Iowa beating OSU will be the BIG game that people talk about for years... as in, how did it happen.losing games you shouldn't lose happens all the time to every team. what sets that loss apart is how bad they got beat. it wasn't just a bad game and couldn't overcome mistakes, it was a brutal beat down with a bad scoreline to boot.
Matchups in the first round will be key... sometimes, team A can handle team B better the C due to talent/scheme/etc... yet team B is better than C. This year, I think, matchups will be more important than previous years.I'll go a step further and say that I believe that any of the plausible contenders could either win it all or get blown out in the semi-final.
OU's offense is fantastic, their defense and special teams are atrocious.The defense is bad. Special teams are nothing special overall, but better than average. Very solid place-kicking, 90% of KOs through the end zone, punt average yardage in the low 40s, none blocked. OTOH, not much in the return game and no blocks of opposition punts or kicks.
IMHO most of it is pretty simple:I saw an article earlier today on either the CBS or CFN site that makes a point I hadn't really thought about--tOSU is limited by how high Oklahoma is in the rankings. The Committee is going to be leery about ranking a 2-loss Ohio State over a 2-loss Oklahoma, due to the H2H.
- The ACCCG winner (either 11-1 Miami or 12-1 Clemson) is in.
- The SECCG winner (either 12-1 UGA or 11-2 Auburn) is in.
- Oklahoma is in if they beat TCU in the B12CG to finish 11-1.
- Wisconsin is in if they beat tOSU in the B1GCG to finish 13-0.
The ACC and SEC Championship games are essentially play-in games but they are largely irrelevant to other teams because, IMHO, the winners are in and the losers are out.
If either Oklahoma or Wisconsin lose, that will open up a spot or two. IMHO, Bama is the next team in so if either tOSU or TCU win, the Tide are in the playoffs.
The only real question is what happens if both tOSU and TCU win this weekend? At that point, the contenders for the last playoff spot would be:IMHO, the above is the order in which those teams would be ranked behind the top-3 but it might depend on the relative strength of tOSU's, TCU's, and USC's CCG wins. Ie, if one of them pulls a 2014 Ohio State and wins their CCG 59-0 that would potentially vault them ahead of the others.
- 11-2 B1G Champion Ohio State
- 11-2 B12 Champion TCU
- 11-2 P12 Champion USC (assuming they beat Stanford in the P12CG).
- 12-1 non-Champion Wisconsin
if osu beats sconnie, then there will be a healthy debate and i can see it going either way. both helmets. osu has more losses, but is a p5 champ, osu has better wins, but worse losses (both score and teams). no idea really how this plays out though.This^^^^^^^ the mayhem is great with or w/o tOSU in the CFP
I saw an article earlier today on either the CBS or CFN site that makes a point I hadn't really thought about--tOSU is limited by how high Oklahoma is in the rankings. The Committee is going to be leery about ranking a 2-loss Ohio State over a 2-loss Oklahoma, due to the H2H.If that is correct then I believe that Ohio State has no shot at the CFP because I think that 11-1 Bama will get in ahead of a potential 11-2 B1G Champion Ohio State.
In this analysis, a 2-loss B1G champ Ohio State has a better chance of getting in competing with Bama for the 4th spot rather than through having OU lose to TCU and open up two spots.
If that is correct then I believe that Ohio State has no shot at the CFP because I think that 11-1 Bama will get in ahead of a potential 11-2 B1G Champion Ohio State.That situation would certainly present a conundrum to the Committee. Conference champ and H2H cancel each other out.
I'm not sure what the committee would do with the comparison of:
- 11-2 B1G Champion Ohio State (with H2H home loss to OU), and
- 11-2 non-Champion Oklahoma (with H2H road win over tOSU).
Last year isn't the same because last year Ohio State finished 11-1.
I don't think Ohio St is in a great place right now. Even with a win they will either be compared to an Alabama team with one less loss or an Oklahoma team with the same record who beat them in Columbus. They could be compared to both. And while most of the time Ohio St gets the benefit of the doubt with the "eye test" I don't think they would when compared to Bama and may not against Oklahoma either.Agree totally. Also, I don't think it will matter as I think Wisconin is going to kick their ass.
The loss to Iowa is a cloud, too. I heard some talking head on the radio yesterday ask if you could imagine a scenario where Bama would go into Kinnick and have a double nickel hung on them. It may not be an entirely fair question but the answer is no for me.
