STATE |
62. | Vikings | CB Quenton Meeks, Stanford |
63. | Patriots | OLB Uchenna Nwosu, USC |
64. | Browns | DT Nathan Shepherd, Fort Hays State |
Finally set to start my full mock today. Per usual, I'm no insider, so this is who I would take, not who I think they would take. Also, any former picks in parenthesis mean it's a mock trade, and not necessarily where the teams are actually pickingAs a life long Browns' fan, I would not be happy with this draft. First Lamar (imho) is not a first round pick. Second, I just don't think Barkley is going to be a game changing back. Saw too much of his yard from breakaway combined with many 1 or 2 yard carries. Also I think he bounces outside too much. Won't be able to do that in the NFL. If I was drafting for the Browns, I would probably draft Mayfield at one. Chubb at 4 (to combine him with Garrett). I might consider trading back into the first round if there was someone I absolutely loved that I didn't think would make it to the top of the 2nd.
FIRST ROUND
1. BROWNS RB SAQUON BARKLEY, PENN STATE 2. Giants DE Bradley Chubb, NC State 3. Jets QB Sam Darnold, USC 4. Browns FS Minkah Fitzpatrick, Alabama 5. Broncos G Quenton Nelson, Notre Dame 6. COLTS CB DENZEL WARD, OHIO STATE 7. Buccaneers SS Derwin James, Florida State 8. Bears ILB Roquan Smith, Georgia 9. Bills (SF) QB Josh Rosen, UCLA 10. Raiders ILB Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech 11. Dolphins DT Vita Vea, Washington 12. 49ers (BUF) CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville 13. Redskins DT Taven Bryan, Florida 14. Browns (GB) QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville 15. Cardinals QB Baker Mayfield, Oklahoma 16. Ravens WR Calvin Ridley, Alabama 17. CHARGERS DT MAURICE HURST, MICHIGAN 18. Seahawks RB Derrius Guice, LSU 19. Cowboys OLB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State 20. Lions G Isaiah Wynn, Georgia 21. Bengals G Will Hernandez, UTEP 22. Bills T Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame 23. Patriots DT De'Ron Payne, Alabama 24. PANTHERS CB JOSH JACKSON, IOWA 25. Lions (TEN) DE Marcus Davenport, UTSA 26. Falcons WR Courtland Sutton, SMU 27. Saints DE Harold Landry, Boston College 28. Steelers ILB Rashaan Evans, Alabama 29. Jaguars WR James Washington, Oklahoma State 30. Vikings T Connor Williams, Texas 31. Patriots CB Isaiah Oliver, Colorado 32. Eagles RB Ronald Jones II, USC
TRADES:
49ers trade 1st round (#9) to Bills for 1st round (#12) and 3rd round (#96)
Packers trade 1st round (#14) to Browns for two 2nd rounds (#33 and #35)
Titans trade 1st round (#25) to Lions for 2nd round (#51), 3rd round (#82) and 2019 3rd round pick
Lorenzo Carter (LB) is a pretty good second round pick if he lasts that long. He played in the shadow of his better known counterpart but was very effective and athletic.He certainly looks the part, I'm just concerned as to why the production never quite matched the skill set.
Is there anyone in the draft that is a good player, but injured?S Marcel Harris from Florida was out the whole year, but is going into the draft. Big-hitter, not great at coverage.
The Bears like drafting pre-injured players. Feel free to nominate.
I'll go with Jack Cichy.
He certainly looks the part, I'm just concerned as to why the production never quite matched the skill set.Physically he's a beast, and I wondered the same thing you did, but then saw a focus story on him. He's too nice. Like he's chill and nice and coaches had a hard time getting him amped up and unleashing the beast.
