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Title: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on July 27, 2017, 10:54:13 AM
Anyone planning to go to this game in Los Angeles?

I'm booked on all accounts -  hotel, airfaire, and have game tickets from the USC box office. 

This will be my first trip to the Memorial Coliseum.  I have no idea if there is a tailgate scene or not, but I'm open to suggestions for pre-game activities or locations if anyone else has been there as a visitor. 


Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2017, 10:56:46 AM
I've never been there and won't be able to make it this year, so no help for you there.

But I'm hopeful it's a good game. Going to be a tall order to win this game in Herman's first year, but anything is possible!
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on July 27, 2017, 11:41:25 AM
Yeah, I am holding my expectations low.  But I do think Herman can do great things, so I'm optimistic.

This was kind of a double-duty trip for us.  My brother lives down in San Diego, and our very close friends are up in Bakersfield, so we are actually flying in Wed and staying through Sunday so we can spend time with them as well.   Hopefully the game is as enjoyable for us as the visiting with friends & family. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on July 31, 2017, 12:07:32 PM
They do tailgate at the Coliseum. And they actually sell beer inside the stadium too.

The only thing to note is that the area *around* USC is terrible. You know when rappers talk about life in South Central LA? Yeah, that's where USC is.

So I'd stay on the premises for your pregame/tailgate activities, and get well away from the area afterwards for postgame festivities.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: TexasFan on August 13, 2017, 10:05:55 AM
Long Beach is nicer than the area around USC.   
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on August 13, 2017, 02:35:44 PM
Hey TF, welcome to the new board!
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: betarhoalphadelta on August 13, 2017, 04:15:45 PM
Long Beach is nicer than the area around USC.   

There are actually some very nice areas of Long Beach. Everyone [not from here] thinks that Long Beach is "the hood" because of Snoop, and to be fair, there are areas of Long Beach that aren't exactly the nicest or safest... But there are plenty of areas that are quite nice.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on August 14, 2017, 09:36:37 AM
Sure it might be nicer, but it doesn't look very convenient for someone going specifically for the game and not wanting to drive/park/figure out how to get there. 

I'll have to do Long Beach when I am on a mission to actually see parts of the LA area coastline, but I've done that already and this one is a football-focused trip. :)
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: 847badgerfan on August 14, 2017, 01:35:12 PM
There are actually some very nice areas of Long Beach. Everyone [not from here] thinks that Long Beach is "the hood" because of Snoop, and to be fair, there are areas of Long Beach that aren't exactly the nicest or safest... But there are plenty of areas that are quite nice.
My brother-in-law (RIP pal) lived in Belmont Shore. Awesome area.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Thumper on August 15, 2017, 01:09:21 PM
Anyone planning to go to this game in Los Angeles?

I'm booked on all accounts -  hotel, airfaire, and have game tickets from the USC box office. 

This will be my first trip to the Memorial Coliseum.  I have no idea if there is a tailgate scene or not, but I'm open to suggestions for pre-game activities or locations if anyone else has been there as a visitor. 


I hope you have a great time.  Maybe this will be a classic like the last time these teams met.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: TexasFan on September 03, 2017, 09:32:46 AM
After what I saw yesterday, we may not win more than five games this year. :smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 05, 2017, 10:23:29 AM
Right now it's pretty tough to see a path to even 3 wins.  San Jose State this weekend, probably.  Baylor might be worse than Texas, so maybe that's a win too?    Other than that... ugh.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 05, 2017, 04:56:55 PM
I'm calling 7 wins, guys.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 05, 2017, 07:09:30 PM
Right now it's pretty tough to see a path to even 3 wins.  San Jose State this weekend, probably.  Baylor might be worse than Texas, so maybe that's a win too?    Other than that... ugh.
That seems very pessimistic.  Possible, but on the extreme low end of the probable range.  I guess we'll see over the first month, but I'm in agreement with you that Saturday looked like last year's team, and I find it unlikely that Herman got absolutely nothing changed in his time so far.  If something systemic hadn't been acted upon, I'd agree with you comment in the other thread about fixing something that should be fixed in the offseason is a tough job during the season.  I guess I'm banking that things were changed, but that the implementation didn't manifest in week 1.  This, I think, is a different challenge than if nothing had changed in the off-season.  
Or Herman's comments about fairy dust could be 100% accurate.  But it sounds like coach speak following a bad loss to me.  I don't buy quite yet that he's been sitting around thinking his aura would magically transform the team.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 06, 2017, 10:54:02 AM
OK.  If you say so. 

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: ALA2262 on September 06, 2017, 01:04:21 PM
After what I saw yesterday, we may not win more than five games this year. :smiley_confused1:


I don't see but five. SJSU, Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas, and TTU.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 06, 2017, 02:57:16 PM
I don't see but five. SJSU, Iowa State, Baylor, Kansas, and TTU.
This Texas season will make no sense, inconsistency will reign.  As is common with coaching changes.
Texas has already lost one they were picked to win, they will win some they are picked to lose.
7 wins.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 06, 2017, 04:44:44 PM
I was thinking along those lines, tho utee has historically gauged Texas much better than after a game.  

Still, 3 wins seems nearly unattainable.  5 feels more like the absolute bottom for the program.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on September 08, 2017, 10:25:31 AM
I like the results of what happened last time Texas was assumed to lose to USC.   Maybe the same result will happen this time, even though it's totally different circumstances and not as much pressure to win given it's an OOC early season game.  For me, these early games end up being less predictable than the bowl games anyhow.

