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Title: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkeye0111 on July 27, 2017, 10:26:10 AM
Iowa just added a second graduate transfer with WR Matt Quarells from New Mexico.  He is originally from St. Louis, so Iowa kind of makes sense.  From Iowa's perspective, he will have the second most college career catches of any WR on the team behind Matt Vandeberg.  His stats from New Mexico are not impressive, but they primarily run a triple option offense, so that would not really be expected.  He does appear to have some speed based on his HS track numbers.  He is also a two-year grad transfer player, as he redshirted and graduated in three years from New Mexico.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: fezzador on July 27, 2017, 11:28:24 AM
Iowa needs all the help they can get at wideout.  Quarells is a former 3-star prospect and has FBS experience and had several P5 offers (Illinois, Indiana, Mizzou, & Purdue).  I expect he'll be able to contribute right away.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: LittlePig on July 27, 2017, 01:04:48 PM
Sounds like the type of WR that gets thrown to deep once or twice a game, and might end up with 1 or 2 TD's over the entire season.  But that's ok.  That's better than Iowa having no deep threats which seemed to be Iowa's problem in 2016.

His numbers were low at New Mexico partly because Bob Davie runs a run-first option attack.  But maybe that means he already knows how to block for running plays, which would make KF very happy.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on July 27, 2017, 02:16:31 PM
Sounds like the type of WR that gets thrown to deep once or twice a game, and might end up with 1 or 2 TD's over the entire season.  But that's ok.  That's better than Iowa having no deep threats which seemed to be Iowa's problem in 2016.


Hey, GD Greg Davis is gone!
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on July 28, 2017, 12:12:05 AM
This addition has to help.

In the spring game, the quarterbacking looked as bad as the receivers, whilst the offensive line was putting up the best pass protection I have seen at Iowa in quite a while. Maybe Iowa can finish 4th in the division, after all.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: fezzador on July 28, 2017, 10:38:07 AM
I'm surprised that Stanley hasn't really separated himself further from the rest of the pack.  From the brief glimpses I saw of him last season, he certainly has some potential.

Of course, even the best QBs need targets besides RBs and TEs to throw to.

My guess is that Iowa's passing game is next to non-existent for much of September, but becomes at least serviceable during conference play.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on August 14, 2017, 02:19:17 AM
CJ Beathard may have been more important to Iowa football than what it seemed in 2016. He had quite a debut at the pro level.  http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/26254/c-j-beathard-poised-in-preseason-debut-taking-aim-at-no-2-qb-job (http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/26254/c-j-beathard-poised-in-preseason-debut-taking-aim-at-no-2-qb-job)
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 14, 2017, 09:03:28 AM
Rudock looked good too.  He looks like a legit NFL #2 QB.  Who knew in 2014 that Iowa had two NFL QBs on the roster?
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 14, 2017, 10:58:46 AM
now the question is:


do they have 1 NFL QB on the roster now?
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: fezzador on August 14, 2017, 01:10:47 PM
Well considering there are effectively only 60-80 active QB's at any one time in the NFL, probably not.

Besides, what a QB does in college has next to no bearing on his NFL career.  Lots of terrific college QBs either wash out after a couple of years, or don't make it to the NFL at all.  Conversely, there are also QBs that get next to no collegiate recognition who become All Pros (i.e. Tom Brady).
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on August 15, 2017, 12:52:25 AM
Rudock looked good too.  He looks like a legit NFL #2 QB.  Who knew in 2014 that Iowa had two NFL QBs on the roster?

I didn't see that until you posted it. I didn't think Rudock had it in him. He is a bright young guy; but I considered him a very average NCAA QB. Maybe FBS Top 65-70 QB.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on August 15, 2017, 12:54:04 AM
now the question is:


do they have 1 NFL QB on the roster now?


