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The Power Five => Big Ten => Topic started by: medinabuckeye1 on December 01, 2017, 10:40:59 AM
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I was looking at the schedule on the Worldwide Leader's site and noticed something that surprised me. These are the lowest ticket prices according to their partner, Vividseats for the P5 CG's:
- $115 ACCCG: #1 Clemson vs #7 Miami, BoA Stadium, Charlotte, NC.
- $92 B12CG: #3 Oklahoma vs #11 TCU, AT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX.
- $74 B1GCG: #4 Wisconsin vs #8 Ohio State, Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis, IN.
- $46 SECCG: #2 Auburn vs #6 Georgia, Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, GA.
- $20 P12CG: #10 USC vs #12 Stanford, Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, CA.
I'm frankly shocked at how low the SECCG tickets are and how high the ACCCG tickets are. UGA and Auburn are both driving distance from Atlanta and both have lots of fans and legitimate playoff aspirations. Miami has no fans and is probably a day's drive from Charlotte so the entire price of the ACCCG tickets is most likely supported by Clemson fans alone.
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probably take those prices and cut them in half if you walk up to the stadium with cash 30 minutes before kick
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Your data is wrong medina. You're missing a digit behind the 42 for the sec.
Get in the door price on stub hub now is 425.
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I see that the data is wrong but that is on ESPN.
On their site right now (schedule) next to the SECCG it says "298 tickets from $68" but then when you click that link the starting price is $424. So apparently I can't trust the numbers on ESPN's schedule and I have to actually click the link for each game. Then you get this:
- $424, SECCG
- $120, ACCCG
- $93, B12CG
- $77, B1GCG
- $20, P12CG
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That makes more sense. SEC is the one conference that fully gets behind it. Kind of like the ACC and their hoops tourney, or the Big Ten and the Rose Bowl. It's kind of weird how the value or certain postseason event swings so drastically on a conference basis
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I've attended all the BIG title games, until this year. Iowa v MSU, was the hardest and most expensive for me to scalp. Only UW v N was a significant discount. Other games stayed right near face or slightly over. I haven't shopped for nosebleeds.
Edit, how did I forget last year, GopherRock and I worked over some guys for decent seats last year at about half face. Game was still well attended just good supply by overzealous buckeye fan.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-heads-in-wrong-direction-with-largest-attendance-drop-in-34-years/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-heads-in-wrong-direction-with-largest-attendance-drop-in-34-years/)
better to be on the bottom of this chart
Power Five average attendance changes
CONFERENCE 2017 2016 DIFFERENCE CHANGE
SEC 75,704 77,507 -2,433 -3.14%
ACC 48,442 49,734 -1,292 -2.59%
Big 12 56,852 57,531 -679 -1.12%
Pac-12 49,601 50,073 -472 -0.09%
Big Ten 66,227 66,151 76 0.01%
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I'd guess attendance at Tenn, Florida, and A&M were down pretty hard later in the year.
Actually, the last Gator home game had decent attendance against UAB, at least announced ticket sales of almost 85K.
The stands may not have shown that, but the figure that counts does.
Tenn had announced attendance of nearly 96 K for Southern Miss in November.
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https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-heads-in-wrong-direction-with-largest-attendance-drop-in-34-years/ (https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-heads-in-wrong-direction-with-largest-attendance-drop-in-34-years/)
better to be on the bottom of this chart
Power Five average attendance changes
CONFERENCE 2017 2016 DIFFERENCE CHANGE
SEC 75,704 77,507 -2,433 -3.14%
ACC 48,442 49,734 -1,292 -2.59%
Big 12 56,852 57,531 -679 -1.12%
Pac-12 49,601 50,073 -472 -0.09%
Big Ten 66,227 66,151 76 0.01%
I read somewhere that Purdue was up in attendance by 12K or so per game. Some of the other B1G schools must have been down to end up about even as a conference.
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I know Kinnick is finishing refurbishing parts of the stadium
are seats being added?
The Huskers have actually removed some numbers by making the seats wider
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Not sure about Iowa. PSU is reducing the number of seats, I believe, but I'm not sure if that happened yet.
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Huskers will be WAY up in spring practice tickets sold!
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Iowa is decreasing capacity about 1,000 - 1,500 down to around 69,000.
The schools are more interested in profits than in attracting fans. This is an excellent mid-term strategy. In the long haul, over a 10-year time frame, after these administrators are gone, I am not so sure.
Michigan had a 100,000 seat stadium for years that usually seated in the Mid-70,000s. Perhaps they couldn't maximize ticket prices, but in the longer term they maximized fans and revenues. We have a 24-hour news cycle. We have a 5-year outlook on stadium refurbishments because they think the next one will be in 10-years after the last one, and the administrators seek to look good in their tenure only.
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Iowa's 4-part stadium, which I think looks like an abomination, is now an advantage. Iowa never has to replace the stadium. They can replace one part at a time, and capitalize the cost for individual parts.