Either way, it will be a fun experience even if the game ends up being a disappointment as a UT fan.  I'll still be there to represent and cheer on the team, even if things look sour at this point.  I will NEVER be one of the ones throwing trash down on the field like I saw from last week's game. I am more disappointed in the fan reaction than I was at the team's performance, honestly.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: TexasFan on September 11, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
I was surprised as well.  Seeing fans throw things at a home game was a first for me. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2017, 02:27:44 PM
Just saw this article from hookem.com that someone shared on Facebook.

https://www.hookem.com/football-news/usc-trojans-texas-longhorns-media-guide-ignores-rose-bowl-loss

Apparently in the records in USC's media guide, they ignore their loss to Texas in the 2006 Rose Bowl for the 2005 MNC.  They cite that the loss was "vacated" due to the Reggie Bush scandal, so they're 4-0 against Texas instead of 4-1 (with that 1 loss being the most recent, and most important, in the series history of course).

That's a bold strategy, Cotton...
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 11, 2017, 02:31:45 PM
^if true, that is hilarious. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 11, 2017, 02:49:57 PM
Tom Herman is suddenly God in Austin if Texas were to pull this out.

But let's be real.  This fledgling Texas team has no chance.

A respectable fight is the best we can hope for.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 11, 2017, 02:51:44 PM
I disagree... I think this one will bring USCw back into the realm we call reality.  they may not lose, but they're gonna be in a scrap. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 11, 2017, 02:55:39 PM
I disagree... I think this one will bring USCw back into the realm we call reality.  they may not lose, but they're gonna be in a scrap.
Could be true, but any team who beats David Shaw's Stanford bunch automatically gets a certain level of respect in my book.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2017, 03:08:03 PM
Maybe we can slide in as a trap game opponent.  Following a big conference show-down against ranked Stanford, maybe they'll be flat against us.

Plus, with Berkeley as your next opponent, how can they NOT be looking ahead????
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 11, 2017, 03:10:20 PM
and that win, last weekend, was poetry- but against an O they expect, and one that is pretty well documented.  Still, that 'furd tailback got free a couple of times... once for a big chunk, no?

UTa hung 56 points last weekend. I am in the frame of thought (and shamelessly stealing the notion from many great coaches, and to the point its origin is lost) that any team that can score 56 in a game has a good O, regardless of the competition.  Obviously, they can't do that against really good D's, but that doesn't make them any less dangerous to those 'better' D's, right? It means they have a better chance of neutralizing them consistently.  

In my way of doing this, and at this point in the week (*before i've really studied) i'll share this:

UT-a can score at least 17 on USCw over the period of regulation, and with a ceiling of 35 on them.. They can likely hold USCw to 35 points and a roof of 49 (sorry, that is one helluva backfield USCw has).   that is a Texas mean score of 26, and a USCw mean of 42.  And that sounds about right to me except for the intangibles- and this game ought to be full of them due to history, the spotlight, bruised ego's, and both teams hungry (one especially hungry).  I'd lay out as much as 17 free points on the intangible aspect of this game- and they can go to anyone...

so... mean of 42/26 in USCw's favor, adding those 17 to Texas? Texas wins... barely.  that ain't gonna happen, most likely, but- I think Texas get's the greater share of those free points to the tune of 14ish... now you've got a game, no?

Texas scores 40... USC scores 45.

^they may as well not even play, now... just read that there.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 11, 2017, 03:14:51 PM
Just saw this article from hookem.com that someone shared on Facebook.

https://www.hookem.com/football-news/usc-trojans-texas-longhorns-media-guide-ignores-rose-bowl-loss

Apparently in the records in USC's media guide, they ignore their loss to Texas in the 2006 Rose Bowl for the 2005 MNC.  They cite that the loss was "vacated" due to the Reggie Bush scandal, so they're 4-0 against Texas instead of 4-1 (with that 1 loss being the most recent, and most important, in the series history of course).

That's a bold strategy, Cotton...
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Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 11, 2017, 03:19:11 PM
I want Texas to win for the obvious reason, but I also just want the fans that threw those "fans" on the field to feel like idiots.

Tom Herman's debut brought out the worst in entitled Texas fans.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 11, 2017, 03:31:10 PM
You'd think the past 7 years would have bludgeoned out the entitlement, but no.  We are just that arrogant.  
Kneel before our arrogance, I say!



Anyway, I like drew's analysis, and think it's pretty reasonable.

Here's hoping the Horns play to their max ceiling, and also pick up every available "free point" on the table.

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 11, 2017, 04:11:53 PM
The line has UT as a 14 point dog

Considering the ranking of SC and the fact UT is the visitor this may be optimistic

We need our starting QB back to have a chance

has anyone read what his status is
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Mr Tulip on September 11, 2017, 04:31:01 PM
Ehlinger acquitted himself nicely. He plays fearless, and throws a fearless ball. This led to some amazing completions that wouldn't have normally occurred. It also led to some sure boneheaded interceptions had SJSU remembered to squeeze the ball. 

I can put together some plausible scenarios for the Texas offense to score points. If the OL really is that invested in the process, then savvy play calling can keep the USC defense guessing sufficient enough to hold the ball.

What is stretching my faith past reality right now is having our defensive secondary suddenly go into lockdown mode. Individually, they're athletic enough to do it. I'm just filled with visions of a vacated middle occupied by nothing but 'SC receivers gliding down the seams for TDs. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 11, 2017, 05:20:36 PM
We need our starting QB back to have a chance
All I can say is I now see why Buchelle was not hands-down named the starter 9 months ago.
Buchelle has the experience, a deeper playbook, and possibly threads the needle better.
But Ehlinger looked tough and durable out there.  He hit a few good ones, he also threw some would-be picks.  He's got the edge on arm strength, and his run game is a step ahead of Buchelle.
To my knowledge, Herman has never solidly shut down any talk of QB controversy - although he probably should have.  He himmed and hawwed when asked about his QB's in the post game.
To me, this just means that Herman sees the experience in Buchelle, but he sees more potential in Ehlinger.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 11, 2017, 05:37:46 PM
I think Buchele is the more accurate passer

