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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: Hawkinole on December 03, 2017, 11:01:03 PM
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Unethusiastically, I will start this thread.
Ferentz hasn't had a bowl win, since after the 2010 season, and it was barely a win, 27-24, over Missouri in the Insight Bowl.
Boston College is a pretty good 7-5 team. It has wins over NIU, Louisville, and a 35-3 drubbing of FSU.
A bowl win was important coming into this season, but I can't say that was the reason Iowa allowed Wisconsin to blacktop them into the cold weather lower-obscurity bowl.
New York is a fun town, especially around New Years. If I didn't have plans to warm my butt in the Bahamas and on Grand Cayman, I might have considered freezing my butt onto a cold plastic seat.
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AJ Dillon is a MANchildbeast.
Looking forward to seeing Iowa defense vs him.
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I'd really like to see "bad loss Iowa" drub someone else out of relevancy, BC is the only opportunity you have to that to someone other than my Buckeyes.
Go Hawks.
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Maybe this is just marketing, but when I look at what bowls I'm going to watch, I typically look for the number in front of the name and start there, I wonder if ESPN placed their computer ranking, FPI, sargain or whatever rating in front of the game it would garner more interests ?
A lot of Tennis tournaments only rank the top half of the bracket, I bet if ESPN did this it would garner more interests on the top half bowls.
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The only thing interesting about Boston College to Iowa fans is that Iowa's former LB coach is now the DC for BC.
When Jim Ried was the LB coach at Iowa back in 2013, all 3 of his stating LB ended up in the NFL. Also he really helped mentor Iowa DC Phil Parker and help introduce some innovative schemes like the Raider package.
Of course, given Iowa's predictable offense, Jim Ried probably already has a plan to stop Iowa's offense.
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I just hope Iowa's bowl slide stops this season. BC isn't dog poo, but it's certainly beatable. I believe Iowa's even a slight favorite out the gate.
That said, Iowa's last 5 bowl trips have not been kind. Not only have they been all losses, not a single one of them was really competitive (the 2013-14 Outback Bowl was a one-score victory for LSU, but Iowa never threatened them). The average score was 34-15. Not good.
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The only thing interesting about Boston College to Iowa fans is that Iowa's former LB coach is now the DC for BC.
When Jim Ried was the LB coach at Iowa back in 2013, all 3 of his stating LB ended up in the NFL. Also he really helped mentor Iowa DC Phil Parker and help introduce some innovative schemes like the Raider package.
Of course, given Iowa's predictable offense, Jim Ried probably already has a plan to stop Iowa's offense.
Didn't know Ried was the author of the Raider defense, which I haven't seen in 2017. It was effective when Iowa put it to use in past years, and it is confusing to O-Linemen.
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Didn't know Ried was the author of the Raider defense, which I haven't seen in 2017. It was effective when Iowa put it to use in past years, and it is confusing to O-Linemen.
Well, I don"t actually know who came up with the Raider package. I just know that Ried and Parker worked well together and I assumed they were sharing ideas and probably came up with it together. And yes its gone by 2017, because teams figured out how to exploit it, but it worked great in 2013 at the time.
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Jules Yakapovich is the credited author of the "Radar" defense. Which is essentially the same as the "Raider" package Iowa used. It's been around since the 70's.
I agree w/Fezz that Reid knows our runs schemes well and knows how to defend them. Our route trees have changed (GD --> BF) since the time he was here, though.
Overall, BC is surging. Both their O and D have improved greatly over the last half of the season.
If Iowa can run the ball and defend the run, they'll be in great shape. The exact same thing can be said for BC.
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Who would win between a Hawk and a Bald Eagle, within the confines of the Animal Kingdom?
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Bald eagle, no question.
But Hawkeyes aren't birds, they're badass sharpshooters during the colonial days (and definitely NOT goofy Army medics in the 1950s)
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Oh. Well if the sharpshooters shoot at the Bald Eagles, they will lock them up and throw away the key.
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The winner will depend solely upon nonfootball factors, such as, who delivered papers in the freezing cold as children, and whose fingers freeze and splinter into pieces last.
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let's go HAWKS
ground and pound the ACC
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Moral victories suck, but Iowa needs to actually try today. I don't want them to stay on the bus and lose by 17+ yet again.
If they don't want to be there, then they need to decline bowl invites and let someone who really wants to be there play instead.