Look at the granular stats on Wisconin...they are first or second in an incredible number of measures. Their defense is sick, and their offense is a machine, plus the are more than respectable on Special Teams.I get the offense on the field for a long time thing- and it is true. Still- if you look at things like Yards per carry, red zone defense, third down efficiency- I think your undervaluing the Badger defense. Just my 2 cents.
Stats can be misleading. The way Wisconsin runs their offense it was almost always inflate their defensive numbers. They pound the rock, control tempo and clock which means their defense will be on the field less. Fewer plays on the field, better defensive stats. A team like Oregon that's going to try to run it's offense fast, run 85 plays and thus subject it's defense to being on the field an extra 20-30 plays is going to have worse defensive metrics. that doesn't mean Wisconsins D isn't better than a spread team, it may very well be, I just think you have to consider some other variables.
with that being said, I do think this Wisconsin defense is pretty good. they haven't played a team that can really fling it, so that'd be interesting to see how theyd fair against that, but they don't have to worry about that this weekend at least. I think the Wisconsin D will hold up pretty well this coming weekend.
now the offense I don't agree. yes, I think the badgers run ball very effectively, but they are one dimensional. hornibrook is a liability. 63% completions is not bad, but 21 TDs to 13 Picks is not a good ratio. and he just lacks the arm strength to take the top off of a defense. If this badger team ever got down by 14-21 points that's how they could get an ugly number hung on them. I don't think that happens this weekend however, the OSU defensive line has been good but not great and the LB's have been horrible.
I don't think Clemson or Auburn would be good matchups for wiscy though, I think they would struggle to get to 17 points on either of those 2 squads. OU would be a good matchup though, they could definitely run the ball on them.
S&P+ which adjusts for pace of play and what not, looking at efficiency, explosiveness, field position and finishing drives, has Wisconsin's defense #1.Interesting that the top 8 teams in defense match the top 8 teams in power rankings.
Lot of Big Ten at the top on that side of the ball based on that metric...
1. Wisconsin
7. Michigan State
10. Michigan
12. Ohio State
13. Penn State
16. Iowa
24. Northwestern
28. Purdue
Interesting that the top 8 teams in defense match the top 8 teams in power rankings.Barrett:
So maybe a better question is how did JT Barret do against the top 8 defenses? That may be a better predictor how he does against wiscinsin.
And maybe Barrett's numbers are so much better than anybody else because he has not faced Wisconsin yet.
Wiscy is strong defensively, though they have faced a bevy of bad offenses. By S&P+:Does S&P let you remove games to see how it affects the ratings? I'd be curious what all of those would be if UW were removed.
Utah State - 68
Florida Atlantic - 8
BYU - 121
Northwestern - 81
Nebraska - 80
Purdue - 71
Maryland - 112
Illinois - 124
Indiana - 92
Iowa - 102
Michigan - 72
Minnesota - 119
FAU clearly the outlier there, and that was early in the season. I think this game might be higher scoring.
Does S&P let you remove games to see how it affects the ratings? I'd be curious what all of those would be if UW were removed.Not as far as I know
Barrett:Don't forget 4 picks against Iowa.
Against MSU: 55 yards rushing, 183 passing
Michigan: 67 yards rushing, 30 passing (left game early)
PSU: 95 rushing, 328 passing
Iowa: 63 rushing, 208 passing
Don't forget 4 picks against Iowa.I left off picks and touchdowns because I was lazy and would have had to click around.
Also- you seem pretty sure that Ohio State wont sling it around? Evidence might say otherwise.Thank god they are not OKIE State or Oklahoma! Those teams are not balanced enough to win in the Big Ten.
what I've seen in BIG games, for the most part, is Urban will play it close to the vest. He'll run JT barrett 15-20 times, most likely forget about his RBs for 2 quarters and only throw if he's forced into it.
This year there's only been a handful of games where I would say it looks like we gameplanned to throw a lot. Indiana, but we had to abandon it and we were gonna win or lose on JK Dobbins legs, which is why he had like 29 carries. JT's numbers look good in that game, but he had 2 long plays late that inflated the numbers.
OU and Iowa we came out ready to throw, and both were utter disasters.