He scrambles better which is a big plus with our OL

He got the go ahead to practice Tuesday and Wednesday but is still not 100%

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 13, 2017, 04:22:29 PM
All I can say is I now see why Buchelle was not hands-down named the starter 9 months ago.
Buchelle has the experience, a deeper playbook, and possibly threads the needle better.
But Ehlinger looked tough and durable out there.  He hit a few good ones, he also threw some would-be picks.  He's got the edge on arm strength, and his run game is a step ahead of Buchelle.
To my knowledge, Herman has never solidly shut down any talk of QB controversy - although he probably should have.  He himmed and hawwed when asked about his QB's in the post game.
To me, this just means that Herman sees the experience in Buchelle, but he sees more potential in Ehlinger.
Bingo.
I think Buchelle could be a great quarterback in an offense built around his skills, but I don't think Herman has the inclination to do that.  I think he prefers what dual threat quarterbacks bring to the table.  And that's fine.  It's his prerogative.  
Ehlinger and Heard are both better fits for Herman's offernse.  Hell, Little Jordan Humphrey is too.
Maybe instead of giving Heard a package, maybe Herman should give Buchelle a package and otherwise let Ehlinger and Heard run the offense.
It would be better than seeing Shane get killed.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: TexasFan on September 14, 2017, 12:46:39 PM
I would take Texas and the points.  The chances of this team winning in LA is slim, but 17 pts is inviting.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 14, 2017, 01:34:41 PM
This might be a good gauge of how much true progress UT made from week 1 and week 2, and how much was the quality of opponent.  USC looked frighteningly good by the end of the Stanford game.  Not that they demolished them or anything.  But they were consistently and appreciably better, and I think Stanford is a legitimately good team.  

I'm not convinced SC didn't register the actual best win last weekend, despite OU/OSU making all the news.  SC looked as good as I've seen a team look this season.  Texas has their work cut out for them to beat the spread.  I'd be fairly shocked if they pull the upset.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 14, 2017, 07:46:00 PM
I'd be fairly shocked if Texas keeps it within 3 TDs at the final gun, but here's hoping for the best.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 15, 2017, 09:10:09 AM
yep

If I were to place a bet on this game Id take SC and give the points
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 15, 2017, 09:56:12 AM
yep

If I were to place a bet on this game Id take SC and give the points
Whew.  Good to know that the fairy dust Maryland expectations are now out the window.
Now maybe we can just enjoy watching a program rebuild.  There's no cake.  There was never a cake.  We must now build one.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 15, 2017, 10:03:34 AM
Whew.  Good to know that the fairy dust Maryland expectations are now out the window.
Now maybe we can just enjoy watching a program rebuild.  There's no cake.  There was never a cake.  We must now build one.
This was a 5-7 team last year.  6-6 would represent an improvement.  
Here's hoping for some improvement.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Cincydawg on September 15, 2017, 10:05:56 AM
A 14 point dog wins about 12-15% of the time in college.  A 21 point dog wins about 1% of the time.

Texas beating USC would be one of the upsets of the year, possible, but not very likely, and it strike me that losing by 21+ is more likely.  I'd give the points also, but perhaps Texas had too many bugs in the system in Week 1 and is really a fairly talented team that can compete if they execute.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 15, 2017, 10:49:28 AM
Never tell me the odds!
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 15, 2017, 12:11:08 PM
Never tell me the odds!
I believe I heard Captain Kirk tell Mr. Spock that a time or two.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 15, 2017, 12:17:38 PM
icwudt
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 15, 2017, 12:25:36 PM
perhaps Texas had too many bugs in the system in Week 1 and is really a fairly talented team that can compete if they execute.
Much like the last few seasons, the opportunity for improvement in this Texas team pretty much spans across all phases of the game.  However, I do believe the loss of D'onta Foreman is not helping matters.
I liked the look of some of our young RB's during garbage time last week.  I hope these guys are getting some good practice reps.  Chris Warren is the crème of our crop right now, and although he is fun to watch when he rumbles free, I'm not sure his size will dominate like it did with San Jose St.  But at least he does fight for every last yard.  Kyle Porter, otoh, goes down when he is grazed.  This was the case last year as well.  I just haven't seen much from that guy when it comes to netting crucial yardage.
Here's hoping one of our young backs can show us something as the season progresses.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 15, 2017, 12:26:43 PM
icwudt
took me about 5 seconds.  I'm getting better.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 15, 2017, 01:08:17 PM
I really don't feel like I've seen Warren have a great day against a good defense.  Of course, USC doesn't necessarily qualify as a good defense, so there is that.

But I agree, I like the way he fights for every yard no matter what.

I'd love to see him prove himself tomorrow with a great game, and like you, I'd love to see some of the other young RBs make some plays too.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 15, 2017, 08:49:49 PM
Whew.  Good to know that the fairy dust Maryland expectations are now out the window.
Now maybe we can just enjoy watching a program rebuild.  There's no cake.  There was never a cake.  We must now build one.
Course if the Horns actually pull the upset, we'll all get poisoned Kool-Aid thrown in our faces, even if we refuse to drink it.   
And even if we fight unrealistic expectations we'll all be pissed as a mofo if Iowa State upsets us in the next game.
And you just know that very scenario is very likely with these damned crazy, talented undisciplined kids who can't remember what blocking and tackling means from one week to another.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 17, 2017, 02:07:05 AM
I disagree... I think this one will bring USCw back into the realm we call reality.  they may not lose, but they're gonna be in a scrap.
if'n you fellers have been following my predictions so far this season, you should have learned three things:  take the outright, take the spread, but disregard the over/under. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 17, 2017, 09:39:30 AM
Defense played great and surprised the heck out of me.  Offensive line and rushing game were completely absent.