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I think Delaney wants the bowl revenue
or is it a bowl where the expenses eat up all the $$$
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Usually Iowa travels very well, but this year seems to be the exception. I don't think Iowa has even come close to selling out their allotted tickets (to be fair, I don't think BC will bring a lot either) so expect to see thousands and thousands of empty seats tonight.
The bowl payout is decent (4.2M) so it should be enough to cover expenses, but I wouldn't be shocked if Iowa ultimately ended up in the red when it's all said and done.
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Flying to NYC this time of year doesn't appeal to this Iowan at all
much rather drive to Shreveport and play golf
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Big swing around halftime. BC had all the momentum with a 7 point lead, a shanked punt and the ball to start the second half.
Missed a FG and went three and out to open the second half, Iowa came right down and tied it up.
Dillon was limping around quite a bit, and had nothing left in the second half. Ballgame.
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Great to start Bowl season 1-0!
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yup, good win for the Hawks and the B1G
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I'm glad Iowa righted the ship and got a bowl win. No, it's not like winning the Rose or even the Capital One/Citrus bowl, but hey, I'll take it. Gives the Hawks some additional positive momentum going into the offseason.
I'm not going to lie, late in the 2nd quarter, when BC was moving the ball at will, I thought to myself, "here we go again, this is going to be yet another bowl blowout". Then Iowa made some of the best second-half defensive adjustments I've seen all year - they really bottled up AJ Dillon and effectively the BC offense. Their offense wasn't great by any stretch, but it did just enough to move the chains when they had to.
I wouldn't be surprised if some of the team's leaders stepped up at halftime and told their teammates to find their motors and crank it up another gear. The upperclassmen (seniors, especially) I'm sure are sick and tired of all the ugly bowl performances and saw this as their opportunity to snap that skid and give next year's squad something to build on.
Good win. BC is a pretty fair team (I'd wager they're one of the 40 best teams in the country or so) - not unlike Iowa actually with sound defense and emphasis on the run game.
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I am sorry. This bowl needs to be gone from the Big Ten bowl lineup.
Playing in an expensive cold-weather city in a baseball stadium not built for cold weather is just an awful idea.
The frozen field in this year's game was just an terible surface to play on. Both teams were slipping and sliding all ovee. Who's idea was this? Even if the Big Ten insists on playing in New York, why not insisting on an NFL stadium with heated coils? Delaney needs to be better next time.
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I am sorry. This bowl needs to be gone from the Big Ten bowl lineup.
Playing in an expensive cold-weather city in a baseball stadium not built for cold weather is just an awful idea.
The frozen field in this year's game was just an terible surface to play on. Both teams were slipping and sliding all ovee. Who's idea was this? Even if the Big Ten insists on playing in New York, why not insisting on an NFL stadium with heated coils? Delaney needs to be better next time.
I'd suggest the field didn't hurt Iowa as much as people would state. If anything, it shrank the width of the field, making this a fight in a phone booth, which I think Iowa was set up to win this year. They were very physical at the point of attack.
I'm not a fan of the NY bowl either. My wife and I both talked about the expense of NY if Nebraska ever ended up in that bowl. Ultimately, she'd go to see the Holiday lights, but the layout doesn't appear to be fan friendly. I'm not against northern bowls.. in fact, I'd like to see more of them. But a converted baseball field and bad seats for fans makes this a very unappealing bowl game.
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If Delaney is insistent on NYC, fine. But that game should be in a football stadium where they can actually play a cold weather game, not that mess.
NYC may or may not be a selling point, but is new Yankee Stadium any more of a selling point than MetLife Field? If it is, go during the summer and catch a Yankees game.
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If Delaney is insistent on NYC, fine. But that game should be in a football stadium where they can actually play a cold weather game, not that mess.
NYC may or may not be a selling point, but is new Yankee Stadium any more of a selling point than MetLife Field? If it is, go during the summer and catch a Yankees game.
Well Big Jim just has to move the B1G Baseball Tournament to Yankee Stadium.
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Well Big Jim just has to move the B1G Baseball Tournament to Yankee Stadium.
I'm sure he'd love to play the basketball tournament there too.
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Congrats to Iowa. Great adjustments for the second half.
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Been with family, so I haven't been on much.
If the NCAA is to take concussions seriously, this bowl must end. You can no longer put players on a frozen field and not expect to open yourself up to liability at some point down the line. That's the school, the conference, the bowl admin, the NCAA. They all have the moral responsibility to speak up. When that happens, I'll begin to believe that any of the above parties take player health seriously.
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some of the hardest hits were players slipping on their own and hitting the frozen tundra