Penn St he threw, although that might have been more due to the fact we were down huge in the game. JT played lights out. Nebraska we threw a ton, he was lights out, but Nebraska sucks.
the offense, much like the defense has been wildly inconsistent. Urban won't say it because he loves JT, but I don't think he trusts the passing game.
and I'm a JT fan, I think he's a great college qb albeit up and down like most college qbs. I think we have a nice set of WR's, no all pros but a very nice bunch. I think it'd be wise to sling it at least the first couple of series to get Wisconsin's D loosened up a little bit. but if you look at our last 2 BIG games, MSU and UM, it's clear Urban's all about running the ball now to win. which, if he gives those carries to RB's might not be a horrible idea.
but lets not confuse this OSU team with OU, or Oky St, or something of that elk. Kevin Wilson might be calling the plays, but Urban has his hands all over this offense, for better or worse. This is not Indiana's offense at OSU
Already preparing for the complaints on Haskins not being able to run the zone read like Barrett could. People are going to miss all those tough yards Barrett can get.
But then again they have to take advantage of Barrett's incredible accuracy of the proper read on zone reads. They called several for Haskins and he made the wrong read pretty much across the board.
Already preparing for the complaints on Haskins not being able to run the zone read like Barrett could. People are going to miss all those tough yards Barrett can get.Haskins will get the hang of it.
Already preparing for the complaints on Haskins not being able to run the zone read like Barrett could. People are going to miss all those tough yards Barrett can get.The only complaints i see on Buckeye boards is why Haskins hasn't been rotated in earlier in the year
Urban is bat shit crazy if he thinks he is going to win out with JTB under center.It was on display last SaturdaySo wrong, and so obvious. I actually feel sorry for you. Barrett is his only chance.
If JT is so damn smart how come he keeps throwing into seething double coverage.Barrett is a case study in the Mike Tyson quote "everybody has a plan until they are punched in the mouth".Those that don't remember the past are condemned to repeat it.Didn't see that beautiful pick that he threw that was dropped?Evidently they have to dumb the offense down even more for a 5th yr senior.I actually feel sorry if you don't see the disparity of talent on display.He has had NFL talent surrounding him for 4 seasons and still won't get over the hump.If he keeps throwing into double coverage, how does he have the highest QB rating in the conference? How does he have 7 more TDs than the second place QB? How does he have the highest completion % and by far bes t TD-interception ratio? How did Ohio State beat 3 of the 4 best defenses in the conference? How did the end up with the best offense in every measure, from total yards to points to first downs to offensive efficiency, and, with the best balance of running and passing in the league?
Let me get this straight are you stating that the top 25 coaches would select JT Barrett over any other QB?I'm mean you are saying that gives them a better chance to win on their roster or in the League.Because if so you'll see at least 4 of them in the play offs
Should I take your view, or the viewpoint of the guy responsible to make this decision and is at practice every day, AND IS ON PACE to be the winningest CFB coach that ever coached.
If you could find one coach from the top 25 that would not laugh at the suggestion that there is another QB on their roster, OR IN THE LEAGUE that gives them a better chance to win, it would be because he was drunk.
31-0 and more to come.When most of your passes are 15 yds and in vs mostly over matched opponents hey bravo.Clemson/Oklahoma/Iowa say hello,again there are lies,damn lies and statistics.It's the jimmy's and the Joe's not the X's & the O's.Urban is a great recruiter but trotting out a pedestrian arm with a bad wheel defies logic.JT's a great guy but he has looked good because of the talent around him.Haskins is definitely a step up.This defense may carry the day vs UW,maybe.After that well see last year.Do you seriously think JT won the UM game last year?He crapped the bed ,Wilton Speight and the defense won that game.Two pathetic(of the 4)picks vs IA shouldn't have been thrown,specially from a 5th yr senior.Take away the short stuff and we have egg on our face against a quality opponentI find it humorous that you think JT was the reason we let Iowa score 55. Typical uninformed Monday morning QB. And Oklahoma, where we were breaking in all new WRs, new LBs at their positions, and new defensive backfield. A game which was tied up in mid Q3, and then our back seven could not stop the tight end or fullback on RPOs..and Clemson, where we had Beck calling plays, and like Michigan and MSU before them, Clemson saw no WR or passing scheme they were afraid of, so they all sold out on the run.
Let me get this straight are you stating that the top 25 coaches would select JT Barrett over any other QB?I'm mean you are saying that gives them a better chance to win on their roster or in the League.Because if so you'll see at least 4 of them in the play offsReading comprehension man.