But, there's certainly some to build on.   We're 0-0 in league play, so there's that!
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Thumper on September 17, 2017, 09:51:13 AM
Tremendous finish to this game.  I thought foLonr sure Texas had won it with that last TD in regulation.  The Longhorn D was what I expected them to look like this season.  The baby QB grew up between the first quarter and the last.  I don't know if Texas is back but they took a big step forward.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 17, 2017, 10:15:14 AM
while UTs play last night was fantastic it should be noted that IMHO they will play 2 more teams that are better then USC this year

so lets get ready cause its gonna be a bumpy ride
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 17, 2017, 11:28:14 AM
For sure, OU and oSu are both better than USC.  Perhaps even significantly better.  But OU's a rivalry game and we play them in the Cotton Bowl, not on the road.  And oSu we get at home, not on the road.

But it's not just them, the meat of the B12 is also pretty scary.  TCU and WVU are both good and very dangerous teams.  KSU disappointed with their loss to Vandy, but they are proven to be our kryptonite and the Purple Wizard usually beats us.

Baylor and Kansas are probably the only easy outs, but of course Kansas actually beat us last year, so...

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 17, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
OU is very different from USC, but I'm not convinced at this point they are better.  That was a great, great, performance by the Texas defense.  Yeah, "Not great, Bob" for the O, but I believe the season will vindicate my idea that SC is also one of the best defenses in the country.  Ehlinger is probably the QB now, I'd think.  That kid is gonna be a very good player and win a lot of games at UT.  

I'm feeling better and better about my predictions for Herman at UT.  The improvements from week 1 to week 3 are tangible and glaring.  

I'm not generally one for moral victories, but if there is such a thing as a good loss, that was it.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 09:37:11 AM
I'm feeling better and better about my predictions for Herman at UT.  The improvements from week 1 to week 3 are tangible and glaring.   
I just expect some very inconsistent play from Texas this season.  I would say so far, that's pretty much what we have gotten, although admittedly there has been significant variability in terms of opponents.
At this stage, the inconsistency to me is a good sign.  It means things are moving and shaking.  It's too bad we couldn't squeak out that win against USC because our players sure could have used that.  On the flipside, the UT fan entitlement may have passed GO and collected $200 had Texas have won - which is really not something that needs to be happening at this point.
I have called for Texas to pull out 7 wins, with a couple of them being pleasant surprises.  I was kind of hoping USC would be one of those.  It just wasn't quite to be.
It won't surprise me in the near future to see our offense have a bang-up game much like our defense did this time.  Herman is overhauling this thing - some days we will fire, some days we will misfire.  And likely not all on the same day when looking at the various phases of the game.
But for now I feel good with what Herman's doing.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 18, 2017, 11:05:49 AM
Having watched 2 games each from both OU and USC this season, I think OU is significantly better than USC.  Oklahoma State might be too, although they haven't played much competition yet.

Anyway, that doesn't mean Texas is DOOOOOMED (although of course we are), because OU was significantly better than Texas in each of the last 3 seasons, and Texas won one of those games, and was very competitive in the other two.  It's a rivalry game, and plays out that way most years.

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 11:34:36 AM
Anyway, that doesn't mean Texas is DOOOOOMED (although of course we are)
I can't tell if serious or if this is what we used to call "anti-woofing" back in the old days.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
Having watched 2 games each from both OU and USC this season, I think OU is significantly better than USC.  Oklahoma State might be too, although they haven't played much competition yet.

Anyway, that doesn't mean Texas is DOOOOOMED (although of course we are), because OU was significantly better than Texas in each of the last 3 seasons, and Texas won one of those games, and was very competitive in the other two.  It's a rivalry game, and plays out that way most years.


if i may, i view these things differently. not that our two vantages don't converge on the field, but that the approach is significant enough to mention.

these guys don't play consistently.  the consistency is what i believe separates good teams from great teams.  for instance, there are no less than five teams that can beat Bama right now if they play at the top of their game and bama plays below.  Bama is consistent.  they have been the measure of that for the last few years.  OU could be said to be consistent- they have the longest active streak right now.  oSu is on fire- and they've decimated opponent's D, but they've come against nobody that is a good measure of how they'd react to true opposition.

now take my boys, UT-k... they've been pushed around for various reasons be it poor play calling, or bad match-ups (talent/skill).  they've still hung tough and though ultimately losing hella more than the law of averages would suggest logical, they always give top teams a go... or seem to... however, they also let lessor teams hang around.  they shouldn't.  they should play with the same tempo-and-intent no matter who is on the field across from them.

what i'm getting at is this:  90+% of the time, it doesn't matter how the other team is playing.  it matters how your team plays. It is rare that two teams bang on all eight cylinders- either they are out of sync (doing damage to themselves) or the other team takes them out of sync.    

if we were to take the body of work and personality of a team both when they're mad and when they're playing for 'fun' and look at it over several games (or a season) you can start to see trends in how they react in certain situations.  it is usually a reflection of the coaching and preparation.  We can say that tOSU is really good until they get slapped really good- and then they start to fold and pack it up... We can say that OU can sustain a slap and come right back at you.  We can say that UT-a doesn't have the talent to bounce back in a game, but has the ability to forget and bonce back the following week.  There isn't a lot we know about oSu except that they can exact their will on offense on teams that simply don't have the ponies- but are one dimensional in-that they don't really stack on defense. (point towards stats here if you will, but i will offer oSu's O removes any semblance of game plan from opposing defenders and OC's alike- they are forced to 'sprint' to try to 'get back in the game', which is a 'game' they are fully unequipped to play; hence, they're easier to stop and oSu's defensive stats look better than they are).....  

so we gauge a team's projected performance based on past performance in a lot of these match-ups, and that is only fair... especially if all things were consistent... OU will beat oSu this year.  UT-a will beat one of them, most likely, (most likely OU) and it's because of how UT-a will approach the game and how they play it, which has nothing to do with OU at all (or, less to do with OU than would casually be expected). 

