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Title: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: ELA on July 27, 2017, 07:48:19 AM
FANTASY/SCI-FI
2. Star Wars

ACTION/DRAMA
4. Indiana Jones

COMIC BOOK
1. X-Men
2. The Avengers

HORROR
2. Friday the 13th
5. Scream
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on July 27, 2017, 10:01:33 AM
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Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: grillrat on July 27, 2017, 10:32:11 AM
The problem is that I haven't seen Logan yet.  Everyone I've heard from said it was bleeping amazing.  Just to be clear, we are talking about:

Xmen:
Xmen 1
Xmen 2
Xmen 3
Xmen - First Class
Xmen - Days of Future Past
Xmen - Apocolypse
Xmen Origins - Wolverine
The Wolverine
Logan

vs.

Avengers:
Avengers 1
Avengers 2
Guardians 1
Guardians 2
Thor 1
Thor 2
Captain America 1
Captain America 2
Captain America 3
Antman
Incredible Hulk
Doctor Strange

Is that correct?  I'm leaning towards Avengers, but again, seeing Logan could sway that.  Am I missing any Avengers movies?  (The new Spider-Man movie?)
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2017, 11:05:43 AM
The X-Men are by far my favorite comic book characters of all time.  I used to collect them in high school/college and early career days, and I have some that are actually worth a bit of money.

I've enjoyed the movies too, aside from a couple (X3, Wolverine origins).

But I have to say that, despite really not caring much for The Avengers comic books back in the day, I've enjoyed the movie franchise immensely.  I eagerly await each new installment.  So I'm surprising myself by picking the Avengers here.

Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: ELA on July 27, 2017, 12:22:10 PM
The problem is that I haven't seen Logan yet.  Everyone I've heard from said it was bleeping amazing.  Just to be clear, we are talking about:

Xmen:
Xmen 1
Xmen 2
Xmen 3
Xmen - First Class
Xmen - Days of Future Past
Xmen - Apocolypse
Xmen Origins - Wolverine
The Wolverine
Logan

vs.

Avengers:
Avengers 1
Avengers 2
Guardians 1
Guardians 2
Thor 1
Thor 2
Captain America 1
Captain America 2
Captain America 3
Antman
Incredible Hulk
Doctor Strange

Is that correct?  I'm leaning towards Avengers, but again, seeing Logan could sway that.  Am I missing any Avengers movies?  (The new Spider-Man movie?)
Scratch the CA movies.  It's basically the Marvel Universe without the Iron Man/Captain America trilogies.  CA came in 9th in the composite ranking, which is why it's not here.  IMO that's a damn shame, because those are my favorite MCU movies.  I think Winter Soldier is easily the greatest comic book sequel movie ever made.  Better even than Dark Knight.
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: Entropy on July 27, 2017, 12:28:09 PM
Avengers.  I'm with Utee in that I enjoyed xman as a kid much more than avengers, but overall, I think the avenger movies have been better than xman. 
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2017, 12:39:39 PM
I consider Civil War to be more of an Avengers movie than a CA standalone.    That might not be how they're "officially categorized" but I'm including it in my evaluation of the Avengers franchise.

Agree that Winter Soldier was great, and I probably liked the original CA more than most, as I enjoyed its period campiness.
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: MaximumSam on July 27, 2017, 12:57:45 PM
Went with Avengers on the strength of Guardians of the Galaxy
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: ELA on July 27, 2017, 01:41:13 PM
I consider Civil War to be more of an Avengers movie than a CA standalone.    That might not be how they're "officially categorized" but I'm including it in my evaluation of the Avengers franchise.

Agree that Winter Soldier was great, and I probably liked the original CA more than most, as I enjoyed its period campiness.
I loved the original too.  Honestly, all 3 might be in my MCU too 5
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: TyphonInc on July 27, 2017, 01:51:47 PM
I voted Avengers. But, if you drop Iron Man and Captain America from the franchise it makes the contest much much closer.
Guardians vs. Logan, both great movies.
Avengers vs. X-1 and X-2 pretty close again.

the difference being the X franchise has a couple of clunkers, and while the MCU may have parts that are not your cup of tea, it's hard to say any of them are bad.

Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: ELA on July 27, 2017, 02:14:21 PM
I voted Avengers. But, if you drop Iron Man and Captain America from the franchise it makes the contest much much closer.
Guardians vs. Logan, both great movies.
Avengers vs. X-1 and X-2 pretty close again.

the difference being the X franchise has a couple of clunkers, and while the MCU may have parts that are not your cup of tea, it's hard to say any of them are bad.


I hated Ultron
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: TyphonInc on July 27, 2017, 03:14:59 PM
I hated Ultron
Interesting. What did you not like about it?
Everything Wrong With Avengers: Age of Ultron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7AYpTO08zo)
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: NorthernOhioBuckeye on July 27, 2017, 03:45:28 PM
Holy crap. Reading through this thread it is like a conversation between those guys on the Big Bang Theory. I guess I'm just not geek enough for this discussion.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2017, 03:54:55 PM
Holy crap. Reading through this thread it is like a conversation between those guys on the Big Bang Theory. I guess I'm just not geek enough for this discussion.  ;)

Well, you can't spell geek without EE.   :)

I thought Ultron was pretty good.  It wasn't as good as the first, but few sequels are.

My favorite of them all is probably Iron Man 1, simply because of how unexpectedly great it was.  RDJr. just nailed that character.
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: ELA on July 27, 2017, 04:11:36 PM
Interesting. What did you not like about it?
Everything Wrong With Avengers: Age of Ultron (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7AYpTO08zo)
I thought that whole scene where they were brooding on a farm was awful, and the final battle was lackluster by the admittedly high standards they've set.

I think the most pleasant surprise was Doctor Strange.  I had no expectations for that one, but loved it.
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: utee94 on July 27, 2017, 04:25:42 PM
I thought that whole scene where they were brooding on a farm was awful, and the final battle was lackluster by the admittedly high standards they've set.

I think the most pleasant surprise was Doctor Strange.  I had no expectations for that one, but loved it.

Agree, I had no expectations for it (perhaps even LOW expectations for it) and I enjoyed it.  GOTG was also unexpectedly good.  I heard about it, and thought WTH?  Then I saw the first trailer, and was totally in.

Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: TyphonInc on July 27, 2017, 04:44:11 PM
Holy crap. Reading through this thread it is like a conversation between those guys on the Big Bang Theory. I guess I'm just not geek enough for this discussion.  ;)

"Holy Rusted Sheet Metal Batman" If you're not geek enough for this thread, then you're not trying.  ;)
Title: Re: OT Tourney (Elite 8) - #1 X-Men vs. #2 Avengers
Post by: MaximumSam on July 27, 2017, 07:07:34 PM
Just wait for Mr. Plinkett and Star Wars