In spring ball it didn't appear as they had a legitimate FCS starting QB, but Saturday it appeared Nathan Stanley was amping up his credentials.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: LittlePig on August 21, 2017, 02:08:22 PM
Iowa did not get a single vote in the preseason AP top 25 poll.  Iowa is officially on nobody's radar this year.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: FearlessF on August 21, 2017, 02:58:23 PM
they will be if they upset Penn St.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: fezzador on August 22, 2017, 12:50:45 PM
Iowa did not get a single vote in the preseason AP top 25 poll.  Iowa is officially on nobody's radar this year.

Good.  The less attention, the better.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: ELA on August 28, 2017, 12:43:41 PM
I'm surprised that Stanley hasn't really separated himself further from the rest of the pack.  From the brief glimpses I saw of him last season, he certainly has some potential.

Of course, even the best QBs need targets besides RBs and TEs to throw to.

My guess is that Iowa's passing game is next to non-existent for much of September, but becomes at least serviceable during conference play.
Stanley named the starter
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Preseason Thread
Post by: ELA on September 12, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
Adam RittenbergESPN Staff Writer

Iowa offensive tackle Ike Boettger will miss 4-6 months after  injuring the Achilles' tendon in his right leg in last week's game against Iowa State. Veteran Sean Welsh, who started Iowa's first two games at right guard and has 37 career starts, is expected to slide over to right tackle. Boettger's injury creates quite a lot of line shuffling for the Hawkeyes.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 12, 2017, 04:19:42 PM
was it really necessary to post the pic?
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: ELA on September 12, 2017, 04:49:19 PM
Heh, I just copied the whole post from ESPN
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 14, 2017, 12:53:01 AM
This was a good O-Line, but has been hurt by injuries this season. Boettger's loss will be felt, but if Boone Myers gets back to full-strength, and with James Daniels back at center, I think this will still be an excellent line, in time, provided there are no other injuries. One more injury and they will start to struggle.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: fezzador on September 14, 2017, 07:57:46 AM
There's a chance the NCAA may grant Boettger a medical grayshirt and give him one more season of eligibility, but after what happened with Drew Ott a couple of years ago, it's not very likely.  He might not even appeal based on the previous decision.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: PSUinNC on September 14, 2017, 09:38:20 AM
they will be if they upset Penn St.
Game scares the bejeezies out of me.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 14, 2017, 06:53:23 PM
There's a chance the NCAA may grant Boettger a medical grayshirt and give him one more season of eligibility, but after what happened with Drew Ott a couple of years ago, it's not very likely.  He might not even appeal based on the previous decision.
Drew Ott's case was very questionable if you look at the terms of the medical red shirt rule.
Boettger's case for a red shirt is very clear, provided he does not somehow try to come back and play this season. You can play in no more three games or no more than 30% of the maximum number of games for the season (whichever is greater), and not after the halfway point of the season. Problem with Ott's case is that he played parts of six games.

He injured his elbow against Iowa State. He played in the North Texas game, when he should probably should have sat, as they didn't need him in that game. But then Iowa didn't know he would tear his ACL in Game 6, and Drew Ott wanted to play.

Ed Cunningham made a point about Iowa playing Beathard in a bowl game when he appeared injured, and not very mobile. Iowa played Drew Ott after he dislocated an elbow, and wasn't nearly full strength in the North Texas game. Iowa played Rudock a few years ago in a bowl game when he was getting hammered and his mobility was impaired. Iowa isn't the only one. Ohio State played Braxton Miller when he was injured in a bowl game, and it appeared to no good end, and the following season he was unable to play QB after he was hammered repeatedly in their bowl game. They wouldn't take him out, even though they had a competent 2nd string senior QB. I don't know if Miller's injuries in the bowl game sidelined him for the next year, or not.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on September 16, 2017, 12:45:13 AM
Here are the kids you're waving at during Kinnick's new tradition

I am waxing sappy. http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/2017/09/15/these-are-the-kids-youre-waving-at-kinnick-stadium-iowa-hawkeyes-football-fans-ui-childrens-hospital/667855001/
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: FearlessF on September 16, 2017, 09:31:38 AM
very nice
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: CatsbyAZ on October 08, 2017, 07:50:02 AM
Who else is up for grading Iowa's first half of the season a B?