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I preferred the old daze when real fans showed up to watch the game
regardless of amenities or perks or other things to hold their attention
but, things change
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Selfishly I would love for the Big 3 stadiums to remain the biggest three in the land. OSU is dropping theirs down 2,500 seats, below a couple of the SEC.
I would love to see the "Next 4" attendance all increase their stadium size by 5-10k.
(Big 3 are all over 100k, and pretty full) those next 4 keep their stadiums also pretty full it would be nice to see the option to have more fans able to come.
The bottom 7, I would like to see action taken to draw more fans into their current stadiums (upgrades to amenities, lower ticket prices, promotions, student experience etc.)
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Selfishly I would love for the Big 3 stadiums to remain the biggest three in the land. OSU is dropping theirs down 2,500 seats, below a couple of the SEC.
I would love to see the "Next 4" attendance all increase their stadium size by 5-10k.
(Big 3 are all over 100k, and pretty full) those next 4 keep their stadiums also pretty full it would be nice to see the option to have more fans able to come.
The bottom 7, I would like to see action taken to draw more fans into their current stadiums (upgrades to amenities, lower ticket prices, promotions, student experience etc.)
I would be shocked if any of the 'next 4' increases their stadium size. I would expect most places to reduce their size by 5-10k. They should, You can't 'upgrade amenities' w/o making the place more comfortable. Start by losing the 16-17 inch wide bench as a seat. I'm not going to go blasting specific venues, but they could all stand to lose at least 5,000 in capacity. Seating comfort is pretty crappy at these large stadiums.
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UGA is spending something like $60 million on the west end zone but with no more seats. Most of that is dressing rooms and whatnot. They apparently think they need more ammo for recruiting.
http://thegeorgiabulldogclub.com/leadership-giving/west-end-zone-project
https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/pros-and-cons-of-enclosing-the-west-end-zone-of-sanford-stadium-012417
IF UGA went on a big run here I suspect pressure to expand would increase and something would happen.
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I'm with MH.
I think all of the stadiums that are as old as me have the same general issues, especially the narrow seats. The big one in Ann Arbor is the worst offender in that department, but I thought I saw something that they were going to address the problem.
When I went there, I always got one more ticket than needed.
I've come to really like seats with backs and armrests. I see there is a plan for that in Madison.
Let's face it. The fan base (hard core) is getting older. The kids don't care as much and they are not gonna shell out like we do/did. The stadia will get smaller as a result, so more stuff can be put in to attract the kiddies.
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I'm with MH.
I think all of the stadiums that are as old as me have the same general issues, especially the narrow seats. The big one in Ann Arbor is the worst offender in that department, but I thought I saw something that they were going to address the problem.
When I went there, I always got one more ticket than needed.
I've come to really like seats with backs and armrests. I see there is a plan for that in Madison.
Let's face it. The fan base (hard core) is getting older. The kids don't care as much and they are not gonna shell out like we do/did. The stadia will get smaller as a result, so more stuff can be put in to attract the kiddies.
To an extent I agree with you, but I also think that it doesn't have to be limited to the "grumpy old man" issues (I'm one too, get off my lawn). I think another factor is the viewing experience at home has improved by leaps and bounds compared to when we were younger.
For one thing the games are all on TV now. We both remember when that was not the case so "watching" at home meant listening to the radio. Even for the games that were on TV though, we are both old enough to remember when that meant watching a 20-22" screen with nothing resembling HDTV. You don't have to be rich today to have a 36"+ HDTV.
That is a big difference from even 15-20 years ago.
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Very true about the TV thing.
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I guess I'd put these as the top concerns of mine.
1. seat width
2. leg room
3. ease of concourse movement, inclusive of restroom, stadium entrance/exit
4. public address sound quality
5. video/graphical presentation.
6. my ability to send/receive msgs, if this is low level, than the out of town scoreboard better be good.
7. Device connectivity. I truly only look at phone to observe interpretive text msgs from other fans/friends, or score updates.
Amenity I'd like to see executed in greater numbers (harder to pull off in football). Larger open public spaces as found at baseball stadiums, either in OF, or at select IF locations, or in immediate rear of last row of a deck are very attractive, afford engagement with fellow fans and friends, and heaven forbid a place to have a drink. Baseball ballparks, led my Minor League's (all good stadium/ballpark trends begin at MiLB with the innovative ambition of interns and other personnel that can afford to try these ideas). A few have done this, some not as well as others. I'm not talking about 'club lounges' and the like which fairly ubiquitous. I'm talking about the guy who is sitting in row 93 in the NE corner of (insert your stadium here).
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the only way UNL would add seats if it they get back to 90's type winning. This would cause demand to go way up.
It's very unlikely, the fear of losing the sellout streak will keep them from adding seats, possibly causing seats to be removed