teams as mentioned are easier for me to see with clarity.  team's like my own (UTk) aren't.  the coaches play 'scared' with at least as much fear as aggression- case in point, and the only thing consistent about my Vols under Jones:  When they're behind, and let it all hang out, they play hellacious ball and can play (inconsistently) with anyone... when they play safe, anyone can beat them.  Texas approached Maryland not to lose, where they approached USCw friggin' hungry.  the difference is astounding on the field and gives people cause to level 'inconsistency' charges.  it's that one minor coaching alteration that will keep you guys alive this season, imHo, and demonstrated by your coach.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 18, 2017, 12:45:20 PM
Its a coach's job to turn a not lose attitude into a Im gonna kick their ass attitude

As DKR said only angry people win football games

I think if USC played OU or Ok St ten times each they would lose 7 out of 10 times

Just MHO
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 12:50:18 PM
.... and that is likely a good assessment... except for that first game, and it's the one that matters.  it's why i say Clemson beat Bama last year when it wouldn't have happened again in four more games... preparation and 'getting your mind right' is what it's all about, and knowing there is one shot and one only is both a blessing and a curse... 'chopping wood' mindset is detrimental when you approach a team that is capable and hungry (ala Bama and Clemson- dyswidt?) playing like there is no tomorrow is hella beneficial for the underdog.... ask USCw about that righ tabout now... they played the skin off their teeth and relied on help from zebras to pull that one out. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 18, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
Ive always made it my position not to complain about the Ref's calls

A Texan complaining about Ref's calls is very funny to our sooner friends

However I will point out that several times our recievers were absolutely mugged

with no call

That sure got old
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 01:32:34 PM
and to ^that :

it's hard for folks to acknowledge their opponents play for some reason... they'll scream about how bad they suck leading into a game, and then act like they accomplished something when they win, or make excuses (most often the zebras) when they lose.  here's the thing: if one team is SO much better than the other, the ref's CAN'T decide the game even if they wanted to without losing their license.  if a team plays another in OT or even to the wire, neither team is significantly better than the other... as a game was played Saturday between yer' boys and USCw, the zebras made bad calls- not with intent to cause a different outcome, but because they simply made a bad call... if UTa was that much better than USCw that they deserved a win there would have been no overtime nor a single possession between them except at one point during the game. 

imHo, what y'all should take away from that loss is "you're good enough to play with the big boys"- and the team should look for that consistency i spoke of.  when they do, and as Keith Jackson used to say "katy, bar the door"  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 18, 2017, 03:30:13 PM
I could second-guess Tim Beck, but why bother?  If IFs and BUTs were candy and nuts, we'd all have a wonderful Christmas.
 
And I could kick Reggie Hemphill-Mapps in the seat of the pants of fielding a punt at the one, not once but twice.
 
But the defense gets my props.

The future looks bright... this week.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 18, 2017, 03:38:42 PM
PS Drew, I'd hate to be the fan of an SEC team and have to put in qualifiers like USCw and UTk.

I'm glad I'm over here in the Big 12 where USC means Southern Cal and the Gamecocks never cross my radar, and where there's hardly ever any UT confusion because Texas is more fun to write or say than UT and if Tennessee ever even came up I'm sure the context would reveal which UT is under discussion.

I've also noticed a lot of SEC boards like to initialize Coach Whatever the Hell His Name Is.  Like it's so important to add the C for coach but so laborious to write out the dude's name.

It's not like that on Texas boards.  We generally mean what we say and say what we mean even if we have to spent five seconds tapping five additional keys.

You SEC people are kind of amusing.  Like a possum in a bathtub kind of amusing.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 03:45:45 PM
playing like there is no tomorrow is hella beneficial for the underdog
Drew is from the bay area?
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 03:47:09 PM
as Keith Jackson used to say "katy, bar the door"  
I preferred "woah Nellie!"
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
PS Drew,
You SEC people are kind of amusing.
Drew said "hella".  He should be castrated and teabagged with his own jewels if he is indeed an SEC fan.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 18, 2017, 04:05:54 PM
He should be castrated and teabagged with his own jewels if he is indeed an SEC fan.
That's a very crude punishment and it sounds messy and like a lot of trouble to go to.
Can't we just bust a chair across his teeth instead.   (A penny for your thoughts if you recognized the song I was channeling with that line).
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 04:16:53 PM
(A penny for your thoughts if you recognized the song I was channeling with that line).
The song is not coming to me, but if it's Neil Young we're fixing to have a utee problem.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 18, 2017, 04:23:34 PM
word

Neil Young sucks almost as much as OU

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 18, 2017, 04:23:49 PM
The song is not coming to me, but if it's Neil Young we're fixing to have a utee problem.
Think Johnny Cash and a certain song that was the biggest hit on the radio during the winter semester of my second grade year.
Key words to jog the memory: booze, giggle, moon and stars, Gatlinburg, mangy dog, snake, scar, evil eye, ear, mule, crocodile
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 18, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
Cinnamon Girl, Cowgirl in the Sand, Harvest Moon, Southern Man, Old Man, Heart of Gold, Candy Mountain, Hey Hey My My

I grew up on Neil Young and Crazy Horse.  I'm going to have to have Cousin Freddy's back on this one.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 04:37:13 PM
Think Johnny Cash and a certain song that was the biggest hit on the radio during the winter semester of my second grade year.
Key words to jog the memory: booze, giggle, moon and stars, Gatlinburg, mangy dog, snake, scar, evil eye, ear, mule, crocodile
And if I ever have son, I'm going to name him....
BILL or GEORGE or anything but.....
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 05:06:17 PM
whut? is 'hella' one of those 'bruh' things to y'all? y'all know what a hill is, right?  now what about a mountain?  One is hella bigger than the other, but.... same concept.  i bet the lot of y'all re crossfitters... i bet even bevo tells every cow he meets #1- he's a steer (and why), and #2, that he crossfits.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 18, 2017, 05:12:21 PM