The 0-2 conference start had to disappoint, but it turns out those two losses are against the BIG 10's best looking team and a much better than expected Michigan State team. The Hawkeyes took care of the typical FCS bear traps and the rivalry win over Iowa State looks a lot better today. And they turned on the burners in the second half yesterday. Vs lowly Illinois Kinnick looked/sounded lively on TV.

All in all looks like Iowa is gearing way for another Vs SEC bowl. Iowa Vs Kentucky in the Music City Bowl rings nicely. I know 8-5 is purgatory under Ferentz, but man, how many programs out there might be willing to bankrupt their athletic departments for 8 wins/yr? Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Cal, UVA, Syracuse, Kansas, Wake? Not to mention my school in Tucson?

Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: LittlePig on October 08, 2017, 08:14:42 AM
I would give it a C+

Iowa will still not be ranked this week.  
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: iahawk15 on October 08, 2017, 08:45:01 AM
While 4-2 isn't the end of the world, I'd give them a straight C at this point.

Worse than expected:
O-Line. Yes, the expected line-up didn't start a single game together, but this line looks very average. Bright spot has been RS FR Jackson at LT. He's solid.

D-Line. Our DC was gushing over this line in the pre-season, and there is depth there to rotate, but there is also zero pass rush and they're not exactly formidable against the run.

Secondary. This one wasn't expected to be an area of strength, but nobody back there has excelled.

Question marks that proved to be true concerns:
QB. Efficient at times, makes mostly good short-to-intermediate passes. No touch on deep ball, has missed no less than 7 TD bombs in 6 games. Only 2 picks on the year, but fumbled 5(?) times.

Punter. We didn't know what to expect, and my god, it's been bad.

Better than expected:
Kicker.

WR? They're an upgrade over previous years, but still not striking a lot of fear in opposing secondaries.

About as expected:
TE. Good, not great.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2017, 12:24:28 AM
A few noteworthy observations:

Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: fezzador on October 23, 2017, 10:01:44 AM
In the meantime, ISU has snatched "best team in the state" away from Iowa.  Glad we played them when we did, because Iowa State would probably destroy Iowa if they played this weekend.

That said, lots of growing pains this year.  The defense is holding its own, but probably doing a little too much "bending" for my liking.  Part of the reason why Iowa stinks on offense is that they tend to start with piss-poor field position.  It's hard to score points when your offense has 85+ yards of green a significant percentage of the time.  Poor execution and all-around sloppiness are just two more ingredients to a pretty pathetic recipe.

And it's maddening because at the very least, the passing game is showing some potential.  Stanley *finally* connected on a deep pass, and the pass protection is definitely improved.  They are still way too reliant on the run when it clearly is not working this year - if Iowa is going to have any chance of hanging with teams like Wisconsin or OSU, they need to start chucking it early and often and hope it opens up the run game.  They just can't run the ball 60% of the time this year.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2017, 01:24:27 PM
That's right Fezzador.

Going forward, Iowa has to throw on first down with regularity.

Iowa State's recruiting has picked up too. They have a 4* and lots of 3*s. Usually they are intermingling quite a few 2* players. Iowa State probably turned the corner, more or less, permanently, unless Matt Campbell is siphoned off to a school like Tennessee, or Nebraska.

Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: fezzador on October 23, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
Talk about pulling the cart before the horse.  Campbell is definitely making serious progress in Ames, but they could easily fizzle out and finish 6-6.  (yes, being bowl-eligible is an accomplishment at ISU but the media pundits are anointing him CFB's next 'golden boy').

His accomplishments may not even come close to rivaling KF's, but his brand of football is a helluva lot more exciting to watch.
Title: Re: Iowa 2017 Season Thread
Post by: Hawkinole on October 23, 2017, 06:35:44 PM
ISU has a rough waters ahead:

TCU
West Virginia
Oklahoma St
Baylor
K-State

Baylor is 0-7. Each of the other schools could very well beat Iowa State, and they could finish 6-6. I was looking at a 3-4 win season for them at the start of the year. Bowl eligibility is now probable. It is a turn around.