So wrong, and so obvious. I actually feel sorry for you. Barrett is his only chance.They changed it completely. To suit 4things: Cardales inexperience, Cardales arm, Ezekiel Elliot, Devon Smith. And yes, it was simplified, especially the first full game against Wisconsin. As urban said after, " notice not one throw between the hashes- that's how we took risk out". Now with more time to prepare, against Bama and Oregon, there were a few more throws over the middle, but only a few.
They would have to dumb down the offense so much for Haskins. Just like he had to agains t UM.
first off, I want JT to start.
But I don't think they'd have to dumb down the offense if he was hurt. Haskins has been there for 2 years, they might have to run things better suited to his skills, but I don't think all of a sudden they'd be down to running 5 plays.
Would you say they dumbed down the playbook when Cardale Jones came in with only 7 days prep vs Wisconsin?
Also- the Urban calling JT runs "thing." You do realize that 95% of those are zone reads, where the other team has chosen to defend the RB right? And yes- that's the kind of offense that Urban runs- the one listed above with all of those national leading stats. A big part of that is because they make the defense account for the QB-Is every defensive coordinator in the country stupid?
well, if you believe other defensive coordinators, analysts etc then yes, that's exactly what urban is doing. if the opposing defense is saying, we are going to take your running backs out everytime you run the read option, then essentially you are just calling QB draws all game long. now technically JT has to make the decision, but isn't it odd that the decision is he has to keep it? like every freaking play? is every D coordinator in the nation stupid? or are do they realize that it's way better having Barrett run it 20 times vs letting Dobbins or Weber run it 20 times? that my friend is Urban's flaw. he can't find a way to give it to his RBs because he's too stubborn to just run a straight running play to his most talented runners
and- wildly inconsistent? Oh my. Some great games and some poor games..a little up and down perhaps, but far more consistent than most teams.I would agree with the identity thing and the fluctuations you speak of.
you don't play a full 12 game schedule, including the East Division in the Big where you beat great defense at MSU/UM/PSU , and end up with the results they have.
Being #1 in Offense, scoring, Rushing, First downs, pass efficiency, total yards, etc.. they are in the top 3-10 in the nation in all of those categories except one. In fact- it would be hard to argue that they are not the most balanced, high output offense in the nation. Nobody I can find comes close.
-6 yards in the first quarter vs UM, a horrible first half vs IU, total disaster at Iowa, Oklahoma pretty much a no show (and their defense is not good) Mike Weber 1 carry the entire first half vs UM, Dobbins doesn't touch the rock in the late 3rd to 4th quarters vs OU. 17 points in the first half vs Army.
Now we did get really fat stats against ILL, Nebraska, UNLV, Rutgers, Maryland and Nebraska. but who cares, we're supposed to, none of those teams have a defense. The MSU game is the 1 game were we blew the doors off a good defense. and why did we do that? for 1, we didn't run near as much read option because of the total outrage of not getting the RBs the ball against Iowa.
I think the problem with this offense is they still don't know what they want to be. All offseason they wanted to be a team that just wanted to throw it deep, work the deep ball. then it didn't work, we better run it. then out of necessity we did throw well against Penn St and fell in love with the pass game again. then that blew up against Iowa so back to the RBs vs MSU.
so season long we probably do look fairly balanced, but I would argue game to game it's fluctuated quite a bit.
Reading comprehension man. Sentence structure and clear content man
The original statement that you guys are making is that Haskins gives OSU a better chance to win RIGHT now. That's the incredibly ridiculous statement your making.
Not only is that stupid, yes stupid, but what I am saying that no coach would agree with that.I'd imagine both Sweeney & Saban last year after JT put up 0 pts in the play off.With his record setting 3 & outs and all
The TD to Marcus Baugh almost never happened, but thanks to Barrett knowing the offense so well, he stopped Meyer from calling a TO just before and got his 2 confused WRs into position, snapped the ball, went quickly through his reads and saw option, a slant on right, covered, then went to Baugh for TD. That whole sequence is on Eleven Warriors, as is the conversation with Meyer where he openly praises Haskins, but says the had to substantially simplify the offense for Haskins.That's rich,so Barrett is cracking code at Blechley Park while still throwing to a wide open linebacker after 5 years - impressive.Did Urbs mention Haskins coming in with a 6 pt deficit and leaving with with a 11 pt margin of victiory.Whew! simple works for me
It's the stuff most fans don't see. Did you see that? I certainly did..noticed it live.