You SEC people are kind of amusing.  Like a possum in a bathtub kind of amusing.
"possum in a bathtub" sounds like some kind of variation of pigs in a blanket.  
I'm gonna get right to work on that recipe.  Sounds good, whatever it turns out to be.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 05:23:30 PM
whut? is 'hella' one of those 'bruh' things to y'all? y'all know what a hill is, right?  now what about a mountain?  One is hella bigger than the other, but.... same concept.  i bet the lot of y'all re crossfitters... i bet even bevo tells every cow he meets #1- he's a steer (and why), and #2, that he crossfits.  
Just stop.  You said hella.  And no Bevo doesn't crossdress, or whatever the NorCal hell you're talking about.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 05:33:14 PM
Bevo got no balls, yo... bad choice of representation by my reckoning. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on September 18, 2017, 05:36:32 PM
I see we have spun off, but I will state for the record that this was the MOST fun game I have ever attended, and it didn't even matter that we lost. 

That is all. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 18, 2017, 05:49:42 PM
Cinnamon Girl, Cowgirl in the Sand, Harvest Moon, Southern Man, Old Man, Heart of Gold, Candy Mountain, Hey Hey My My

I grew up on Neil Young and Crazy Horse.  I'm going to have to have Cousin Freddy's back on this one.
Your affinity for sucky singers is duly noted.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 18, 2017, 05:50:28 PM
Glad you had a good time, Erin, despite the outcome of the game.

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 05:52:03 PM
Bevo got no balls, yo...
That's so he won't gore little fellers that say hella.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 18, 2017, 06:44:35 PM
so what you're sayin is 'hella' means something derogatory to ball-less animals? 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 18, 2017, 09:52:27 PM
so what you're sayin is 'hella' means something derogatory to ball-less animals?
No, I'm saying it's just stupid.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MarqHusker on September 18, 2017, 10:24:20 PM


Neil Young sucks almost as much as OU


I can get behind the first part of this.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CWSooner on September 18, 2017, 10:34:30 PM
OU is very different from USC, but I'm not convinced at this point they are better.  That was a great, great, performance by the Texas defense.  Yeah, "Not great, Bob" for the O, but I believe the season will vindicate my idea that SC is also one of the best defenses in the country.  Ehlinger is probably the QB now, I'd think.  That kid is gonna be a very good player and win a lot of games at UT.  

I'm feeling better and better about my predictions for Herman at UT.  The improvements from week 1 to week 3 are tangible and glaring.  

I'm not generally one for moral victories, but if there is such a thing as a good loss, that was it.  
Your analysis is suspect, because you also said this:
Quote
This might be a good gauge of how much true progress UT made from week 1 and week 2, and how much was the quality of opponent.  USC looked frighteningly good by the end of the Stanford game.  Not that they demolished them or anything.  But they were consistently and appreciably better, and I think Stanford is a legitimately good team.  

I'm not convinced SC didn't register the actual best win last weekend, despite OU/OSU making all the news.  SC looked as good as I've seen a team look this season.  Texas has their work cut out for them to beat the spread.  I'd be fairly shocked if they pull the upset.
And it seems that, rather than recognizing that you overvalued USC, you are doubling down.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 19, 2017, 01:19:57 AM
Is the CW?

Good to hear from you

Glad you made the journey over to our new forum
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 11:45:33 AM
And if I ever have son, I'm going to name him....
BILL or GEORGE or anything but.....
That's right!
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 19, 2017, 12:02:59 PM
I had some possum in a bathtub for breakfast this morning.  

Needs work.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 19, 2017, 12:13:57 PM
I had some possum in a bathtub for breakfast this morning.  

Needs work.  
Keep working on it.  No need to throw out the possum with the bath water.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 12:14:32 PM
Ugh
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 12:21:53 PM
Bevo got no balls, yo... bad choice of representation by my reckoning.
Seriously?  Do you even know what a mascot is?

Are Albert E and Alberta real alligators?

Do you think the little bitty Sooner Schooner is a full scale representation of what covered wagons used in the Land Rush actually looked like?

Do you imagine that the dude who dresses up as the West Virginia Mountaineer actually carries a rifle loaded with black powder AND ammunition?

Do you imagine that the Trojans who USC pay homage to all carried plastic swords in real life?

Bevo's a mascot like Orbit or Hookem.  A mascot is merely a symbol.  

In the case of Bevo, he may just be a steer but he represents a breed.  

The breed is tough, hardy and indigenous to Texas.  It can prevail in extreme heat, in barren, drought stricken lands.  It's an amazing creature and a wonderful symbol for Texas, whose earliest settlers also endured a harsh and hostile environment.

Ever been around cattle?   The docile nature you see from a distance belies a danger that comes from their enormous weight and light-footed lateral quickness in small places.  Bulls possess power and ferocity.   You know the running of the bulls in Spain that has killed a couple of dozen people over the years?  That breed of bull was part of the ancestral makeup of the longhorn.  Ever seen a longhorn up close?  Those horns can run 7 feet from tip to tip.

Ever google death by longhorn or people killed by longhorns.  Yeah, despite people pretty much leaving them the hell alone and giving them vast acreage to themselves, longhorns still manage to kill a person every few years, by goring them or trampling them.

Longhorns are not be trifled with.  Bevo has to be snipped and drugged.  It's the only responsible thing to do.  Can you imagine the havoc a full-sized longhorn bull would wreak in a stadium of 100,000 people?


Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 12:28:09 PM
MarqHusker?  CWSooner?