The Bears like drafting pre-injured players. Feel free to nominate.:hee20hee20hee:
65. | Bills | C Austin Corbett, Nevada |
66. | Giants | CB M.J. Stewart, North Carolina |
67. | Colts | OLB Darius Leonard, SC State |
68. | Texans | TE Mark Andrews, Oklahoma |
69. | Giants | WR Michael Gallup, Colorado State |
70. | 49ers | OLB Malik Jefferson, Texas |
71. | Cardinals (DEN) | WR Dante Pettis, Washington |
72. | JETS | OLB JEROME BAKER, OHIO STATE |
73. | Patriots (MIA) | RB Kerryon Johnson, Auburn |
74. | 49ers | DT B.J. Hill, NC State |
75. | Raiders | WR Tre'Quan Smith, Central Florida |
76. | Packers | RB Rashaad Penny, San Diego State |
77. | Bengals | WR Deon Cain, Clemson |
78. | Chiefs | WR D.J. Chark, LSU |
79. | Cardinals | FS Kyzir White, West Virginia |
80. | Texans | CB Holton Hill, Texas |
81. | COWBOYS | WR DAESEAN HAMILTON, PENN STATE |
82. | TITANS (DET) | ILB JOSEY JEWELL, IOWA |
83. | Ravens | TE Hayden Hurst, South Carolina |
84. | Chargers | DE Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest |
85. | Panthers | RB Royce Freeman, Oregon |
86. | Chiefs | SS DeShon Elliott, Texas |
87. | Rams | WR Equanimeous St. Brown, Notre Dame |
88. | Panthers | DE Jeff Holland, Auburn |
89. | Titans | DT Tim Settle, Virginia Tech |
90. | Falcons | DT Derrick Nnadi, Florida State |
91. | SAINTS | TE IAN THOMAS, INDIANA |
92. | BEARS (PIT) | OLB KEMOKO TURAY, RUTGERS |
93. | Jaguars | CB Duke Dawson, Florida |
94. | Vikings | C Martinas Rankin, Mississippi State |
95. | Dolphins (NE) | CB Rashaan Gaulden, Tennessee |
96. | 49ERS (BUF) | T JAMARCO JONES, OHIO STATE |
97. | Cardinals | DE Rasheem Green, USC |
98. | Texans | T Desmond Harrison, West Georgia |
99. | Cardinals (DEN) | CB Anthony Averett, Alabama |
100. | Bengals | OLB Fred Warner, BYU |
101. | Lions (GB) | DT Andrew Brown, Virginia |
102. | Buccaneers | T Brian O'Neill, Pittsburgh |
103. | Texans | G Wyatt Teller, Virginia Tech |
104. | Colts | WR Cedrick Wilson, Boise State |
105. | Bears | DT R.J. McIntosh, Miami |
106. | Cardinals (DEN) | RB Mark Walton, Miami |
107. | Jets | DE Da'Shawn Hand, Alabama |
108. | Giants | OLB Dorian O'Daniel, Clemson |
109. | Redskins | RB Nyheim Hines, NC State |
110. | Raiders | CB Isaac Yiadom, Boston College |
111. | RAMS | FS MARCUS ALLEN, PENN STATE |
112. | Bengals | T Joseph Noteboom, TCU |
113. | Broncos | WR Marcell Ateman, Oklahoma State |
114. | Browns | OLB Shaquem Griffin, Central Florida |
115. | Bears | WR Allen Lazard, Iowa State |
116. | Cowboys | SS Jordan Whitehead, Pittsburgh |
117. | Broncos (DET via GB) | RB Kalen Ballage, Arizona State |
118. | Ravens | ILB Micah Kiser, Virginia |
119. | CHARGERS | OLB TEGRAY SCALES, INDIANA |
120. | Jaguars (SEA) | TE Jaylen Samuels, NC State |
121. | Seahawks (BUF) | CB D.J. Reed, Kansas State |
122. | Chiefs | ILB Christian Sam, Arizona State |
123. | Dolphins | QB Kyle Lauletta, Richmond |
124. | Chiefs | FS Armani Watts, Texas A&M |
125. | Titans | FS Quin Blanding, Virginia |
126. | Falcons | CB Tarvarus McFadden, Florida State |
127. | Saints | WR Deontay Burnett, USC |
128. | 49ers | RB Josh Adams, Notre Dame |
129. | Patriots (JAX) | DE Dorance Armstrong, Kansas |