Did you see the three crucial zone reads Haskins ran, where he missed the obvious read which was the QB run, and our RB got stuffed for no gain or a loss? I did.
Ask the informed Badger fans,The ones that may share your narrative
He's in that very next level below though- and how in the world could anyone complain about having a QB like that? I'd fricken KILL for a QB like that. Could always be worse Buckeye fans. Have ya seen John O'Korn?The fanbase would like to see some semblance of a consistent downfield passing attack.Haven't had that since Cardale during the 2014 run.Mixing in Haskins/Burrow in situations would keep defenses honest.JT hasn't developed that against a premier defensive unit.Dare him to throw long while taking away the short stuff - he didn't prove them wrong on the biggest stage
I am not saying Haskins won't be really good...he shows potential for sure. But those who anoint him after a few plays, and ignore the BIG TENS MOST PROFICIENT TD MAKER in HISTORY, well too stupid to even take seriously.I could find people that know more about football on Hineygate than you do. Seriously, do you think before you post? For every Penn State, there is an Oklahoma? Did you really just say that? So the record is .500.
Every opposing coach would tell you that.Beautiful that's some category 5 hooey right there.Didn't know you were so well connected in coaching circles in CFB.For every Penn St game there is a Sooner/Hawkeye display.His Proficiency disappears when the competition stiffens.Don Brown & Dabo Sweeney (last year) produced the Blue Print.I didn't call you stoopid or say JT sux.Haskins or Burrow(before injury) should have been platooned like he did with the Gators.JT has his spots simply not all of them.As the song goes "Im frightened by those that don't see it."GO BUCKEYES! BTW - great posts T.O.M.
The fanbase would like to see some semblance of a consistent downfield passing attack.Haven't had that since Cardale during the 2014 run.Mixing in Haskins/Burrow in situations would keep defenses honest.JT hasn't developed that against a premier defensive unit.Dare him to throw long while taking away the short stuff - he didn't prove them wrong on the biggest stageLook the Cardale thing was a special moment in time. He came in for 3 games out of nowhere, there was no tape on him for opposing defenses to scout or game plan him and he had the future NFL receivers to use that giant arm to go deep to in Thomas and the best deep threat in college football that season in Smith.
More often than not JT has laid an egg on the Big Stage(sort of like you in this thread) surrounded by NFL talent.What does Tom Herman have to do with JT's chronic 3 & outs and putting up no points and gassing our defense vs Clemson.He's complicated right?You said so your self,so why can't he remember what Herman taught him?Maybe you forget receivers leaning forward,reaching back or stopping to snag a fluttering toss.Is that on Herman too?Is stretching the field and spreading a defense a football concept?I understand JT doesn't do that on a stout defense.Buckeye Rob is waiting for you over at Hiney - you both can wear the goggles and toss back the kool aid -good times.Ive been to Clemson/Bama/Sooner boards,believe me they don't share your cosmopolitan view of the Record Setter.Ohio St will miss the excellent departing O & D Linemen.Not the perennial dink & dunk numbers hoarder.Be nice if Haskins/Burrow were given the long leash the Pet Project was affordedYour narrative, less facts as usual, leaves me laughing.
Your narrative, less facts as usual, leaves me laughing.Oh not only do coaches agree with you the posters also.You'll twist anything to fit your take.T.O.M. certainly pointed out your flawed logic(BS really).JT's Clemson performance was so smashing he had 9 months off & repeated it for the Sooners this season.But you have to be as smart as JT to understand it.As our esteemed colleague T.O.M.pointed out JT set up things rather nicely in Iowa City.So ya he concurred with you in your sphere of whack Oh and the dumbed down Haskins pulled the Michigan game out while record setter was probably in the locker taking a Physics Test.Good to see record setter show up vs PSU great game.You'd sell a snow cone to an Eskimo.JT meh the linemen leaving will be the holes to fill.Think he'll follow his former teammates to the Sunday League.Guess we know who propped who up
give it up Nubbz, every other school poster in this topic has told you how wrong you are.