I wish this were a bar instead a board.  I'd buy a round.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 19, 2017, 12:28:36 PM
Speaking of Longhorns and goring, several years ago some kids were running around on the Texas Tech campus in the middle of the night.  One kid ran smack straight into a Longhorn statue and was gored to death.

So even the statues are fearsome.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 19, 2017, 12:32:36 PM
Seriously?  Do you even know what a mascot is?

Are Albert E and Alberta real alligators?

Do you think the little bitty Sooner Schooner is a full scale representation of what covered wagons used in the Land Rush actually looked like?

Do you imagine that the dude who dresses up as the West Virginia Mountaineer actually carries a rifle loaded with black powder AND ammunition?

Do you imagine that the Trojans who USC pay homage to all carried plastic swords in real life?

Bevo's a mascot like Orbit or Hookem.  A mascot is merely a symbol.  

In the case of Bevo, he may just be a steer but he represents a breed.  

The breed is tough, hardy and indigenous to Texas.  It can prevail in extreme heat, in barren, drought stricken lands.  It's an amazing creature and a wonderful symbol for Texas, whose earliest settlers also endured a harsh and hostile environment.

Ever been around cattle?   The docile nature you see from a distance belies a danger that comes from their enormous weight and light-footed lateral quickness in small places.  Bulls possess power and ferocity.   You know the running of the bulls in Spain that has killed a couple of dozen people over the years?  That breed of bull was part of the ancestral makeup of the longhorn.  Ever seen a longhorn up close?  Those horns can run 7 feet from tip to tip.

Every google death by longhorn or people killed by longhorns.  Yeah, despite people pretty much leaving them the hell alone and giving them vast acreage to themselves, longhorns still manage to kill a person every few years, by goring them or trampling them.

Longhorns are not be trifled with.  Bevo has to be snipped and drugged.  It's the only responsible thing to do.  Can you imagine the havoc a full-sized longhorn bull would wreak in a stadium of 100,000 people?



but still, he lacks balls.... coulda' offered up a Bull of the same species, but nope... one without balls and a case of arse with folks who say 'hella'... that's hella strange if'n you ask me. :38:
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 12:35:14 PM
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What seems to be missing from this allegedly male dog?   Are we to assume that the entire purpose of this mascot is to point out that the state of Tennessee and the people there in are emasculated?   Are we to grin and giggle and act like school children because of this shocking discovery?

Sheesh. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 12:40:21 PM
Could've had a dog with testicles.  It's not like you have to worry about bluetick coonhound trampling and goring people.  

I guess being neutered just better represents Tennessee.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 19, 2017, 12:41:22 PM
Are we to grin and giggle and act like school children...
Well maybe not, but we are quite good at it.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 19, 2017, 12:47:36 PM
while y'all are taking shots at poor ol' smokey, I'm far more concerned with whateverthehell that is running beyond him partially in the frame... don't mess with crazy folk, y'all.  balls or no balls. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on September 19, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Speaking of Longhorns and goring, several years ago some kids were running around on the Texas Tech campus in the middle of the night.  One kid ran smack straight into a Longhorn statue and was gored to death.

So even the statues are fearsome.
I was gonna laugh at this, and looked it up to see if it were true, but it wasn't even a student.  It was a 14 yr old playing hide-and-seek at 3 am, and I'm not gonna lie, that sounds like something I would have done.   I have def played "hide and seek" in the nighttime with other stoners, and I am sometimes accident prone.   Usually I enjoy seeing the bull win in a bullfight, but kind of a different story when the bull isn't real.   ~???
I'm shocked I had not heard this story before today, but Houston rarely covers West Texas news since we have our own daily death stories that never end in our little corner of the state. 
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 19, 2017, 01:48:10 PM
Makes me wonder if our tigers are neutered or not.  As far as I know, LSU has been involved with the conservation and captive breeding efforts in order to help get the population of the world's tigers back up, so I'd think not.  But I have no clue.  

Maybe they only say they are helping the world's tigers, but really are just housing overgrown nutless wildcats so UGA fans can peddle BS stories about bulldogs scaring them.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
Oh great, now this has become the freaking SEC mascot thread.  Great.

My goodness people.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on September 19, 2017, 02:21:14 PM
Oh great, now this has become the freaking SEC mascot thread.  Great.

My goodness people.
RIGHT!?  Best game of the season (so far) and THIS is what we have up in here?? 
:smiley_confused1:
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
When did Junior assume the cranky, get off my lawn, old man role?

Jeez.  Go drink your milk of magnesium, grandpa.

What more can you say about Texas at USC.   Texas went.  It looked like a pretty evening.  The defense stepped up so we're tempted to turn a blind eye to other, lingering problems.  It was an interesting game.  The Notre Dame game last year was interesting.  The OU game the year before was interesting.  The UCLA game the year before that was interesting.  The OU game the year before that was interesting.  Texas has interesting games from time to time.  

They have maddening games too.

Today it looks like our finger is in the dyke plugging up the defensive woes.

The special teams hole is still leaking.

The offensive hole is gushing.

There are players on the team who have played for Shawn Watson, Jay Norvelle, Sterlin Gilbert and now Tim Beck.  Heard to Burt used to be a great weapon.  Buechele to Duvernay used to be a great weapon.  Ehlinger to Johnson is a great weapon.  I'd try every one of those at least once per game.  I'd use the pass to set up the run.  I'd put Warren in the wildcat on short yardage.  I'd put Lil Jordan in the widcat too.  I'd throw everything at the wall.

But special teams are still atrocious.  And why is returning a freshman job?  Why can't anybody ever grow and learn?  Where's Boyd and Duvernay?

Bleh.  The glass is still half empty.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 19, 2017, 03:19:43 PM
I posted my thoughts on the game and was reprimanded for my opinion on football teams.

I abandoned that in favor of following the thread where it had wandered--a trait I'm pretty sure I learned from the Big 12 crowd--yet this too seems to be incorrect.  