130. | Eagles | FS Terrell Edmunds, Virginia Tech |
131. | Cowboys (MIA) | DE Chad Thomas, Miami |
132. | EAGLES | ILB JACK CICHY, WISCONSIN |
133. | Raiders (GB) | DT Justin Jones, NC State |
134. | Cardinals | C Scott Quessenberry, UCLA |
135. | Colts (LAR) | DT Breeland Speaks, Ole Miss |
136. | Buccaneers (LAR) | DT Poona Ford, Texas |
137. | BENGALS (DAL via MIA) | CB NICK NELSON, WISCONSIN |
138. | Packers | OLB Genard Avery, Memphis |
139. | Giants | T Will Richardson, NC State |
140. | Rams (IND) | T Geron Christian, Louisville |
141. | Jaguars (SEA) | QB Mike White, Western Kentucky |
142. | Redskins | CB Dane Cruikshank, Arizona |
143. | 49ers | TE Dalton Schultz, Stanford |
144. | Vikings (TB via LAR) | DT Kendrick Norton, Miami |
145. | Bears | T Brandon Parker, North Carolina A&T |
146. | BILLS (SEA) | TE TROY FUMAGALLI, WISCONSIN |
147. | SAINTS | C MASON COLE, MICHIGAN |
148. | Bears (PIT) | CB Kameron Kelly, San Diego State |
149. | Ravens (DEN via GB) | RB John Kelly, Tennessee |
150. | Browns | CB Kevin Toliver, LSU |
151. | Texans (CIN via MIA) | DE Kylie Fitts, Utah |
152. | Seahawks (ARI) | DT Folorunso Fatukasi, Connecticut |
153. | EAGLES (DET via GB) | DE JALYN HOLMES, OHIO STATE |
154. | Eagles (BAL via GB) | WR Keke Coutee, Texas Tech |
155. | CHARGERS | FS GODWIN IGWEBUIKE, NORTHWESTERN |
156. | Packers (PHI) | DT Trenton Thompson, Georgia |
157. | JETS | WR SIMMIE COBBS, INDIANA |
158. | Bengals | C Bradley Bozeman, Alabama |
159. | RAIDERS | RB AKRUM WADLEY, IOWA |
160. | Packers (DEN) | G Colby Gossett, Appalachian State |
161. | Panthers | C Will Clapp, LSU |
162. | Steelers (TEN) | RB Bo Scarbrough, Alabama |
163. | Redskins | WR J'Mon Moore, Missouri |
164. | Saints | SS Siran Neal, Jacksonville State |
165. | Titans (PIT) | TE Durham Smythe, Notre Dame |
166. | Bills | DT Deadrin Senat, South Florida |
167. | Rams (MIN) | OLB Marquis Haynes, Ole Miss |
168. | Cardinals (SEA) | T Alex Cappa, Humboldt State |
169. | PACKERS (PHI) | DE TYQUAN LEWIS, OHIO STATE |
170. | Dolphins (CIN) | WR Jaleel Scott, NM State |
171. | Cowboys | TE Christopher Herndon, Miami |
172. | Packers | ILB Oren Burks, Vanderbilt |
173. | Packers (OAK) | QB Luke Falk, Washington State |
174. | Vikings (GB) | WR Auden Tate, Florida State |
Good to see Hurst is evidently okay.if he slips into the 2nd round, whoever drafts him is going to get a heck of a deal. wouldn't mind seeing the Browns draft Bradley Chubb in the 1st to team up with Myles Garrett and then take Hurst early in the 2nd rd. Talk about the foundation of a beastly DL.
There’s nearly a zero percent chance the Browns take Barkley at 1. They will take a qb and either Chubb or Fitz at 4 depending on what happens at the #2 spot.more I think about it, I think Browns should take Chubb first. He's the best pass rusher in this draft. 6'4+, 268 lbs and ran 4.65 at the combine. That's booking it for a guy his size. Pair him with Myles Garrett and you've got the foundation for a terrorizing DL for years to come. In the NFL you need an elite QB or an elite pass rush to win it all. Having both is obviously ideal but not realistic unless you get lucky in the draft.
#1 will be Darnold or the flag planting sooner.