Comes up short on the big stage? Clueless. MIchigan wins, MSU wins, Oklahoma win Penn State win...not big stage? The list goes on. You also wrongly attribute Clemson to Barrett. Anyone with a brain who witnessed that and other similar games last season- including Meyer, has openly admitted the offensive play design, play selection, and lack of protection, as well as no deep threat, were the causes. But that doesn't fit your Monday morning QB narrative, mostly because you don't understand it.
Talk about kook aid.
Let's see how this plays out when Barrett is gone. Let's see if they can be second in the country in points per game, number 4 in total offense. Oh wait...facts again. Sorry, your debating with stupid narratives. " comes up short on big stage more often than not"
Buy a book about modern football dynamics, so you can understand what's actually going on, then come back with some facts.
Oh not only do coaches agree with you the posters also.You'll twist anything to fit your take.T.O.M. certainly pointed out your flawed logic(BS really).JT's Clemson performance was so smashing he had 9 months off & repeated it for the Sooners this season.But you have to be as smart as JT to understand it.As our esteemed colleague T.O.M.pointed out JT set up things rather nicely in Iowa City.So ya he concurred with you in your sphere of whack Oh and the dumbed down Haskins pulled the Michigan game out while record setter was probably in the locker taking a Physics Test.Good to see record setter show up vs PSU great game.You'd sell a snow cone to an Eskimo.JT meh the linemen leaving will be the holes to fill.Think he'll follow his former teammates to the Sunday League.Guess we know who propped who upAs I figured. Run from your original whacked out theory, that OSU has a better chance to win right now with Haskins. You can't defend it so you change the topic completely.
Iowa, yes. Michigan, the games were almost identical. Pretty even for 3ish quarters, with UM holding a 2nd half lead in both, then UW/OSU opened up a two score margin in the fourth. UW's win was probably slightly more convincing, but it was also at home, which sort of evens out.The "ain't played nobody Pawwwwl" critique only holds if you're able to square the circle of Ohio State struggling against Michigan and losing to Iowa, both of whom Wisconsin dispatched in convincing fashion.
well, I wasn't trying to morph this into a JT sucks thing, I'll reiterate, I like JT, always have. he's had a few clunkers but most people do. but i'll never forget games like MSU 2014 and PSU this year.Great post. Could not disagree with one word. I sat there cussing at the tv last Saturday as the buckeyes only had 7 pure handoffs to RBs, in the first half-and it was working.
FYI I heard barrett had surgery this week? maybe it's something minor like draining fluid or something, but that makes me nervous.
my issue is how we run the offense. and I know I keep getting the stats thrown at me, 550 yards of offense, 4th in points etc, how can you complain? look, it's more than good enough to compete and win the BIG 10 every year. I can't argue against that. But is it good enough to win a national championship? (yes, I don't have dementia, I realize we won a natty, but the last few years we haven't played near as well against ELITE competition offensively)
I'm not complaining per say that it doesn't work, but it's clear, it doesn't always work, and I think it's got as much to do with the coaches as the personnel.
how many times at a press conference have you heard Urban Meyer say "that's not enough carries/touches" for Carlos Hyde, Zeke Elliot, JK Dobbins, M Weber? I've heard it a great number of times.
How many times have you heard Urban Meyer say "we don't like to run our quarterback that much" when talking about JT Barrett as well as Braxton Miller after they get 15-20 carries, typically more carries than our RB. He's said this in pressers more often than I can count.
When does this typically get fixed? the game right after a loss. Prime example is Michigan when Zeke got roughly 30 carries after losing to MSU, or this year when Dobbins/Weber got a ton of carries against MSU after losing to Iowa. but then we slowly start trending away from getting it to our backs.
Now is Urban giving us a load of crap, does he not really believe what he says in press conferences? If he does believe it, then why is he, and offensive genius unable to find more carries for his RBs?
and I'm sure I'll get hit with "you have no idea how the read option works." that's fine, believe that if you want. but I will reiterate, defensive coordinators want our QBs running the ball, they don't want our RBs getting 30 carries. and if Urban can't figure out how to do that more consistently, then his offensive read option play calling whatever you want to call it has a systemic flaw that he doesn't know how to fix. just my 2 cents.
I have fewer complaints about the actual pass game, other than I think we run too much zero backfield pass plays. typically I think the passing game issues are more execution issues.
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HB we're Old Men yelling at clouds and right past each other.Barrett started as a RS FR and so could DW IMO.Go Bucks and Happy Holidays