Tough room.  

By all means, get back to discussing the goring of teenagers, your favorite piss-tasting beers, and the debatable quality of Neil Young.  It's just riveting.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: longhorn320 on September 19, 2017, 03:25:10 PM
I posted my thoughts on the game and was reprimanded for my opinion on football teams.

I abandoned that in favor of following the thread where it had wandered--a trait I'm pretty sure I learned from the Big 12 crowd--yet this too seems to be incorrect.  

Tough room.  

By all means, get back to discussing the goring of teenagers, your favorite piss-tasting beers, and the debatable quality of Neil Young.  It's just riveting.  
Hey man dont let ol CW yank your chain
Hes kinda like a total eclipse in that he only comes around once in 100 Years or so
I do miss him though and wish he was posting here more often
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 03:59:13 PM
Don't be so sensative MDT.   You're liable to be accused of being a closet Texican.

Oh wait!

:)
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: BrownCounty on September 19, 2017, 04:38:03 PM
By all means, get back to discussing the goring of teenagers, your favorite piss-tasting beers, and the debatable quality of Neil Young.  It's just riveting.  
New forum.  Same cranky ass bastages.  And carry on we shall.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: CharleyHorse46 on September 19, 2017, 05:32:58 PM
New forum.  Same cranky ass bastages.  And carry on we shall.
Reminds me of the nine circles of hell in Dante's Inferno.

At the core we have a football discussion, specific to a certain game.  Around that we have discussion about what the outcome of that game foretells about the future of one of the team's involved.  Ringing that we have an indictment of the word "hella," surrounded by an essay on the importance or unimportance of testicles on mascots and the possumeness of SEC fans.  Then come the outer circles of complaint.  Complaint about how the topic has evolved.  Complaint about general complaining.  Complaint about the last complainer.  Complaint about people who complain about complainers.

Like ripples in a pond.

Or a tub.  Filled with possums.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: Drew4UTk on September 19, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
Longhorns are not be trifled with.  Bevo has to be snipped and drugged.  It's the only responsible thing to do.  Can you imagine the havoc a full-sized longhorn bull would wreak in a stadium of 100,000 people?
why is it I thought of "Any which way but loose" when I read this?  
"we'ze black widders... didju know black widders killed more people just last year than rattlers?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkCQjxJI4Y
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 11:47:46 PM
Just as a point of order, the movies were "Every Which Way But Loose" and "Any Which Way You Can."


Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 19, 2017, 11:49:48 PM
Reminds me of the nine circles of hell in Dante's Inferno.

At the core we have a football discussion, specific to a certain game.  Around that we have discussion about what the outcome of that game foretells about the future of one of the team's involved.  Ringing that we have an indictment of the word "hella," surrounded by an essay on the importance or unimportance of testicles on mascots and the possumeness of SEC fans.  Then come the outer circles of complaint.  Complaint about how the topic has evolved.  Complaint about general complaining.  Complaint about the last complainer.  Complaint about people who complain about complainers.

Like ripples in a pond.

Or a tub.  Filled with possums.
Well, hell yeah.  This post is perfect.
I sure wish my old friend JCG were around to see it.  Or my dear pal Hooky Hornstein.  I'm pretty sure both of those guys would appreciate the circular symmetry found here.
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2017, 12:53:31 PM
A closet Texican?  I thought it was well known that I am a lifelong Horn fan, first and foremost, for all my born days, all the way back to the 50's when I was a little girl going to games with my papa, watching the Price/Royal teams enact bovine justice on all heathen comers.  


For clarity's sake, since tone and intent are so hard to come by on the Webz, it's not sensitivity.  Never that.  Something like that should always be read with an underpinning of derision and a hint of scorn.  Texans, and to a lesser extent, the core Big 12 posters are kind of the perfect outlet for my inner schmuck.  Unlike nearly everybody else on the planet, you guys can be demeaned, ridiculed, mocked, and jeered with virtual impunity, because you don't care.  You're that arrogant.  Who cares what some interloper says?  Certainly not you.  Nobody here cares what I think, and it frees me up to say whatever crosses my mind without filter.  If I act wrongfully, it's a victimless crime.  It's beautiful.  You're like Piers Anthony's minionettes, who thrive on abuse and recoil at overtures of friendship.  


You're really the perfect group of people for a jackass like me.  

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2017, 02:31:26 PM
Well, thanks.  I guess.

Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2017, 02:33:43 PM
Speaking of Texas arrogance, and the Texas-USC thread, I'd like to hear about Erin's encounters with fans of the University of Spoiled Children.  Were they more, or less, arrogant than us Texicans.

I was sorely disappointed in our fanbase when I heard accounts of our interactions with Michigan fans at the Rose Bowl in 2005.  Seems they out-arroganced us, and by a pretty healthy margin.  I didn't think that was possible but, well, there you have it.

I'm wondering how the Spoiled Children did, arrogance-wise, on their home turf?
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: MikeDeTiger on September 20, 2017, 04:59:19 PM
S'probably why Vince ran amok on them.  He probably felt he had to defend his fans' honor re: arrogance with rushing yards.  
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: UT-Erin03 on September 20, 2017, 05:51:48 PM
To be honest, there were more longhorn fans around me than trojan fans, so thankfully I only experienced Texas arrogance. 
Really, the crowd felt 50/50 and I was quite surprised that most of my entire section was wearing orange with only a handful of red among the masses.  I really think we may have outnumbered them but I don't know how that can really be gauged other than perception from where I sat. 

Anyhow, the friends I met up with prior to the game included a USC fan but he was super friendly, gave us free wine, and got us super stoned.  I have absolutely NO complaints with that!  :)
Title: Re: Texas at USC
Post by: utee94 on September 20, 2017, 07:00:56 PM
Well, you gotta have goals, I guess!