175. | 49ers (CLE) | WR Antonio Callaway, Florida |
176. | RAMS | ILB JASON CABINDA, PENN STATE |
177. | Dolphins (HOU) | OLB Davin Bellamy, Georgia |
178. | Colts | G Skyler Phillips, Idaho State |
179. | Jets | T Toby Weathersby, LSU |
180. | Rams (TB) | CB Parry Nickerson, Tulane |
181. | Bears | RB Ito Smith, Southern Miss |
182. | CARDINALS | SS DAMON WEBB, OHIO STATE |
183. | Rams | DE Hercules Mata'afa, Washington State |
184. | Browns (SF) | WR Trey Quinn, SMU |
185. | Packers (OAK) | FS Jeremy Reaves, South Alabama |
186. | PACKERS | C BRIAN ALLEN, MICHIGAN STATE |
187. | Bills | ILB Shaun Dion Hamilton, Alabama |
188. | Browns | SS Tre Flowers, Oklahoma State |
189. | SAINTS | OLB LEON JACOBS, WISCONSIN |
190. | Ravens | QB Riley Ferguson, Memphis |
191. | Chargers | QB Chase Litton, Marshall |
192. | Cowboys | RB Roc Thomas, Jacksonville State |
193. | COWBOYS | C SEAN WELSH, IOWA |
194. | BUCCANEERS (LAR) | RB JUSTIN JACKSON, NORTHWESTERN |
195. | Rams | RB Darrel Williams, LSU |
196. | Rams | G Tony Adams, NC State |
197. | Panthers | FS NATRELL JAMERSON, WISCONSIN |
198. | Bengals (NE via MIA) | RB Phillip Lindsay, Colorado |
199. | Titans | WR Korey Robertson, Southern Miss |
200. | Bills (ATL) | DE Trevon Young, Louisville |
201. | Saints | CB Darius Phillips, Western Michigan |
202. | Buccaneers | WR Jordan Lasley, UCLA |
203. | Jaguars | DE Kentavius Street, NC State |
204. | RAMS (MIN) | SS TROY APKE, PENN STATE |
205. | Redskins | OLB Matthew Thomas, Florida State |
206. | Packers (PHI) | TE Tyler Conklin, Central Michigan |
207. | Packers | T Greg Senat, Wagner |
208. | Cowboys | G Taylor Hearn, Clemson |
209. | Chiefs | DE Ade Aruna, Tulane |
210. | Jaguars (NE) | ILB Joel Iyiegbuniwe, Western Kentucky |
211. | Dolphins (HOU) | G Sam Jones, Arizona State |
212. | Raiders | OLB MIKE MCCRAY, MICHIGAN |
213. | Packers (MIN) | K Daniel Carlson, Auburn |
214. | Texans | WR Byron Pringle, Kansas State |
215. | Packers (BAL) | CB Tony Brown, Alabama |
216. | Raiders | DE Olasunkanmi Adeniyi, Toledo |
217. | Raiders | QB Kurt Benkert, Virginia |
218. | Packers (MIN) | WR Richie James, Middle Tennessee |
Tell you what, I'd rather have Lamar Jackson in the middle or late 1st than one of the other QB's early. I think Rosen will be the best of the bunch and he's most ready to plug and play. I question Mayfield's size and maturity, not his game. I think his game translates a lot better to the next level than Johnny Foosballs ever did. Mayfield can really play. It's everything else you question. Whoever takes Josh Allen high is just an idiot buying into hype IMO. Darnold seems to me like Andrew Luck light. Not quite as good and the ceiling isn't quite as high as Luck but he also comes with a little bit of turnover-itis like Luck did.If Lamar learns to run correctly yea he's the best QB in the IMO. By correctly I mean don't be fearless (like RG3), run and scramble like Russel Wilson. One of the main reasons why Russel rarely gets hurt despite his size and playing behind one of the worst OLs in NFL history is because defenders rarely/never get a clean shot on him.
I think the only QB I'd take in the 1st is Rosen. He's as close to a sure thing as there is in this draft. If I'm spending a high 1st round pick at QB, I want to be sure. Jackson probably has the highest upside just based on his freakish athletic ability and his cannon arm.
219. | PATRIOTS | QB TANNER LEE, NEBRASKA |
220. | Steelers | CB Avonte Maddox, Pittsburgh |
221. | Rams (IND) | FB Dimitri Flowers, Oklahoma |
222. | Texans | OLB Peter Kalambayi, Stanford |
223. | BROWNS (SF) | T NICK GATES, NEBRASKA |
224. | Bears | G K.C. McDermott, Miami |
225. | Vikings | DE Marcell Frazier, Missouri |
226. | Seahawks | WR Javon Wims, Georgia |
227. | Dolphins | RB Jordan Wilkins, Ole Miss |
228. | Raiders | TE Jordan Akins, Central Florida |
229. | Dolphins | FS Van Smith, Clemson |
230. | Jaguars | RB Chase Edmonds, Fordham |
231. | Redskins | G Jamil Demby, Maine |
232. | Packers | DT P.J. Hall, Sam Houston State |
233. | CHIEFS | OLB GARRETT DOOLEY, WISCONSIN |
234. | PANTHERS | G BRENDAN MAHON, PENN STATE |
235. | Jets | RB Justin Crawford, West Virginia |
236. | Dolphins (DAL) | DE Joe Ostman, Central Michigan |
237. | Lions | WR Daurice Fountain, Northern Iowa |
238. | Cardinals | T Timon Parris, Stony Brook |
239. | Packers | TE Ryan Izzo, Florida State |
240. | 49ers | SS Tracy Walker, UL Lafayette |
241. | Redskins | ILB Andre Smith, North Carolina |
242. | Panthers | T Cole Madison, Washington State |
243. | Chiefs | T Brett Toth, Army |
244. | Falcons | OLB Ja'Von Rolland-Jones, Arkansas State |
245. | Saints | FS Stephen Roberts, Auburn |
246. | Titans (PIT) | C Austin Golson, Auburn |
247. | Jaguars | FS Tavarius Moore, Southern Miss |
248. | Seahawks | TE Will Dissly, Washington |
249. | Bengals | SS Tray Matthews, Auburn |
250. | SEAHAWKS | OLB CHRIS WORLEY, OHIO STATE |
251. | Chargers | ILB Kenny Young, UCLA |
252. | Bengals | DT Bilal Nichols, Delaware |
253. | BENGALS | TE MARCUS BAUGH, OHIO STATE |
254. | Cardinals | G Rod Taylor, Ole Miss |
255. | Buccaneers | OLB Skai Moore, South Carolina |
256. | Falcons | G Jaryd Jones-Smith, Pittsburgh |
The Browns have now signaled that they are interested in every single QB. Unless their front office is totally clueless (not a stretch) plus given that the current front offices MO is stockpiling picks, they already know who they are taking and want to trade the #4.You do know that Sashi Brown (the one known for accumulating draft picks) is no longer the GM and the John Dorsey is now the GM and is NOT known for stockpiling picks. :73:
I'm doubtful anyone will take a flyer on Antonio Callaway WR Florida. Hasn't played in a year and had issues before the credit fraud thing. Maybe if he was another Randy Moss or something, but he's not. He's good/not great.Starting to think you might be right
You do know that Sashi Brown (the one known for accumulating draft picks) is no longer the GM and the John Dorsey is now the GM and is NOT known for stockpiling picks. :73:I forgot they fired another GM until today. Still its great strategy. We're the Browns! Admit it Bills and Cards, you can't be 100% sure that we aren't crazy enough to draft 2 QBs.
Starting to think you might be righton a similar note, listening to sports radio here in ttown they've been saying ridley will be the top wr taken most likely, and maybe only 1 in rd 1.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23307633/wr-prospect-antonio-callaway-tested-positive-marijuana-combine
Too bad for him too. It's a weak WR crop, he could have been the first one taken.
I think they are taking Darnold and I think Dorsey is telling different people in the organization different things to see who is leaking stuff. Everyone is leaking stuff, which is why there is a new QB they are taking each day. It's Game of Thrones in the Browns front office.If NFL teams were Houses in GoT, the Browns would be House Tully. Someone else's bitch, causing problems, no power of their own, and their only importance is their location in the greater landscape of things.
Whichever one is most likely to be a complete and total bust that flames out after about a half a dozen starts, that's the one that the Clowns are going to pick.as is tradition
I'm thankful to not have any friends like that. I used to...Purdue usually doesn't have any players drafted high enough to get attention from any friends like that I *do* have.
I don't get closing the book on Kiser already. Go get two solid pieces to pit around him. I think he can be a top 12-15 QB like a Russell Wilson or Kirk Cousins. That's good enough to win if he's still on his rookie contract like the Seahawks did.Kizer was making school yard decisions repeatedly with his throwing.It was odd his two best games from a mistake perspective were the 1st & last games of the season vs Pittsburgh.Browns would have have beat the Steelers,Kizer threw a beautiful pass inside the 10 and previous 1st round pick Corey Coleman drops the ball right in his hands.Way too many times throwing into horrendous traffic.It's common sense if 3-4 defenders are on one guy others are open.Whether he doesn't see the field or just panics and rushes his throws he had time to throw over all.He led the league with 22 picks
Kizer was making school yard decisions repeatedly with his throwing.It was odd his two best games from a mistake perspective were the 1st & last games of the season vs Pittsburgh.Browns would have have beat the Steelers,Kizer threw a beautiful pass inside the 10 and previous 1st round pick Corey Coleman drops the ball right in his hands.Way too many times throwing into horrendous traffic.It's common sense if 3-4 defenders are on one guy others are open.Whether he doesn't see the field or just panics and rushes his throws he had time to throw over all.He led the league with 22 picksKizer was definitely a turnover waiting to happen. That said, Hue did him no favors. Never adapted his offense to the players rather insisting the Kizer adapt to his offense. Kizer had no chance to develop and get better with Hue's play calling.
I get asked about anybody, not just Nebraska. They know I sit and watch college all day on 3 TVs, so surely I have an opinion on some Mtn West TE.Yeah, my friends know I can give a blurb on just about anyone in college football.
I'm guessing Mayfield is the best QB in the class, but I'm just guessingWhat is an example of a QB that went onto play at a high level, after an unsuccessful stint with the Browns?
just because a QB doesn't play well in Cleveland doesn't mean the QB can't play well
I think Mayfield is less likely to bust than Manziel, but still fairly likely. Manziel was a 99.99% bust.agree with this. much of that has to do with the team that selected him.
What is an example of a QB that went onto play at a high level, after an unsuccessful stint with the Browns?example? you want an example???
As to Ward vs Chubb. I probably gone with Chubb, but Ward is a good pick there for need..Well Dorsey did trade that DB to NE creating that need a good line can make the backfield look good rather than the other way around.Elway has done a good job in Denver and they sucked up Chubb pretty quickly.Would have grabbed Darnold with the 1st pick,Mayfield had maybe the best line in CFB.The left tackle was what 6'7" but the Browns have a decent line.Evidently the last DB to be taken that high was Charles Woodson 20 yrs ago.Ward has top end speed.Browns should pick both sides of the line and build out from there.I give the Browns a "C" in the 1st round,hope I'm wrong
I would nearly always trade down for more picks under the principle I'm not smart enough to select the "sure fire" guys in the top ten.I agree and it isn't just that you or I aren't smart enough. There are a lot of things that are difficult or impossible to measure. Even the best draft experts screw up sometimes.
I would nearly always trade down for more picks under the principle I'm not smart enough to select the "sure fire" guys in the top ten. I also would draft big uglies first, and then LBs and DBs and THEN offensive backs. Even an average running back in the NFL is exceptionally good and will be fine behind a great OL.Maybe, I dunno. Nelson's blitz pickup against Georgia is one of his highlight plays. It was impressive, for a guard to annihilate a blitzer on the other side of a play.
Those two ND OLs had a rough game against UGA.
I had to go check NDs record and final ranking last season.
Those two ND OLs had a rough game against UGA.
One play out of 60......cool.I mean...what are you expecting. He's a guard. Don't usually find many highlight plays there.
Even the best draft experts make mistakes from time to time. The Browns can ill afford to make mistakes. As such, they would have been better off to trade down to get more picks. With more picks the mistakes are more likely to balance out with the homeruns.That's been a lot of the belief around here for quite sometime.Kind of hoping the Universal law of averages kicks in at some point:-[
The Lions drafted a player in round 3 with "oily hips".Prolly a Police term to go a long with "sticky fingers"
I have no idea what this means.
The Browns should officially change their name to the Clowns, and just roll with it from this point forward.Might work could be intimidating in a freaky/creepy kind of way
just wait until Johnny numb nuts gets back in the league:D As what?A Las Vegas tour guide or a substance abuse counselor?Or just a fine example of a bad example
I agree and it isn't just that you or I aren't smart enough. There are a lot of things that are difficult or impossible to measure. Even the best draft experts screw up sometimes.That is a better way to put it, especially for skill position players. RBs and WRs USUALLY pan out, but QBs flame out often
Personally I find the comparisons of Mayfield to Manziel lazy. Do any kind of research and you find they are not alike.This.
Well, no one wanted Florida's kicker, who led the nation in FG% and didn't miss from 50+ in both years at UF.
To clarify, Minnesota did re-sign kicker Kai Forbath on a one-year deal in free agency. The Vikings used pick No. 167, which they acquired from the Jets, to land Daniel Carlson, a kicker from Auburn. Minnesota made 87% of extra point tries last season, which is ranked 31st in the NFL.
Personally I find the comparisons of Mayfield to Manziel lazy. Do any kind of research and you find they are not alike.I'm not comparing their physical abilities, I'm comparing their attitudes. From what I have seen, they are both head cases. I may be wrong, but I don't see much daylight between the two in that regard.
.Well Dorsey did trade that DB to NE creating that need a good line can make the backfield look good rather than the other way around.Elway has done a good job in Denver and they sucked up Chubb pretty quickly.Would have grabbed Darnold with the 1st pick,Mayfield had maybe the best line in CFB.The left tackle was what 6'7" but the Browns have a decent line.Evidently the last DB to be taken that high was Charles Woodson 20 yrs ago.Ward has top end speed.Browns should pick both sides of the line and build out from there.I give the Browns a "C" in the 1st round,hope I'm wrongI am fairly sold that Ogbah is going to be a very good Edge guy to complement Garrett. He was looking very good before his injury last season. A press CB was more of a need than an edge
I'm not comparing their physical abilities, I'm comparing their attitudes. From what I have seen, they are both head cases. I may be wrong, but I don't see much daylight between the two in that regard.Agreed.
Browns kinda bungled the hit. Again.The Bengals bungle stuff.
call me crazy but I think the Raiders might've had the best draft.Obliged. Yer nuts.
They got Martavis Bryant in a trade for basically nothing. He's going to be plug and play and produce right away opposite Amari Cooper and Jordy Nelson.
What's the best way to improve a defense? Add pass rushers. They already had arguably the best pass rusher in football in Khalil Mack. They went out and stole Arden Key in the 3rd rd and Mo Hurst in the 5th. Those two guys will be impact players as rookies and provide the Raiders with plenty of pressure opposite Mack. Kinda blows my mind that Key was there in the 3rd and Hurst in the 5th. Both the biggest steals of the draft if you ask me. Insane value at the 3rd and 5th rds. Both of them should've been 1st rd picks and are WAY better than most of the picks that went 1st rd.
Obliged. Yer nuts.I don't know of one team who got better value.
I don't know of one team who got better value.Bryant is undeniably talented. He's also too big for his britches. Wanted to act like he was the king dog in Philly, surrounded by Big Ben, Antonio Brown, and Leveon Bell. When he couldn't even beat out JuJu Smith-Schuster.
They traded a 4th rd pick I believe to the Steelers for WR Martavis Bryant. Bryant is a legit 6'4, 210+ and runs in the 4.4's. He also is only 26 with only 3 seasons of NFL wear on tear on his body as he was suspended all of 2016. He'll produce more than any WR in this draft in 2018, and imo he was better than any WR in this draft. He just is. This was a really bad WR draft.
Arden Key and Mo Hurst are both big-time talents that they stole. Key had issues with marijuana and went to rehab. Hurst's heart condition never cost him to miss a snap and he was medically cleared by both Michigan and Harvard. Both of these guys will be big-time and got drafted way lower than they should have.
They went out and stole Arden Key in the 3rd rd and Mo Hurst in the 5th. Kinda blows my mind that Key was there in the 3rd and Hurst in the 5th.Kinda of a head scratcher Hurst dropped below the 2nd.There were reports evidently he had some weird heart condition or sumsuch.If his ticker is not a problem then that's a great pick there IMO
I'm sure Josh Gordon will show him around ~??? .Surprised Simmie Cobbs went undrafted.Maybe I caught too many highlight replays.Scouting report says he looks great one play the grate another
Surprise #1: someone drafted WR Antonio Callaway
Surprise #2: it was the Browns - the last franchise in need of making risky picks
21 | BC | KNEVEL, DAVID NEBRASKA READ (https://www.cfl.ca/2017/08/30/knevel-headlines-central-scouting-bureau-september-rankings/) | OL | 6'9 | 305 | 1994-10-18 |
43 | TOR | HARRINGTON, SEAN MICHIGAN STATE | LB | 6'0 | 228 | 1995-09-01 |
fell to the 3rd round - ton of potential, probably just didn't work hard enough
Nebraska OL David Knevel is projected to go in the second round of tonights CFL Draft. :PDT_Armataz_01_37:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcTDfz5XUAE4-7p.jpg)
I have never heard of Sean HarringtonSimplifying their "import rule," each CFL team is required to have half of their roster made up of Canadian players.
fell to the 3rd round - ton of potential, probably just didn't work hard enoughIf he had only been at UNL in the mid-90s....he'd have 83 reps....
at 6-9, 333lbs how do you only rep 225 on the bench 16 times?